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Took a bored stroll through the Centro. A lot of casas around Cra 45, but all were pretty shitty. Aiffe right now is in a downswing, maybe two fuckable young ones and they aren't that appetizing. Quality is in a real lull there. Conversely New Life has their best lineup in sometime, maybe a couple years even. I would say there are two that anyone would be excited to bang and another half dozen that would at least hit your radar. Now is a good time to go and check it out before they have a bunch of turnover. The Centro strip clubs, eh, lot of veteranas in all of them. Cute 19 year old Joanna (not sure her stage name) , mocha cutie at La Barra Ejecutiva plus one or two other presentable ones. Bar Maracaibo was a pretty much a disaster like usual. There is a skinny chick that hangs in front of those clubs, her name is Angie. She works independently. She is not the most beautiful girl (pretty average, thin, not much body) but she has a cool attitude and is willing to do anything if you ask nicely. If you're bored, take her for a spin. 30K-50K pesos for FS and as I said she aims to please.

[QUOTE=LookingToSwing4;1532493]While I enjoyed Lima, I was there for more for tourist reasons (I. E. Machu Picchu, Cuzco, etc.). But I have to agree with you, the prices when I did partake were far too high for my liking. And since I was heading to Medellin for a week on the end of that trip, I struggled paying higher prices for the same Colombianas I would get for half the price the next week. IMHO, the Colombianas in the Lima clubs were by far the hottest and most worth taking home. I never did partake in David's services, so I cannot comment. However, I have many friends who have and swear by the selection of university hotties he can connect you with for far more reasonable prices. Not sure if he is still assisting like that.[/QUOTE]His pink pages are still full, he is a real ass dude who makes nothing from the service yet arranges it like a pro. I tried to see a lot of other things but rarely partook, his friends were all a lot of fun/

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1532499]I'll offer one more reason to learn at least a little Spanish- it give your girl a modicum of control. You may not think this important, but women totally dig being needed and being in the power position of teacher. Needing help with your spanish gives you a whole arena of things to talk about with that hottie- stop trying to schmooze with your NYC A-game and take advantage of her need to nurture your dumb, hardly-spanish speaking ass. Women love men who are helpless in areas they're strong- have you ever asked a chick how to cook something or how you sew something? They're all over it- same with language. I've gotten more pussy playing dumb than trying to out-suave the local suavecitos. They love it. Play to your strengths- sometimes being a dumb gringo can pay dividends, as long as it's not a dumb, rude gringo. Nobody likes an asshole.[/QUOTE]IMO a girl would much rather be able to have a normal conversation with you than nurture you and try and teach you spanish.

Girls, and most definitely latinas, love to talk and tell you their hopes, dreams, desires, etc.

I agree with not trying to out-suave the local suavecitos. Just be cool, friendly, and respectful, and of course speak the lingo.

I don't think many girls are really going to be turned on because they want to nurture your fumbling spanish, however, if it's worked for you, that's great.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1532584]Girls, and most definitely latinas, love to talk and tell you their hopes, dreams, desires, etc.

I don't think many girls are really going to be turned on because they want to nurture your fumbling spanish, however, if it's worked for you, that's great.[/QUOTE]I agree. I remember in my early days how annoyed a chica would look after rambling on about something for almost a minute, only to hear me say "lo siento, pero no entiendo".

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1532530]His pink pages are still full, he is a real ass dude who makes nothing from the service yet arranges it like a pro. I tried to see a lot of other things but rarely partook, his friends were all a lot of fun/[/QUOTE]Who is this David in Lima? Some local legendary monger? How does one get hold of him?

TIA

[QUOTE=Concarne; 1532647]Who is this David in Lima? Some local legendary monger? How does one get hold of him?

TIA[/QUOTE]Go to the ISG Peru Forum and click on the link to David 33's Peru Forum.

Ask him Aussie Greg wants to know how his salsa dancing lessons are going!

AG.

[QUOTE=Mr Jetsetter;1532656]Go to the ISG Peru Forum and click on the link to David 33's Peru Forum.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1532584]IMO a girl would much rather be able to have a normal conversation with you than nurture you and try and teach you spanish.

Girls, and most definitely latinas, love to talk and tell you their hopes, dreams, desires, etc.

