Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=Sol12;2592679]Wow you guys are so spoiled. Look unless you are really serious about a girl I can understand not wanting to see her family or hometown but don't let be just because you have certain standards. We should all try to get out of our comfort zones from time to time to see what else life has to offer. I spent a week with no running water a / see private bed but it was a great experience to see how other people live and get by. Also they were very happy. It made me appreciate what I had in life but also made me realize how little in life we really need. For me that's the part of Mexico I enjoy discovering and the people.[/QUOTE]Believe me, I appreciate what I have and good things in life. When I was younger I can still recall to this day eating from garbage cans and living in filth. Took bucket showers on Soi 6, burned shit while deployed, didn't shower for 45 days when deployed, etc. Also my blood type must attract mosquitos as they tear me a new one if I'm staying at a place without proper netting or fully enclosed. I have experienced subpar accommodations and prefer not to ever have to if it is my choice.

[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2592677]Sorry if offended, but they provide a service that fulfills my need and I provide financial assistance by paying them when I leave. They say they have fun and so do I. Just have to make sure no one gets serious feelings for each other. I still have to wait for SEA to open up and I'll probably on the first flight to donate to the Thai bar girl assistance fund.

I was riding down to HK in their limo and met a guy from Temecula. He brought his regular roses and I asked where he has been and hasn't been to Thailand. I told him Pattaya is a whole city of P4 P and his eyes lit up. I told him ZN is just a couple blocks, but Monger destinations have whole cities of P4 P bars and clubs. I also mentioned the Macau saunas and the HK walk ups. I said they have whole buildings where you can just knock on the door and see who is behind it. Sometimes you find a Russian, Chinese, Ukrainian, etc. Fun times and I miss traveling.[/QUOTE]I want to go to SEA very badly. Never been. Thailand seems to be the place to go. It's very intimidating to me though. I am almost completely ignorant of the culture and I do not want to be one of those guys. I am completely ignorant of languages as well. Maybe some day. The travel seems a bit overwhelming too, coming from the East Coast.

[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2592381]Yeah I never listened to Banda as my ex hated it. I do enjoy listening to the various music that the chicas like as they are from different regions. Sinaloan chica liked Banda and a Sonoran liked cumbia. I don't have knowledge of Mexican music other than what they play in the USA I try to get their favorite song and add it to my workout playlist and I can workout and hopefully recall the specific lady.[/QUOTE]I had a few good experiences dancing in Chavellas to the Mexican music with the Girls. It was so hot being able to squeeze parts of their bodies as they moved to the music. It's one thing to enjoy watching girls dance but the feeling their body as they dance is Amazing. Also like to ask the girls what kind of music style is the song that we were dancing to. They seemed appreciative that I cared for their music genres and I learned a bit more about the music as well. Not all are good dancers though. Just cause they have beautiful bodies doesn't mean that they are at all in touch with their sexuality of how to move it etc.

G.

Appreciate the responses fellas about the fmm!

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2592768]I want to go to SEA very badly. Never been. Thailand seems to be the place to go. It's very intimidating to me though. I am almost completely ignorant of the culture and I do not want to be one of those guys. I am completely ignorant of languages as well. Maybe some day. The travel seems a bit overwhelming too, coming from the East Coast.[/QUOTE]Don't worry man, just don't fall in love. You'll hear "hey sexy man" and be pulled into bars by 90 lbs. Bar girls. They are so hospitable too. They have pros that have worked for ages, but others you find can blow you away. I met one that I spent significant time with on and off for 3 years. My first trip we clicked on first meeting and later she took me on her motorbike to all the sights so kind of a tour guide. We had a blast and even took her to Siem Reap.

