Rio de Janeiro Reports

[QUOTE=Bravo;1708875]Don't waste anytime worrying about something happening to you. In all the years I have been going to Brazil, I don't know of a single incident where a GDP came back to a client's apartment with her family or friends over an argu2 ment about payment.[/QUOTE]
It's not just about the money, but more about he hurting the girl. I don't think SoCalTennis is risking getting killed, but he's for sure risking get his ass kicked (and getting robbed as a bonus). If all this happened in a small city/village in Nordeste he could have been beaten black and blue by now. In Rio they are a little bit more civilized. :)

[QUOTE=Poucolouco;1708825]You pushed a girl against the wall to take back $33.00. Are you an asshole? I have to agree. Odds of blow back are pretty good. On the one hand she got are 350 reais for 15 minutes work and may just move on. On the other you could get a visit from her pit bull friends. The culture here is different than you are accustomed to. Police will not empathize with a gringo sex tourist and the bandidos will shoot someone to steal a cell phone. If you are concerned about security move to a hotel. Portarios at apartment buildings are no defense against brazilian thugs.[/QUOTE]Haha he is an a-hole for taking back what is his, where are you from?

He should be applaud for standing up against a thief.

SoCalTennis,

I'd say you fucked up when you allowed this chick to run game on you in the beginning. They know who to try and screw and who not to. When you actually got into a debate with her over you being allowed to fuck her beyond 3 min you had already lost the war. She had zero respect for you at that point and was going to try anything. On top of that you left money sitting around for her to grab? Come on. To be honest at that point you should have called the police yourself. Most likely they would have showed up, kicked the girl out, and then made you pay them whatever the girl tried to steal So you still would be out of your money, but at least she scamming girl didn't get it, and at least the cops now are aware that she's running bullshit games.

I'd have to agree with an earlier post that advised you to stick to termas. No offense but you sound far too inexperienced to be doing the apartment thing right now. The fact that a girl even tried that on you tells you what kind of vibe she picked up from you. Get some more experience before trying that again.

[QUOTE=AnswerMe;1708940]Haha he is an a-hole for taking back what is his, where are you from?

He should be applaud for standing up against a thief.[/QUOTE]No. Asshole (his words) for getting rough with a girl over a measly $33.00.

Remember, SoCalTennis can afford to drop 550 reais at Centaurus. Now he's worried about the consequences. He's in Ipanema with favela Pavao Pavaozinho just an elevator ride away. Easy prey for favela tough guys. If her bruises show up later, her driver may get ideas about this rich gringo.

Like I said SolCalTennis.

In over 18 years of going to Brazil, I don't know of even ONE situation of a girl returning to a client's place with a squadron of thugs to exact revenge. I wouldn't waste a single second of my vacation thinking about it.

I remember about 10 years ago of an incident with the rapper Ludacris.

Luda was in club Help with a few of his friends. They were having a big party with multiple tables, champagne and damn near all the females in the club. His friends were telling the girls that they were down there to do a concert and that they would give the girl's VIP passes to the show. Also they might film a music video in Cop and they would put the girls in the video. (it was all bullshit, but the girls ate it up, hook, line and sinker). The crew took a slew of women back to the hotel. I think they were staying at the Meredian Hotel at the time. The girl who stayed with Luda told me that after he fucked her, he asked her to leave. She told him that she was a working girl and she wasnt fucking him for free, she wanted 500 dollars! Not Reais, DOLLARS for the one hour that she was there!! Luda basicall told her that he was a rap star and that he wasnt paying her shit, he called his security to come throw her out of his room.


When she got to the lobby, she threw a huge hissy fit and told the staff that she was going to come back with her favela crew and shoot up the entire hotel and then they would kill Luda! After 30 minutes of haggling, somebody gave her 200R and they banned her from ever coming back to the hotel.


After the girl finished telling me what happened I started laughing and say "Oh Please! You dont know any killers that would come all the way from Caxias to Copa to try and kill Ludacris!!" She laughed and said "I know! But the hotel didnt know that!" (She was the only one who of the entire group who got any money)

Hey guys, I've been a Sao Paulo guy for a number of years now, normally posting in that section or Colombia.

