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update Manila EDsa Entertainmentcomplex
Hi to all,
Arrived yesterday in Manila, stayed at Copacobana Hotel Pasay, just crossed the street (very fast :D) and went to the Entertainment complex. Firehouse was the best. Barfined a girl from Cebu. Barfine was 1000 p, plus the damage for the girl. I did one mistake and didnt talk to her before, stronglz advise, she ask for 3000p and I gave her that, she promised me to come over next day before start working..I declined cause Im here for the 3 FFF. More gurls to go.
Copacabana Hotel is a gud place to stay, hotel costs me about 1800 pesos.
I'm now in angels city and checkin the bars, comin gback with an upate in ac section.
Happy hunting!
Need more research on Fishbowls...
I spent only about two nights in Manila last week, after first spending about four nights in AC. I was generally disappointed with Manila. I stayed at the Copacabana Apartments right across from the EDSA Entertainment Complex.
I traveled with a buddy from AC, and used the shuttle service booked through Central Park Hotel in AC for 2700 pesos. The driver was excellent, making the trip in 1.5 hours from AC...that's possibly record time for AC to Manila.
The first night we visited EDSA and came away with sticker shock. The girls were HOT, but the bar fine and girl's compensation is very expensive compared to AC. So, we decided to exit EDSA early, and to explore LA Cafe and Makati instead.
Since our access to internet was limited from Copacabana, my buddy and I decided that to try to research the boards concerning the delights of Makati would be difficult and tiring. We checked some of the archived stuff on his computer, but didn't find a lot of encouraging information relative to where to go in Makati.
I'm sure there is detail on the board, but we would have had to go to the internet shop to find it, and with the rainy, shitty weather, we were not sufficiently motivated to do so. We did have detail on the Airport Entertainment Center, but most of the reported information indicated that it was priced the same as EDSA.
On the first night, after visiting EDSA for about an hour and being disappointed in the price structure. We decided to explore LA Cafe. While on the way through Ermita to LA Cafe, our taxi driver pointed out a couple of bars that he said were much better than LA Cafe. But, since we hadn't visited LA Cafe, we were insistent on going there, not knowing if our driver was being motivated by the prospect of commissions or not. In retrospect, we realize that he was probably being straight with us. That's why we were hoping to go with him the second night so we could give him another chance to take us the places he had tried to recommend the night before. Unfortunately, he would be unavailable the second night.
We visited LA Cafe, and were relatively disappointed in the quality of selection there. It consisted of mostly older girls, and a relatively high percentage of fuglies. We did not stay very long, maybe a half hour, because we were simply unimpressed. We were repeatedly hit on, but decided that there may be better quality of selection elsewhere...not sure where, but LA Cafe did not push any buttons for us. We did not even get far enough in conversation with the girls to discuss their fees, and have no idea what they routinely charge. But, it would not have mattered as, IMHO, the selection was very mediocre. It was a rainy, nasty night, and perhaps only the starving fugly/older bar girls were out in force.
After being relatively disappointed with LA Cafe, I inquired with our driver about whether there were any decent Fish Bowls in Manila. He informed us that there were several good ones, and that there was one not too far from LA Cafe. He told us it was not his first choice, but it was close by.
Our taxi driver took us to the Fish Bowl located not too far from LA Cafe, probably less than five minutes away. It was a "Hole in the Wall" kind of place, with no markings or signage on it. It was not really a Fish Bowl, but rather a small, dirty room with opposing couches on either side of the room. When you arrive, the girls, about 15 of them, all file in and take a seat on the couch, where they wave and smile to entice you to select them. There were only three or four of them that appealed to us. But, we were running out of time, and we decided to go ahead and make a selection.
Later the next day, from another taxi driver, we learned that we can negotiate the Fish Bowl rates down to between $1500-$2000 pesos. That first night, as I said, my buddy and I selected two girls from the fish bowl. Both girls were cute, and both of them turned out to be really excellent GFE's. I meant to get the address information of the Fish Bowl for the board, but forgot to do so that night, fully intending to get details from the taxi driver the next day. Unfortunately, we were never able to hook up with the driver the next day, and the details of the Fish Bowl location are unknown to me at this juncture...Sorry.
Our intention for the following night was to call our trusted driver, and to use him to scope out the remaining Fish Bowls the second night. But, the following day, when we called him, he told us he was off duty. So, we figured we would have to start from scratch again, and hope that we could find a driver that was sufficiently hip as to know his way to the good Fish Bowls.
Anyway, because I was relatively disappointed in Manila, except for the Fish Bowl experience, I decided that I could still make it to AC for some fun that third night. I had to fly out of AC anyway for Singapore to return home the next day, and my buddy's return flight was out of Manila around noon the next day. So, I made an executive decision to go for the lazy man's alternative, that being the sure thing, to revisit AC that third night instead of remaining in Manila to complete my research on the Fish Bowl scene.
Because the trusted taxi driver was not available, I was doubtful that I would be able to find another driver in a timely manner, that is, enough of a timely manner to effectively scope out all the Fish Bowls in Manila in the one remaining night left. I just decided that rather than stay in Manila, where it was shitty weather (rainy), I would just use the time in the early evening that third night to take a taxi to AC, where I hoped I could find a girl for the night with plent of time to spare. I also felt that if I were in AC that night, then I could make it to the Clark Airport in a more leisurely manner the next day than from Manila.
