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[QUOTE=MrHo;2315034]They usually say they work in restaurant or even company in Germany.
It is odd to think once upon a time not so long ago, these girls were the star of their little town where all guys in town were looking up to her like a prom queen.
The reality is if these guys come over to Germany, it only cost 50 euro to make them suck your dick among other things, but 50 euro is a lot of money in rural Romania I guess.
Mongering is bit like arbitrage, it cost us such a small effort and small amount of money to fuck these girls and most of them eventually will marry some innocent joe somewhere.[/QUOTE]Haha. Good points. However, that "innocent Joe" may not be so innocent. For all she knows, he is fucking a bunch of FKK girls on the side, and getting it for free from the retired FKK girl at home.
This is the cycle of life dance. Everyone is equally guilty.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2315034]They usually say they work in restaurant or even company in Germany.[/QUOTE]However they always find a way to get an 'annual leave' for 2 months in summer and another 15 days or so in Christmas and Easter. What a good employer! LOL.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2315034]They usually say they work in restaurant or even company in Germany.
It is odd to think once upon a time not so long ago, these girls were the star of their little town where all guys in town were looking up to her like a prom queen.
The reality is if these guys come over to Germany, it only cost 50 euro to make them suck your dick among other things, but 50 euro is a lot of money in rural Romania I guess.
Mongering is bit like arbitrage, it cost us such a small effort and small amount of money to fuck these girls and most of them eventually will marry some innocent joe somewhere.[/QUOTE]50 is some money in Romania, not a huge amount. More than in Germany, for sure. But over time, those 50's add up. In a couple of years, some girls can buy cars and condos.
It is 50 for 30 minutes, or 20/25 if they cheat on time. And with extras it can be 100 for 25 min. Or even 200 e for 25 min if a man takes anal and CIM. Of course some easy pushover men also pay extra money for kissing or licking, and bare back head.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2314945]I can't think family don't think about how come so fast so big money. With internet, easy to know FKK land is Romania prostitution land and I m so happy about this because some Romanian girls are made for love in bed. When I find one pretty for me, I will make her be my GF in bed. Once more for my last one, after our 2 first rooms on our discovery, she said: After you I can't work, like some others said before, but on this Friday when she started, when she saw me, she came straight to me and asked: Were you in room today? One more who doesn't want I go with other girls, and she said: I come to you after smoking. At the end of our room, she asked: We repeat later? They may be blond or brunette, I m pretty sure they appreciate to feel woman rather than just being a piece of meat most of time. Some even seem to appreciate to get orgasmus. But families prefer only to take money given and not ask where it come from.[/QUOTE]Yes, but the reality is that she is a prostitute doing her job LOL!
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[QUOTE=Thanos2019;2315223]50 is some money in Romania, not a huge amount. More than in Germany, for sure. But over time, those 50's add up. In a couple of years, some girls can buy cars and condos.
It is 50 for 30 minutes, or 20/25 if they cheat on time. And with extras it can be 100 for 25 min. Or even 200 e for 25 min if a man takes anal and CIM. Of course some easy pushover men also pay extra money for kissing or licking, and bare back head.[/QUOTE]I often hear in FKK from girls I become friend within FKK that I want to go 1000 euro today, so I guess in some good night, they make 1000 euro or even more, so I guess yes, it does add up.
Whats so amusing to me is that I am so surprise how much these girls jaws can take blowing so many dicks one after another everyday, and how much these girls pussy can take getting pounded everyday, and also their strong mental to deal with so many mongers from all over world with many different age range and personalities.
Women are strong being.
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2315200]Haha. Good points. However, that "innocent Joe" may not be so innocent. For all she knows, he is fucking a bunch of FKK girls on the side, and getting it for free from the retired FKK girl at home.
This is the cycle of life dance. Everyone is equally guilty.[/QUOTE]So that make us monger 50 euro riders LOL!
