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[QUOTE=Jinxx;2592468].....Years ago I was in Medellin Colombia and a puta I was hooking up with on a regular basis wanted me to go spend Christmas with her family in some poor barrio. She was a total sweetheart but there was no freaking way I'd feel safe hanging out with some hooker's family in some poor barrio in Colombia. That was just way out of my comfort zone. The chica kinda got offended by that and afterwards things were never the same between us. I felt bad for I guess hurting her feelings but we all have our limits as to how much risk we're willing to assume.[/QUOTE]That very same thing happened to me some years ago in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The woman was really hurt and being with her afterwards was uncomfortable.
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[QUOTE=Jinxx;2592468]Nothing wrong with that. Every individual is different, and every situation is different. The main thing is if you have good judgement as to who you can trust. Some guys have poor judgement and they allow a chica to lead them down the wrong path. Only you truly know what you can handle and what you can't handle.[/QUOTE]Man this is so true. I think we all need to be honest with ourselves. We all like to think we are great judges of character. But I think we need to self-assess our results. I read alot of horror stories here. Luck plays a part but I trust my gut 100%. And it has never steered me wrong. If you are a guy that has been repeatedly burned, you got to stop and assess what warning signs you are missing.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2592583]That very same thing happened to me some years ago in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The woman was really hurt and being with her afterwards was uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]So I take it her family didn't live in Recoleta.
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Mexico FMM
[QUOTE=HappyPlaces;2592430]Been awhile since I've been to HK. Was just wondering if we need to get that FMM to go into Tijuana now.[/QUOTE]Yes, you have to complete it. The FMM is simply the immigration form that you have to fill out when you enter Mexico. It is no different from when you visit any other country around the world and the flight attendants give you an immigration form to complete on the flight for when you arrive at your destination. You can use the link listed below to complete it in advance and bring a printed copy with you for when you cross the border. It is supposed to be free if you are visiting for 7 days or less, and then its $30 if you are visiting for 8-180 days. There are some people who have been forced by MX border guards to pay for a 180 day FMM opposed to the free 7 day FMM during the time when travel was supposed to be restricted to "essential reasons" only, however, it appears that in recent weeks this practice has mostly stopped.
[URL]https://www.inm.gob.mx/fmme/publico/en/solicitud.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2592345]I think social media has a lot to do with personal dissatisfaction with their bodies and lives. I believe in Karma and up front and honest with people I meet, you never know when you could run into them again in life. I had fun last night. Broke my rule of going to a chicas house. I spent the night and didn't plan on doing an overnighter. The regular really likes to cuddle and hug, which I needed and the other one texted me at 1 am because she couldn't sleep and hopes I'm having fun at HK, whatever that means.[/QUOTE]Yes social media doesn't help with a woman's self esteem these days but even before social media the girls working in the bars would be getting boob jobs and ass implants.
Well that late night text might of been her just being home alone and sad but trying to play it cool that you were back in HK.
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[QUOTE=Turgid;2592583]That very same thing happened to me some years ago in Buenos Aires, Argentina. The woman was really hurt and being with her afterwards was uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]Well I can understand that you two feel that way but why in the world do you feel you need to communicate that to them, couldn't you find any other excuse? Of course if she cared enough for you to invite you to spend time with her family during the holidays that would be an extremely hurtful thing to say. Some guys man, especially someone you're hoping to keep getting ass from. "Being with her wasn't the same" No shit.
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Money
[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2592346]You can request songs at Chicago club. The DJ came over to ask what song I wanted, but I couldn't think as I was making out with a chica. Music was the last thing on my mind. I'm sure other clubs should take requests.[/QUOTE]As long as you have money the DJ will play whatever you want. LOL My ex use to play a bunch of songs for me and it was always embarrassing.
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[QUOTE=Jinxx;2592468]Nothing wrong with that. Every individual is different, and every situation is different. The main thing is if you have good judgement as to who you can trust. Some guys have poor judgement and they allow a chica to lead them down the wrong path. Only you truly know what you can handle and what you can't handle.
Years ago I was in Medellin Colombia and a puta I was hooking up with on a regular basis wanted me to go spend Christmas with her family in some poor barrio. She was a total sweetheart but there was no freaking way I'd feel safe hanging out with some hooker's family in some poor barrio in Colombia. That was just way out of my comfort zone. The chica kinda got offended by that and afterwards things were never the same between us. I felt bad for I guess hurting her feelings but we all have our limits as to how much risk we're willing to assume.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. I wouldn't want to visit family either especially for the holidays, as I have my own family. I would maybe see them in passing if visiting their hometown, but I feel more comfortable in American standard hotels with AC. I feel for the girls as they live in rough places with no AC.
