Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1897002]I find this a bit surprising, although not shockingly so. Are you sure they understood what you were asking for? For example, asking for "A plus" is usually understood at the PSE shops, asking for "anal" maybe not.[/QUOTE]PSE shops have to know this. Ordinary shops might not understand "A Plus" in some cases, since it is not a universally known euphemism. I never heard of it before reading the ISG.

It is not surprising at any shop that some girls are not providing anal. Most girls simply don't like it, and there are limits to what girls will do for small money, if they are not desperate. E. g. Plenty do not want to lick dirty assholes or swallow cum, for the entertainment of the psychos.

Plenty of girls that will provide anal in some cases, still say they do not enjoy it at all. I could go a whole year without any girl offering me her asshole. They just are not that keen on it. Even Benz in SW did not offer it. She was happy enough to skip it I guess.

[QUOTE=LoveHole69;1899081]So who has any info on the reports of new ladies there?

[/QUOTE]I had Nonny a few weeks back. I see her photo is now on the Snow White website and is accurate. She has no baby so her skin is nice and tight, nice pair of natural tits but a little bit of a belly fat. She's A+ and I really enjoyed the session. She's very sweet but a bit inexperienced. She doesn't like any fingers in her at all, but apart from that I was very happy with the service. She obviously found it very difficult to take A+, so she's great if you're looking to be one of the first to teach a young, sweet, inexperienced girl how things should be done. If you're looking for a hardcore PSE then you'd probably be better off with a more experienced girl.

Snow White has a few new girls in. Any other reports of them? I hope the others are also A+ with no babies. Aom, Ninja and Icey are new and look nice on the website but it's difficult to judge their bodies.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1899315]PSE shops have to know this. Ordinary shops might not understand "A Plus" in some cases, since it is not a universally known euphemism. I never heard of it before reading the ISG.

It is not surprising at any shop that some girls are not providing anal. Most girls simply don't like it, and there are limits to what girls will do for small money, if they are not desperate. E. g. Plenty do not want to lick dirty assholes or swallow cum, for the entertainment of the psychos.

Plenty of girls that will provide anal in some cases, still say they do not enjoy it at all. I could go a whole year without any girl offering me her asshole. They just are not that keen on it. Even Benz in SW did not offer it. She was happy enough to skip it I guess.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure what you are referring to when you state "PSE shops have to know this. " My post basically suggested they know what "A plus" is, but raised the possibility they may not understand the term "anal. " Are you suggesting the PSE girls all know what is being asked for when someone asks for "anal"?

I should add I am also surprised you would suggest a guy who wants a girl to swallow cum is by that fact alone a psycho. And this is coming from a guy who never cums in the mouth except during rare instances where I go to blowjob bars in Tokyo.

[QUOTE=LAGuy5;1899683]
I should add I am also surprised you would suggest a guy who wants a girl to swallow cum is by that fact alone a psycho. And this is coming from a guy who never cums in the mouth except during rare instances where I go to blowjob bars in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]Fellow members of the Baby Boom generation recall a time pre-internet and pre-home video when the main sources of porn were magazines and, believe it or not dear Gen Xers or whatever, paperback books. Yep, I'm talking about just written prose with no pictures. And they could actually be quite hot. The most famous publishing house for those very sexy books was the late, great Olympia Press. It was rumored that many highly regarded writers of the day wrote some of those books under fake names for a quick buck and I don't doubt it because some of the authors really nailed the essence of what sex is all about in terms of emotion and fantasy fullfilment as well as incredibly useful descriptions of technique.

Why do I mention these decades old memories? Because, horny little post adolesent and young adult that I was, I probably read a couple of dozen of those Olympia Press masterpieces and, while blowjobs were a key element in those gloriously sexy stores, not one time in all those books did a passage about our hero getting a blowjob end with the lovely maiden hacking his cum into a kleenex or jumpimg up and running to the nearest sink to spit it out.

