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[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1327993]I can believe that. I came into POP once and got a big cup of Brugal on ice at the booth where they were giving it out for free. I proceeded to the Budget counter to pick up my car while I sipped. Then I checked my car out and got in and drove off with still a half cup left. Nobody seemed to give a shit. In the US they probably would have looked at me like I was crazy and refused to rent the car to me for some shit like that.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1327773]Where do you fly from and with whom for $260 to DR?
I look at MIA (and few others US cities) to POP at $500. $600 or so from now until Jan / Feb.
H[/QUOTE]From bos- sti its only $320 probably from fll. Sti should be around $260.
[QUOTE=OldKool;1328024]Real good moves.[/QUOTE]Ya I agree it is nuts to drive drunk, but it seems that a lot of people in the dr do it. Including the cops
I realize there's 1000's of Haitians leaving in sosua without a single haitian restaurant I started to think open 1 won't be a bad idea but before I do anythings stupid I have some questions for those of you that own a business in dr or know about the system. Can we guys tell me what is the requirements to open a restaurant and dr? Do I have to be a Dominican residents? Where is better the beach or the street?
[QUOTE=Chert1;1327912]Hahaha. I was not even referring to the fact that I was drinking rum in the car in my post. That had nothing to do with us Being stopped and shaken down. I asked my gf about that after she said it happens to everyone all the time. As far as drinking in the car. LOL. I was in the car with her brother in law going to get meat one day in Santiago and we both had full cups of rum in the vehicle. He was driving and I refilled him at leas twice. When I commented on it to the extent of the legality he just looked me like I was nuts, laughed and downed his cup and told me to refill him. Apparently he is a truck driver for a living. I don't think there are many laws in the dr and the ones that are in effect get broken all the time[/QUOTE]Drinking and driving is no joke regardless of the location or laws. I have lost two close friends to assholes like your gf's brother.
[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1327993]I can believe that. I came into POP once and got a big cup of Brugal on ice at the booth where they were giving it out for free. I proceeded to the Budget counter to pick up my car while I sipped. Then I checked my car out and got in and drove off with still a half cup left. Nobody seemed to give a shit. In the US they probably would have looked at me like I was crazy and refused to rent the car to me for some shit like that.[/QUOTE]Wow, not untill I became an ISG, member people thinks its funny as hell to drink and drive. I bet you would think twice, if you had a close friend and father of little ones, DIE at the hands of a "coward ass drunk driver". We think that somehow, since the laws are non existant in the DR, We somehow get a pass. It really makes me mad, that people don't fucking get it."Drinking and Driving" is WRONG, because it could lead to injury or DEATH. No matter what country you're in.
I aint here to preach to anyone, but The reason we shouldn't DRINK AND DRIVE, because It DANGEROUS. Not because people will ahem "Look at us funny"Hitting a tree or landing into a ditch" Kills you just as DEAD, or hurts someone just much there in the Dr, as it does here in the Us. Somehow we think is funny, and are exempt out of the country, from this "COWARD ASS" act. I bet people would think different if it were someone they loved got killed. Unfortunately I had a bestfriend killed by a drunk driver, going up the WRONG way up a off ramp, my friend was on his way home from work. He was hit head on, and killed instantly and left behind a wife and 2 little ones, that will NEVER see there father again. I hope we think twice no matter where we drink and drive, It might be your last laugh. (RIP) Glenn, you are missed every day.
Peace!
[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1328100]Wow, not untill I became an ISG, member people thinks its funny as hell to drink and drive. I bet you would think twice, if you had a close friend and father of little ones, DIE at the hands of a "coward ass drunk driver". We think that somehow, since the laws are non existant in the DR, We somehow get a pass. It really makes me mad, that people don't fucking get it."Drinking and Driving" is WRONG, because it could lead to injury or DEATH. No matter what country you're in.
