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[QUOTE=Spidy;2882722]"State's Rights...baby!" and "State Laws...baby!"...the all but too familiar and [b]often heard battle cry of the Repubs and the conservative SCOTUS[/b], that love to ad nauseam, drone on and on and on, about "State Rights"....that is of course, until it no longer suits their right-wing agenda.[/QUOTE]Yep! Just like they hate "government handouts" unless government handouts benefit global corporations. Then they turn into Marxists in a New York minute or less.
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2882814]I could not be more happy to be more wrong, Spidy. [/QUOTE]Happy to accommodate! But you being WRONG is nothing new. I imagine it fits like an "old hat" for you!
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2882814]Now that you douches are saying it is legal to kick people out of office for just the appearance of being in an insurrection, we can kick out of office anyone associated with the 2020 steal, the future 2024 steal, and anyone involved in the BLM riots or with BLM period. We do not need a trial. We just need the videotape and we can start ignoring the will of the people and election results too.[/QUOTE]
BLM? (...Ugh?) I doubt very much the majority of BLM protestors have ever taken the oath of office before. So nice try, Elvis 2008! (...kkkk!)
BLM...kkkk! Too funny! But, okay I'll play along.
[b]My Top 10 R.E.A.L. people or group of people[/b] to disqualify from office, having previous taken the oath office or service, according to the Sec #3 of the 14th Amendment. And because it's so obvious they knowingly engaged or took part in the J6 insurrection/coup.
[LIST]
[b]1. Trump[/b]
[b]2. 20% of The Republican House[/b] (Jim Jordan, Kevin McCarthy, Matt Gaetz, MTG, Lauren Boebert, Scott Perry, Ralph Norman, Andy Biggs...etc)
[b]3. 10% of The Republican Senate[/b] (Josh Hawley, Lindsey Graham, Amanda Chase...etc
[b]4. Trump Lawyers [/b](Rudolph "Rudy" Giuliani, John Eastman, Jeffery Clark, Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, Jenna Ellis)
[b]5. Trump Advisors[/b] (Mark Meadows, Steve Bannon, Peter Navarro, Kenneth Chesebro)
[b]6. Trump Staffers [/b](Christopher Charles Miller, Johnny McEntee, Steven Miller)
[b]7. RNC Chairs [/b](Ronna McDaniel and other State RNC Chairs and members...etc)
[b]8. Republican fake/fraudster state electors[/b] (AZ, MS, NM, PA and GA)
[b]9. Oath Keepers[/b](Elmar Stewart Rhodes III, What an oxymoron name that is, having sacked the Capital....kkkk!)
[b]10. The Proud Boys[/b] (Enrique Tarrio, Joe Biggs, Ethan Nordean, Zachary Reh ...etc) [/LIST]
Other notables, but may not have previously taken the oath of office/service:[LIST]
Mike Lindell ('Pillow Guy' and 'Cyber Ninja' enthusiast )
Mark Finchem ('Gunsligher Guy') [/LIST]
So before we look at non-insurrectionists groups that DO NOT qualify [i](and really [b]ONLY exist in the minds[/b] of Trumpsters and right-wing lunatic conspiracists),[/i] let's pump the breaks on such nonsense and [u]FIRST disqualify the R.E.A.L. insurrectionists,[/u] according to the 14th Amendment and Section #3.
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2882814]Thing that gets me is the Democrats pull their douche shit first, and Republicans hit back 10 X harder. [/QUOTE] Really! You mean, kinda like when the famous Repub "Red Wave" turned into the [b]infamous "Pink Trickle"?[/b] (...kkkk!)
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2882814]What gets me with you and Tooms Spidy is you are literally cheering on disregarding the vote / will of the people and literally cheering on the weaponization of the legal system. [/QUOTE]
Really? Mind telling me, what Repubs know about the [b]"vote/will of the people"[/b], when your so called wanna be [i](2x impeached, 4x indicted, 91 criminal felony counts) [/i] fascist dictator/Repub leader Trump, is in the very predicament he's in, because he's failed to heed [i]" the voting will of the people",[/i] save some 7 million voters for Biden to the strong.
