Kuala Lumpur

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2193776]Hi all,

I'll be in KL for an overnight layover and am planning to do some mongering. Is Skyriver, Golden Elephant and other spas still operating? Given time restraints I'll visit just one, which one would punters recommend?

Also I saw on another page on this forum [URL]http://viva3.com/[/URL] does anyone have any experience with this outfit?

Cheers in advance.[/QUOTE]Skyriver, Golden Elephant, Deluxe, Genesis, all are still open. Given it's right after the local Hari Raya holidays, things will be slower and you'll find mostly Chinese and Vietnamese girls, and few if any Malays / Indonesians.

Cheers to all for the prompt reply. I've only got about 14 hrs between landing and taking off again so I doubt I'll book a place to stay. I was planning on wandering around and getting some food to eat before finding a spa to visit. After getting serious food poisoning in a Macau spa I am wary of eating any food at a spa. Afterwards hit the casino way off in the mountains until it's time to make my way back to the airport.

Are the spas similar to the ones in Macau with sauna and misc services like shoulder massage? If I don't want to go with a girl if none are to my liking, can I just walk out without paying or just pay entrance fee? Or is it once you enter you have to decide / pay for a service before seeing the girls?

I'll be they around June 27th so it should be well after the public holiday. I've tried Thais and Viets before so it'the be nice to go with a Malay girl.

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2193966]Cheers to all for the prompt reply. I've only got about 14 hrs between landing and taking off again so I doubt I'll book a place to stay. I was planning on wandering around and getting some food to eat before finding a spa to visit. After getting serious food poisoning in a Macau spa I am wary of eating any food at a spa. Afterwards hit the casino way off in the mountains until it's time to make my way back to the airport.

Are the spas similar to the ones in Macau with sauna and misc services like shoulder massage? If I don't want to go with a girl if none are to my liking, can I just walk out without paying or just pay entrance fee? Or is it once you enter you have to decide / pay for a service before seeing the girls?

I'll be they around June 27th so it should be well after the public holiday. I've tried Thais and Viets before so it'the be nice to go with a Malay girl.[/QUOTE]Spas in Kl are more like brothel. Pretty dodgy nothing great. Basic idea. Walk in sit in chair. Parade of girls. Choose girl. Mainly Viet, PRC, some Thai, some Malay if lucky, pay money, rooms are a bit dodgy mattress on floor shower, do the deed and go. I went to Soleili and asked for spa but seemed like never been used. Don't expect too much. Ab nothing like macau spas. If don't like girls can walk out. Yes food is dodgy wouldn't recommend.

Like I said Skyriver is cleanest. Well my opinion and depends on girl you get. Pick the one who WANTS you. Smiling, trying to get you to pick her, don't just get most attractive. Would not recommend PRChinese- noted for poor perf. Remember lower your expectations. Amybe try extra tip of girl to ensure good perf. Good luck.

I will be visiting Malaysia in few days can you please suggest any good escorts or the Spa for some fun.

I love to dominate and boob lover. Can you please suggest?

PM is active.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=BigCat13;2193966]I'll be they around June 27th so it should be well after the public holiday. I've tried Thais and Viets before so it'the be nice to go with a Malay girl.[/QUOTE]Well I hate to disappoint you, but you will find few if any Malay girls in the spas. Most of the Malay girls I've seen advertised are working as escorts, and they are pricey. Remember, though Malays are clearly the majority in the country, Malays are mostly Muslim and their relationships outside of marriage have some odd legal restrictions on them. To summarize the situation, by law they are not supposed to be intimate with a non-Muslim. They aren't even supposed to be alone in the same room with you, hence their low representation in advertised prostitution (freelancers are a different story, but that's not something you would have access to). And while the law will turn its eyes away from Muslim Indonesian girls in the spas and brothels, a local girl is a different story. Thus, the majority of working girls are from overseas. Indonesia, Thailand, the PRC and mostly Indochina. Even the local Chinese girls are a premium product, so the Chinese girls on offer are likely from the PRC. Some places cater to Chinese and limit their service restrict customers of other ethnicities (though those won't be on your radar). While I do share your enthusiasm for trying different things, you might not have the choice that you are looking for. But, at the end of the day, its all about the service, isn't it? And if the service isn't so good, it will still be an experience, and that's what makes it an adventure. So have fun.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2194093]Spas in Kl are more like brothel. Pretty dodgy nothing great. Basic idea. Walk in sit in chair. Parade of girls. Choose girl. Mainly Viet, PRC, some Thai, some Malay if lucky, pay money, rooms are a bit dodgy mattress on floor shower, do the deed and go. I went to Soleili and asked for spa but seemed like never been used. Don't expect too much. Ab nothing like macau spas. If don't like girls can walk out. Yes food is dodgy wouldn't recommend.