I agree with not trying to out-suave the local suavecitos. Just be cool, friendly, and respectful, and of course speak the lingo.

I don't think many girls are really going to be turned on because they want to nurture your fumbling spanish, however, if it's worked for you, that's great.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying it's better than speaking fluent Spanish, I"m saying go with what you have. If you don't speak it, enlist her nurturing instinct to help you get better. They do love playing that role. Women also use situations like that as a forum to talk nonstop while you throw in an occasional and enthusiastic,"Claro!" And hell, if you've got the language and the game, give the local boys hell! The point is, if you can't speak well but have a little Spanish you can use that to your advantage instead of simply letting it be a liability.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1532584]IMO a girl would much rather be able to have a normal conversation with you than nurture you and try and teach you spanish.

Girls, and most definitely latinas, love to talk and tell you their hopes, dreams, desires, etc.

I agree with not trying to out-suave the local suavecitos. Just be cool, friendly, and respectful, and of course speak the lingo.

I don't think many girls are really going to be turned on because they want to nurture your fumbling spanish, however, if it's worked for you, that's great.[/QUOTE]True true Parcero Ricker. All very true and good stuff.

Rule number one is money talks and bull shit walks. Truth be told you can't compete with the local Papicito. He's young, funny, can sing all her favorite salsa or reagetone songs with her, dance and is not 20+ years older than she is. She wants to be with him. But she needs to be with you! There exceptions so let's not start the usual "gringo abuelo vs young gringo" argument this boards loves to mutate into. Enjoy the girl, show some respect and consideration and you'll be all set. For example a few months back Dude X was like "So and So chica wanted $___ to bang in the AM after we agreed on $___ for TLN. I woke her up at 6AM after drinking all night and she was cranky. The nerve of her!" Or some shit like that.

Good example of get a clue bro. She's a working girl but she's also a person. If dude would have just let the day play out I'm almost certain things would have played out better. Think on it. When are you yourself ever happily woken up at 6AM for anything?

Also if you're know to only do the bare min. $150-$200 ST with maybe $5K for a cab and the next guy is willing to pony up $20k for a round trip who you think she going to come running to? This leads back to one of my mantras that I've been blasting on 11 (spinal tap. Watch it!) for ages. Do not be cheap!

Just to keep it short as Ricker said "Just be cool, friendly, and respectful, and of course speak the lingo." & my two cents "Don't be cheap of wallet or spirit".

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1532584]IMO a girl would much rather be able to have a normal conversation with you than nurture you and try and teach you spanish.

Girls, and most definitely latinas, love to talk and tell you their hopes, dreams, desires, etc.

I agree with not trying to out-suave the local suavecitos. Just be cool, friendly, and respectful, and of course speak the lingo.

I don't think many girls are really going to be turned on because they want to nurture your fumbling spanish, however, if it's worked for you, that's great.[/QUOTE]It's not an opinion, but a fact, that you will further with the girls, especially non-pros, if you are fluent in Spanish. These girls grow tired of gringos who talk baby talk Spanish. They want someone they can bring around their friends and family without feeling embarrassed to have a grown ass man speaking baby talk to them. They also love to joke, enjoy their music and the lyrics. Learn a lot of latin songs, especially baladas romanticas, and its a done deal. Many many colombianas have confessed to me that gringos who can't speak Spanish well is a big turn off. Just view that video that was posted early, of the Travel Bum, and see how he struck out with his baby talk Spanish.

There used to be a segment on a Medellin radio station in the mornings, that did a routine, making fun of gringos and the way they spoke baby talk spanish. Again, there might be some desperate girls who will put up with it, and of course the mansion girls and others will, due to the money aspect.

And it's not a matter of trying to be suave, that's ridiculous. But its a matter of being yourself, having fun and communicating on an intelligent level.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1532768]True true Parcero Ricker. All very true and good stuff.