Starting next month I'm happy to say, I'll be spending lots of time in Rio as well.

Though I'm pretty well accustomed to Brazil in general, and speak pretty good Portuguese, I'll be a newbie in Rio until I get myself acquainted.

As I do in Sao Paulo, my plan is to adventure through the lesser gringo traveled PFP venues, Centro, VM, etc, looking for the gems.

Of the Rio girls I ran across in SP, I usually ran from the hard core ones who mentioned they had worked at Help or the ones who spoke english, etc, and I absolutely fell in love with the less gringo educated Cariocas.

Of course I read the Bubba Guide and Sperto's postings and guides, as well as various reports of distinctions of Rio.

I feel informed and confident, LOL.

Many thanks to Bubba, Sperto and others for the reports and info!!

You can look forward to my upcoming Rio reports as well!

Anyway, quick question:

Can anyone tell me the normal hours of operation of the Casas de massagem and Termas in Centro, as well as Vila Mimosa?

Thanks amigos!

Ate logo!

[QUOTE=SoCalTennis;1708602]So speaking of trouble I had an annoying accident tonight which I'm sure is at least party due to my lack of experience. It being Thursday and all I tried to get a girl over from one of the escort sites. She looks really great in the pictures and replied promptly to my text messages. I met her at the block next to my apartment where she got out of a car driven by a boyfriend / pimp. She looked almost as good as in the pictures which was a relief. However her personality was the absolute worst. After 15 minutes which consisted of 3 minutes of sex and 12 minutes of her calling people on her cell phone I offered her R200 just to leave which she wouldn't accept. I then suggested we might have sex thinking this to not be entirely unreasonable since she is an escort. She flat out refused. When I tried to argue my point she ran out of the room and grabbed the 350 I was supposed to pay her. At this pointed I was very frustrated so I pushed her quite hard against the wall and took R100 back. She then goes nuts and starts saying I'm trying to beat her up and she and her 12 cousins are going back for blood etc. You know the drill I'm sure. I never hit her and there were no bruises, but I was quite forceful getting my money back. So my question to you veterans out there:

A. Am I an asshole for pushing her around? She absolutely would not listen to reason and I don't really feel like giving her 100% of the money for 15 minutes. What is the right move there?

B. What is the odds of blow back? Any chance of her 12 cousins coming around? I live in the middle of Leblon in a house with no security and it would be annoying as hell if they caused any trouble since I'm renting this apartment from a friend.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about her running her mouth about what she is going to do, if she didn't say anything I then would be worry LOL trust me over the years of going to Rio I had some ups and down it didn't use to be this way girls use to come to your place from Club HELP stay over night cook you breakfast fuck your brains out for 150-200 reals for the whole night NOW with so many cheap clowns going to Rio fucking chicks stealing their money not paying them doing shit like that NOW these girls think that mongers are out to get them so they are trying to get you 1st UNLESS they have known you for a long period, one of the last time I was there I MET chick on Facebook we chat for months so when I went there we hang out and we fuck when we finish out of the blue she wanted 300 reals LOL LOL I told her I NEVER agreed to pay you ANYTHING for sex I have the messages from Facebook we NEVER talked about paying for or charging me for sex she said ok give me 150 reals? I said Hell no I won't give you that I will give you 8 reals for a Taxi and NOW you need to get going before I loose my cool she said how you was going to bring some goons over I said that's fine just make sure you get the number right LOL I WILL be here for a few hours and then I will be down the street getting a Pizza so you can find me down there.

Kid Cisco.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1709014]You can look forward to my upcoming Rio reports as well!

Anyway, quick question:

Can anyone tell me the normal hours of operation of the Casas de massagem and Termas in Centro, as well as Vila Mimosa?[/QUOTE]
Looking forward to your reports.

Casas de massagens: Normally they open at 10AM, a few open at 9 AM and others opens at 11AM. Closing aroung 6-8 PM. I prefer going to privées around 10.30-11 AM. At that time the majority of the girls have arrived, still "virgins" that day (being first customer is a plus) and the locals who wants bunda for lunch has not arrived yet.

