German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

[QUOTE=MrHo;2313949]Yes in a way, some of the girls are the platform themselves calling friends to join saying how good of business it is in german FKK.[/QUOTE]Most FKK girls I knew / know closely (maybe 40-50 over last 5-6 years), were introduced to FKK business by some friend or cousin or even a sibling sister. This would be about 70-80% of them. I'm pretty sure that they don't have any loverboys or pimps (at least at the time I knew them) as I spent hours or days or even weeks at a time with many of them sometimes, without seeing any sign of any pimps or loverboys. Sometimes the girl will give me her phone to carry in my pocket when we are in a night club so she doesn't lose it, and there was no blowing up of that phone with anxious boy or pimp messages LOL. That said the sample distribution in my this very unscientific research might be skewed as usually I tend to get hard-on for only smart, strong minded, eloquent and beautiful girls who are less that 24 years young.

I knew a Bulgarian girl in Sharks who was "helping" other Bulgarian girl "friends" to come to Germany and work at Sharks, in exchange for a daily fixed amount for any day that the "friends" work, calling it her assistance / consulting fees. I'm pretty sure the Government would have called it "pimping", right?

[QUOTE=Fucker2019;2313799]Legalizing prostitution is a good first step and last step. It is the oldest profession in the world and can never be kept down.

State owned brothels? God, no! Why do we want the government to be fucking up this anymore than what they have already done?

Governments simply need to make this legal and get out of the way. Guys and girls will figure out how to do it what comes naturally.

And there is no reason to track any of this money, any more than tracking the money spent on drinking beer or eating pork. All of these ideas come from radical feminists and I understand how most people are used to such ideas after being bombarded with them for years but they are simply put, bad ideas. Less government is always the best solution.[/QUOTE]1. Nothing of this comes from feminists. I don't think many of the so called feminist groups would like it considering their ulterior motifs. And mainly due to most feminists then loosing out to the prettier more in demand women. As many feminists are generally far from good looking.

2. State run brothels doesn't have to mean they would need to pay normal taxes. They could get tax exemptions. Like artists does.

3. Everything is tracked nowadays, and soon more will be. Just suck it up! And it is the only way to tackle the pimp issue. Which is the main argument from the haters standpoint. So basically by removing the grounds for this argument, we create an atmosphere where it is harder to claim P6 should be illegal.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2313234]I don't get this.

How the hell can I be doing something illegal if I rent a flat to two girls that I meet with their jeans and sport shoes but at night they open wide their legs? How can I know this from before if the renting contract doesn't say that they work as prostitutes? If they say this OK I agree but, if they don't say the truth about their profession?[/QUOTE]I don't make French laws, nor in Germany, but you can have problems if your flat is used for prostitution, even you don't know about when renting. In France, I think the only way you are allowed to help a girl prostituting, even you don't know about her business, is if she is in danger.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2314305]Most FKK girls I knew / know closely (maybe 40-50 over last 5-6 years), were introduced to FKK business by some friend or cousin or even a sibling sister. This would be about 70-80% of them. I'm pretty sure that they don't have any loverboys or pimps (at least at the time I knew them) as I spent hours or days or even weeks at a time with many of them sometimes, without seeing any sign of any pimps or loverboys. Sometimes the girl will give me her phone to carry in my pocket when we are in a night club so she doesn't lose it, and there was no blowing up of that phone with anxious boy or pimp messages LOL.

[/QUOTE]+1. The loverboy, boyfriend and pimp situation was grossly exaggerated here on this forum. I was planning to write about it, but I was too lazy to do that.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2314247]Did you ever stop to think Romania is one of the poorest European countries, a country with a great separation in social classes, country with a super poor subset frequently labeled as gypsies, and of these groups women are the lowest subset of privilege. These women look around for a way out and chase promises of wealth and easy money regardless of education level. Once they arrive they find themselves in the quicksand of deb and desire.[/QUOTE]Yes, very poor country like Bulgaria, Republic of Moldavia, Ukraine, even Russia out of Moscow or Peter, but not only gypsies are pimped, some really good looking are pimped and even at LR, for those who heard about a car wash or a car for a brother who doesn't have driving licence, incredible stories, I just wish her to be free about her money now.

What is funny is when girls get free from BF / pimp, BF when they are with him, but when you speak with the girl after she left him or maybe more he left her, then she says he was really a bad guy for her, then she has to delete brother or father or cousin or dog name written on her, with a new big tattoo on it. Some girls are marked like cows belonging to a farm.