Like I said Skyriver is cleanest. Well my opinion and depends on girl you get. Pick the one who WANTS you. Smiling, trying to get you to pick her, don't just get most attractive. Would not recommend PRChinese- noted for poor perf. Remember lower your expectations. Amybe try extra tip of girl to ensure good perf. Good luck.[/QUOTE]I never choose PRC girls as I've also had bad or so so experience. If I'm able to try them out I'll report back.

Cheers for all the info.

I had a similar experience with a Viet girl at BC some 5 years ago. A bit of a newbie, about 20 years old, slim but not skinny, beautiful fresh face, spoke little English but genuinely friendly and enthusiastic, and she was really into me (for some reason? Kissing was truly passionate and the chemistry was awesome (despite the lack of verbal communication). I went back to BC the next evening and found nobody that compared so left alone, and then I had to leave KL the next day. So regretted not seeing her again; sometimes you got to stick to your first choice and not keep looking for alternatives thinking you can find better.

[QUOTE=BlackPage;2048409]I cannot agree more!
I have just spent 4 days in KL. This is my brief summary.

CHANGKAT

Visited 3 times. Confirmed my impression of last years. Since the big groups of Pinays are gone (I miss them so much), this place is advisable only if I have long time to spend in KL and therefore I can go, check slowly, without the pressure of having only 2-3 nights and no time to fail.
Most ladies are older and more expensive. Some pretty locals at Zion, but again, I would spend 3 hours dancing and paying drinks to a local only if I have many nights to spend here. If I have few nights and I have to maximise my odds to get decently laid, I go to BC or to a spa if BC does not offer anything I like.

BEACH CLUB

Not full, but good this time! Many very nice looking Viet sexy girls here! BUT:

1) Most girls are very hardcore workers, those who spent several weeks here already and got hardened. I would not expect much GFE, just good pro service and for a high fee..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2194112]Well I hate to disappoint you, but you will find few if any Malay girls in the spas. Most of the Malay girls I've seen advertised are working as escorts, and they are pricey. Remember, though Malays are clearly the majority in the country, Malays are mostly Muslim and their relationships outside of marriage have some odd legal restrictions on them. To summarize the situation, by law they are not supposed to be intimate with a non-Muslim. They aren't even supposed to be alone in the same room with you, hence their low representation in advertised prostitution (freelancers are a different story, but that's not something you would have access to). And while the law will turn its eyes away from Muslim Indonesian girls in the spas and brothels, a local girl is a different story. Thus, the majority of working girls are from overseas. Indonesia, Thailand, the PRC and mostly Indochina. Even the local Chinese girls are a premium product, so the Chinese girls on offer are likely from the PRC. Some places cater to Chinese and limit their service restrict customers of other ethnicities (though those won't be on your radar). While I do share your enthusiasm for trying different things, you might not have the choice that you are looking for. But, at the end of the day, its all about the service, isn't it? And if the service isn't so good, it will still be an experience, and that's what makes it an adventure. So have fun.[/QUOTE]Slight correction, 99.999% of Malays are muslim, and they are not suppose to be intimate with anyone other than their spouse (Malay's or not) . While there are Malay's FL, they are rare and only usually open to pre-vetted locals. The reason is as described, the authorities will not turn a blind eye to it.

Hi,

Recently joined the Forum as going to KL on business for first time in July for 8 days and plan on taking in some local delights!

Have poured through pages on here and online generally to try and make informed decisions on where to visit, online agent to use etc, and found a lot of useful information but is it generally considered worth using an online agency (been looking at lust141) or just visiting a MP or going somewhere like BC? Just concerned that what I'm seeing in the pictures online won't be anything like what shows up at the hotel which leaves me in an awkward position to back out if she's not to my taste. At least its face to face and my choice in MP and BC type places.

And is it safe having these girls in your room and knowing where you're staying?

Also, try as I might, really struggling to find someone to do a Nuru massage. Any tips or recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Any brother knows what Viva's Porn Star service includes?