You do realize, Trump's actions and denial of the election, makes the hypocrisy of your statement as dumfoundedly astonishing, as it is astoundingly bafflling!
[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2882814]You are cheering on verdicts without trials, criminal prosecutions for political purposes, and votes not counting. You are literally tearing up Democracy because you want one party rule. There is no arguing with you two. There is just defeating you.
Now that we know beyond a doubt that is what you Dems really want, one party rule by any means possible, we are going to do all we can to make sure the one party in power is ours.
I keep waiting for one of you to say, "Hey, this is too much", but now I see there is nothing you would not do to win. [/QUOTE]
[b]First[/b] of all, a criminal indictment, prosecution or verdict, is NOT REQUIRED for disqualification under Section #3 of the 14th Amendment.
[b]Second[/b], the lower court of Colorado found enough evidence from Jan 6th Hearings (you'd know this if FOXY Muse, had televised the J6 Hearings) and agreed that Trump [b]did engage in insurrection. [/b]
[b]Third[/b], although this judge kept him on the ballot, the higher Colorado Supreme Court, disqualified him and rightly so, IMHO.
[b]A Colorado judge finds Trump 'engaged in insurrection,' but keeps him on the ballot.[/b]
[url]https://www.npr.org/2023/11/18/1213961050/colorado-judge-finds-trump-engaged-in-insurrection-but-keeps-him-on-ballot[/url]
Now let's see what the "bought-and-paid-for" right-wing conservative SCOTUS do?
[b]Finally[/b], Dems have always (and painfully so, to my chagrin), taken the slow, measured, just and lawful steps, to tie together as much, facts, evidence and findings, to form a solid "air tight" case to elicit criminal charges if that's where the evidence takes them. Unlike the current "clown show", Republican lead House Judiciary Committee.
It has always been about seeking [b]Justice for the Dems[/b] and sadly it has always been about seeking [b]Revenge for the Repubs[/b].
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2882890][b]Ugly right-wing Repub ideology? Stop projecting and read Bret[/b][/QUOTE]No you'd be flat out WRONG!
Projecting (and hypocrisy) is something the you and your fellow Republican cohorts do very well. In fact, PROJECTING (and hypocrisy) is something the [b]Repubs have cornered the market on[/b] and have about a [b]90% share[/b], when is comes to projecting (and hypocrisy).
Take the recent case of the [b]"hypocrite/projecting"[/b] Florida Republican Zielgers, who knowingly were engaging in LGBTQ sex, threesomes and hell-knows, what other sexual depravity they were being hypocrites about, behind closed-doors? Meanwhile in public, they hypocritically called for LGBTQ book bans and blatantly, harmfully and willfully trampled, crushed and devastated the lives of LGBTQ students.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2882890]BTW what do you know about the law besides what you regurgitate from MSNBC? [/QUOTE]Perhaps that question is best answered, if you, MDS1, ask the very same question, while looking in the mirror?
Just remember to substitute "MSNBC" for any one of the number of the right-wing media frauds that you love so much. You know? The ones that lie to you, spread misinformation, ask you to send them money, have $787 million dollar defamation lawsuit for lying to Americans and yet another 30 or more lawsuits, for sexual harassment, wrongful termination, libel, slander and other defamation lawsuits. Yeah, those bogus right-wing media outlets!
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2882890]You jail house lawyers probably know even less than that NON atty in Maine trying to play atty for the news cameras LMAO.
Due to the fact his beast of a wife? That sounds blatantly racist!!
If he was a Democrat and I called her a beast I'm guessing many here would flip the fuck out.
Because it seems you are stating a black man could only get a white wife if she is a nasty beast, is that what you are positing?
you racists are out to destroy Christian White America, one illegal alien at a time
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/what-great-replacement-theory-musk-exposes-immense-growing-size-illegal-immigration
everything you MFers say and do is motivated by your racism towards hetero white Christians [/QUOTE]Well, as for the rest of your post...that's just more [b]90% Republican PROJECTING[/b], again!
Please specify where I mentioned race/color in my post? [u]That is your "hang-up", NOT mine![/u]
No need to [b]"pull the race card"[/b] just yet (save that trick for another day), as race was neither explicitly nor implicitly implied, in my post.