I would like to visit Medellin, but my Spanish is nonexistent. My ex wife's brother married an American Colombian and she was psycho. I'm sure it isn't a good comparison as every once in a while you'll run across one and like you said, just set your limits like in investing or gambling. So far they've all been genuine and truly know how to take care of you like Thai women. I just don't have to travel half way across the world for it. I am going to see how things go with her after the lipo. I hold out hope it is still the same, but like you, know that shit will probably not be the same.
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[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2592381]Yeah I never listened to Banda as my ex hated it. I do enjoy listening to the various music that the chicas like as they are from different regions. Sinaloan chica liked Banda and a Sonoran liked cumbia. I don't have knowledge of Mexican music other than what they play in the USA I try to get their favorite song and add it to my workout playlist and I can workout and hopefully recall the specific lady.[/QUOTE]Yeah Banda is something that grows on you and is definitely more of a guys sitting around drinking music as compared to the romantic stuff that the ladies like. Most of what they play in the US is the same. I grew up on the stuff going to parties in the OC so by the time I went to Tijuana air was all the same.
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Selena
[QUOTE=Rog123;2592400]I recently watched the Selena series on Netflix. It was actually pretty good. I'm surprised how many songs I was familiar with because of Tijuana. They must play her music a lot in La Zona.[/QUOTE]Agree, I really enjoyed the first season and how much more they covered compared to the movie. I personally don't hear her music in Tijuana much anymore. But all the chicas know the songs.
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[QUOTE=Jackie888;2592399]I think you are on the right course. You should keep on doing the things you are doing.[/QUOTE]Sorry if offended, but they provide a service that fulfills my need and I provide financial assistance by paying them when I leave. They say they have fun and so do I. Just have to make sure no one gets serious feelings for each other. I still have to wait for SEA to open up and I'll probably on the first flight to donate to the Thai bar girl assistance fund.
I was riding down to HK in their limo and met a guy from Temecula. He brought his regular roses and I asked where he has been and hasn't been to Thailand. I told him Pattaya is a whole city of P4 P and his eyes lit up. I told him ZN is just a couple blocks, but Monger destinations have whole cities of P4 P bars and clubs. I also mentioned the Macau saunas and the HK walk ups. I said they have whole buildings where you can just knock on the door and see who is behind it. Sometimes you find a Russian, Chinese, Ukrainian, etc. Fun times and I miss traveling.
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Home
[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2592670]Thanks for sharing. I wouldn't want to visit family either especially for the holidays. I would maybe see them in passing if visiting their hometown, but I feel more comfortable in American standard hotels with AC. I feel for the girls as they live in rough places with no AC.
I would like to visit Medellin, but my Spanish is nonexistent. My ex wife's brother married an American Colombian and she was psycho. I'm sure it isn't a good comparison as every once in a while you'll run across one and like you said, just set your limits like in investing or gambling. So far they've all been genuine and truly know how to take care of you like Thai women. I just don't have to travel half way across the world for it. I am going to see how things go with her after the lipo. I hold out hope it is still the same, but like you, know that shit will probably not be the same.[/QUOTE]Wow you guys are so spoiled. Look unless you are really serious about a girl I can understand not wanting to see her family or hometown but don't let be just because you have certain standards. We should all try to get out of our comfort zones from time to time to see what else life has to offer. I spent a week with no running water a / see private bed but it was a great experience to see how other people live and get by. Also they were very happy. It made me appreciate what I had in life but also made me realize how little in life we really need. For me that's the part of Mexico I enjoy discovering and the people.
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[QUOTE=HappyPlaces;2592430]Been awhile since I've been to HK. Was just wondering if we need to get that FMM to go into Tijuana now.[/QUOTE]If you read back through the forum you will see its hit and miss. All depends on the agent you deal with. If you are walking in just be prepared to spend the $30 for the 180 day fmm. Don't do the $20 bribe, best to spend the extra $10 and insist on the 180 day. That is if at least you think you will be back again in the next 6 months.