[QUOTE=RJ318;2195225]Hi,
Recently joined the Forum as going to KL on business for first time in July for 8 days and plan on taking in some local delights!
Have poured through pages on here and online generally to try and make informed decisions on where to visit, online agent to use etc, and found a lot of useful information but is it generally considered worth using an online agency (been looking at lust141) or just visiting a MP or going somewhere like BC? Just concerned that what I'm seeing in the pictures online won't be anything like what shows up at the hotel which leaves me in an awkward position to back out if she's not to my taste. At least its face to face and my choice in MP and BC type places.
And is it safe having these girls in your room and knowing where you're staying?
Also, try as I might, really struggling to find someone to do a Nuru massage. Any tips or recommendations would be appreciated.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Firstly spread your wings my friend. Maybe try 1 agency, 1 spa. Sorry as far as I know no soapy or nuru and then try BC. Then choose your poison.

My pref for BC & TC & FL generally is 1. You have got choice right there in front of you, you negotiate direct with provider. List your requirements settle on price, test the waters in the club, price is often less than agencies. Prefer to give money direct to girls. The good thing also about FL is if they don't follow through with perf then you can kick them out or pay reduced fee. BUT you must make sure both of you undertand terms so reinforce this at least twice in negotiations. Before we leave I always say ' So you will. A, be, see and I will pay you $x. " Then later on if they don't a,be, see then bye.

Be specific. - I am a definite GF exp guy myself with DFK a must so if they go the old peck business there is the door.

May I suggest you have a base price then an incentive scheme for good perf. I am going to be there next week. My base will be 350 and 50/100 for good perf. I won't be going above 500 though. That will be my max and she better be bloody good.

The great thing about KL is choice. All the best and remember please report back on here.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2195387]Firstly spread your wings my friend. Maybe try 1 agency, 1 spa. Sorry as far as I know no soapy or nuru and then try BC. Then choose your poison.

My pref for BC & TC & FL generally is 1. You have got choice right there in front of you, you negotiate direct with provider. List your requirements settle on price, test the waters in the club, price is often less than agencies. Prefer to give money direct to girls. The good thing also about FL is if they don't follow through with perf then you can kick them out or pay reduced fee. BUT you must make sure both of you undertand terms so reinforce this at least twice in negotiations. Before we leave I always say ' So you will. A, be, see and I will pay you $x. " Then later on if they don't a,be, see then bye.

Be specific. - I am a definite GF exp guy myself with DFK a must so if they go the old peck business there is the door..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, will just have to spread those wings far and wide!

Ok arrived late afternoon, checked in, food, money, quick look around Pavilion – plenty of wildlife. Fired up Wechat, chat with a few Thai massage providers willing to come to hotel then and there. One quoted 500ST. LOL, bye. Chat with a Chinese hottie but was never going to take. One Viet cuttie but she soon gave my Wechat ID to older friend. Finally got out of her she was 45 – ha LOL bye. Have set myself certain criteria this trip and must try to stay on them no matter how much they rub my dick or promise the world.

Hit the beach at 10:40. Watched first half of WC Football.

About half full. Saw 2 WG I rejected when I was here last time. One saw me and bolted LOL. Rejected several pork chops PRC and Viet MILF & Black girl. Finally little Viet latched on to me. I thought ok I'm tired lets negotiate and test the water. Passed the prelim interview stage and agreed on price which was 350 plus 50 or 100 more for incentive – tried to ask for more but rejected and said she better go find someone else, she folded. Short walk to hotel. Stayed for approx. 2 hrs, she went back to BC as they do but said wanted to come back at 2 am but I will be sleeping phone off.

Name: Deng.

Nationality: Viet – Hanoi.

Age: 26.

Face: 6 nice smile.

Breast: Great set of the tits and she knows it. Looks hot in dress.

Body: Tight arse, little spinner – could pick her up and carry her around. No baby, tummy flat.

Pussy: little and fairly tight. Great looking pussy. Smooth mound, got very wet.

Perf: FJ lots of positions managed to get bb too (not wise but hate those things), Pussy play, DFK, GFE, lots of moaning and biting of her fingers. 2 pops. DATY.

Rating: 8.

WIR: yep – fun girl, nice personality, likes sex, eager to please. I think she enjoyed herself.

Damage: base 350 and gave tip of 50. Total: 400 – she tried to tell me most nights she goes only for 500 but yeah nice story luv – as I said we agreed on base and 50 or 100 so that's what she gets. She wanted to come back at 2 am so she left happy.

Day 1 KL. Hey if that happened every night I will be a happy camper.

NI.

God dam second night syndrome. Day 2.

Tried for repeat perf with Deng, but you know how sometimes the second time around isn't the same. Fair enough got FJ and DATY and just 1 pop BB but her heart just wasn't in it this time. Tried the old feigning asleep trick too – started to get her going again but just wasn't working. Went to motion BBBJ but she raced off into the bathroom came out armed with toilet paper and a towel. WTF. Got up, got dressed, said "time for you to go" -gave 300, she looked at me, tried to start but just said "half job gets half pay".