As for Ginni Thomas, I said, [i]"beast of a wife"[/i], simultaneously referring to her figuratively and literally, w/r to her political and dietary [u]greed[/u].
But it is funny though, as you on the other hand, refer to her as [b]"...a nasty beast..."[/b] [i]Please tell me, how exactly is it, you think Ginni Thomas, is "a nasty beast"?[/i]
FYI, today's usage of the word, "beast", is more often than not, seen and used positively. [LIST]For example:
-Four straight in-depth and poignant posts, that address and rebut MAGA Repub nonsense, has put me in "beast mode".
-Ginni Thomas is a beast, when it comes to her position on her J6 insurrection involvement.[/LIST]
[QUOTE=The Cane;2882721]Even if there was no precedent, there's no "precedent" for Donald Trump either. We've never had a president who did what he did. It' all new and we're kind of muddling our way through this. But the shoe fits Trump, so now he has to wear it! And as far as all of the lying in the conservative media, hell FOX "News" (rolling eyes) finally had to own up to its lying to the tune of $800 million dollars, and their own internal communications prove they were lying about stuff and knew they were lying. But here's the kicker. Their loyal audience knows they lie but they don't care so long as the "conservative" media tells them what they want to hear (I put conservative in quotes because these "outfits" do conservatism a great injustice). They (the conservative audience) don't want to know the truth (they can't handle it), and "news outlets" like FOX were eager to serve up the lies to feed their own bottom lines. That is until they got slapped with an $800 million dollar settlement. What's that bottom line look like now? Not as bad as Rudy's LMAO! Another liar! Their all getting theirs. And good! The sweetest will be when Trump finally goes down. He will. Be patient.[/QUOTE]
You put forth some great points and I agree 100% percent, with everything said.
Yes, indeed, for the past several years during the "Trump era" (which I hope I've seen the last of in 2024), we've seen and heard the word [b]"unprecedented"[/b], become part of our lexicon, due large in part to the shenanigans and criminal behavior of the 2x impeached, 4x indicted, 91 criminal felony counts of the 45th.
As for the right-wing conservative media, again your assessment is bang on! I've just said as much in a recent post and have no doubt they'll go back to being lied to in their right-wing "echo-chambers", in no time at all.
I'll tell you what though, [b]my biggest take-away from the "Trump era",[/b] thus far (and probably for the foreseeable future), is that:
[LIST]
[b]One[/b], however small the Republican [b]right-wing "political grift"[/b] was in the past, before the "Trump era"...Trump has blown it up and has placed it on steroids;
AND[/LIST][LIST][b]Two[/b], [u]Trump has set the bar so low[/u], for becoming leader of the Republican party, that it's akin to "blood in the water", and attracted the other wanna be dictators, fascist authoritarians, low-life "sharks", narcissists, self-aggrandizing, self-absorbed, right-wing nutjobs, devoid of any REAL sense of civic duty to the American people;
AND[/LIST][LIST][b]Three[/b], [u]Trump has paved the way,[/u] for every fascist, right-wing grifter, charlatan, two-bit hustler, "no nothing", "know nothing", fraudster, "snake-oil salesman" and wanna be politician-vampire-squid, to take office and suck the life from, the rule of law, the constitution and democracy, all selfishly in pursuant of the grift, for the almighty dollar.[/LIST]
AND there it is, [b]the nihilist cult[/b], that is the inevitable future of the QAnon/MAGA/Repub Party, in a nutshell. (Note: Yes, Repub "caucus" is a play/pun on the word "carcass")
[QUOTE=Spidy;2883067]You put forth some great points and I agree 100% percent, with everything said.
Yes, indeed, for the past several years during the "Trump era" (which I hope I've seen the last of in 2024), we've seen and heard the word [b]"unprecedented"[/b], become part of our lexicon, due large in part to the shenanigans and criminal behavior of the 2x impeached, 4x indicted, 91 criminal felony counts of the 45th.
As for the right-wing conservative media, again your assessment is bang on! I've just said as much in a recent post and have no doubt they'll go back to being lied to in their right-wing "echo-chambers", in no time at all.
