Sosua Reports

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1323749]I'm sure I have the understanding that relationships with these women are mostly transactional. That concept is no different than dating women from the states. The problem we men run into is that the terms and expectations of a relationship are rarely discussed or spelled out clearly. With these chicas, they expect a man to know what to do to "keep them interested".

Most women in the DR however, are not shy in asking for something specific, or telling a man all of their supposed problems and / or necessities. They are the ones pushing for a fantasy relationship, not necessarily the monger. The monger is usually going with the flow, enjoying the fantasy like Coolie High and others have mentioned. The position we put ourselves in is being in a so-called LD relationship without knowing all of what the job entails from the chicas perspective.[/QUOTE]Well, yes, but if you still self-identify as a monger, then it is probably best to cut her loose and just pay for sex when you want it. Obviously there are some other alternatives, such as having a child with her (a common side effect of sex) , or getting a green card for her that go beyond mongering, but if you just want uncommitted sex with different women, then from the economic and emotional point of view it is cheaper to pay for it.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1323422]Just another guy that comes here, takes shit without giving shit in return. Loosen up that Yankee ball cap, pull your sagging pants up on your ass, and get back to us when you've got some info for the board.you leech.[/QUOTE]I wear none of the aforementioned clothing sir. None. And I'm in no rush to associate with a possible closet racist or anyone who cosigns his comments.

[QUOTE=Frannie;1323767]Well, yes, but if you still self-identify as a monger, then it is probably best to cut her loose and just pay for sex when you want it. Obviously there are some other alternatives, such as having a child with her (a common side effect of sex) , or getting a green card for her that go beyond mongering, but if you just want uncommitted sex with different women, then from the economic and emotional point of view it is cheaper to pay for it.[/QUOTE]Well actually, I don't necessarily think I need to cut her loose. As I am not necessarily holding her to anything or obligating her to me. If anything it will be her cutting me loose if she feels I don't measure up to her program (whatever that may be ). And I can still pay her for sex when I want it, if she'll go along with that arrangement. As far as monger identification, I'm sure there is room for a monger to live out certain aspects of a fantasy relationship and still have uncommitted sex with other chicas. He just has to be brazen and bold or keenly covert in his dealings to pull it off smoothly. After all, the fantasy relationship may last from a few hours, a few days, a few months or a few years. A lot depends on the two parties involved.

Earlier I was just asking if there were any guys who send a chica money, enough to pay for their communication expenses. As I recall, many chicas out there hustling have money most of the time. They just don't like to spend it on men. They want the man to spend his while they keep theirs for their benefit. If I apply this perspective accordingly, I may have answered my own inquiry. That is, the chica in question should be able to hold up her end of her communication expenses until someone comes to visit and pay her for her time. In other words force these chicas to invest in the game so the monger will hire them when he comes to visit. We can't accept that the chica is too poor to pay her end to maintain communication.

My new friend just advised me at the beginning of our video chat that she loves to talk to me everyday but she won't be able to come online daily (at the internet post) because she is not working. She already established she's not working in previous convos. Seems she wants to reinforce this fact, IMO, so that I will volunteer to offer to send her money to supposedly maintain our everyday chats. I deflected from that direction by telling her we don't have to talk everyday, we can talk once a week. How many men have been snagged by a chica with that move and felt they just had to do something? Oh yeah, she was very convincing with her flattery towards me during this convo, but I didn't budge. One thing I can say to her credit. She isn't very aggressive in her approach. Her approach is more seductive and somewhat playing the love-sick role. Very transparent and amatuerish I might add. If I pull off the once a week thing, that will work well when its time for me to come on vacation. I can get to the DR early, and do my thing before hooking up with her.

An interesting thought? Of all the video chats we had, her texts, her calls. Where did she get the money to manage that? Seems now she no longer wants to spend her own money and probably wants to see if I'll pick up her slack? With more than 30 days before my next visit, I'm sure she is going to step up in letting me know what she expects from me. I don't think she got what she wanted or expected from me tonight.