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[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2315203]However they always find a way to get an 'annual leave' for 2 months in summer and another 15 days or so in Christmas and Easter. What a good employer! LOL.[/QUOTE]Vice versa, if a monger is lucky we sometimes meet girls who only work in FKK for summer, there used to be quite few of those best ones during summer in Artemis, but now. Such cases are becoming less and less and more pro looking girls at clubs. I am not into tattoos and plastic surgeries etc. So miss old days.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2315185]Some lucky Romanian guys got these girls virgin before us, made them pregnant, but they were so low level with women and also in bed, when you see Romanian girls knowledge about sexuality, nearly zero, they were not able to take care of a woman, too lazy to work, leaving their girlfriend or wife when she was pregnant or even with baby, this is Romanian guys. I also wonder why many German girls choose Turkish or Albanians rather than a normal German guy? Some German girls answered me.[/QUOTE]Yeah these Romanian guys had to try more than us to get her too, as for virgin pussies, they were lucky yes. But we monger try less with these girls, all we got to say to them is to the room then it is 50 euro per 30 min, isn't it so easy for us LOL!
I prefer to the room and 50 euro then bye bye style more LOL.
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2315168]Yes that would be my reaction as well. But perhaps they have a different view of sex culturally as a society? Also, I never heard that any of these parents actively encouraged their daughters to go into this line of work. But they do close their eyes and ears and probably prefer not to imagine what their baby is doing for money.
I also spoke to many girls who seem very casual about sex. Some of them come from reasonably good backgrounds but came over to Germany because they wanted to buy expensive phones and Louis Vuitton goodies. For those girls, fucking a stranger does not seem to be a big deal.
And the other thing girls say is that many of them hide how much they make from their parents. So, she will tell them that she is making just 1500 Euro a month when in reality she is making 8000 a month. That is one way from preventing any suspicions on the part of their parents.[/QUOTE]My observations are exactly same as yours on all of the above!
Yes, most of these girls are very very casual about sex. For example, one Economics graduate wanted to actually be my girlfriend but still wanted to continue to work in FKK! Another Nurse right now has a serious real boyfriend (not pimp or wannabe loverboy) but still wants to fuck me LOL. On the bigger picture, most of the European girls are not so fussy about fucking someone they just met as long as she likes the guy, very different mindset than most of the Americans or folks from some other parts of the world (except for pornstars and the likes). Same reason they have no ethical problem in bringing their own close friends, cousins or even sibling sisters to this FKK or any sex business. Making some cash along the way is obviously a great benefit, particularly if she is from a financially needy background.
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2315168]Yes that would be my reaction as well. But perhaps they have a different view of sex culturally as a society? Also, I never heard that any of these parents actively encouraged their daughters to go into this line of work. But they do close their eyes and ears and probably prefer not to imagine what their baby is doing for money.
I also spoke to many girls who seem very casual about sex. Some of them come from reasonably good backgrounds but came over to Germany because they wanted to buy expensive phones and Louis Vuitton goodies. For those girls, fucking a stranger does not seem to be a big deal.
And the other thing girls say is that many of them hide how much they make from their parents. So, she will tell them that she is making just 1500 Euro a month when in reality she is making 8000 a month. That is one way from preventing any suspicions on the part of their parents.[/QUOTE]Of course they have to say that they make much less, I don't think they are so stupid to tell them they earn 10,000 by working in a restaurant unless. They own it. LOL.
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[QUOTE=Sirioja;2315185]Some lucky Romanian guys got these girls virgin before us, made them pregnant, but they were so low level with women and also in bed, when you see Romanian girls knowledge about sexuality, nearly zero, they were not able to take care of a woman, too lazy to work, leaving their girlfriend or wife when she was pregnant or even with baby, this is Romanian guys. I also wonder why many German girls choose Turkish or Albanians rather than a normal German guy? Some German girls answered me.[/QUOTE]Siri,
I don't think the story is so 'painful' for the girls. You make it sound like they were disappointed from their Romanian lover and decided to come to FKK to find real love LOL.
Sexuality is something missing in FKK land anyway and for many reasons. The main reason is that the girls make business and not love. They do everything in robotic style and most of them hate what they are doing. There is no feeling. It is their own decision however because the money is sweet so I don't think they are so innocent and poor. Customers are there for pleasure and girls are for money.
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[QUOTE=Gino02;2315298]My observations are exactly same as yours on all of the above!