Something to try before you leave this Earth. Pattaya for nightlife and Phuket for the all day boat trips to the islands. Such a beautiful country and people, land of smiles. I'm sure we have members on this board that probably do different things, but they have BJ bars, Devils Den that offers threesomes and van rides from airport with your chosen ladies, soapy massages, good food, tourist sights, etc. Definitely recommend it! I try to be honest with the bar girls and she knew I was in a relationship so no promises, but fun times, then I guess she caught feelings and cut it off. Nothing like waking up to a BBBJ every morning and fresh fruits and food. It was a decade ago so younger and sure I worked the bar girls out. I only took short 1 week trips as it was mini vacation from the war zone.

Sorry I have not reported. I was swamped with work when I returned home. I will write a report tonight or tomorrow.

Anyway, I had a wonderful time thanks to all the information given here. You guys rock.

Funman13.

[QUOTE=Dcrist0527;2592768] I am almost completely ignorant of the culture and I do not want to be one of those guys.[/QUOTE]Hey, why not? Pattaya is full of "those guys. " You'll not lack for company! LOL (they really need better emojis).

Having been to all SEA countries, except Brunei and, believe it or not, The Philippines, I can tell you that Thailand has the largest point-and-shoot P4 P scene. But there are caveats. The Bangkok scene, if you're into Bar Girls, is as expensive as Tijuana. Far more if you factor in travel expense. $5 beer, $100 - $125 for the girl "short time," which used to be several hours and is now often an hour or two. Pattaya is noticeably less expensive, but after a few times you may get very tired of the non-stop sleaze, as well as the weirdos who seem to populate every corner of the town. The French ped*philes, the British yobbos, the obese Germans, the nice but distinctly strange Swedes. All seem to gravitate to Pattaya.

There has been a rapid change in Thai demographics, as well as a distinct change in the tourists. The Thai population is aging rapidly. Fewer kids means fewer bar girls. For many years, pre-Covid, the economy was booming, the unemployment rate was microscopic, and salaries rose a lot as a consequence. These days no girl *has* to work in a bar. They can live, albeit modestly, on a secretary's (or whatever) salary. This was not the case 20-odd years ago. So, a LOT of the bar girls are damaged merchandise. The tourists have changed from those with a "travel" mindset to "box checking tourist" types. OK. Seen Grand Palace. Check. Saw Soi Cowboy and banged bar girl. Check. Saw what Po. Check. Tomorrow it's off to Chiang Mai.

If you truly want to learn the culture, the best way is to sacrifice some beauty and age for service and experience. It's still not difficult to hook up with a beer bar girl, or a freelancer, and bye-tee-oh. "Wander around. " She'll take you upcountry to see stuff you'll not see on farang tours. You'll eat stuff you'll never find in a US Thai restaurant. And you'll still get plenty of boom-boom. Of course, some guys will swoon at the thought of not having nightly turn-down service and a mint on their pillow when staying in a local-oriented hotel. If you're that guy, it's best to stay home. If you're not, follow my advice. Check out the bars, just to see. Then get the hell out of the bar areas and experience the real Thailand. Or Vietnam. Or Cambodia. You can thank me later.

[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2593043]Don't worry man, just don't fall in love. You'll hear "hey sexy man" and be pulled into bars by 90 lbs. Bar girls. They are so hospitable too. They have pros that have worked for ages, but others you find can blow you away. I met one that I spent significant time with on and off for 3 years. My first trip we clicked on first meeting and later she took me on her motorbike to all the sights so kind of a tour guide. We had a blast and even took her to Siem Reap.