Also, the noise level form the roadways was really very loud for me at Copacabana. I was on the 10th floor, and for some reason, there was a significant amount of horn blowing and traffic noise all day and night long. I noticed that my buddy's room on the fourth floor was seemingly much quieter, perhaps because there are other buildings around the lower floors that absorb the noise better. So, for me, the prospect of spending the night in Copacabana one more night was not appealing, and if I was going to go to the effort of repacking to change rooms, then I decided that I might as well pack up and just head for AC early.
One thing that convinced me to return to AC early from Manila was the price structure of Manila compared to AC, especially the bar fines in EDSA. My trip buddy and I were quoted a 1000 peso bar fine by the Mamasan at one of the bars there, the place with the automobile motif, which would have been perfectly acceptable, but the girl my buddy wanted told him that 1000 pesos is just the bar fine. She told him that she charges 3000 pesos in addition to the cost of the bar fine. So, for this particular girl, he was quoted a 1000 peso bar fine, plus a 3000 peso girl's fee, which would have made a 4000 peso total "bar fine."
We were told that the bar fine was about the same in all the clubs, and I guess perhaps we may have jumped to conclusions about what the actual negotiated reality is for EDSA including bar fines, girl's fee, plus tips. I'm sure the bar fine and girl's fees probably vary depending on the girl. The girl he was negotiating with was really HOT, and probably commanded a slightly higher bar fine. But, generallly the cost at EDSA is pretty high compared to AC.
Frankly, we were anxious to get out of EDSA after visiting only one of the bars, because we noticed that lady's drinks were very high, 350 pesos, and because the place was so empty, you are literally attacked by hordes of bar girls looking for drinks, tips for massage, tips for hot towels, tips for cold towels, photos, flowers, nuts, tips for photos, tips for flowers, and tips for nuts, and anything frickin' else they could think of, etc., etc, etc...and we even felt compelled to tip the fuckwads out front who helped us out of our taxi with an umbrella to the door of the complex, and back again. It was raining when we arrived, and we just accepted their "kindness" on the way to the door, thinking it was the EDSA Complex offering good customer relations...I know, we should have known better, AND DO!!!
I guess we were scared off by all the tipping, high drink prices, and then to be quoted a 4000 peso "bar fine," inclusive, we just assumed the entire EDSA Complex was like that. In reading the archives we had on computer about the newest other alterntive, the "EDSA-Like" airport venue, we also got that same impression, that there is an expectation for a sizeable girl's fee, plus bar fine, plus tip. That is, 1500-3000 pesos for the girl, over and above the 1000 peso bar fine. The way it was presented to us, the bar fine is strictly that, a bar fine, and not meant as compensation for the girl. That is the main important distinction to take note of when comparing AC versus Manila. In AC, the bar fine amount is inclusive, and the only additional cost is if you choose to tip or not.
One taxi driver informed us that he only makes about 250 pesos a day from driving his taxi in Manila, after expenses, inclucing taxi rent, gasoline, etc...Knowing what the taxi driver makes puts everything in perspective, and helps you to realize just how much money the girls are sometimes making if they get $1000-$3000 pesos as their share of the bar fine in EDSA. Of course there are almost no competing customers in EDSA, so who knows how often they are fortunate enough to find a bar fine. And, who knows if those ridiculous bar fines in EDSA can be negotiated down sufficiently to be attractive to the average AC monger.
I say the EDSA prices are riciculous, but really, I had considered just paying the bar fine there in EDSA and staying the night in Manila because the girls ARE really HOT. I mean we are talking a wopping $55 roughly, and I have paid almost three times that in Monterrey for only 2 hours. But, for some reason, I just had a desire to return to AC, and especially to scope out Perimeter Road once again.
Of course, based on what normal people make in Manila, I imagine you could bargain the girls down to a reasonable amount, maybe even 500-1000 pesos plus bar fine, but even at that, we were feeling reluctant that to bargain them down too low might detract from our overall GFE experience with them. So, we got cold feet over both of the Entertainment venues, EDSA and the Airport, and we had hoped more optomistically for better at LA Cafe...NOT!
We later learned from the taxi driver that there is also a relatively decent Fish Bowl scene in Manila as well. After we had visited LA Cafe, and decided we were relatively disappointed with it, we asked the taxi driver about Fish Bowls in the area. He said there were several in Manila. We decided to explore a Fish Bowl that was close, near LA Cafe. We actually found a couple of girls in the fish bowl that we liked, so we bar fined them.
The fishbowl did cost us 3000 pesos each for all night. We were originally quoted 4000 pesos, but negotiated that down to 3000 pesos with no detrimental effects to the GFE quality. Fact is, the girls were both really great GFE's.
We eventually concluded that if the fishbowls cost 3000 pesos, that apparently the girls at EDSA, who are better looking and have hotter and tighter bodies, would surely command at least slightly more, if not a lot more. So, the quoted 4000 peso total amount quoted for all nighters out of EDSA seemed consistent when compared with the fishbowl, which might even be available for 1500-2000 pesos if negotiated properly.