Yes, most of these girls are very very casual about sex. For example, one Economics graduate wanted to actually be my girlfriend but still wanted to continue to work in FKK! Another Nurse right now has a serious real boyfriend (not pimp or wannabe loverboy) but still wants to fuck me LOL. On the bigger picture, most of the European girls are not so fussy about fucking someone they just met as long as she likes the guy, very different mindset than most of the Americans or folks from some other parts of the world (except for pornstars and the likes). Same reason they have no ethical problem in bringing their own close friends, cousins or even sibling sisters to this FKK or any sex business. Making some cash along the way is obviously a great benefit, particularly if she is from a financially needy background.[/QUOTE]Excellent post, you opened my mind, thank you very much.
I was always wondering how different their mindset is from mine and how ethics means completely nothing at all to them.
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[QUOTE=MrHo;2315225]Yes, but the reality is that she is a prostitute doing her job LOL![/QUOTE]Yes, but they do their job in different way according to who you are. This last one can be very different: show girl in lounge, even not anymore with me, and sensual in bed, and I know now she wants pleasure when she is used to fast rooms with others. I'm interested by girls who are able to give dreams, I m happy to pay for this, I m not interested by pieces of meat even pretty, or prostitute behavior like kissing everybody or rubbing in public, because no charm, no dream, so no pleasure, not women for me. If I want reality, then I accept when they ask me to meet outside or to go to Romania, but I prefer FKK dreams when I succeed to find one, stay in FKK. Some of my real girlfriends were married before, but they were not prostitute.
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[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2315187]Yes it is an arbitrage but for the girls not for the customers. They are taking advantage of the price difference in two different markets offering the same service. They would never get the money they get for the service they provide in their country. Same counts if they left Germany and went to Dubai receiving 500 euro per hour for the same service.[/QUOTE]The cost of living and doing business varies greatly for WGs between countries. In Germany, the average cost per month. This is without considering cost to pay protection, manager or pimp. I know a couple ladies who went to Dubai last year. Both claimed that just as they were preparing to leave the country, the police raided the establishment they used to meet men. They were singled out and forced to surrender a large portion of their money or face jail time. Of course, they neither paid the weekly protection cost or received any documentation for the cash surrendered. Were they real police? These ladies will never know for sure but the risk of jail time in Dubai is real and who wants to gamble that in that Dubai. All told, the business is established similar to a casino, the house or manager always wins in the end.
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[QUOTE=Chongmal;2315478]The cost of living and doing business varies greatly for WGs between countries. In Germany, the average cost per month. This is without considering cost to pay protection, manager or pimp. I know a couple ladies who went to Dubai last year. Both claimed that just as they were preparing to leave the country, the police raided the establishment they used to meet men. They were singled out and forced to surrender a large portion of their money or face jail time. Of course, they neither paid the weekly protection cost or received any documentation for the cash surrendered. Were they real police? These ladies will never know for sure but the risk of jail time in Dubai is real and who wants to gamble that in that Dubai. All told, the business is established similar to a casino, the house or manager always wins in the end.[/QUOTE]Even worse, couple of aspiring FKK experienced Romanian girls were gangbanged BBFS (basically gang raped) by more than 20 Arab guys in Dubai in a penthouse "party" all night held up against their will by big security guys, got paid nothing, while this evening was supposed to be a high-end party with some royal emirates and girls were supposed to be paid 5000 e per person for few discreet private fucks. So there goes their hope for 500-1000 e per hour work in Dubai. Obviously they couldn't report to authorities there. This was circa 2016. Some older girls in Sharks probably still remember this sad history.
I knew an American hot blonde stripper/hooker who was lured into a visit to Japan for much more fast money in that same business. Once she arrived in Japan, the pimp took her passport away (obviously giving some "nice" safety reason to start with) and then forced her to perform full-on public sex (BBBJ with CIM and swallow, BBFS with CIP, gangbang etc.) on stage with one after another male customers in a row in an underground club in Tokyo that is visited by some politically powerful people, with only food and shelter given to her and no payment. This went on for months, eventually she managed to run away from this hostage situation and to the US Embassy to get rescued and to back to home.
I haven't heard of such horror stories happening in Austria, Germany or Switzerland, yet. Probably because it's legal to run brothels in these countries, so girls don't have to go to the illegal establishments to sell sex. But obviously girls who are too greedy still might want to explore other more lucrative countries/options, and occasionally gets burned, sadly.