If you get a chica that gives you what you want when you are there. IMO there is nothing wrong with priming the pump. I will send a few bucks when I know the girl gives me what I am looking for. Great GFE is priceless IMO.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005; 1323802]My new friend just advised me at the beginning of our video chat that she loves to talk to me everyday but she won't be able to come online daily (at the internet post) because she is not working. She already established she's not working in previous convos. Seems she wants to reinforce this fact, IMO, so that I will volunteer to offer to send her money to supposedly maintain our everyday chats. I deflected from that direction by telling her we don't have to talk everyday, we can talk once a week. How many men have been snagged by a chica with that move and felt they just had to do something? Oh yeah, she was very convincing with her flattery towards me during this convo, but I didn't budge. One thing I can say to her credit. She isn't very aggressive in her approach. Her approach is more seductive and somewhat playing the love-sick role. Very transparent and amatuerish I might add. If I pull off the once a week thing, that will work well when its time for me to come on vacation. I can get to the DR early, and do my thing before hooking up with her.

An interesting thought? Of all the video chats we had, her texts, her calls. Where did she get the money to manage that? Seems now she no longer wants to spend her own money and probably wants to see if I'll pick up her slack? With more than 30 days before my next visit, I'm sure she is going to step up in letting me know what she expects from me. I don't think she got what she wanted or expected from me tonight.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1323848]If you get a chica that gives you what you want when you are there. IMO there is nothing wrong with priming the pump. I will send a few bucks when I know the girl gives me what I am looking for. Great GFE is priceless IMO.[/QUOTE]My man, I'm confused. How can it be a GFE when you're not there, and you know she is banging someone else?

Now if you said it was a pussy deposit for future visits, maybe I might understand.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1323848]If you get a chica that gives you what you want when you are there. IMO there is nothing wrong with priming the pump. I will send a few bucks when I know the girl gives me what I am looking for. Great GFE is priceless IMO.[/QUOTE]I agree with OldKool. You like her because you would not be on this board talking about her so much if she was just a quick hit. Nothing wrong with that. Do not over due it, but do not be cheap either. Time always reveals everything. I have been mongering since 1994 and I can count on one hand great got to keep that girl sex. So, if you find it go for it, but do not be stupid and go overboard.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1323749]I'm sure I have the understanding that relationships with these women are mostly transactional. That concept is no different than dating women from the states. The problem we men run into is that the terms and expectations of a relationship are rarely discussed or spelled out clearly.[/QUOTE]You talk like you have a lot of sense. You are obviously a smart man. Most people have yet to realize the point you just brought up. People jump into relationships assuming the other person already understands and knows its terms and expectations. Why is that? A relationship is a contract. Like any other contract its terms should be thoroughly discussed before signing on the dotted line. But who does that? No damn body. A guys gets some good pussy, or wants to get some pussy. So he tells the girl I want you to be my girlfriend. The girl says yes. Then everything goes to shit because they didn't come to an agreement on the terms at the giddy up.

[QUOTE=Wrx2005;1323749]I guess I want it to go like this. I want to stay in contact when I am away, and she has the understanding not to look for or ask me for shit when I am not there. When I am there, I will pay for my time. What she does with what I give her is her business. Thats the relationship I want.[/QUOTE]This is the part I don't understand. You want to stay in contact with a hooker. Well that is all fine and good. But why would you have to send money to do that? You just said you got off video chat with her. You can call her through Skype. You can send email. Most of the chicks I talk to who live in different countries I talk to them through msn messenger, yahoo messenger, or whats app, all of which are on my smart phone (and they have it on their whackberries and what not). So even though I or they may not be near a computer we are still always communicating and nobody has spent shit. I have never needed to send money to anyone to communicate with them. That is ridiculous to say the least. If you want to send the girl some money then send it. But don't try to justify it saying that it is so she can keep the communication lines open. Because that is pure bullshit.

[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1215982]I can assure you they do, and they are getting ever more expert at both.[/QUOTE]Pooter, you do have a sense of humor, man.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational; 1323877]You talk like you have a lot of sense. You are obviously a smart man. Most people have yet to realize the point you just brought up. People jump into relationships assuming the other person already understands and knows its terms and expectations. Why is that? A relationship is a contract. Like any other contract its terms should be thoroughly discussed before signing on the dotted line. But who does that? No damn body. A guys gets some good pussy, or wants to get some pussy. So he tells the girl I want you to be my girlfriend. The girl says yes. Then everything goes to shit because they didn't come to an agreement on the terms at the giddy up.