WIR: No.

Damage: 300.

Rating: 6 ish but left a bad taste in my mouth.

A few other tit bits. Seems like Wechat is more miss than hit. Prob chatted with 10 girls so far. Usually lead you on a bit and hit with 500ST or more. I imagine trying their luck. Most often want an early night customer and then off to another venue to get a second in.

As per usual girls are full of lies – one wechat girl told me old 65 Indian customer just wanted live in GF and paid her 10 nights at Concorde Hotel no sex. Yeah right and my dick 8 inches. Deng told me last night she got second customer paid her 500 and her friend got customer paid 800. I hope she's lying which I think she is – I said Japanese – she said yes – I think bullshit- all the times in BC haven't seen many Japanese there. She said sometimes she gets 1000. I told her nose is growing. She no understand.

Quick food recommendation- Tijuana's at Changkat around corner from Soleil Hotel and their dodgy spa come brothel. Bloody good Indian food and bloody cheap. 2 dishes, rice, 3 veges, coke – all for 8 US. But regular KL visitors will know of this place.

Night 2 = fair – lesson – maybe leave a day between repeats – maybe I was too keen and she thought easy money.

Night 3 got to love those farm girls.

Stuffed around with Wechat for most of day – finding out its prob better to see merchandise first. Had offers to come to hotel for ST for 350 but thought Sat night must be party night in KL so lets hit the beach. Got to Beach Club at 10:30 OMG sausage fest, thought this isn't good. Got grabbed by a few but not as many as usual, got a few reject looks too. All good. Couple of Eastern Europeans who to me looked like death warmed up and Asian Milfs who also well passed their prime. Its funny starting to see the "regulars" and gave Deng a Hello, but no thanks look. She was cool.

First cab off the rank was a Viet girl from Hanoi- cute, 26, nice bod, long black hair, she introduced herself and was keen so lets talk. Small talk for a while then down to business. Came out with the 500ST, 800/1000 LT bullshit. Seems like this is the regular bullshit starting price they all try to get now. Put her straight with my 350 + 50/100 tip which didn't go down well. " How come you say 350 when its 500ST" she says. Really where is that written honey? Anyway basically decided that service would be shit so told her to run away and find another customer. Not this little black duck! Hate when that happens because have to start again. Wandered around blonde look like Russian at bar kept given me the look but wasn't going there. Another older Viet girl tried to push a younger one on to me but small talk was boring and just no chemistry.

Just as I was walking outside noticed a small girl basically cowering in the corner. When she saw me her face lit up. Ok here we go. Small talk and I grab her arse straight away and she's fine with that. More small talk, went for a kiss and got the tongue as well. Hey ho here we go. Moved to the negotiation table more small talk, she was keen and never let go of me. She mentioned about how hot in Vietnam it was and how out "at the farm.. Ok that made my mind up. When suggested she come home with me it was yes please. Didn't talk money, walking back she was grabbing me and giving very good signals.

Now in reflection I think prob her first night or close to it. She was naïve and too trusting and never ever said no to anything. If you think about a sweet little Viet farm girl well that about sums Kim up.

Details:

Name: Kim.

Age: 23.

Nationality: Viet- Saigon.

Body: little spinner type, breasts see cup hard and big nipples, tight arse, no tummy or scars.

Pussy: fair, not tight not loose.

Face: 6 but cuteish esp when she gives the I like you look.

Perf: Full on GFE, DFK, BBBJ, rimming, FJ 3 rounds only 2 pops tho, many positions. Stayed ST for 2 hrs which I require. Must have been about 5 minutes between hitting the bed and having her spread eagle above me saying F me. Realistic moans and enthusiastic encouragement. She showered and washed me beforehand. For enthusiasm hard to beat.

Damage: gave her 400 – when she got it, it was like Christmas time, reinforced newbie theory. Wanted to go LT but not on your first night honey. Eager to see me again so exchanged digits.

WIR: Guess what I am doing tomorrow night.

So after what I thought was going to be a sausage fest take what I could get night turned out to be in the top 5 experiences in KL.

P.S. If my writing style is too long, laborious and full of extra crappy details you don't want to know just tell me and I'll just stick to the basic essential details.

NI.

Good report and good details to know. I am ok with your writing style, makes a good reading.

[QUOTE=NewImage;2197200]God dam second night syndrome. Day 2.