Vila Mimosa: Open 24 hours 7 days a week. Friday and Saturday evening are the wildest ones, with a fun atmosphere. My favourite time to visit VM used to be around 4 PM as many girls arrived fresh to do their evening-shift. This year I tried visiting around 10-12 AM. Fewer girls around but some nice ones arriving to do their day-shift.

Termas: I rarely do termas so I can't really tell you.

[QUOTE=Sperto;1709152]Looking forward to your reports.

Casas de massagens: Normally they open at 10AM, a few open at 9 AM and others opens at 11AM. Closing aroung 6-8 PM. I prefer going to prives around 10.30-11 AM. At that time the majority of the girls have arrived, still "virgins" that day (being first customer is a plus) and the locals who wants bunda for lunch has not arrived yet.

Vila Mimosa: Open 24 hours 7 days a week. Friday and Saturday evening are the wildest ones, with a fun atmosphere. My favourite time to visit VM used to be around 4 PM as many girls arrived fresh to do their evening-shift. This year I tried visiting around 10-12 AM. Fewer girls around but some nice ones arriving to do their day-shift.

Termas: I rarely do termas so I can't really tell you.[/QUOTE]Termas for the mostepart open at 1400 or 1430 -in Centro they close from 2300 or maybe midnight /1230 am but in zona sul can be till 2 am (mc, cent, solarium) all depending on the amount of customers / if its worth it for them to keep it open but forget it untill 5 pm-that's when locals go after work and vibe heats up.

Forget mondays and fridays girls do tend not to stay too late. Tues. To Thur. Are the days. Deep in the ghetto of zona norte fridays sometime best days.

Remember centro terms are shut on weekends-only thing youll find are late night spots like subsolo, americana and Florida bar which rock from after midnight or later and go to 4 m /5 am.

Zona sul termas are open saturdays but everything shut Sunday except.

Vila Mimosa.

I have to disagree with Sperto here and its not often I do! LOL.

Fridays / Saturdays at VM is a SAUSAGE FEST-way too many young dudes-aggressive, just got paid-outnumbering the girls-drunk-high whatever.

If you're going to go those days go super early before man comes off work or go mad late. I've been coming Back from Olimpo normal club near airport at 330 am /4 am and it was better.

I prefer any other day than Fri. / sat tbh but that's just me.

Hope it was helpful.

[QUOTE=KidCisco;1709076]Don't worry about her running her mouth about what she is going to do, if she didn't say anything I then would be worry LOL trust me over the years of going to Rio I had some ups and down it didn't use to be this way girls use to come to your place from Club HELP stay over night cook you breakfast fuck your brains out for 150-200 reals for the whole night NOW with so many cheap clowns going to Rio fucking chicks stealing their money not paying them doing shit like that NOW these girls think that mongers are out to get them so they are trying to get you 1st UNLESS they have known you for a long period, one of the last time I was there I MET chick on Facebook we chat for months so when I went there we hang out and we fuck when we finish out of the blue she wanted 300 reals LOL LOL I told her I NEVER agreed to pay you ANYTHING for sex I have the messages from Facebook we NEVER talked about paying for or charging me for sex she said ok give me 150 reals? I said Hell no I won't give you that I will give you 8 reals for a Taxi and NOW you need to get going before I loose my cool she said how you was going to bring some goons over I said that's fine just make sure you get the number right LOL I WILL be here for a few hours and then I will be down the street getting a Pizza so you can find me down there.

Kid Cisco.[/QUOTE]Good move Kid! I like your style-you called her bluff. Many blow hot air but some do have some local street connects or even link ups w corrupt cops so best to take precaution.

I normally never bring girl home I don't know in some capacity / have been with somehow if she's a GDP.

If normal chick I want to have had communicated outside to assess her but re gdps:

Newbies out there-always ask questions upfront.

Or let them know befote meeting up that you won't be paying them-youll get food etc but that's it etc.

Then you have a chance to call it off or whatever.

To Socal-defo stick to termas-gdps smell inexperience like a bad cologne and you might have met a piranha who prey on that.

Get your colors in Termas and get familiar with the girls and scene-then start by taking one of them over you have already had 3 times and have a vibe with.