This is the part I don't understand. You want to stay in contact with a hooker. Well that is all fine and good. But why would you have to send money to do that? You just said you got off video chat with her. You can call her through Skype. You can send email. Most of the chicks I talk to who live in different countries I talk to them through msn messenger, yahoo messenger, or whats app, all of which are on my smart phone (and they have it on their whackberries and what not). So even though I or they may not be near a computer we are still always communicating and nobody has spent shit. I have never needed to send money to anyone to communicate with them. That is ridiculous to say the least. If you want to send the girl some money then send it. But don't try to justify it saying that it is so she can keep the communication lines open. Because that is pure bullshit.[/QUOTE]Mr. Enternational you bring up an excellent point is this girl a straight hooker. Is she turning tricks everyday. I was not clear if she was semi pro, but in sousa I am not sure you could ever say semi pro.

Chris Long in Sosua.

The Doctor and I had the opportunity to spend a four day weekend in Sosua which turned into a seven day trip due to hurricane Isaac.

Airport:

When traveling to Sosua the airport that you use is Porto Plata or POP it's a relatively small airport and easy to navigate there is a $10 visa fee that you pay upon entering and then you go through customs and immigration both of which are pretty painless and easy to get through. Once you exit you find the taxis and your pick up. I was staying at Rockys on this trip and if you are an IFTC member Rick will pick you up and drop you off at the airport for free. If you are not a member it is a $25 one way fee. There is a picture of Rick on Rockys web site and he has you send in a picture of yourself he does not hold up a sign with your name on it, maybe it has something to do with the taxi mafia.

Rockys:

Ate there several times both on this trip and my last trip, the food is good and at a good price. I originally booked the basic standard $25 a night room, it's an extra $10 a night if you want air conditioning. The rooms are in the back of the courtyard behind the restaurant. The rooms are basic they remind me of being a little better than a street girl short time room in Tijuana. Bare in mind I'm not trying criticize the place but merely trying to paint an accurate picture of what a $25 room is like, there not all that bad if you are on a budget and the girls that I took there did not seem to mind I even did a TLN with a girl there. The one thing that was a bit embarrassing is that because the rooms are in the courtyard behind the restaurant every time you picked up a chica you had to pared her through the restaurant past all the customers and employees. At night when the restaurant closes the front gate is locked, you get a key along with your room key that you unlock the front gate with when you are coming and going.

The Doctor had problems with his air-conditioning so in the middle of the night he decided to relocate to the New Garden which is just a few doors down on the same street.

The next day Rick took us across the street from the restaurant and showed us Sosua Sweets which were very nice for $50 a night you get a little apartment, kitchen, bedroom, balcony, really a nice place. I decided to upgrade and stay there for the rest of my stay and the Doctor decided he was happy where he was at in New Garden.

Rockys is just a few feet from the main strip where the main action is and a great location, it is on the same street that New Garden and Tera Linda are on.

Over all I was pleased with Rick, Rockys and Sosua Sweets and plan on making this my main base of operations for all my future trips to Sosua.

Sosua:

The place is actually quite small and easy to navigate the entire monger area can easily be conversed in a ten to fifteen minute walk. There are motoconch guys everywhere who will give you a ride for 100 pesos but for the most part I never used them and just walked everywhere.

New Garden and Rockys are on the same street if you leave either establishment and turn to your left the next street you come to will be the strip of bars where the main action is. Turn to your right and you will find the bars if U-turn to your left and walk for about ten minutes you will find the CMP club and Passions they will be on your right hand side.

The beach is easy to find, walk past the main strip of bars for another two or three blocks and the beach will be on your left had side. There are venders and restaurants along the beach and freelancers working the beach.

In Sosua everything works on Pesos so you will want to convert your money, there is a money exchange shop in the strip of bars that when I asked would always give me the market exchange rate. There is also bank Popular. If you leave either Rockys or New Garden and turn to your right and walk to the end of the block where the ice cream shop is and then turn to your left walk for about a block you will find bank popular on your right they will give you the market exchange rate. I have also used the ATM machine in front of the bank in the past and have had no problem with it.