Rule number one is money talks and bull shit walks. Truth be told you can't compete with the local Papicito. He's young, funny, can sing all her favorite salsa or reagetone songs with her, dance and is not 20+ years older than she is. She wants to be with him. But she needs to be with you! There exceptions so let's not start the usual "gringo abuelo vs young gringo" argument this boards loves to mutate into. Enjoy the girl, show some respect and consideration and you'll be all set. For example a few months back Dude X was like "So and So chica wanted $___ to bang in the AM after we agreed on $___ for TLN. I woke her up at 6AM after drinking all night and she was cranky. The nerve of her!" Or some shit like that..[/QUOTE]It really doesn't seem that we're in disagreement. I only suggested that, if your skills are lacking you can adapt alternate strategies that could serve you well. Of course, being young, rich, charismatic, local, handsome and in possession of a great big schwantztücher never hurts.

I think everybody is different and enjoy life in a different way. Some dudes like just to bang the chic and don't have any problem with zero communication or exchange of words, that is cool if you like it, some others need some "human" touch, faked or real, that is cool also.

I can talk just for myself, I like to communicate, I like to laugh and move her a little bit if is possible, even just for a short friendship, I try to talk the language but is impossible to learn all the different languages from all the countries I have been at. English is an amazing tool of communication, we are lucky we speak it. But there were sometimes I wish I could speak the native language. I have lost soo many opportunities with so many stunning girls. So for me learning a foreign language is important. I can kind of talk or understand several but is not ever enough. Languages are so awesome, open a new horizon en perceptive of the culture and richness of any country, unfortunately I'm not an Eisenstein but it would be very cool.

Well, now can we talk about girls? That we can do it in English =)

[QUOTE=WiltTheStilt;1532528]Took a bored stroll through the Centro. A lot of casas around Cra 45, but all were pretty shitty. Aiffe right now is in a downswing, maybe two fuckable young ones and they aren't that appetizing. Quality is in a real lull there. Conversely New Life has their best lineup in sometime, maybe a couple years even. I would say there are two that anyone would be excited to bang and another half dozen that would at least hit your radar. Now is a good time to go and check it out before they have a bunch of turnover. The Centro strip clubs, eh, lot of veteranas in all of them. Cute 19 year old Joanna (not sure her stage name) , mocha cutie at La Barra Ejecutiva plus one or two other presentable ones. Bar Maracaibo was a pretty much a disaster like usual. There is a skinny chick that hangs in front of those clubs, her name is Angie. She works independently. She is not the most beautiful girl (pretty average, thin, not much body) but she has a cool attitude and is willing to do anything if you ask nicely. If you're bored, take her for a spin. 30K-50K pesos for FS and as I said she aims to please.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro, not much has changed then, casas and cheap bars still short of talent but is very understandable and not a surprise, their prices are very cheap for us, But locals with very low income have to have some fun also, So there is a very long future for those places, but as we said many times before, hot chics won't concentrate there, fun to explore tough, an eventual lost gem can be found with a lot of luck. Bro thanks for up dating. One of the few useful reports lately.

Overall I thought the talent was OK, like I said New Life has gotten a shot in the arm and the other places had plenty of passable values. Centro strip joints always get chickenhawked by the bigger players, a lot of girls at the more expensive clubs cut their teeth and the Barra and places like that. At this point I just take passes when I am bored, I have a nice little set of regulars and modest stream of non-pros though I admit sometimes I'm a bit lazy for that.

As far as Spanish goes, why even limit yourself? Are you going to become some Latin poet? No, but you can find yourself in another language. Certainly the humor of a North American is a lot more sophisticated than that of your average Colombian. You can be funny, you can charming. Don't think you're just getting by, have some fun with it.

I think the logic behind learning / improving Spanish varies alot depending on how much time one spends in L. America. For a lot of guys that do a week or two a year, I don't think there's much sense in putting in lots of effort learning the language. OTOH, for guys that spend significant time there, it does make sense.

I do have to mention that I did several trips to Brasil over the years and despite speaking next to no Portugues, I had the best mongering experiences of my life. Also did Thailand a few times speaking no Thai, and I enjoyed it very much.

I do speak good Spanish now. But every time I visit Colombia or the DR, I meet plenty of fellow mongers that don't speak the language at all. And they seem like they are having a fantastic time. Could they have a better time if they spoke more Spanish? Most likely, but it may or may not be worth their time to learn more. Also have to consider that most USA guys have a difficult time picking up languages.

Hell, CubaDave has been to the DR, Cuba, and CR hundreds of times and he speaks very little Spanish. Yet he seems to have a great time.