FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=Optimist;2030692]John Ellee.

Thanks for the explanation: now your original comment makes sense to me.

No offence taken.

We have different views: 3000 on one girl is for me a lot of money.[/QUOTE]Sometimes when you find your really top girl who is all what you like as woman behavior, only 23 yo, but Romanian sophisticated classy brunette with very white skin and green eyes, becoming very hot, you can be about 2000 per month on only her, 5 hours weekly. I agree this is too much money, and my bank is happy when she is on holidays. But, if sometimes I think I lost 50 € with some girls, I don t regret my more than 30 1 h 30 rooms since end of December, even not sure we will go for record.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2030724]Problem with Switzerland is it's twice as expensive, not just sex but hotels and everything. Austria is also more expensive than Germany and DFK is rarer (see my post, the War on Kissing).

Any other FKK countries?

In general though the Achilles Heel of the FKK concept is that it makes sex centralized and so subject to the death-chilling embrace of Regulation.[/QUOTE]No big problems for DFK at Wellcum and Andiamo. At for 70/30 mn.

Fortunately, many German clubs where DFK are standard without upselling.

After 1st July, YY NL will become Eldorado for BBBJ.

For PL and her fans.

From jolie Sara with her high black socks at Mainhattan, to Sharks rather than Palace, improving her nails color care, model Meg. Ro is now ready for better business her beauty deserve, at Globe, as Megan there. If Aurelia succeeded, she can get good business there. No need to be a porn performer, she has the sweet behavior, men who are able to love women, like.

It was just devil thanks to her, for free and she will have more time at home between tours when she should make bigger money, being one of the prettiest when casting is lower than last Summer.

[QUOTE=Shark16;2030663]Not quite correct, but I see where you are coming from.

I can only speak for Bernd's of course, but several Bernd's girls have told me that they indeed CAN refuse DFK to any gent for hygienic reasons (bad breath, too much alcohol, ++), but they have to be upfront with it giving the gent a chance to abort the session without having to pay. So; DFK is indeed a standard service that should be expected, but have no doubts; it can be refused.

What is unheard of, of course, is a Bernd's girl asking for extra for DFK or saying it is subject to 1 HR session. That will never happen.[/QUOTE]When I got lost at Bernds last Friday, I saw at the bar downstairs a 19 yo Romanian girl long time deeply kissing a old fat guy who opened her legs as she was sitting, to put fingers in her pussy, at the bar. I preferred to turn the head. After few minutes, he fucked her in the room with window.

I really don t know what Bernds girls refuse, and that s why these kind of guys visit Bernds, because they know girls don t refuse anything.

My regulars ask me not to take them to kino, my regular number 1 preferred we wait for more than 2 hours for key.

[QUOTE=JohnEllee;2030442]

I don't believe changing minimum service time from 0. 5 hour to 1 hour is " Raising FKK price". The extension of every half hours is still 50 euros. Artemis pricing schema is 60 e for every half hour. I consider that case is the price rising.[/QUOTE]Only as long as you consider the 2nd half to be as valuable for you as a customer as the 1st half. To me, it never is, and for the girls also, it never is as they need to shower after the session. The +100% price for the 2nd half hour is thus quite moronic. And that is why I would consider the minimum 1 h a price hike. I would be fine with 60e half h/100e full h however. Then the girls inflation argument goes away, and on paper they would have less to argue with. But that is a different price hike.

Sybarite: what you don't consider is points already raised. Reduce the 30min session quality, and less guys will take chances on trying new girls. Fractional spending will also decrease. The total money supply spent for FKK's will thus fall, and as far as what I can tell, that is and in a sane world, should be the main point here. If guys and girls are happier, the total spending also increases...

People need to take a short micro economics course... And here I was thinking most guys who ventures in the german financial hub of frankfurt were economists. (No offence ofc)

I don t think 60 € for first 30 mn would improve low level girls. From my very few, weekly experiences, high level girls don t upsell, don t ask for tip, sometimes even offer extra like CIM or other games, just for club rate, but with high level girls, I never stay 30 mn because most often we are kissing and caressing for more than 30 mn, so as I become slower and slower to kiss and lick, with really high level girls, my standard is often 1 h30 and 150 , with 1 hour to foreplay.

After 1st July, high level girls will stay high level, and even paying extra, low level girls are low level because they just don t have woman skill and behavior.

A rhyme some girls used to have.

"If you think my charge is funny.

Go fuck yourself and save your money".

I'm not making any point. Just amuses me.

[QUOTE=TrebleMachine;2030719]After a few months spell away from FKK land I should be spending a weekend around FFM later in May.

Sharks is definitely on the list but I was wondering if one of my favorite girls is still working there: it's Angelika from Latvia, the milfy baltic lady.

Yes, I have a sweet tooth for big asses / thick hips / big naturals. Any other girl fitting the description you would recommend?[/QUOTE]I've got pretty much the same tastes as you. Do you know which club is best to find those curvy MILF beauties? There is this very tall curvy Lithuanian blonde at Sharks, I forgot her name but she really turned me on when I first saw her and her service was top notch. I might go there again next week to see her. I actually knew a Latvian escort in London back in the day which matches your description pretty much, she left the UK a few years ago but told me she was going to Germany every now and then.

[QUOTE=Sybarite2006;2030732]I'm with Sirioja on this. I rarely take girls for less than an hour session and usually include one or two extras as well so I don't think much will change for me personally after July 1st. Secondly if you think about it, 50/30 has been the going rate for a long time- certainly since my 10 years of mongering in FKKs- and I can't think of another industry where the price has stayed the same for a decade or more! Those wanting the same service for 50 E which others who are willing to spent a lot more time and money on are living in a fool's paradise and are cheap fkkers! Think of it from a girl's perspective: why should she give the same level of service to a guy who is only paying 50 E as compared to someone paying her 250 E? Doesn't make sense right?

