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[QUOTE=Gino02;2315540]Even worse, couple of aspiring FKK experienced Romanian girls were gangbanged BBFS (basically gang raped) by more than 20 Arab guys in Dubai in a penthouse "party" all night held up against their will by big security guys, got paid nothing, while this evening was supposed to be a high-end party with some royal emirates and girls were supposed to be paid 5000 e per person for few discreet private fucks. So there goes their hope for 500-1000 e per hour work in Dubai. Obviously they couldn't report to authorities there. This was circa 2016. Some older girls in Sharks probably still remember this sad history.

I knew an American hot blonde stripper/hooker who was lured into a visit to Japan for much more fast money in that same business. Once she arrived in Japan, the pimp took her passport away (obviously giving some "nice" safety reason to start with) and then forced her to perform full-on public sex (BBBJ with CIM and swallow, BBFS with CIP, gangbang etc.) on stage with one after another male customers in a row in an underground club in Tokyo that is visited by some politically powerful people, with only food and shelter given to her and no payment. This went on for months, eventually she managed to run away from this hostage situation and to the US Embassy to get rescued and to back to home.

I haven't heard of such horror stories happening in Austria, Germany or Switzerland, yet. Probably because it's legal to run brothels in these countries, so girls don't have to go to the illegal establishments to sell sex. But obviously girls who are too greedy still might want to explore other more lucrative countries/options, and occasionally gets burned, sadly.[/QUOTE]Good points. The security situation in Western Europe simply can't be compared to any other place on earth, barring US and Canada and AusNZ. Girls for sure take their life in their hands when they travel for these quick buck schemes. In a place like Dubai, they are at severe risk of physical punishment and worse if they upset any loc powerful honcho.

To a smaller extent, the same is true for punters. In a FKK, a man can focus on pursuit of happiness any which way he wants without worrying about life and liberty.

[QUOTE=Pksimar69;2315324]Siri,

I don't think the story is so 'painful' for the girls. You make it sound like they were disappointed from their Romanian lover and decided to come to FKK to find real love LOL.

Sexuality is something missing in FKK land anyway and for many reasons. The main reason is that the girls make business and not love. They do everything in robotic style and most of them hate what they are doing. There is no feeling. It is their own decision however because the money is sweet so I don't think they are so innocent and poor. Customers are there for pleasure and girls are for money.[/QUOTE]Many girls are coming to FKK land to make money for their child when father ran away. Usually, little mum are higher level, because they know better their body, and they seem to appreciate to be treated as women, when they most often say: this is better for her, he ran away. But when they are fucked whole day, baby is with granny.

Yes money business, but a bit of dream is more enjoyable for me than just emptying balls between 2 legs, or in mouth, but each one own pleasure. Most enjoyable for me is to touch the woman part, just sex is boring with girls with very limited level about sexuality, they didn't learn much when being fucked at home.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2315540]Even worse, couple of aspiring FKK experienced Romanian girls were gangbanged BBFS (basically gang raped) by more than 20 Arab guys in Dubai in a penthouse "party" all night held up against their will by big security guys, got paid nothing, while this evening was supposed to be a high-end party with some royal emirates and girls were supposed to be paid 5000 e per person for few discreet private fucks. So there goes their hope for 500-1000 e per hour work in Dubai. Obviously they couldn't report to authorities there. This was circa 2016. Some older girls in Sharks probably still remember this sad history.

I knew an American hot blonde stripper/hooker who was lured into a visit to Japan for much more fast money in that same business. Once she arrived in Japan, the pimp took her passport away (obviously giving some "nice" safety reason to start with) and then forced her to perform full-on public sex (BBBJ with CIM and swallow, BBFS with CIP, gangbang etc.) on stage with one after another male customers in a row in an underground club in Tokyo that is visited by some politically powerful people, with only food and shelter given to her and no payment. This went on for months, eventually she managed to run away from this hostage situation and to the US Embassy to get rescued and to back to home..[/QUOTE]In Japan that happened? You know it is one of the safest country in the whole world and I don't know where you read that, but if that happened and she went into US embassy for rescue, it will be huge scandal which will be used against Japan for trade talk by US government and used also for other political attack simply because Japan is only non white G7 country and because of that Japan is always under attacks.