There is a pharmacy on the same side of the street as the New Garden between New Garden and the ice cream shop where you can buy vitamin V for 100 pesos a pill.

I found Sosua to be very safe both day and night and never felt unsafe at any time. However at night I always stayed along the main strip of bars along the street where the hotel was or the walk to passions. My Spanish is practically none existent but this was never a problem as the chicas all know what you are there for and

There are enough mongers who know enough Spanish to help out or enough locals who know enough English.

CHICAS:

The chicas are all freelancers with the exception of Passions and CMP club. The night time is better than the day time and weekends are better than weekdays, that being said no matter what time of day or night or day of the week I could always find a chica when I wanted one, its just certain days and times are better than others. During the day time the chicas seem to walk around from the strip of bars to the hotels hang out in the new garden walk to the beach and even along the walk to the bank and passions. At night they are all along the strip and in the bars. I had no problem picking up chicas for 1500 pesos for the hour and 3000 pesos for TLN. Please, please, please, please, please do not pay more than this or start tipping for extras. Every girl I had gave BBBJ and DATY and none asked for or expected a tip. Many initially asked for more than the above price but when I countered with that price they all quickly accepted it. So please don't start paying more or tipping for extras like BBBJ or DATY. If you do this you're going to ruin the market. I know many of you like to say it's my money and I can pay what I want. There's a place for you guys, it's called Vegas go there and stay there and leave Sosua for 1500 and 3000 paying mongers like me.

While walking along the strip to the bank to Passions walking along the beach or in the clubs at night I found it very easy to pick up the chicas and was never turned down by any chica I approached. I also found it very easy to get TLN and to wife up with a chica and ended up doing it again on this trip just like my last trip.

Made it to passions a couple of time and found the women to be extremely HOT just like the girls on the web site, the service I got from the girls was great they were super fucks. The rooms were nice and if it was a hotel I would even consider staying there. The price is 2500 pesos for the hour with the girl. Also stopped into CMP club to check it out the chicas did not look bad but I though the Passions chicas were better. I never session with a CMP chica but I believe the prices are the same as Passions.

There are a great group of mongers there and you will easily find friends to hang out with. Ran into the legendary Cuba Dave several times while I was down there and even went to Passions with him a couple of times.

FIELD OF DREAMS:

I actually went to FOD during my stay at BB but thought I would mention it in this write up. I was impressed with FOD the place was nice the rooms were nice and the women I thought were on par with the BB chicas. They are freelancers for the most part and will ask for 2000 pesos for the hour but will readily accept 1500 pesos or even less. Jamie the owner is on hand to help out and FOD will rent a short time room for 800 pesos if you are not staying there but want to see one of the girls. He actually gave us a deal and rented the room to us for 600 pesos. The girl I had was a 20 year old college student knock out who gave me great sex BBBJ and DATY. The room rates for overnight are actually a little cheaper than BB and the good thing about FOD is that some of the girls actually live there and sleep over night so no matter what time of night you want a chica they will wake one up for you so you don't have to do a TLN if you want to get laid at two in the morning. On the down side there is no Yennys were you can conveniently walk to, to exchange money or buy your vitamin V. You will have to take a taxi or motoconch. I think the market is large enough for both BB and FOD to exist and prosper and I believe that competition is good for the consumer and will prevent either place from getting a little loose around the edges or taking us for granted. I wish Jamie success and I hope FOD is a success, I plan on giving the place a try in the near future.

When leaving Pourto Plata you have to fill out the same forms you filled out when you entered the country there is no exit fee. If you are not checking bags the process works quit quickly, if you are checking bags the line is a little longer.

FINAL THOUGHTS:

Right now without a doubt Sosua is my favorite monger destination. I think the women are beautiful passionate and the prices cannot be beaten. TLN for a less then you pay for an hour with a S. L. Or Del Ray girl in SJ. The hour for less than $40 and it's so easy to find one to wife up with and keep for your entire trip. The Dominican girls love to be eaten and their juices flow like no other girls I have been with. I plan on making Sosua my major mongering destination for the foreseeable future. My only fear is that some of you will ruin it by over paying and start the trend of having to tip for things like BBBJ or DATY. Let's all agree to keep this paradise affordable and monger friendly.