In Romania, families can't ignore about big fast money made by daughters when sons are so lazy. Some FKK girls I know a bit, even 1 is a big liar, tell me they don't want BF because they are afraid he only wants her money, more than her when I would fuck these beauties whole nights, more interesting than money for me, but I m not Romanian nor Albanian nor Turkish. When most guys are out of order at night, but when I m so happy to feel desire for a beauty, even not sleeping on previous nights, not needing pills as says Kate, little terminator is always ready when my eyes give him pleasure. I don t need to be rich but I like pleasure, skiing, bicycle climbing, working my job and with beauties.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2314247]Did you ever stop to think Romania is one of the poorest European countries, a country with a great separation in social classes, country with a super poor subset frequently labeled as gypsies, and of these groups women are the lowest subset of privilege. These women look around for a way out and chase promises of wealth and easy money regardless of education level. Once they arrive they find themselves in the quicksand of deb and desire.[/QUOTE]I have been to Romania in year 2001, which must have been even poorer than now. I also been to Moldova few time, the last time I went to Moldova is in year 2010, but what I meant is that there are way too many Romanian to just think this is a result of someone just calling one upon another. I am sure it began that way and some still are, but due to too heavily concentration of Romanian in German FKK line up, I just thought there is some kind of platform behind to make them easier to walk into business.

Back in their home, they do not know how safe FKK is, we monger do, but these girls did not when they once were normal girls and they must have been scared to come, I mean this is how bad thing happen like human slave etc it usually is recommended by relative or friends, then once they get to promised safe work place, then bad thing begin. So I just think there must be a platform that convince them that it is safe and make them easier to come. Even to afford to come is big money for them at the beginning, their monthly income must be low end of few hundred euro per month like 200 euro per month or something, so it is big decision for them both financially, life and also safety issue because it can be extremely dangerous because they don't know if FKK is safe, which actually is, but they don't know what till they come.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2314305]Most FKK girls I knew / know closely (maybe 40-50 over last 5-6 years), were introduced to FKK business by some friend or cousin or even a sibling sister. This would be about 70-80% of them. I'm pretty sure that they don't have any loverboys or pimps (at least at the time I knew them) as I spent hours or days or even weeks at a time with many of them sometimes, without seeing any sign of any pimps or loverboys. Sometimes the girl will give me her phone to carry in my pocket when we are in a night club so she doesn't lose it, and there was no blowing up of that phone with anxious boy or pimp messages LOL. That said the sample distribution in my this very unscientific research might be skewed as usually I tend to get hard-on for only smart, strong minded, eloquent and beautiful girls who are less that 24 years young.

I knew a Bulgarian girl in Sharks who was "helping" other Bulgarian girl "friends" to come to Germany and work at Sharks, in exchange for a daily fixed amount for any day that the "friends" work, calling it her assistance / consulting fees. I'm pretty sure the Government would have called it "pimping", right?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I am still seeking sisters in FKK to do threesome, but one of them is not my type always so I always has to decline, if they actually were sisters. But, I hear that there once was amazing twins that were identical in Artemis for little while, and I never got to even see them but wow, I would love to session with beautiful twin, that would be surreal experience twin giving BBBJ at same time LOL!

Yes, I agree with you that some of them are, but I do think they get some kind of kick back money by club or platform if they scout and make girls to actually come to FKK, you know some kind of kick back fee. That would be good business model for everybody.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2314247]Did you ever stop to think Romania is one of the poorest European countries, a country with a great separation in social classes, country with a super poor subset frequently labeled as gypsies, and of these groups women are the lowest subset of privilege. These women look around for a way out and chase promises of wealth and easy money regardless of education level. Once they arrive they find themselves in the quicksand of deb and desire.[/QUOTE]Romania is not like that anymore. I went to Bucharest even for one day and I did not see any poverty or poor people. It has changed the last 8-10 years and is still changing, their economy is going high, and they will also enter the eurozone soon.

Many girls say that they expect to make a few hundred Euro a month if they were to work a normal job in Romania. "I make in one day here in the club what I expect to make in a month back home" is a common refrain.

I know (we all do) many FKK girls who retired and then bounced back into the clubs in a year or less as they burned through all their savings, and could not find any other job that pays even remotely close to their German body selling gig.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2314501]Romania is not like that anymore. I went to Bucharest even for one day and I did not see any poverty or poor people. It has changed the last 8-10 years and is still changing, their economy is going high, and they will also enter the eurozone soon.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrHo;2314120]Right, all we care is us securely fucking young beautiful girls one after another without too much up sell LOL!