However, these event do happen in similar scale in porn industry in Japan in lower end of the industry, where some young more naive girls are lured into porn industry saying it is bikini shooting etc. , but in reality it is porn and only find out once they walk into shooting, but they do leave foreign girls in this case also simply because they can do this to Japanese girls and they could get away with it till 1990's, but not to foreigners. This foreigners mostly are white foreigners only, similar things happen to many Filipina and other Asian girls. It is Yakuza related, but after 90's they cannot do this anymore due to tightening of new law against Yakuza.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2315364]Yes, but they do their job in different way according to who you are. This last one can be very different: show girl in lounge, even not anymore with me, and sensual in bed, and I know now she wants pleasure when she is used to fast rooms with others. I'm interested by girls who are able to give dreams, I m happy to pay for this, I m not interested by pieces of meat even pretty, or prostitute behavior like kissing everybody or rubbing in public, because no charm, no dream, so no pleasure, not women for me. If I want reality, then I accept when they ask me to meet outside or to go to Romania, but I prefer FKK dreams when I succeed to find one, stay in FKK. Some of my real girlfriends were married before, but they were not prostitute.[/QUOTE]OK, some charm do play part a bit, but I have been told I am special, I am not just client before by working girls, it is nice thing to hear, but to me, I only take these nice words as them doing superior job. I am nice to girls as long as nice to me, but I never forget that they are prostitutes and these girls are doing more superior jobs to make me come back to her, but for this I just have some level of respect for such well mannered girls in such brothel circumstances and I have gratitude for keeping it nice fair trade on both end.

Plus Sirioja, once you agree and go to Romania, that is when things can become more odd, it is usually nice at the beginning, but then it will lead to road to mayhem. As you put it, some girls sell you dreams, they are nice, they play their part according to your desire, but that is them being professional and also in part being nice because you are nice, but then reality kicks in front of small safety box, you got to pay money baby LOL!

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2315592]Many girls are coming to FKK land to make money for their child when father ran away. Usually, little mum are higher level, because they know better their body, and they seem to appreciate to be treated as women, when they most often say: this is better for her, he ran away. But when they are fucked whole day, baby is with granny.

Yes money business, but a bit of dream is more enjoyable for me than just emptying balls between 2 legs, or in mouth, but each one own pleasure. Most enjoyable for me is to touch the woman part, just sex is boring with girls with very limited level about sexuality, they didn't learn much when being fucked at home.[/QUOTE]Yeap, I had a girl who added me on facebook and I checked her friend lists and found few FKK girls and some of them had baby photos and it was surprising a bit to find out they got kid and kept their shape more or less.

Classic story to begin tuting isn't it?

[QUOTE=MrHo;2315631]OK, some charm do play part a bit, but I have been told I am special, I am not just client before by working girls, it is nice thing to hear, but to me, I only take these nice words as them doing superior job. I am nice to girls as long as nice to me, but I never forget that they are prostitutes and these girls are doing more superior jobs to make me come back to her, but for this I just have some level of respect for such well mannered girls in such brothel circumstances and I have gratitude for keeping it nice fair trade on both end.

Plus Sirioja, once you agree and go to Romania, that is when things can become more odd, it is usually nice at the beginning, but then it will lead to road to mayhem. As you put it, some girls sell you dreams, they are nice, they play their part according to your desire, but that is them being professional and also in part being nice because you are nice, but then reality kicks in front of small safety box, you got to pay money baby LOL![/QUOTE]In FKK land, like free ride or climbing my mountains, I look for dreams, I want to pay only to dream so I m only interested by looks and behavior who make me dream, I m not interested just by sex. I could go for shopping with Oase wow who makes me dream in club, but what for? I m sure good snow in Brasov, but what for? I m not a Romanian pimp, just a Romanian beauties lover, but only in FKK land, even we can have contacts when they are or I am at home, but FKK dreams stay in FKK land, they are not my real life with job and sports passions. Some people have house for week end, datcha for Russians, I have whole FKK land where I sometimes find higher level Romanians than now Russian escorts met in Paris, because when Romanians feel You love them, from what they knew with BF at home, then they can give great back.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2315630]In Japan that happened? You know it is one of the safest country in the whole world and I don't know where you read that, but if that happened and she went into US embassy for rescue, it will be huge scandal which will be used against Japan for trade talk by US government and used also for other political attack simply because Japan is only non white G7 country and because of that Japan is always under attacks.