Fot sure they won't rip you off as they want you to come back and see them at the terma.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1709208]I have to disagree with Sperto here and its not often I do! LOL.

Fridays / Saturdays at VM is a SAUSAGE FEST-way too many young dudes-aggressive, just got paid-outnumbering the girls-drunk-high whatever.

If you're going to go those days go super early before man comes off work or go mad late.[/QUOTE]
To avoid further misunderstandings from other members. Friday and Saturday evenings at VM the place get crowded. Wild and fun. BUT as I said before evenings are never the best times to go to VM for mongering (for party, yes). Not because it would be unsafe etc. Just because the best girls will be occupied or you might end up as customer no XX.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1709208]Termas for the mostepart open at 1400 or 1430 -in Centro they close from 2300 or maybe midnight /1230 am but in zona sul can be till 2 am (mc, cent, solarium) all depending on the amount of customers / if its worth it for them to keep it open but forget it untill 5 pm-that's when locals go after work and vibe heats up.

Forget mondays and fridays girls do tend not to stay too late. Tues. To Thur. Are the days. Deep in the ghetto of zona norte fridays sometime best days.

Remember centro terms are shut on weekends-only thing youll find are late night spots like subsolo, americana and Florida bar which rock from after midnight or later and go to 4 m /5 am.

Zona sul termas are open saturdays but everything shut Sunday except.

Vila Mimosa.

I have to disagree with Sperto here and its not often I do! LOL.

Fridays / Saturdays at VM is a SAUSAGE FEST-way too many young dudes-aggressive, just got paid-outnumbering the girls-drunk-high whatever.

If you're going to go those days go super early before man comes off work or go mad late. I've been coming Back from Olimpo normal club near airport at 330 am /4 am and it was better.

I prefer any other day than Fri. / sat tbh but that's just me.

Hope it was helpful.[/QUOTE]Cancun (Tier 1) in Centro opens at 4 pm.

Monte Carlo in Copa opens at 3 pm.

Solarium also 3 pm.

Centaurus opens at 4 pm.

[QUOTE=FuckAfMedDig;1709212]To Socal-defo stick to termas-gdps smell inexperience like a bad cologne and you might have met a piranha who prey on that. Get your colors in Termas and get familiar with the girls and scene-then start by taking one of them over you have already had 3 times and have a vibe with. For sure they won't rip you off as they want you to come back and see them at the terma.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's the way to go. Especially for a noob. Earn your stripes in the termas first, and especially before you even think about going and messing with some favela hood rats. I personally like it when mongers stand up for themselves and don't allow themselves to get played, and I'm tired of the guys who are always finding 1,001 excuses for scheming tutes trying to rip us off. In the overwhelming majority of cases, the monger is quite prepared to uphold his end of the bargain and pay the agreed upon price for services rendered. And in my personal experience, in the overwhelming majority of cases the tute has done her best to carry out her part of the deal too. But in every case where things went wrong, it was because of the girl trying to welch out on the deal (cutting the time short, not doing everything she said she would do, asking for more money and so forth). Every single time. So when that happens, "screw" them! Just because you can afford to give up your cash to a conniving tute doesn't mean that you should. You stand up for yourself and protect what's yours!

[QUOTE=SoCalTennis;1708602]

B. What is the odds of blow back? Any chance of her 12 cousins coming around? I live in the middle of Leblon in a house with no security and it would be annoying as hell if they caused any trouble since I'm renting this apartment from a friend.[/QUOTE]So it's Saturday already, anything materialize?

For those of us who use escorts please post the link to her pictures so we can avoid this one in the future.

When the dust settles and maybe you're out of town already, have some fun with her. Call her up and tell her you need an escort and you are staying at the Sheraton in room 5500 or whatever and you'll pay her taxi. Two weeks later ask her to come to Barra Sheraton and bring a friend for a dupla, you'lll pay her taxi. This will make her very upset and you'll get a good laugh on her.

[QUOTE=RioBob;1709325]So it's Saturday already, anything materialize?[/QUOTE]Maybe they don't have any internet at Copa D'Or?