Tried for repeat perf with Deng, but you know how sometimes the second time around isn't the same. Fair enough got FJ and DATY and just 1 pop BB but her heart just wasn't in it this time. Tried the old feigning asleep trick too started to get her going again but just wasn't working. Went to motion BBBJ but she raced off into the bathroom came out armed with toilet paper and a towel. WTF. Got up, got dressed, said "time for you to go" -gave 300, she looked at me, tried to start but just said "half job gets half pay".

WIR: No.

Damage: 300.

Rating: 6 ish but left a bad taste in my mouth.

A few other tit bits. Seems like Wechat is more miss than hit. Prob chatted with 10 girls so far. Usually lead you on a bit and hit with 500ST or more. I imagine trying their luck. Most often want an early night customer and then off to another venue to get a second in.

As per usual girls are full of lies one wechat girl told me old 65 Indian customer just wanted live in GF and paid her 10 nights at Concorde Hotel no sex. Yeah right and my dick 8 inches. Deng told me last night she got second customer paid her 500 and her friend got customer paid 800. I hope she's lying which I think she is I said Japanese she said yes I think bullshit- all the times in BC haven't seen many Japanese there. She said sometimes she gets 1000. I told her nose is growing. She no understand.

Quick food recommendation- Tijuana's at Changkat around corner from Soleil Hotel and their dodgy spa come brothel. Bloody good Indian food and bloody cheap. 2 dishes, rice, 3 veges, coke all for 8 US. But regular KL visitors will know of this place.

Night 2 = fair lesson maybe leave a day between repeats maybe I was too keen and she thought easy money.

Night 3 got to love those farm girls.

Stuffed around with Wechat for most of day finding out its prob better to see merchandise first. Had offers to come to hotel for ST for 350 but thought Sat night must be party night in KL so lets hit the beach. Got to Beach Club at 10:30 OMG sausage fest, thought this isn't good. Got grabbed by a few but not as many as usual, got a few reject looks too. All good. Couple of Eastern Europeans who to me looked like death warmed up and Asian Milfs who also well passed their prime. Its funny starting to see the "regulars" and gave Deng a Hello, but no thanks look. She was cool.

First cab off the rank was a Viet girl from Hanoi- cute, 26, nice bod, long black hair, she introduced herself and was keen so lets talk. Small talk for a while then down to business. Came out with the 500ST, 800/1000 LT bullshit. Seems like this is the regular bullshit starting price they all try to get now. Put her straight with my 350 + 50/100 tip which didn't go down well. " How come you say 350 when its 500ST" she says. Really where is that written honey? Anyway basically decided that service would be shit so told her to run away and find another customer. Not this little black duck! Hate when that happens because have to start again. Wandered around blonde look like Russian at bar kept given me the look but wasn't going there. Another older Viet girl tried to push a younger one on to me but small talk was boring and just no chemistry.

Just as I was walking outside noticed a small girl basically cowering in the corner. When she saw me her face lit up. Ok here we go. Small talk and I grab her arse straight away and she's fine with that. More small talk, went for a kiss and got the tongue as well. Hey ho here we go. Moved to the negotiation table more small talk, she was keen and never let go of me. She mentioned about how hot in Vietnam it was and how out "at the farm.. Ok that made my mind up. When suggested she come home with me it was yes please. Didn't talk money, walking back she was grabbing me and giving very good signals.

Now in reflection I think prob her first night or close to it. She was nave and too trusting and never ever said no to anything. If you think about a sweet little Viet farm girl well that about sums Kim up.

Details:

Name: Kim.

Age: 23.

Nationality: Viet- Saigon.

Body: little spinner type, breasts see cup hard and big nipples, tight arse, no tummy or scars.

Pussy: fair, not tight not loose.

Face: 6 but cuteish esp when she gives the I like you look.

Perf: Full on GFE, DFK, BBBJ, rimming, FJ 3 rounds only 2 pops tho, many positions. Stayed ST for 2 hrs which I require. Must have been about 5 minutes between hitting the bed and having her spread eagle above me saying F me. Realistic moans and enthusiastic encouragement. She showered and washed me beforehand. For enthusiasm hard to beat.

Damage: gave her 400 when she got it, it was like Christmas time, reinforced newbie theory. Wanted to go LT but not on your first night honey. Eager to see me again so exchanged digits.

WIR: Guess what I am doing tomorrow night.

So after what I thought was going to be a sausage fest take what I could get night turned out to be in the top 5 experiences in KL.

P.S. If my writing style is too long, laborious and full of extra crappy details you don't want to know just tell me and I'll just stick to the basic essential details.

NI.[/QUOTE]