However, these event do happen in similar scale in porn industry in Japan in lower end of the industry, where some young more naive girls are lured into porn industry saying it is bikini shooting etc. , but in reality it is porn and only find out once they walk into shooting, but they do leave foreign girls in this case also simply because they can do this to Japanese girls and they could get away with it till 1990's, but not to foreigners. This foreigners mostly are white foreigners only, similar things happen to many Filipina and other Asian girls. It is Yakuza related, but after 90's they cannot do this anymore due to tightening of new law against Yakuza.[/QUOTE]This was circa 2012-2013, if I remember correctly. The girl told me personally, even showed me scars from some of the violent acts. I knew her for years, and didn't see any reason that she was making up such an unfortunate abduction situation. She didn't ask me for any favor or money then. She still showed me her temporary US passport issued by the Embassy in Japan, thinking that I maybe a bit skeptical. My guess she somehow fell into hands of some powerful and well connected gang or establishment.

[QUOTE=Gino02;2315714]This was circa 2012-2013, if I remember correctly. The girl told me personally, even showed me scars from some of the violent acts. I knew her for years, and didn't see any reason that she was making up such an unfortunate abduction situation. She didn't ask me for any favor or money then. She still showed me her temporary US passport issued by the Embassy in Japan, thinking that I maybe a bit skeptical. My guess she somehow fell into hands of some powerful and well connected gang or establishment.[/QUOTE]Well, she could have worked in bath house here called soap land which is grey area, but legal prostitution in Japan or delivery health which is completely legal form of prostitution where all are allowed beside penetration which also do happen based on extra fee or even free based on consensus.

It is just odd that such event did not make it to main stream media especially if US embassy picked up the case. Plus Yakuza tend to hate problem that goes to federal level because top guys run billion USD businesses, so they do not like little thing leading to the big things that they do. They are more white collar criminal than blue collar criminal, most blue collar crimes are conducted by lower ranked guys who need to put food on table and women related business are always the jobs of such people in most nation including Japan.

However, if female says she reported to police and did not pick up the case, it maybe possible because police in Japan are not corrupt at all, but they are too careful of picking up the case unless solid evidence is provided, and this definition of solid evidence here in Japan is too much to ask I even personally think. It is the side effect of being very careful culture I think, but it can play against victim in many crimes that are low in Japan.

Having said that, money can get you nice things here, but it won't buy you more than material things, corruption is very limited in Japan (they do exist, but in grey area) and once they decide to get you for crime, no matter how rich or high societal position you are, they going to come and get you like what happened to Mr Carlos Ghosn LOL! And in case of Tokyo special prosecution office, they tend to get more motivated higher position the criminals are that including politicians, that is why it got special on the name because they deal with special cases that involve criminal who thinks they got special power. It is notorious method though, but most of time it is for good, so let say it is required evil to get these guys who are hard to get.

Going back to the topic more, I think grey area prostitution exist every where, like AO clubs in Germany. I mean FKK is already hardcore enough, but which girl want to be fucked with no condom by many strangers and cum inside. I mean I do not think the cases in AO is not same case as in FKK.

It is bit like corruption it exist in every nations, but in some nations it is more obvious and wider than others and those nation won't get into G7 nations because it is not just about money, it require to be certain level of system to be leading nations of world.

Money can be motivation for girls, but in case of AO, it is expected that there is some system to keep them there, it is not same as FKK. But I know of some girls who worked in AO clubs and now in FKK, so maybe it is to pay back debt or something, so it is part of contract to work in AO first, then once it is paid they are allowed to move on to better environment of FKK.

