East China - Shanghai

So having a bit of experience with aish123 by now, I must say it always feels a bit risky before going to meet up, but once in the game, I have nothing yet to be worried about.

The quality of service and providers vary a lot, but going for the more expensive ones, doesn't mean better service or beauty for that matter.

There's a lot of agents roaming the site offering KB or special massage services in spa like venues, girls tend to be higher quality, tall, slim and big fake boobs. Most of these are not FS, but for generous tips, anything is possible. If you treat the girls nicely, they will share contact and offer out-of-site service.

Apartment situation is crazy and very different. Some girls rent their own place, have an agent get them clients and will typically stay in SH for a few months, then go home and come again. Other girls are sharing apartments with multiple girls, some in very dodgy places and these seem very risky. Both for LE and the much dreaded interruption by a gang of collectors / thugs. These are also usually places for a quick in-out session.

So all in all, I would recommend providers who have their own place, potentially with one roommate, in a decent location / compound. You get the full package plus extras if you are good to the girl. Also the option of inviting the roommate in for some extra fun, is always interesting.

I have an established portfolio of around 10 girls I frequent now, which is nice and free of hassle. I simply shot them a message with a time and bum, in for an hour or two of good fun and relaxation.

[QUOTE=DopeyMopey;2535462]So I visited Judy's for the first time. Talent wasn't that high until nearly midnight when these three girls walked in, super beautiful face, super tits and skinny. Would definitely take them next time but I was too drunk to have a session. Through the night I felt sorry for some older ladies circulating the tables, they ain't going to compete against the younger, fun big titted girls. Music was alright, I'd say about 10 girls were working. I was approached by three, the rest were working hard to sell their ware to groups.

Not related to Judy's, I met an indi, first spinner I found in Shanghai. Cute face, she was petite, about 1. 55 m, skinny and super cute. Will definitely see again, but she wants more client. Lives far out of Shanghai so you need to pay cab fare. If you're interested, PM me. I would recommend but she is delicate, please treat her kindly.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Would you mind sharing the indie contact please?

Double post, deleted this.

Go there at your own risk.

There is a bar on the corner of Judy's on the same street and side of Manhattan. It's blues bar, but there are two confusingly, the one on the left has many ladies, about 8 ready. The right one too, but I didn't go in. I was tempted by the quality and went into the left one on the corner, turns out I was the only customer at the time, around midnight. The madame was very charming and convinced me to have a good time in the room above, of course I was too gullible and let my dick lead. I was in Manhattan and saw many great talents that were quickly snapped up by 11. The upstairs Judy's at the end of the road was dead (there are two judys! I wanted some action and accepted this offer foolishly. I was also greedy and asked for two ladies, one is 1500, but had a discount with two.

Be wary because you will be asked to pay first, and also to buy them all a drink for good luck. I was just a fool, and did so because I was enjoying the attention. Fuck. The madame was hot and very charming, she will phrase the service in a certain way and promise you honesty. There's a room upstairs, dark, and next to toilet, they started haggling the moment I sat down, they claim to have no condom and wanted me to buy alcoholic drinks so they can clean my dick for a BJ. They wanted two drinks each, and a third girl joined in to try to get me to pay more. I refused, and at the end agreed two drinks so they can just BBBJ me and I can go. It took a lot of refusals, it wasn't fun anymore. Eventually, they did do it and both did BBBJ, the smaller one did CIM. They let me play with their tits and suck it, but didn't like the fingering, lots of moaning, but at the end. It was about 40 mins (not an hour) and cost me a LOT of money.

I feel shitty not been laid and its an expensive lesson. I hope you read this and next time, anyone going between Manhattan and Judy's, avoid the temptation of going into the corner blue bar. Of course you can go and drink but do it at your own risk. Please take my advise and make me feel less shitty about this experience. Just. Don't go in there!

They were smart and I was dumb, fucking hard lesson to learn.

Dudewithmoney, you only have one post. Can't message you.

[QUOTE=DopeyMopey;2538032]Go there at your own risk.

There is a bar on the corner of Judy's on the same street and side of Manhattan. It's blues bar, but there are two confusingly, the one on the left has many ladies, about 8 ready. The right one too, but I didn't go in. I was tempted by the quality and went into the left one on the corner, turns out I was the only customer at the time, around midnight. The madame was very charming and convinced me to have a good time in the room above, of course I was too gullible and let my dick lead. I was in Manhattan and saw many great talents that were quickly snapped up by 11. The upstairs Judy's at the end of the road was dead (there are two judys! I wanted some action and accepted this offer foolishly. I was also greedy and asked for two ladies, one is 1500, but had a discount with two.