I'll tell you what though, [b]my biggest take-away from the "Trump era",[/b] thus far (and probably for the foreseeable future), is that:
[LIST]
[b]One[/b], however small the Republican [b]right-wing "political grift"[/b] was in the past, before the "Trump era"...Trump has blown it up and has placed it on steroids;
AND[/LIST][LIST][b]Two[/b], [u]Trump has set the bar so low[/u], for becoming leader of the Republican party, that it's akin to "blood in the water", and attracted the other wanna be dictators, fascist authoritarians, low-life "sharks", narcissists, self-aggrandizing, self-absorbed, right-wing nutjobs, devoid of any REAL sense of civic duty to the American people;
AND[/LIST][LIST][b]Three[/b], [u]Trump has paved the way,[/u] for every fascist, right-wing grifter, charlatan, two-bit hustler, "no nothing", "know nothing", fraudster, "snake-oil salesman" and wanna be politician-vampire-squid, to take office and suck the life from, the rule of law, the constitution and democracy, all selfishly in pursuant of the grift, for the almighty dollar.[/LIST]
AND there it is, [b]the nihilist cult[/b], that is the inevitable future of the QAnon/MAGA/Repub Party, in a nutshell. (Note: Yes, Repub "caucus" is a play/pun on the word "carcass")[/QUOTE]And unfortunately another part of his legacy will be that we will never see an uncontested election again. Every other defeated president left the office with grace and dignity. Donald is still acting like the narcissistic sociopath he is. He really has made it all about him and not about the country.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2883023]No, there is no evidence that Joe Biden "committed the same crime" as Trump committed or in fact any crime at all regarding classified documents or anything else. See how that works?[/QUOTE]Nope, they both had classified documents where they were not supposed to be. That is the crime. You just bought Biden's bullshit that he didn't knowingly take them when you do not know if he did.
What you are so dumb about though is the average person breaks three laws a day. It is arrogant beyond belief then for you to say one man is innocent and another is guilty without a trial. Prosecutors make decisions about what laws to enforce and they should be apolitical, and we are seeing clearly they are not.
Trump, Hiliary, Mike Pence, and Joe Biden all had classified documents in locations that were not secure, and Trump had the ability to declassify all that he wanted to unlike the other three. Still, that is not the problem.
The issue is not a legal one but a customary one. It is customary to understand that an ex-president has more classified information in his head than ever could be put on paper, and you treat him differently because of that. You should tread even more lightly when he is a likely political opponent. Legally, you can send in a SWAT team to get documents. Hell, a prosecutor could have asked a judge to approve a warrant doing that with any of the pols, and these fucking judges rarely say no especially if you pick the right one. The issue is not legal but the optics. This is more banana republic shit, and you are cheering it on.
You seem to forget the photo of Elian Gonzalez and some federal thug pointing a machine gun at the head of a relative of Elian Gonzalez. Without that photo, Gore probably wins in 2000.
And you guys and your gun control. Yeesh.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2883073]And unfortunately another part of his legacy will be that we will never see an uncontested election again. Every other defeated president left the office with grace and dignity.[/QUOTE]Did JFK leave with grace and dignity? Maybe you buy that bullshit about a lone gunman but when JFK went against the CIA and military industrial complex Ike talked about in his infamous farewell speech, the fact is he wound up dead. The CIA and FBI literally cooked up the term "conspiracy theorist" to use against people who did not buy the government's bullshit explanation.
[QUOTE=Goatscrot;2883073]Donald is still acting like the narcissistic sociopath he is. He really has made it all about him and not about the country.[/QUOTE]I am sorry. I must have missed the #3 guy at the FBI using a phone at taxpayer expense to tell his FBI lover lawyer friend that they were going to stop Trump. He was impeached over a document that was made up and then over a phone call. Then you had Chuck Schumer telling Trump intelligence agencies could get him six ways to Sunday if he went after them.
So when you say Trump has made it all about him, do you mean that the people who voted for him to do not count? Or are they so stupid they do not count?
And when you mean country, do you mean the American people or do you mean the CIA, FBI, and military industrial complex?
In 2016, Hiliary lost because the idiot James Comey wanted to play like the FBI was being fair after letting Hiliary off the hook. He was so sure that she would win he announced a few days before the election she was under investigation. Obviously, it did not work out that one. The bullshit claim that Putin rigged the election and not the FBI was a joke in Republican circles but Dems bought it hook, line, and sinker.