Of course as a buyer I would prefer if it stayed as it is but I am realistic enough to understand why a lot of girls no longer offer DFK and everything for just 50/30. If I was a FKK girl I wouldn't either. You can't expect to pay McDonald's prices and get Michelin star service! Since I've been a regular at many clubs I can still get my regular girls to give my DFK and excellent GFE services but that's because they know I am going to spend time with them of at least one hour although if I'm rushed and spend only 30 min they still give me the same level of service for 50..[/QUOTE]I don't agree, even I m not a 50 € guy, but I m not a model for what to do. When I spend too much money in brothels, I can understand some guys can't afford to spend much, but also want to have good time. Some can only have 130 mn room for 40 at Aca or 50 elsewhere. Fortunately, I think girls like Mandy or Marina. Lat try to please good behavior clients, even for short time and small money room.

For those who knew little angel Ina. Lat, the most honest girl, when she worked at VIP GT on July 2013, she respected rate at this time, so you could fuck her for 2 hours for 125, for 3 hours for 175, for 4 hours for 225. High level honest girl fluently kissing, skillful for BBBJ.

Upselling girls are not the best in room. Money talk kill my desire, that's why I never speak about money with WGs, we both know club rates.

My advice: when a girl start to upsell before room, next one, play again. When a girl start the room upselling, don't touch her and leave the room, to find next one.

Of course, this is very difficult bad job, but how many of us make 50/30 mn in our job, in Germany, in France or even in Switzerland? In France, it would be 15000/16000 per month.

[QUOTE=Pistons;2030827]Only as long as you consider the 2nd half to be as valuable for you as a customer as the 1st half. To me, it never is, and for the girls also, it never is as they need to shower after the session. The +100% price for the 2nd half hour is thus quite moronic. And that is why I would consider the minimum 1 h a price hike. I would be fine with 60e half h/100e full h however. Then the girls inflation argument goes away, and on paper they would have less to argue with. But that is a different price hike.

Sybarite: what you don't consider is points already raised. Reduce the 30min session quality, and less guys will take chances on trying new girls. Fractional spending will also decrease. The total money supply spent for FKK's will thus fall, and as far as what I can tell, that is and in a sane world, should be the main point here. If guys and girls are happier, the total spending also increases...

People need to take a short micro economics course... And here I was thinking most guys who ventures in the german financial hub of frankfurt were economists. (No offence ofc)[/QUOTE]It depends for what you are looking for, let us imagine a session like this, first kissing, touching the body, discovering the other, after some nice DFK which can take at least 15 minimum if you want to be sure the girl will get some real pleasure, after sex in 2 or 3 positions, and after coming you stay with her at least for 15 minutes to enjoy the after sex time, how to do this in 30 minutes?

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2030776]For PL and her fans.

From jolie Sara with her high black socks at Mainhattan, to Sharks rather than Palace, improving her nails color care, model Meg. Ro is now ready for better business her beauty deserve, at Globe, as Megan there. If Aurelia succeeded, she can get good business there. No need to be a porn performer, she has the sweet behavior, men who are able to love women, like.

It was just devil thanks to her, for free and she will have more time at home between tours when she should make bigger money, being one of the prettiest when casting is lower than last Summer.[/QUOTE]Hey Sirioja,

Do you know where in Germany I can find natural curvy beautiful milfs? Preferably Germans and EE girls. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2030781]When I got lost at Bernds last Friday, I saw at the bar downstairs a 19 yo Romanian girl long time deeply kissing a old fat guy who opened her legs as she was sitting, to put fingers in her pussy, at the bar. I preferred to turn the head. After few minutes, he fucked her in the room with window.

I really don t know what Bernds girls refuse, and that s why these kind of guys visit Bernds, because they know girls don t refuse anything.

My regulars ask me not to take them to kino, my regular number 1 preferred we wait for more than 2 hours for key.[/QUOTE]You're such a gentleman and adonis, I envy the princesses who are allowed to enjoy your juvenile body, love making techniques and eloquent compliments.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2030922]You're such a gentleman and adonis, I envy the princesses who are allows to enjoy your juvenile body, love making techniques and eloquent compliments.

HB.[/QUOTE]I don't understand your ironic comment, is it not human and gentlemen to have some limits in our behavior, do you really think that a guy who in front of others is putting his fingers in a pussy of a poor / desperate girl, is behaving like a real man who is loving girls or just like a perverse poor man who should certainly invest his money in a psychotherapy and not in clubs.

Thanks, now I have a new comment to use when girls try to upsell:

"I think your charge is funny".

If they respond with.

"Then go fuck yourself and save your money".

I will answer with.

"Fine, I might as well go wank my johnny".

Or.

"If you insist, but I will think of you, my little bunny".

[QUOTE=Pistons;2030938]Thanks, now I have a new comment to use when girls try to upsell:

"I think your charge is funny".

If they respond with.

"Then go fuck yourself and save your money".

I will answer with.

"Fine, I might as well go wank my johnny".

Or.

"If you insist, but I will think of you, my little bunny".[/QUOTE]Are you really still this kind of guy after so many experiences who is believing that he can get everything for 50 euros let us be reasonable, we all know that for 95% of us it is impossible, just some german guys in the clubs believe it and are stressfully looking for the new comers to try to get the maximum from that new girls for 50 euros, it is disapparating me about he human being.