I aint here to preach to anyone, but The reason we shouldn't DRINK AND DRIVE, because It DANGEROUS. Not because people will ahem "Look at us funny"Hitting a tree or landing into a ditch" Kills you just as DEAD, or hurts someone just much there in the Dr, as it does here in the Us. Somehow we think is funny, and are exempt out of the country, from this "COWARD ASS" act. I bet people would think different if it were someone they loved got killed. Unfortunately I had a bestfriend killed by a drunk driver, going up the WRONG way up a off ramp, my friend was on his way home from work. He was hit head on, and killed instantly and left behind a wife and 2 little ones, that will NEVER see there father again. I hope we think twice no matter where we drink and drive, It might be your last laugh. (RIP) Glenn, you are missed every day.
Peace![/QUOTE]don't get me wrong, I agree with you 100% about drinking and driving. I was merely describing what I saw
[QUOTE=Jarmondy;1328071]I realize there's 1000's of Haitians leaving in sosua without a single haitian restaurant I started to think open 1 won't be a bad idea but before I do anythings stupid I have some questions for those of you that own a business in dr or know about the system. Can we guys tell me what is the requirements to open a restaurant and dr? Do I have to be a Dominican residents? Where is better the beach or the street?[/QUOTE]The 1000s of haitans who live in sosua and hardly make a living won't spent their hard earned money in a restaurant, just my humble opinion.
I look up flight from NY to POP which is close to Sousa and they are around $500 to SAnta Domingo its only $300 What is the cost to get from Santa Domingo to Sousa? Also is that a safe ride from that airport to Sousa? Thanks in advance for help guys. Also I have a few girls I met online who I want to go see or have them come to me.
[QUOTE=DeepMmpactt; 1328100]Wow, not untill I became an ISG, member people thinks its funny as hell to drink and drive. I bet you would think twice, if you had a close friend and father of little ones, DIE at the hands of a "coward ass drunk driver". We think that somehow, since the laws are non existant in the DR, We somehow get a pass. It really makes me mad, that people don't fucking get it."Drinking and Driving" is WRONG, because it could lead to injury or DEATH. No matter what country you're in.
Peace![/QUOTE]I totally agree with you, but unfortunately this is part of daily life here. Every weekend in San Christobal on the avenida there is hundreds of people hanging out and drinking (ordering bottles of rum, whiskey.) and they all go home by motochonco or by car.
Currently staying at Sea Breeze for the week.
If anyone on the board wants to hang out for drinks with a 30ish brotha from the islands via Miami let me know.
Also is there a map available for the area? Has anyone made one? Can't seem to find one on google.
[QUOTE=Jarmondy;1328071]I realize there's 1000's of Haitians leaving in sosua without a single haitian restaurant I started to think open 1 won't be a bad idea but before I do anythings stupid I have some questions for those of you that own a business in dr or know about the system. Can we guys tell me what is the requirements to open a restaurant and dr? Do I have to be a Dominican residents? Where is better the beach or the street?[/QUOTE]I would love to see a Haitian restaurant anywhere on the North Coast but there are two reasons there aren't any and the fact that 99. 9% of Haitians cannot afford to eat in restaurants isn't one of them, as the only way you could hope to make money would be to cater as a "speciality niche" restaurant to gringos.
It is extremely difficult for any non-Dominican to run a business in the DR. There are a zillion rules, regulations, taxes and fees that are selectively applied. Any gringo who has a successful business either has high-level contacts or is paying a fortune in bribes. Whereas Dominicans can avoid most of these obstacles using a family contact or a modest bribe.
And because of the extreme prejudice against Haitians in the DR you would be in a worse position than anyone. And apart from the "official" and "legal" pressures and blackmail you would face, you could look forward to petrol bombs through your door and your staff being threatened or beaten up. You would have difficulty hiring Haitian staff (which would diminish the "authentic experience" for tourists) as jobs have to be offered to Dominicans first. And you would have to have residency to run any business.
Finally, if my some miracle you survived and were seen to make a profit, one day a carload of gangsters, lawyers and colonels would turn up and find some shit reason why you have to shut down (and the law here is so incredibly complex it could even be a legal reason) but they will do you a favor and make you an offer you cannot refuse. Any resistence and you would be deported on the next plane out. This is happened to several gringos in the past. Not many, because not many ever achieve profitable status.