And now here we are in 2024. Trump has a million indictments against him, and he is leading in the polls. And you think this incredible shift in public perception of government institutions all happened because of Trump? Unreal. It is like you Democratic douches are pretending like Russiagate and Ukrainegate and all the government sponsored censorship used and still being used to target Republicans never happened.
"No you'd be flat out wrong!
Projecting (and hypocrisy) is something the you and your fellow Republican cohorts do very well. In fact, projecting (and hypocrisy) is something the Repubs have cornered the market on and have about a 90% share, when is comes to projecting (and hypocrisy).
Take the recent case of the"hypocrite / projecting" Florida Republican Zielgers, who knowingly were engaging in LGBTQ sex, threesomes and hell-knows, what other sexual depravity they were being hypocrites about, behind closed-doors? Meanwhile in public, they hypocritically called for LGBTQ book bans and blatantly, harmfully and willfully trampled, crushed and devastated the lives of LGBTQ students.
Perhaps that question is best answered, if you, MDS1, ask the very same question, while looking in the mirror?
Just remember to substitute "MSNBC" for any one of the number of the right-wing media frauds that you love so much. You know? The ones that lie to you, spread misinformation, ask you to send them money, have $787 million dollar defamation lawsuit for lying to Americans and yet another 30 or more lawsuits, for sexual harassment, wrongful termination, libel, slander and other defamation lawsuits. Yeah, those bogus right-wing media outlets!
Well, as for the rest of your post. That's just more 90% Republican PROJECTING again!
Please specify where I mentioned race / color in my post? That is your "hang-up", NOT mine!
No need to"pull the race card" just yet (save that trick for another day), as race was neither explicitly nor implicitly implied, in my post.
As for Ginni Thomas, I said, "beast of a wife" simultaneously referring to her figuratively and literally, w / are to her political and dietary.
But it is funny though, as you on the other hand, refer to her as ". A nasty beast. "Please tell me, how exactly is it, you think Ginni Thomas, is "a nasty beast"?
FYI, today's usage of the word, "beast", is more often than not, seen and used positively.
For example:
-Four straight in-depth and poignant posts, that address and rebut MAGA Repub nonsense, has put me in "beast mode".
-Ginni Thomas is a beast, when it comes to her position on her J6 insurrection involvement. ".
You're like trying to debate a 5 year old!
NO I'm NOT BUT YOU are.
Just save time and cut and paste that in all your replies LMFAO.
"Did JFK leave with grace and dignity? Maybe you buy that bullshit about a lone gunman but when JFK went against the CIA and military industrial complex Ike talked about in his infamous farewell speech, the fact is he wound up dead. The CIA and FBI literally cooked up the term "conspiracy theorist" to use against people who did not buy the government's bullshit explanation.
I am sorry. I must have missed the #3 guy at the FBI using a phone at taxpayer expense to tell his FBI lover lawyer friend that they were going to stop Trump. He was impeached over a document that was made up and then over a phone call. Then you had Chuck Schumer telling Trump intelligence agencies could get him six ways to Sunday if he went after them.
So when you say Trump has made it all about him, do you mean that the people who voted for him to do not count? Or are they so stupid they do not count?
And when you mean country, do you mean the American people or do you mean the CIA, FBI, and military industrial complex?
In 2016, Hiliary lost because the idiot James Comey wanted to play like the FBI was being fair after letting Hiliary off the hook. He was so sure that she would win he announced a few days before the election she was under investigation. Obviously, it did not work out that one. The bullshit claim that Putin rigged the election and not the FBI was a joke in Republican circles but Dems bought it hook, line, and sinker.
And now here we are in 2024. Trump has a million indictments against him, and he is leading in the polls. And you think this incredible shift in public perception of government institutions all happened because of Trump? Unreal. It is like you Democratic douches are pretending like Russiagate and Ukrainegate and all the government sponsored censorship used and still being used to target Republicans never happened. "
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2883144]Nope, they both [b]had[/b] classified documents where they were not supposed to be. That is the crime. You just bought Biden's bullshit that he didn't knowingly take them when you do not know if he did.