It turns out the idea of a proper, fantasy fullfilling blowjob, at least for normal men of my generation, has the cum going into a woman and staying there. Just like the end of a fantasy fullfilling fuck. Not into a tissue, a toilet, a sink, into her eyes, ears, nostrils or out an open window.

I have been happily accepting blowjobs from thousands of women around the USA, parts of Asia, Latin America and Europe for about 45 years and Thailand is the only place where the girl swallowing is a BIG deal with many girls seeing it as a much greater sacrifice than losing their virginity. Weird. I probably got blown by more than 100 women in the USA before I was 30 years old and it never occurred to me that some women DON'T swallow the cum at the finish since it seemed to me to be normal, routine behavior without my even mentioning it. After I was well into my mid-50's, I don't recall one time when an American girl of virtually any ethnic background spitt out my cum at the end of a blowjob instead of swallowing it. Sure, I had many who didn't give blowjobs at all (to me, at least). But if they did, and hundreds did, they finished it like an adult woman. They swallowed.

In my experience, Thailand is the only place where simply swallowing is rare. It happens, still happens for me. But it is not the given routine it is most places I have mongered and dated. And that was so even when I was coming here 25 years ago.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1899803]Fellow members of the Baby Boom generation recall a time pre-internet and pre-home video when the main sources of porn were magazines and, believe it or not dear Gen Xers or whatever, paperback books. Yep, I'm talking about just written prose with no pictures. And they could actually be quite hot. The most famous publishing house for those very sexy books was the late, great Olympia Press. It was rumored that many highly regarded writers of the day wrote some of those books under fake names for a quick buck and I don't doubt it because some of the authors really nailed the essence of what sex is all about in terms of emotion and fantasy fullfilment as well as incredibly useful descriptions of technique.

Why do I mention these decades old memories? Because, horny little post adolesent and young adult that I was, I probably read a couple of dozen of those Olympia Press masterpieces and, while blowjobs were a key element in those gloriously sexy stores, not one time in all those books did a passage about our hero getting a blowjob end with the lovely maiden hacking his cum into a kleenex or jumpimg up and running to the nearest sink to spit it out.

It turns out the idea of a proper, fantasy fullfilling blowjob, at least for normal men of my generation, has the cum going into a woman and staying there. Just like the end of a fantasy fullfilling fuck. Not into a tissue, a toilet, a sink, into her eyes, ears, nostrils or out an open window.

I have been happily accepting blowjobs from thousands of women around the USA, parts of Asia, Latin America and Europe for about 45 years and Thailand is the only place where the girl swallowing is a BIG deal with many girls seeing it as a much greater sacrifice than losing their virginity. Weird. I probably got blown by more than 100 women in the USA before I was 30 years old and it never occurred to me that some women DON'T swallow the cum at the finish since it seemed to me to be normal, routine behavior without my even mentioning it. After I was well into my mid-50's, I don't recall one time when an American girl of virtually any ethnic background spitt out my cum at the end of a blowjob instead of swallowing it. Sure, I had many who didn't give blowjobs at all (to me, at least). But if they did, and hundreds did, they finished it like an adult woman. They swallowed.

In my experience, Thailand is the only place where simply swallowing is rare. It happens, still happens for me. But it is not the given routine it is most places I have mongered and dated. And that was so even when I was coming here 25 years ago.[/QUOTE]I guess you speak about really swallowing, not just CIM? First time I was in BKK (1988) I went to Mona Lisa (name has changed since) and among about 100 girls there were 5-6 on a side, in a special colour, for us to know those will "smoke" as they said. Fortunately and neverthelss things have improved since! But I agree, young girls fear it. FLs being 35-40 years old in contrast do it very likely, one reason why I prefer good looking FLs. In my experience they are more open and less shy, in other words they have experience.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1899803]I have been happily accepting blowjobs from thousands of women around the USA, parts of Asia, Latin America and Europe for about 45 years and Thailand is the only place where the girl swallowing is a BIG deal with many girls seeing it as a much greater sacrifice than losing their virginity. Weird. I probably got blown by more than 100 women in the USA before I was 30 years old and it never occurred to me that some women DON'T swallow the cum at the finish since it seemed to me to be normal, routine behavior without my even mentioning it. After I was well into my mid-50's, I don't recall one time when an American girl of virtually any ethnic background spitt out my cum at the end of a blowjob instead of swallowing it. Sure, I had many who didn't give blowjobs at all (to me, at least). But if they did, and hundreds did, they finished it like an adult woman. They swallowed.