If you are serious about the idea I suggest you talk to some of the few non-Dominicans who do run businesses in the "entertainment" sector here. If you don't personally know any I could PM you some suggestions.
Funnily enough I have just come back from a restaurant on the Malecon in Puerto Plata. Talking to the gringo owner he said that the only good things in the DR are the sun, the beaches, the women, and the rum. (I would add the bachata and others would add the cigars). He then went on to say that if a tsunami washed away the North Coast it would be no loss as the world would not miss such a shithole. He is a normally genial and tolerant guy but has been driven to exasperation by the insanity, the greed, the corruption and the incompetence of Dominican bureaucracy, both official and private suppliers. Now he is in the 1% or less whose gringo business has survived for a year or more. What do you think the other 99% are saying (those who have not topped themselves or died of stress-related conditions)?
The old question was "How to leave the DR with a million dollars?". Answer: "Arrive with two million dollars". Nowadays they have made it difficult to leave with your remaining million, unless you are a drug-dealer or crooked politician.
The DR is a great place to come and enjoy the things listed above, sun, beaches, chicas, rum, bachata and cigars. It is a deathtrap for outsiders wanting to run a business and ten times worse for a Haitian or someone who looks like a Haitian.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1328222]Finally, if my some miracle you survived and were seen to make a profit, one day a carload of gangsters, lawyers and colonels would turn up and find some shit reason why you have to shut down (and the law here is so incredibly complex it could even be a legal reason) but they will do you a favor and make you an offer you cannot refuse. Any resistence and you would be deported on the next plane out. This is happened to several gringos in the past. Not many, because not many ever achieve profitable status.
The DR is a great place to come and enjoy the things listed above, sun, beaches, chicas, rum, bachata and cigars. It is a deathtrap for outsiders wanting to run a business and ten times worse for a Haitian or someone who looks like a Haitian.[/QUOTE]Mr. Pooter,
You just described in gory and graphic details how 85% to 95% of the countries in the world function, of different intensities, including DR.
Unfortunately, you are right.
H
Charles I don't dispute anything you said in your post. However, I was wondering how the Cuban owned clubs in Santo Domingo survive? Do they pay alot of graf or what? How about the Italians in Boca Chica? I am sure there are other examples of business owned by foreigners but you get the point.
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter; 1328222]I would love to see a Haitian restaurant anywhere on the North Coast but there are two reasons there aren't any and the fact that 99. 9% of Haitians cannot afford to eat in restaurants isn't one of them, as the only way you could hope to make money would be to cater as a "speciality niche" restaurant to gringos.
It is extremely difficult for any non-Dominican to run a business in the DR. There are a zillion rules, regulations, taxes and fees that are selectively applied. Any gringo who has a successful business either has high-level contacts or is paying a fortune in bribes. Whereas Dominicans can avoid most of these obstacles using a family contact or a modest bribe.
And because of the extreme prejudice against Haitians in the DR you would be in a worse position than anyone. And apart from the "official" and "legal" pressures and blackmail you would face, you could look forward to petrol bombs through your door and your staff being threatened or beaten up. You would have difficulty hiring Haitian staff (which would diminish the "authentic experience" for tourists) as jobs have to be offered to Dominicans first. And you would have to have residency to run any business.
Finally, if my some miracle you survived and were seen to make a profit, one day a carload of gangsters, lawyers and colonels would turn up and find some shit reason why you have to shut down (and the law here is so incredibly complex it could even be a legal reason) but they will do you a favor and make you an offer you cannot refuse. Any resistence and you would be deported on the next plane out. This is happened to several gringos in the past. Not many, because not many ever achieve profitable status.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Charles Pooter;1328222]The old question was "How to leave the DR with a million dollars?". Answer: "Arrive with two million dollars".[/QUOTE]Sad, but funny as hell, lol!