What you are so dumb about though is the average person breaks three laws a day. It is arrogant beyond belief then for you to say one man is innocent and another is guilty without a trial. Prosecutors make decisions about what laws to enforce and they should be apolitical, and we are seeing clearly they are not.
Trump, Hiliary, Mike Pence, and Joe Biden all had classified documents in locations that were not secure, and Trump had the ability to declassify all that he wanted to unlike the other three. Still, that is not the problem.
The issue is not a legal one but a customary one. It is customary to understand that an ex-president has more classified information in his head than ever could be put on paper, and you treat him differently because of that. You should tread even more lightly when he is a likely political opponent. Legally, you can send in a SWAT team to get documents. Hell, a prosecutor could have asked a judge to approve a warrant doing that with any of the pols, and these fucking judges rarely say no especially if you pick the right one. The issue is not legal but the optics. This is more banana republic shit, and you are cheering it on..[/QUOTE]I see my effort to highlight and provide exact definitions for the words and terms in the law in order to prevent a Twisty McPretzel Winger from rewriting the law to serve his criminal Master was for naught.
Merely "having" classified documents in a storage box is not a crime. That is why they don't use the word "had" as a point in the law. The word "retain" is the one they use and for a reason. "Retaining" them (please see the extensive definition of the word I provided previously) despite a request by the National Archives and an issued subpoena to return them was the crime Trump committed but Biden did not. And neither did Obama, Clinton or anyone else who left the Executive Branch with dozens of boxes full of thousands of documents packed by staffers, a tiny portion of which might have turned out to have still been classified. For them, no crime. For Trump, crime.
No doubt about it. You would zoom to the top of Trump's or any Repub's list of candidates for Attorney General in their Administration if only they could read just the post I quoted of yours this time.
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2024/01/02/chinese-state-media-fret-over-rise-far-right-politics-2024/[/URL]
The CCP hates MAGA but I'm sure they still love their cheap Scumbag Joe and the Junkie.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2883275]Merely "having" classified documents in a storage box is not a crime.[/QUOTE]Yes, it is.
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2883275]The word "retain" is the one they use and for a reason. "Retaining" them (please see the extensive definition of the word I provided previously) despite a request by the National Archives and an issued subpoena to return them was the crime Trump committed but Biden did not.[/QUOTE]OMG. Thank you for explaining why I am voting for Trump. We already established that crazy libtards like you Tooms do not care about the vote like with impeachment or with the Supreme Court vote on abortion. Now, we have established that there does not need to be an indictment, a gathering of evidence, a trial with testimony, and a conviction when it comes to Republicans. Trump broke the law and is guilty.
Then you go into your Clntonian pretzel mode with what the definition of is is. The difference between retain and have? Remember the last time you tried this shit? Yeah, Clinton said he did not have sex with that woman. Yeah, oral sex does not count as real sex the same way as retain and have are different too. How did that sex explanation go over?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2883275]"Retaining" them (please see the extensive definition of the word I provided previously) despite a request by the National Archives and an issued subpoena to return them was the crime[/QUOTE]You have the right to not comply with a subpoena, and the government has the right to take it to a judge and turn it into a warrant. Now, you are literally making shit up but what else is new?
[QUOTE=EihTooms;2883275]but Biden did not.[/QUOTE]And who issued the subpoena? I do not recall that at all. The Biden administration issued a subpoena with Biden? LOL. Uh, okay. Maybe it did happen, but that is like me issuing a subpoena on myself.
Here is how it is supposed to work. Government issues a subpoena. You can comply with it or not. You do not have to even tell the government anything. If you do not comply with it, the government has the right to take you to court in which case a judge can convert in it to a warrant. The judge has the right to hold a hearing and discuss the subpoena or just sign off on it and turn it into a warrant. The 4th Amendment dictates that the warrant must "particularly describe the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. " In layman's terms, it has to be limited to time, place, and scope. That is why it was so ridiculous when the FBI went into Melania's closet. Legal? Yes. Ridiculous? Absolutely.