Something to try before you leave this Earth. Pattaya for nightlife and Phuket for the all day boat trips to the islands. Such a beautiful country and people, land of smiles. I'm sure we have members on this board that probably do different things, but they have BJ bars, Devils Den that offers threesomes and van rides from airport with your chosen ladies, soapy massages, good food, tourist sights, etc. Definitely recommend it! I try to be honest with the bar girls and she knew I was in a relationship so no promises, but fun times, then I guess she caught feelings and cut it off. Nothing like waking up to a BBBJ every morning and fresh fruits and food. It was a decade ago so younger and sure I worked the bar girls out. I only took short 1 week trips as it was mini vacation from the war zone.[/QUOTE]No need to be intimidated. Bankkok and the other Sexpat places KB mentioned are SOO setup for tourism. You do not need to know any Thai language. You do not need to look over your shoulder and be a little cautious walking around the streets like you do in Tijuana a bit. You can stay at places for very inexpensive. Transportation is DAM Easy. Some bar girls can be a "bit" aggressive but you always have the power in these conversations and can nicely say no thank you. Sometimes a few times so they get the message. Always with a smile and on your face. And many of the bars the girls are not aggressive and you are initiator of asking a girl for a drink etc. Just go into a few bars saying your going to just take them in. Don't jump at the first pretty girl. They are not going anywhere. SEA really is the best of the best. Can't wait for it to open again. I love that we have Tijuana don't get me wrong. Just noting there are big differences.

I did the same as KBeens and had a girl that I got together with several times over a few years going back to Thailand. Very special girl. She invited me to her province to visit her home town and I felt bad for saying no thank you but in the long run it was probably for the best as I probably would have gotten more attached.

Do some good planning before where you make copies of passport, extra credit card. Money in different locations. Just assume the worst (which rarely happens). Like you loose your wallet. Or your ATM card doesn't work (which I have Never had happen). Just have plan "b's" for everything and it will give you more comfort knowing things won't crash to bad.

My worst experience was a bar girl "claimed" I have bought her a drink when I had not and I had spent ALL of my money on girls (I had more money back at the hotel) The ATM had given me all I could take out for the day. So I put myself in shitty position where the bar manager (who probably knew it was bull shit) and I didn't order the girl a drink. I finally just said it would get the money and come back and pay. Technically she could have called the police I guess and made a stink over it but she did not. I actually went back the next night and not only paid for the drink but gave the bar manager a tip. All of this could have been avoided if I just kept some "security" money on me and realize of the 90% of the honest girls in the bar. There are probably a couple who will fuck you over given the opportunity. P.S. This bar did not take credit cards.

Also I personally won't go into bars where they are too aggressive to get me in or if there is not anyone else in the bar etc. (stay in the busier bars or the ones you read about on the forum).

G.

[QUOTE=Gregyyr;2593095]My worst experience was a bar girl "claimed" I have bought her a drink when I had not and I had spent ALL of my money on girls (I had more money back at the hotel) The ATM had given me all I could take out for the day. So I put myself in shitty position where the bar manager (who probably knew it was bull shit) and I didn't order the girl a drink. I finally just said it would get the money and come back and pay. Technically she could have called the police I guess and made a stink over it but she did not. I actually went back the next night and not only paid for the drink but gave the bar manager a tip.[/QUOTE]If you don't have money to pay at a restaurant, you have to wash dishes.

If you don't have money to pay at a blowjob bar, well, I hope you don't have any canker sores.

[QUOTE=Gregyyr;2593095]No need to be intimidated. Bankkok and the other Sexpat places KB mentioned are SOO setup for tourism. You do not need to know any Thai language. You do not need to look over your shoulder and be a little cautious walking around the streets like you do in Tijuana a bit. You can stay at places for very inexpensive. Transportation is DAM Easy. Some bar girls can be a "bit" aggressive but you always have the power in these conversations and can nicely say no thank you. Sometimes a few times so they get the message. Always with a smile and on your face. And many of the bars the girls are not aggressive and you are initiator of asking a girl for a drink etc. Just go into a few bars saying your going to just take them in. Don't jump at the first pretty girl. They are not going anywhere. SEA really is the best of the best. Can't wait for it to open again. I love that we have Tijuana don't get me wrong. Just noting there are big differences.

I did the same as KBeens and had a girl that I got together with several times over a few years going back to Thailand. Very special girl. She invited me to her province to visit her home town and I felt bad for saying no thank you but in the long run it was probably for the best as I probably would have gotten more attached..[/QUOTE]Big thank you to Greggyr, KB, and Phordphan. Very reassuring and I'm definitely going to look into it. The travel time might be the biggest drawback. But sounds like a can't miss experience.