Chris

Excellent post and very helpful to anyone dithering about booking a trip to Sosua.

[QUOTE=Chris Long;1323897]There are motoconcho guys everywhere who will give you a ride for 100 pesos.[/QUOTE]Short rides are 25 pesos. Nothing within El Batey / Los Charamicos should be more than 50 pesos. For 100 pesos they would probably throw in a handjob from their mother.

[QUOTE=Chris Long;1323897]please don't start paying more or tipping for extras like BBBJ or DATY.[/QUOTE]Don't even think along those lines. BBBJ and DATY are not "extras".

[QUOTE=Chris Long;1323897]I think the market is large enough for both BB and FOD to exist and prosper and I believe that competition is good for the consumer and will prevent either place from getting a little loose around the edges or taking us for granted.[/QUOTE]Very sensible attitude. Pity everyone doesn't share it.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1323848]If you get a chica that gives you what you want when you are there. IMO there is nothing wrong with priming the pump. I will send a few bucks when I know the girl gives me what I am looking for. Great GFE is priceless IMO.[/QUOTE]For me a lot depends on the girls status. If I know or it is known that she is a puta, I see no reason to send her money just because I like her. Because I suspect she has money, or has the means to get it. And the only reason she is asking for money or dropping hints, is because she wants to Western Unionize some dude.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1323877]This is the part I don't understand. You want to stay in contact with a hooker. Well that is all fine and good. But why would you have to send money to do that? You just said you got off video chat with her. You can call her through Skype. You can send email. Most of the chicks I talk to who live in different countries I talk to them through msn messenger, yahoo messenger, or whats app, all of which are on my smart phone (and they have it on their whackberries and what not). So even though I or they may not be near a computer we are still always communicating and nobody has spent shit. I have never needed to send money to anyone to communicate with them. That is ridiculous to say the least. If you want to send the girl some money then send it. But don't try to justify it saying that it is so she can keep the communication lines open. Because that is pure bullshit.[/QUOTE]Thats just it E, I never said or confirmed she was a hooker. Sure I met her in Sosua, but from the looks of things, she, her girlfriend and a male accomplice came there to check out the scene. If you would have seen them they kinda looked out of place. Like they never been to Sosua before.

The 1st night I was with her she didn't ask me for any money. The way things went down was like meeting a woman in a bar or club in the states. You meet a chick, buy some drinks, eat some food, and leave together to fuck. The 2nd night was the same. At those times, she didn't start a whining session about her paying bills or anything of a sort. It was me who introduced money into the picture by stuffing dinero in her purse in the morning that I was leaving to fly home. So even though I met her in Sosua. My estimation was she was a potential working girl, not a confirmed working girl. Additionally she was 30 yrs old. At that age, if she was a puta already it's less likely she would have let me get away with non payment after the 1st night, and she would have complained about what I gave her or sweetly asked for more like so many do.

Right now times are probably very hard for her right now employment wise, she is a beautician) , and I suppose when she came to Sosua she was considering p4p as an option. But what it really seems now, is she would rather have at least one guy act as her novio that could fill the whole void rather than her having to fuck a lot of men. Or maybe she is just adding more men to the list, who knows? Some women consider getting into the hooker game, but realize it isn't for them. I'm sure it happens. So basically, she is under investigation right now. Meeting her in Sosua does detract from her to a certain degree. After all, I have no idea who she may have fucked after I left. Or what she was doing where she lives in SD. So E I'm not trying to justify spending money on a hooker, because I have not confirmed she is a hooker. Other than that. I have not sent her anything, and she hasnt asked YET. But I was curious how other guys felt about it or how they operate. Tonight is the 1st night we haven't talked via internet. I'm cool with that, because I never really wanted to talk everyday anyway.

[QUOTE=Revere;1323892]Mr. Enternational you bring up an excellent point is this girl a straight hooker. Is she turning tricks everyday. I was not clear if she was semi pro, but in sousa I am not sure you could ever say semi pro.[/QUOTE]I have not confirmed her status. That chica is under investigation. I'm reasonably sure, it won't take long for her to reveal more of what I need to know. 30 days until my next visit is an awful long time for her not to crack for some dinero. We'll see.