Here is the part you are missing, Mr. Pretzel. There was no hearing. No, the judge was told that Trump might steal or hide the documents and turned the subpoena into a a warrant. If the judge has a hearing and makes a decision, it can be over turned by an appeals court or even the Supreme Court. If the goal were truly getting the documents, that is what should have happened.
The subpoena is sealed. The rationale for seizing the documents is sealed. There is probably some idiotic comment that Trump was going to destroy documents if the subpoena was not enforced to justify not having a hearing. But what was shown? Oh yeah, the media plasters the photo of all the classified documents in Trump's home. Legal? Yes, but the optics are terrible.
When Edward Snowden was stuck in Hong Kong, he said the government would never let him stand trial in a regular courtroom. He said they would use some law from hundreds of years ago and lock him away and if he got a trial, it would be unfair. Snowden was willing to return to the USA and stand trial with a citizen jury. He was charged under the Espionage Act and was slated to face a military tribunal if he returned to the USA. IOW, he was totally right.
And now what are we seeing? Trump is disqualified on a law made up to keep confederates off the ballot. And Biden wanted General Flynn prosecuted under a law from the 1780's. FARA, another law never used before, was used to go after Manafort. And we saw the same bullshit tactics with Roger Stone.
So is this about breaking the law or is this a political conviction? Well, the public made up its mind once it was found Biden had classified documents in his garage. You Democratic douches can give your patronizing diatribes about how it is different, but the only one listening to you is your fellow douches.
The icing on the cake was the video I linked where the prosecutor is pushing like hell to have a trial before the election, and we keep seeing this. A huge part of the legal system is hell bent on not letting the American people vote for Trump by finding Trump guilty of a crime any crime. And when getting an actual conviction seemed more and more unlikely, they pulled the 14th Amendment crap.
So spare me this nonsense about the law. It is about the fact that you all are scared shitless that Trump might win again. At this point, a vote for Trump is a vote against the deep state that wants to take the choice of president away from the American people.
Instead of making better arguments, Democratic douches want to censor people. Instead of winning at the ballot box, you all scour every legal source to disqualify someone. You douches literally do not want the vote to count if Republicans win and want one party rule. You want a dictatorship run by Democrats.
[QUOTE=MarquisdeSade1;2883282][URL]https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2024/01/02/chinese-state-media-fret-over-rise-far-right-politics-2024/[/URL]
The CCP hates MAGA but I'm sure they still love their cheap Scumbag Joe and the Junkie.[/QUOTE]Obviously, CCP knows about and is banking on anti-CCP sentiment to ensure that comment will be an incentive for dumb Repub hillbillies to vote for "Make sure I win" Trump and other Repubs.
Seriously, when our intel agencies discover evidence that Russia, China and any other adversaries and enemies of America are interfering and tampering with America's elections, is there any reason to waste so much as 1 minute wondering which side they were hoping would benefit from it? Lolol. It sure as hell isn't going to be Joe Biden and the Dems. LOL. And it sure as hell wasn't Hillary Clinton.
Oh, lookie lookie here! Isn't this what ChristoFacist Mike and his Pink Tinkle House Repubs are trying to find a way to Impeach President Hunter Biden for while they do fuck all nothing about Comprehensive Immigration Reform and lick their chops over the prospects of still another Ecomomy-Damaging Repub brinkmanship threat of a government shut-down?
Yep, no surprise. It turns out China / CCP was Trump's biggest graft, pay-offs and bribery source during his so-called presidency:
[B]Trumps Businesses Got Millions From Foreign Governments While He Was President.
Democrats say Trump violated Constitution by accepting at least $7.8 million from China, Saudi Arabia and other countries for leases and hotel stays.
Jan. 4, 2024[/B]
[URL]https://www.wsj.com/politics/china-saudi-arabia-top-list-of-foreign-governments-that-spent-millions-at-trump-properties-during-his-presidency-277317cb[/URL]
[QUOTE]WASHINGTONChina and Saudi Arabia topped a list of 20 countries whose governments or state-linked entities pumped millions of dollars into Donald Trumps properties while he was president, according to a new report and previously undisclosed records that shed light on Trumps potential business conflicts as he seeks a second term.[/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2024/01/04/john-lennons-son-rebrands-diversity-equity-and-inclusion-as-dumb-evil-idiots/[/URL]