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[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2592677]Sorry if offended, but they provide a service that fulfills my need and I provide financial assistance by paying them when I leave. They say they have fun and so do I. Just have to make sure no one gets serious feelings for each other. I still have to wait for SEA to open up and I'll probably on the first flight to donate to the Thai bar girl assistance fund. [/QUOTE]I too am just waiting for SEA to reopen. It's really unfortunate that Thailand is having so many problems acquiring vaccine doses as from the research I've done, it sounds like the government is hell-bent on not allowing vaccinated foreign travelers to enter (without a mandatory 14-day quarantine upon arrival) until a high enough percentage of the local population in a given area is immunized that herd immunity in that area is reached. Supposedly the government wants to focus vaccination efforts on Bangkok and Pattaya next (after finishing Phuket) because of the amount of money that visitors to those areas bring in. Last I read was that the best case scenario would be BKK and Pattaya opening up sometime in Q4 of this year. Until they reopen, HK and the other ZN establishments will have to suffice. By no means are they bad, but as KoolBeans hinted to the fellow monger in the limo, they pale in comparison to a place like Pattaya where an entire city is essentially p4 p. Needless to say, as soon as BKK / Pattaya open up I will be on the next flight. Since places shut down in March of last year I've saved all of my vacation days at work so that I can visit as soon as they reopen.
P.S.: thanks for the advice about Macau. I know it's a huge gambling place but wasn't aware that they have a decent p4 p scene there too.
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[QUOTE=DimesADozen12;2592722]I too am just waiting for SEA to reopen. It's really unfortunate that Thailand is having so many problems acquiring vaccine doses as from the research I've done, it sounds like the government is hell-bent on not allowing vaccinated foreign travelers to enter (without a mandatory 14-day quarantine upon arrival) until a high enough percentage of the local population in a given area is immunized that herd immunity in that area is reached. Supposedly the government wants to focus vaccination efforts on Bangkok and Pattaya next (after finishing Phuket) because of the amount of money that visitors to those areas bring in. Last I read was that the best case scenario would be BKK and Pattaya opening up sometime in Q4 of this year. Until they reopen, HK and the other ZN establishments will have to suffice. By no means are they bad, but as KoolBeans hinted to the fellow monger in the limo, they pale in comparison to a place like Pattaya where an entire city is essentially p4 p. Needless to say, as soon as BKK / Pattaya open up I will be on the next flight. Since places shut down in March of last year I've saved all of my vacation days at work so that I can visit as soon as they reopen.
P.S.: thanks for the advice about Macau. I know it's a huge gambling place but wasn't aware that they have a decent p4 p scene there too.[/QUOTE]Macau was ok. I tried the Lisboa hotel and didn't find anyone interested in, but I usually travel during weekdays. It could have been wrong time, wrong season, wrong day? I thoroughly enjoyed the many saunas in the city like Familia Nobre and my favorite The One. Not sure if they are open, but this was a couple years back. They have lineups of Russians, Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Vietnamese with different tiered pricing for each ethnicity with white women being highest for some reason. Also when you enter you leave personal stuff in a locker and they give you a wrist band. You take a shower and they give you shorts and a robe. You enter a lounge area where they offer you free food and beverages with tvs. Viet masseuse ladies offer hand job (thigh massage), ear cleaning, shoulder massage, pretty much anything besides FS in the lounge. I took an Indonesian that knew English from the lineup as most stared distantly like they didn't want to be working and the Indonesian just smiled at me during the lineup. It was ok session and the rooms have different themes.
The hottest session was a Viet thigh masseuse that took me to a private room for a hand job. I was licking on her nipples and rubbing her kitty while she was giving me a hand job on the lounge chair. It ended up being BBFS with her riding me CG and me switching from kissing her and nipple licking. She kept telling me I'm a bad man and to keep quiet as it was just supposed to be a hand job, but not sure what other English words she knew. So hot and remember it to this day. I actually rode the ferry back from Hong Kong the next day to find her again. If you don't take a lady from the lineup, then you have to pay for a certain number of services, but I don't recall anything being more than $250-$400 total for my bill upon checkout. I think you can sleep all day there so highly recommend if you have layover or early flight out of HK as long as the ferry schedule lines up.
Also played BJ at the Wynn with some Chinese nationals and we were high fiving and fist bumping. Playing card games is universal and also when a newbie came that didn't know how to play they were scolding them in Mandarin. The free drinks seemed to be nonalcoholic that consisted of juice and hot teas. Also the casinos offer free shuttles from Ferry terminals. If a baller you could fly by helo.
The HK walk ups were buildings that had women behind every door and you just knock or ring a bell and see who is behind it. I don't speak Mandarin or Cantonese, but money talks. It was fairly cheap (500-600 HKD) from what I recall as I was riding the subway to different buildings and knocking on half the doors. Something different for sure and also hit or miss regarding chemistry. A Russian lady I was banging asked if I was a porn star and I just laughed, but she had a tattoo of angel wings on her entire back that made it look like she was flying while hitting it from behind. Fun times for sure! Ended up walking 60 miles in the 1 week I was in town. They also have Uber if you don’t want to walk and take mass transit.