I was in Tijuana twice earlier this month, both times staying on Monday and Tuesday nights (not only because I am cheap, but also because I had work in California from Wednesday to Saturday). I was in Tijuana on Aug. 2 to 4, and on Aug. 9 to 11. I only hung out at the HKC and Hotel Cascadas, didn't really have the time or urge to go to other clubs. I really lucked out using the same VIP Card on two trips. My room per night was only $20, and they were nice rooms. I also downloaded coupons from the HKC website and used them, especially the "2 beers & an appetizer free on Mondays & Tuesdays" which I used every day (printed 4 copies). The VIP Card also entitled me to a beer every 12 hours. I am not a heavy drinker so that's already a lot of beer.

I last visited HKC 8-10 years ago so my memory of the place was very vague. So here's my two cents:

WOW, if Mondays and Tuesdays are slow, boring nights, I don't want to come on weekends when it's packed and the men-to-girls ratio is not in our favor. There were about 50-60 girls every night I was there. Almost all of them were at least a 7. Some were 7's in looks (face) and 8's-9's in body, others were 9's in looks and 7's in body. Only a very few were gorditas. All the girls I interacted with had great attitudes. A couple rushed their fichas and I let them go.

I only sessioned with 6 girls through both stays but it was my choice. I was contented. All the girls asked for $100. None were pushy. Two of the girls were extremely pretty and hot but I had a feeling that they will not be very GFE. But I wanted them, so I told them $80 and $20 tip if they were good. Sure enough they didn't get their tip (both set timers in their phone) but nevertheless thanked me when they left my room. Are they instructed to do that by Club Management? As for the other 4 girls, I had good vibes with them so I counter-offered with $150 for 45 minutes and BBBJ. Two gave me CIM, one even swallowed! None of them were clock-watchers.

More reports to follow.

Funman13.

[QUOTE=FunMan13;2593177]I was in Tijuana twice earlier this month, both times staying on Monday and Tuesday nights (not only because I am cheap, but also because I had work in California from Wednesday to Saturday). I was in Tijuana on Aug. 2 to 4, and on Aug. 9 to 11. I only hung out at the HKC and Hotel Cascadas, didn't really have the time or urge to go to other clubs. I really lucked out using the same VIP Card on two trips. My room per night was only $20, and they were nice rooms. I also downloaded coupons from the HKC website and used them, especially the "2 beers & an appetizer free on Mondays & Tuesdays" which I used every day (printed 4 copies). The VIP Card also entitled me to a beer every 12 hours. I am not a heavy drinker so that's already a lot of beer.

I last visited HKC 8-10 years ago so my memory of the place was very vague. So here's my two cents:

WOW, if Mondays and Tuesdays are slow, boring nights, I don't want to come on weekends when it's packed and the men-to-girls ratio is not in our favor. There were about 50-60 girls every night I was there. Almost all of them were at least a 7. Some were 7's in looks (face) and 8's-9's in body, others were 9's in looks and 7's in body. Only a very few were gorditas. All the girls I interacted with had great attitudes. A couple rushed their fichas and I let them go.

I only sessioned with 6 girls through both stays but it was my choice. I was contented. All the girls asked for $100. None were pushy. Two of the girls were extremely pretty and hot but I had a feeling that they will not be very GFE. But I wanted them, so I told them $80 and $20 tip if they were good. Sure enough they didn't get their tip (both set timers in their phone) but nevertheless thanked me when they left my room. Are they instructed to do that by Club Management? As for the other 4 girls, I had good vibes with them so I counter-offered with $150 for 45 minutes and BBBJ. Two gave me CIM, one even swallowed! None of them were clock-watchers.

More reports to follow.

