FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

Just a minor point: The 25 EUR the girls are paying at Sharks or other clubs are nothing but a down payment on their tax, it is not THE tax.

HB.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031158]Just a minor point: The 25 EUR the girls are paying at Sharks or other clubs are nothing but a down payment on their tax, it is not THE tax.

HB.[/QUOTE]Theoretical you are right with this but in 100% practice over the last maybe 20 years it is the tax bc. No Romanian girl I have known makes a German tax declaration and the German tax authorities have accepted this therefore I would call it an established right.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2031158]Just a minor point: The 25 EUR the girls are paying at Sharks or other clubs are nothing but a down payment on their tax, it is not THE tax.

HB.[/QUOTE]So how does Sharks calculate THE tax then? Does it depend on the number of rooms a particular girl does?

Edit: I overlooked Caiova's post. So it's a bit like a flat rate Quellensteuer, that can be subtracted again if/when a girl does a proper German tax return?

Harry. Correct. Once they become registered in accordance with the new law, it is more likely the authorities will require a tax return. Can't see that fitting in with the lifestyle of many workers.

Craiova. You are basically right but sometimes after raids in NRW girls have, as Badin reports, been summoned to the tax office to negotiate their unpaid tax. One girl (a wily high earner) told me the tax people had been very very reasonable.As Badin says, it doesn't seem to happen in Hessen

[QUOTE=Jon75;2030902]I've got pretty much the same tastes as you. Do you know which club is best to find those curvy MILF beauties? There is this very tall curvy Lithuanian blonde at Sharks, I forgot her name but she really turned me on when I first saw her and her service was top notch. I might go there again next week to see her. I actually knew a Latvian escort in London back in the day which matches your description pretty much, she left the UK a few years ago but told me she was going to Germany every now and then.[/QUOTE]Can't really help you since unfortunately I'm not a regular in the FKK scene.

I travel to Germany once or twice every year and just try to make the best of it.

Since you're visiting sooner than me please report back with your findings of girls with the right junk in all the right places [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PCkvCPvDXk[/URL].

[QUOTE=Jon75;2030902] There is this very tall curvy Lithuanian blonde at Sharks, I forgot her name but she really turned me on when I first saw her and her service was top notch. I might go there again next week to see her.[/QUOTE]That's MILF (already 40 yo but looks younger) Karina. She's still at Sharks and top notch service but out of my age and dress size range.

Other recommendation on this curvy MILF type girls at Sharks is Cz Hannah (maybe 35 yo and very curvy). Also at least same top notch service like Karina and Hannah is able to give a real DT.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2031193]Harry. Correct. Once they become registered in accordance with the new law, it is more likely the authorities will require a tax return. Can't see that fitting in with the lifestyle of many workers.

Craiova. You are basically right but sometimes after raids in NRW girls have, as Badin reports, been summoned to the tax office to negotiate their unpaid tax. One girl (a wily high earner) told me the tax people had been very very reasonable.As Badin says, it doesn't seem to happen in Hessen[/QUOTE]Well, I'm sure the flat tax in clubs was a solution to WG earnings being cash, and it cannot be tracked unless significant transfers show electronically. Since for club girls, requiring tax payment as part of entry is unavoidable.

If the flat tax is paid as part of entry by girls, how do the authorities figure out the unpaid tax?

Who knows what girls makes tax declarations? And if so, the declarations to be reliable as earnings are in cash.

For Germans, they can have another job, and work part time not declare beyond the flat rate, as it's cash.

With the new law, how will the taxing change? How will they take account of the cash earnings per girl?

In the NRW, they have girls sign in a list, and write down start and end time of sessions. In Hessen I haven't seen that. Is this how they figures it out?

[QUOTE=Craiova;2031213]That's MILF (already 40 yo but looks younger) Karina. She's still at Sharks and top notch service but out of my age and dress size range.

Other recommendation on this curvy MILF type girls at Sharks is Cz Hannah (maybe 35 yo and very curvy). Also at least same top notch service like Karina and Hannah is able to give a real DT.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your help to the curvy seeking cause.

For all cock-bloggers here: tax is more sexy than sex?