And it is because of AO clubs they changed the law and resulted in we FKK mongers are suffering with extra BBBJ hustling LOL!

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2314816]First of all, what percentage of feminists does the awkward construction "many feminists are generally" amount to?

Second of all, do you really believe these myths you post? Or is it just a pose? Or perhaps both?[/QUOTE]Myths, or no myths. If you are like me, active in politics, you tend to see certain trends. Especially if you do house flyer meetups before elections.

One being that the more beautiful women in average tend to have richer husbands. So they are splendidly fine with the idea that there are biological differences between the sexes.

The more beautiful women in average also recognize their power through the average males lust for them. So they consider men's income easily attainable through other means than what feminist groups label sexual equality.

I hope you get me drift. The red line is strong.

It doesn't take a doctorate, nor a nursery undergrad course in sexuality to also notice that beautiful P6 women's total possible income pool is higher, in case men makes more money than the average non P6 working women.

Like my female friend in Asia once told me at lunch, "local men spends a third of their income on p6, so that is why we prefer western men. Since us women then gets a higher share of our men's income". Cause that is a big factor in this entire discussion. Although little did she know she had the wrong guy. LOL! Well, if she had looked like Andra (Oceans), Alina (Oceans), Lucy, Adelle (Oase), Ina (Oase), Sidonia (Sharks), Natalie (Wellcum) or some other top P6 girl we know, then perhaps I'd be more faithful. LOL.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2315630]In Japan that happened? You know it is one of the safest country in the whole world and I don't know where you read that, but if that happened and she went into US embassy for rescue, it will be huge scandal which will be used against Japan for trade talk by US government and used also for other political attack simply because Japan is only non white G7 country and because of that Japan is always under attacks.

However, these event do happen in similar scale in porn industry in Japan in lower end of the industry, where some young more naive girls are lured into porn industry saying it is bikini shooting etc. , but in reality it is porn and only find out once they walk into shooting, but they do leave foreign girls in this case also simply because they can do this to Japanese girls and they could get away with it till 1990's, but not to foreigners. This foreigners mostly are white foreigners only, similar things happen to many Filipina and other Asian girls. It is Yakuza related, but after 90's they cannot do this anymore due to tightening of new law against Yakuza.[/QUOTE]First, I think it's somehow strange that you view Japan as always being attacked. I'm not from Japan, and I believe that the US military has been present there too long. Japan has been developing into an economic power house for over 50 years. I feel that the US is there, in their minds, to secure the region. The alliance is largely unwanted by the local regular citizens, so I feel it should end.

Second, I can imagine what is described happening in Japan, Korea, Germany, USA, Dubai, Turkey, etc. For Japan specifically, I can't recall how many times a Japanese man has stated that he loved to go to Sauna Clubs to fuck white girls. Many are so color specific that Romanians aren't even considered white. Go there, fuck white girls and send them off to their future husband, LOL LOL. Imagine a person with money, already a bit in criminal business, doesn't want to hang out and share his prime white pussy with regular punters. Or maybe he wants to fuck her until he's ready for a change and then profit from the purchase by selling her to less powerful men who can't or won't take the risk of importing one for themselves.

[QUOTE=Chongmal;2315855]First, I think it's somehow strange that you view Japan as always being attacked. I'm not from Japan, and I believe that the US military has been present there too long. Japan has been developing into an economic power house for over 50 years. I feel that the US is there, in their minds, to secure the region. The alliance is largely unwanted by the local regular citizens, so I feel it should end.

Second, I can imagine what is described happening in Japan, Korea, Germany, USA, Dubai, Turkey, etc. For Japan specifically, I can't recall how many times a Japanese man has stated that he loved to go to Sauna Clubs to fuck white girls..[/QUOTE]I actually think it is good that US military is present in Japan and I personally hope it will be present forever even we now going to renew our constitution, so we can work on offence side of military. US is best friend of Japan and US military can act as kind of like paid mercenary as we pay for 70% of the fee. And now with Brexit, UK is moving close to Japan and we think of this as good chance for us to make another already good ally even better ally to form strong G3 within G7 nations, so things go smoothly during such summit where sometimes debates never reach conclusion.