Funman13.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing the report! I am also a Sun-Tues type of guy due to work, value type dude, and also guy to girl ratio. Most of the hot chicas already seem to be taken by the time I get to the clubs on the weekends. Didn't know about the beer every 12 hours and may try the coupons, but Azuls food isn't too tasty for my palate. Also prefer to get the higher end rooms to really get the use out of the VIP card. I've never experienced a lady setting a timer, but the clean up guys are always on time knocking on the door, which I've had to give $20 for extra time if you vibe with the chica. I guess that is the perk of having your own room. For $150 you could have tried for an hour, but as long as you had a good time and found value for your dollar. Definitely the best deal in town, as SoCal escorts / providers are really hit or miss and don't know what you're walking into unless it is an AMP or agency.

[QUOTE=Dogers69;2592371]This is a good way to put it. Well, I think I the selection at hk is better than this sounds on Monday Tuesday but you may need to walk around more approach girls on their phone especially go into chavelas. I'm someone whose attracted to every girl not more than 15 pounds over weight but in my personal opinion I don't see the 9's 10's others see in hk. When I do it's rare. I'm also old enough that any girl that looks good age won't matter in hk. While a 25 year old dude may not even be interested in a 30 year old woman. I still think I see more 9's 10's all day long in San Diego than in hk. That includes Mexican woman at the outlets malls.

I.[/QUOTE]I agree with this I don't have a problem with most of the women there since I am almost 50 and any chick not 10-15 pounds over in their 20's and 30's I'm good to go. I'll be moving to San Diego next June I'll be a Sun-Tues monger.

Funman did it right in HK getting free drink vouchers with VIP card and coupons. No other clubs in the world give out free drinks 2 nights every week and 70% discount on rooms for VIPs. These deals are very good values and HK is a very generous club. Some will knock it but HK management treats clients, bar girls and workers fairly and well to create a relaxed, fun, sexy, exciting venue. That's why HK attracts the hottest girls and the most clients, doing big business while other Tijuana bars cannot. All noobs I brought to Tijuana would walk around other bars and quickly want to return to HK.

Most new girls start work in HK with no English, but the younger and smarter ones pick up quickly and can be fun and sexy flirting, conversing with guys. They learn to say sweetly "Thank you for your drinks," Thank you for your session. " ect. HK girls are far more appealing and attractive with their limited Ingles than some of the most beautiful girls with no communication I sat next to in China and other parts of the world.

I tried to talk to managers to train meseros to conduct themselves with grace and treat clients with proper regards. They have improved a lot in the last few years.

I really don't want to get robbed or stabbed so I visited on a random Tuesday during the day.

Pros

+Place was poppin'. About 40 women, including 2-3 10s for a Tuesday day shift
+The women are hella slutty, I was in the club for less than a minute and 3 different women grabbed my dick as I was walking around
+If you like being handsy the atmosphere is very permissive for such activities, while I'm sitting women just come up to me and take my hands and put them on her naked breasts or vag.

Cons

-"Hey where's my tip bro" from every bartender, waiter, security guy, room cleaning guy, robe guy, bus boy
-I think the place is too big. lots of corners for women to hide in and play with their phones.
-A smaller venue with like 10-15 girls, you can count on women coming up to you, here you are just sitting and hoping the one you like makes her way over and and that she doesn't get snagged by one of the other dozens of guys. you can also try going up to her; however I usually find that I get better service if she picks you rather than the other way around
-Club lighting is very favorable for the women - a chica who I thought was an 8 in a dress in club lighting became probably a 6 with room lighting and when her dress came off
-Actual service - I'm sure this varies from girl to girl. I tried going in with the knowledge of discussing beforehand but it doesn't really work in a loud club where she doesn't speak English. so for example we agreed to kissing but then in the room it was close mouthed pecks rather than tongue wrestling. the service I got was not good but probably if you speak Spanish it can be great.

In all I spent 180 (100 bang + 20 self drinks + 20 chica drinks+ 20 for whatever the heck a VIP dance is + 20 room). Honestly the hassle of being asked to tip everyone makes this place overrated. Cool place to just relax and have a beer but I have better experiences hiring escorts.