But it is interesting to know what is going on behind FKK scene.[/QUOTE]Salaam, Ho-san. If we want to play a game well, we need to know what the rules of the game are. Don't trust posters who say we shouldn't ask too many questions.

If you see a group of girls who are unmotivated it's natural to ask why. In my experience, freelancers are always motivated because they are earning good money.

If a girl has tattoos that doesn't necessarily she is branded. But if she has a big black mark on her body (which I sometimes see) that might suggest she is undergoing a process of [I]rebranding[/I]. Which makes me feel uncomfortable.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2314390]Yeah, I am still seeking sisters in FKK to do threesome, but one of them is not my type always so I always has to decline, if they actually were sisters. But, I hear that there once was amazing twins that were identical in Artemis for little while, and I never got to even see them but wow, I would love to session with beautiful twin, that would be surreal experience twin giving BBBJ at same time LOL!.[/QUOTE]Last year in Atmos I had sessions with 2 beautiful twin Italian sisters and though they were not identical they looked very similar. Their names were Sina and Aida. This was my report:

[QUOTE]Girls Sessioned With:

1. Sina (ex 'Angel' GT) 25 yrs 180 cm Rom / Italian.

Brnette straight dark hair, tall slender model, beautiful face, amazing body. 9/10/7. Spent 60 minutes for 250 for everything I wanted included. Did her in many positions and came in doggy. Her body was absolutely perfect and once in the mood was very passionate and also very funny although initially I thought she was a bit sassy. Gave her a massage afterwards. She has a.

2. Sister Aida 178 cm 26 yrs beautiful green eyes dark hair again. Face not quite as pretty. 8/9/9. 5 100 e for 30 min but excellent session. All in. Better in bed than sister but not quite physically perfect! Next time I'll go with her first! Despite asking they don't do threesomes together! Aida said she also worked in Ying Yang and Living Room before. Look v similar to each other so much I thought were identical twins. Both had tattoo on wrist saying 'My sister My Life' and were very close which I thought was sweet.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2314501]Romania is not like that anymore. I went to Bucharest even for one day and I did not see any poverty or poor people. It has changed the last 8-10 years and is still changing, their economy is going high, and they will also enter the eurozone soon.[/QUOTE]It's still poor and plagued with corruption.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2314727]Salaam, Ho-san. If we want to play a game well, we need to know what the rules of the game are. Don't trust posters who say we shouldn't ask too many questions.

If you see a group of girls who are unmotivated it's natural to ask why. In my experience, freelancers are always motivated because they are earning good money.

If a girl has tattoos that doesn't necessarily she is branded. But if she has a big black mark on her body (which I sometimes see) that might suggest she is undergoing a process of [I]rebranding[/I]. Which makes me feel uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]We should not think so far, go, pay and fuck and leave the best way to stay happy.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2314501]Romania is not like that anymore. I went to Bucharest even for one day and I did not see any poverty or poor people. It has changed the last 8-10 years and is still changing, their economy is going high, and they will also enter the eurozone soon.[/QUOTE]Ask Romanian girls you meet in FKK if they are rich in Romania, those who worked a bit in Romania before brothels, made 200/300 € per month. Families are waiting for money made by daughters.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2314727]Salaam, Ho-san. If we want to play a game well, we need to know what the rules of the game are. Don't trust posters who say we shouldn't ask too many questions.

If you see a group of girls who are unmotivated it's natural to ask why. In my experience, freelancers are always motivated because they are earning good money.

If a girl has tattoos that doesn't necessarily she is branded. But if she has a big black mark on her body (which I sometimes see) that might suggest she is undergoing a process of [I]rebranding[/I]. Which makes me feel uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]Well, I actually heard different from girl. I hear that pimps rarely rough up their girls, they only do it very sometimes as their whip and candy strategy. What I hear is that they give girls sense of security because these girls never had any security, so actually most of time pimps are actually nice to their girls as long as money is coming in from her to sustain the "security place" he built for her.

If they constantly beat women like in movies, they will naturally run away soon or later, but these pimped girl last long time in FKK. The bottom line is that these girls do not think they are pimped, they just think they belong to gang of people who give them sense of belonging and security, which these girls never had, so these girls are actually comfortable doing this job for him.

It is strange thing to do, but it does make irrational logic.

I think it is using emotional irrational side women to his advantage. Quite a trick to play actually, pimp could be good management position if he had chance to be such position.