US is not attacking Japan beside fox news, it is other nations mostly and it is not military we are talking, I mean we do get rocketman shooting missile now and then, but it is low tech weapons that we can easily deal with, but in economic side Japan is always under attack like any other big nations are. Like Nissan is under attack now by France, namely macron, but we knew about it and to prevent take over, we already knew about Carlos Ghosns wrong doing for many years, it is just that we do not cut such card unless opponent make move on us first, which was the case of Nissan, Japan tend to not like foreign investment unless it is agreed on.

I do not get the your second point, but FKK is nice yes, but perhaps best format for white pussies where one can see white girls you fuck front of you before the purchase. As for Romanians, I like Romanians, as I mentioned before they cater to my exotic girl tastes, so it is nice, for awhile I got sick of them though because supply of Romanians are way too much in FKK and everywhere I go it is mostly Romanians, so appreciation faded away, but once I came to think of it again, they tend to be beautiful race till they hit let say age 35, or age 30, so it is nice that Romanians are dominated line up. However, precisely, they are mostly Latin based race, and some white are there too, but Romanians got Latin back ground way back, I like their exotic look.

Yeah some Japanese clients tend to like blonde girls mostly, me too, I do love blonde girls, but I tend to go for stunner to my taste, so I do not stick to certain type beside I tend to go for German girls if she is stunner optically, which is harder to find.

I am just glad that I first found FKK in 2009, so I did enjoy the time where line up was so diversed with many walk in German stunners and in those days, there were more Czech girls, Austrians, and beautiful polish girls too. Polish girls back in the day were quite many, but they are minority now, I miss these races in line up because they all look different because they are from different ethnic back ground.

[QUOTE=Sirioja;2315703]In FKK land, like free ride or climbing my mountains, I look for dreams, I want to pay only to dream so I m only interested by looks and behavior who make me dream, I m not interested just by sex. I could go for shopping with Oase wow who makes me dream in club, but what for? I m sure good snow in Brasov, but what for? I m not a Romanian pimp, just a Romanian beauties lover, but only in FKK land, even we can have contacts when they are or I am at home, but FKK dreams stay in FKK land, they are not my real life with job and sports passions. Some people have house for week end, datcha for Russians, I have whole FKK land where I sometimes find higher level Romanians than now Russian escorts met in Paris, because when Romanians feel You love them, from what they knew with BF at home, then they can give great back.[/QUOTE]OK, I feel ya on that one, but for me I seek for beauty like you, but I do not care too much for behavior as in theatrical acting of girl friend like session in room. I just care for what she does in room when it comes to behavior like BBBJ, rimming, kiss all over body etc. So maybe right word is beauty plus sexual acts for me and I do not care too much for feeling she trying to act out in room.

However, I had some nice session where girls are so passionate and keep on acting like a wife in first night of honeymoon with lust all out and these session were mind blowing, but I do not look for that particularly. I kind of suspect some of those girls took something as they were very aggressive in positive sexual sense and dirty to the core.

I focus on how she look first and then what she does in term of sex in room is what matter the most for me.

Yeah, FKK is the place where teenage male dreams come true and we get to experience dictator, ancient king or majaraja in harim like sexual experience back in older era.

I have done many things in FKK, and now I aim to seek for twin sisters who are both real beauty, I mean how unusual is that to fuck such twins and it is only possible in FKK. And as for sister things in FKK, I am most of time skeptical if they are really sisters, so I want identical level twins.

[QUOTE=MrHo;2316133]I have done many things in FKK, and now I aim to seek for twin sisters who are both real beauty, I mean how unusual is that to fuck such twins and it is only possible in FKK. And as for sister things in FKK, I am most of time skeptical if they are really sisters, so I want identical level twins.[/QUOTE]If you ever find beautiful twins, please share where to find them. Pretty much only fantasy left to check off the list. I have fucked sisters a few years ago.

FKK Yin Yang, closed.

FKK Acapulco, closed.

FKK Babylon, cover charge now 70 instead of 40.