In my experience, Thailand is the only place where simply swallowing is rare. It happens, still happens for me. But it is not the given routine it is most places I have mongered and dated. And that was so even when I was coming here 25 years ago.[/QUOTE]Overall I would say most Thai women are come-phobic for lack of a better term. The don't swallow, don't like it on their bodies, don't like the smell, or anything about it.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1899851]Overall I would say most Thai women are come-phobic for lack of a better term. The don't swallow, don't like it on their bodies, don't like the smell, or anything about it.[/QUOTE]I think that is true. Of course, virtually none of them are phobic about a man giving them a good and thorough pussy eating. And I have yet to observe a Thai girl's reaction if I lept to my feet and ran to the toilet to hack, cough and spit out whatever vestiges of pussy juice remained in my mouth (after already swallowing jiggers of it in the process. LOL) within seconds of her orgasm. I have yet to observe it because I've never done it. It would never occur to me to be so childish and insulting to a woman for whom I've just muff dived.

Generally, I would say that is the one point to make with a Thai woman that changes her mind about swallowing. Or might change her mind about it. Get them quickly addicted to a fine and thorough pussy eating including a truly memorable finish, clean up and lingering / loving aftermath. Then point out that is the way it is supposed to finish and how would she feel if she knew all during it that I was anxious to spit out whatever seeps or squrts out of her instead of how I treat her. If the concept sinks in they will often see the light for the first time in their lives and give it a go next time.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1900068]I think that is true. Of course, virtually none of them are phobic about a man giving them a good and thorough pussy eating. And I have yet to observe a Thai girl's reaction if I lept to my feet and ran to the toilet to hack, cough and spit out whatever vestiges of pussy juice remained in my mouth (after already swallowing jiggers of it in the process. LOL) within seconds of her orgasm. I have yet to observe it because I've never done it. It would never occur to me to be so childish and insulting to a woman for whom I've just muff dived.

Generally, I would say that is the one point to make with a Thai woman that changes her mind about swallowing. Or might change her mind about it. Get them quickly addicted to a fine and thorough pussy eating including a truly memorable finish, clean up and lingering / loving aftermath. Then point out that is the way it is supposed to finish and how would she feel if she knew all during it that I was anxious to spit out whatever seeps or squrts out of her instead of how I treat her. If the concept sinks in they will often see the light for the first time in their lives and give it a go next time.[/QUOTE]Poetic Elh. One of the best posts I have read in a long time. I will have to try that upon occasion.

Was there another raid or something? I stopped by Catherine's and La Defense last night around 8 pm, and there were no girls. When I say "no girls", I mean absolutely zero. Both places were completely empty except for the staff. I asked the staff at both places why there were no girls working, but neither one would give me a real response. They just kept saying "sorry, no girls today. " Very odd!

[QUOTE=Optional;1901092]Was there another raid or something? I stopped by Catherine's and La Defense last night around 8 pm, and there were no girls. When I say "no girls", I mean absolutely zero. Both places were completely empty except for the staff. I asked the staff at both places why there were no girls working, but neither one would give me a real response. They just kept saying "sorry, no girls today. " Very odd![/QUOTE]WOW! Terrible news. What is the position today? Hope it stabilizes by November (my trip time).

[QUOTE=Optional;1901092]Was there another raid or something? I stopped by Catherine's and La Defense last night around 8 pm, and there were no girls. When I say "no girls", I mean absolutely zero. Both places were completely empty except for the staff. I asked the staff at both places why there were no girls working, but neither one would give me a real response. They just kept saying "sorry, no girls today. " Very odd![/QUOTE]What did the parking lots look like? Empty. ? Do you recall any buses parked (this would indicate a tour trip, sometimes they will come in and could possibly consume all of the women).