Please don't forget: the state robs this money from you and then some lousy actors, sometimes called politicians, distribute that money again according to their narrow state of consciousness and political party guidelines. Telling you that they do the best for their country, and themselves of course.

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2031238]
If the flat tax is paid as part of entry by girls, how do the authorities figure out the unpaid tax?
[/QUOTE]They probably don't, that's the whole joke.

The way I understand it, basically those E25 are an advance that the club will pay to the tax office for a particular girl, and then that particular girl will have to complete a German tax return where they will subtract E25 from the total as it's already paid.

But if a girl does is not registered in Germany, does not have a car registered in Germany, no telephone, no rent, no health insurance, nothing in Germany, then of course it becomes next to impossible for the German tax office to find out where this girl is and how much she has earned.

This is the whole point that I was trying to get at when people were lobbying for a pay rise to E60. It's a joke what these girls pay in taxes when compared to the ordinary person (and her clients!) in the street, and in addition to me being being very libertarian (= in favor of low taxes & small government), I also think that these girls have very little to complain about when it comes to giving a decent level of service for E50/ half hour.

Of course this will all change after 1 July, so IMHO I think the consequences of this new law will be really far reaching for the level of service, prices and also the number of girls that will want to work for 2 pimps simultaneously. Sorry everybody for off topic, maybe we can have this moved to General Info?

P.S. Health insurance coverage they can get in Romania (and probably a lot cheaper than in Germany), complimented by an EU-wide travel insurance also costs very little to cover them when in Germany. This should work fine, as long as they don't stay for more than 45 days abroad.

[QUOTE=Nick The G;2031260]For all cock-bloggers here: tax is more sexy than sex?

Please don't forget: the state robs this money from you and then some lousy actors, sometimes called politicians, distribute that money again according to their narrow state of consciousness and political party guidelines. Telling you that they do the best for their country, and themselves of course.[/QUOTE]Yup, so with the next government probably being a bunch of socialists teamed up with the Green Khmer tree-huggers, just imagine how they can (and will!) have a field day when it comes to regulating and taxing this whole industry to destruction. Remember, the multicultural socialist Utopia is expensive, and with a few million extra mouths to feed, the future German (and European) government will need every cent it can squeeze out of the citizens.

[QUOTE=NickTheG;2030980]The romanian Annabelle (long dark hair) and the sisters Elif and Amalia are back in town.
And yes, Diana is back too.[/QUOTE]Great to hear. I hope the sisters stick around until the last week of June, when I'll be there.

Although I'd be willing to bet that the most popular girls will all converge on the big clubs that week, as a sort of last hurrah before the law change. But that's the optimist in me.

MCP.

Not sure how much truth there is to this statement on the Zurich thread, but will point it out.

One punter claims in Globe, where the rate is 120 per half, he doesn't have chances with some girls because the girls go for long rooms (2 hrs stated) of known clients. Globe is known for DFK as requirement and if this is true, it's a way to maximize their earnings. It's the nature of the work, and depends on the environment.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2031088]In Hessen, girls pay 25 for tax, included in their entry, and 20 to sleep.

In NRW, no tax included in girls entry, and Romanian girls don t want to be registered there.
[/QUOTE]So, is it taken account by sign in sheets? Craiova mentioned Dusseldorf model.

How is Sharks, Dusseldorf model?

[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2031273]Not sure how much truth there is to this statement on the Zurich thread, but will point it out.

One punter claims in Globe, where the rate is 120 per half, he doesn't have chances with some girls because the girls go for long rooms (2 hrs stated) of known clients. Globe is known for DFK as requirement and if this is true, it's a way to maximize their earnings. It's the nature of the work, and depends on the environment.[/QUOTE]No girl will go with him for 120, because Globe rate is 140/30 mn.

I had 150 € rooms with Megan, now I will have 280 € rooms.

Minimum monthly Swiss salary is 4200 €.

Don't believe all what is written, or said in brothels.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2031213]That's MILF (already 40 yo but looks younger) Karina. She's still at Sharks and top notch service but out of my age and dress size range.

Other recommendation on this curvy MILF type girls at Sharks is Cz Hannah (maybe 35 yo and very curvy). Also at least same top notch service like Karina and Hannah is able to give a real DT.[/QUOTE]Where can I find Hannah and Karina? And which days can I find them?