There were only a couple cars in the parking lot (belonging to the staff, I assume, as there were no customers). I definitely did not see any tour buses.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1901138]What did the parking lots look like? Empty. ? Do you recall any buses parked (this would indicate a tour trip, sometimes they will come in and could possibly consume all of the women).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Optional;1901147]There were only a couple cars in the parking lot (belonging to the staff, I assume, as there were no customers). I definitely did not see any tour buses.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes this weird stuff happens. I once went to Alina and Colonze2 (also nearby each other) and they were both semi-closed but semi-open. There were people inside, such as wait staff, and people having a meeting, but no girls working that day. Some internal Thai business stuff that day, I assumed. May have also been the case with the 2 you went.

Also, it could just be that they were literally empty of women that night, or had so few working rather. I went to Copa Cabana a month or two ago and the entire bottom floor was empty at 7PM. Had to go upstairs to the model lounge where only 5-8 women were available. A group (as is often the case with local/semi-local asian mongers) could have easily come in and cleared that place out of working women. It seems that even before the raids, soapies were just not doing well talent-wise. So not too surprised to see empty soapies, certainly not thrilled about it either. Really hoping the soapies get better as I prefer daytime action with better looking women than what is at oillies.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1901615]Sometimes this weird stuff happens. I once went to Alina and Colonze2 (also nearby each other) and they were both semi-closed but semi-open. There were people inside, such as wait staff, and people having a meeting, but no girls working that day. Some internal Thai business stuff that day, I assumed. May have also been the case with the 2 you went.

Also, it could just be that they were literally empty of women that night, or had so few working rather. I went to Copa Cabana a month or two ago and the entire bottom floor was empty at 7PM. Had to go upstairs to the model lounge where only 5-8 women were available. A group (as is often the case with local/semi-local asian mongers) could have easily come in and cleared that place out of working women. It seems that even before the raids, soapies were just not doing well talent-wise. So not too surprised to see empty soapies, certainly not thrilled about it either. Really hoping the soapies get better as I prefer daytime action with better looking women than what is at oillies.[/QUOTE]Apparently the owners of a few other massage parlors on Ratchada were silent partners with the owner of Nataree, not silent enough. Even though Alaina massage was found not to have broken any laws, they are closing it down due to the owner's involvement with Nataree. I suspect a few other owners will have a similar problem. Anyways guys, this will improve the freelancer scene greatly. I suspect we will see a huge influx of girls in the clubs as well as the Go go bars. Soi Cowboy and Nana plaza are important tourist dollars for Thailand and will never be influenced too much by crackdowns. For some of you Cheap Charlie's, this will be great news because the prices will drop. Another example is Pattaya. We are seeing raids in many bars but the ones on Walking street always seem to survive because of its tourist dollars. In my eyes this is great news because I love the FL scene.

[QUOTE=Bkkdog;1902095]Apparently the owners of a few other massage parlors on Ratchada were silent partners with the owner of Nataree, not silent enough. Even though Alaina massage was found not to have broken any laws, they are closing it down due to the owner's involvement with Nataree. I suspect a few other owners will have a similar problem. Anyways guys, this will improve the freelancer scene greatly. I suspect we will see a huge influx of girls in the clubs as well as the Go go bars. Soi Cowboy and Nana plaza are important tourist dollars for Thailand and will never be influenced too much by crackdowns. For some of you Cheap Charlie's, this will be great news because the prices will drop. Another example is Pattaya. We are seeing raids in many bars but the ones on Walking street always seem to survive because of its tourist dollars. In my eyes this is great news because I love the FL scene.[/QUOTE]I would imagine the gals that work at soapies will not be seen in GoGo bars. Perhaps in some FL venues; but remember, most of those gals speak no English and are more comfortable with Asian guys.