Be wary because you will be asked to pay first, and also to buy them all a drink for good luck. I was just a fool, and did so because I was enjoying the attention. Fuck. The madame was hot and very charming, she will phrase the service in a certain way and promise you honesty. There's a room upstairs, dark, and next to toilet, they started haggling the moment I sat down, they claim to have no condom and wanted me to buy alcoholic drinks so they can clean my dick for a BJ. They wanted two drinks each, and a third girl joined in to try to get me to pay more. I refused, and at the end agreed two drinks so they can just BBBJ me and I can go. It took a lot of refusals, it wasn't fun anymore. Eventually, they did do it and both did BBBJ, the smaller one did CIM. They let me play with their tits and suck it, but didn't like the fingering, lots of moaning, but at the end. It was about 40 mins (not an hour) and cost me a LOT of money.

I feel shitty not been laid and its an expensive lesson. I hope you read this and next time, anyone going between Manhattan and Judy's, avoid the temptation of going into the corner blue bar. Of course you can go and drink but do it at your own risk. Please take my advise and make me feel less shitty about this experience. Just. Don't go in there!

They were smart and I was dumb, fucking hard lesson to learn.

Dudewithmoney, you only have one post. Can't message you.[/QUOTE]Don't feel too bad. Any of us who has spent a lot of time in China have been pulled into this kind of scam. Some of us have fallen for this kind of crap more than once. Life is full of lessons. Your only stupid if you never learn from your mistakes. Take care and good hunting!

[QUOTE=AggieDad1;2538051]Don't feel too bad. Any of us who has spent a lot of time in China have been pulled into this kind of scam. Some of us have fallen for this kind of crap more than once. Life is full of lessons. Your only stupid if you never learn from your mistakes. Take care and good hunting![/QUOTE]Thanks dude, still gutted about this shit. I had a switch before, my first outcalls was a switch and bait, since then I was scammed at hotel spas, but normally not by that much because the service wasn't worth it. This is the first time I had to part with this much money, it's pretty shit because usually I'm good at avoiding this but I was eager to get laid after some hotties were taken by 11 in Manhattan, so anyone wanting to get the good gals, head there by 10, that's what I'm doing next time. Stay safe.

Any recommendations for Sunday evening?

DM, I got burned a bunch too. My biggest mistake cost me and my friend about 15,000 RMB. Another time, it cost me and my SAME friend about 10,000 RMB. Each time, it involved being overcharged for drinks for the bar girls in some sleezy bar.

Thanks for the warning. This is the best way to get them back, which is to make sure they don't keep ripping off a bunch of people.

[QUOTE=DopeyMopey;2538032]Go there at your own risk.

There is a bar on the corner of Judy's on the same street and side of Manhattan. It's blues bar, but there are two confusingly, the one on the left has many ladies, about 8 ready. The right one too, but I didn't go in. I was tempted by the quality and went into the left one on the corner, turns out I was the only customer at the time, around midnight. The madame was very charming and convinced me to have a good time in the room above, of course I was too gullible and let my dick lead. I was in Manhattan and saw many great talents that were quickly snapped up by 11. The upstairs Judy's at the end of the road was dead (there are two judys! I wanted some action and accepted this offer foolishly. I was also greedy and asked for two ladies, one is 1500, but had a discount with two.

Be wary because you will be asked to pay first, and also to buy them all a drink for good luck. I was just a fool, and did so because I was enjoying the attention. Fuck. The madame was hot and very charming, she will phrase the service in a certain way and promise you honesty. There's a room upstairs, dark, and next to toilet, they started haggling the moment I sat down, they claim to have no condom and wanted me to buy alcoholic drinks so they can clean my dick for a BJ. They wanted two drinks each, and a third girl joined in to try to get me to pay more. I refused, and at the end agreed two drinks so they can just BBBJ me and I can go. It took a lot of refusals, it wasn't fun anymore. Eventually, they did do it and both did BBBJ, the smaller one did CIM. They let me play with their tits and suck it, but didn't like the fingering, lots of moaning, but at the end. It was about 40 mins (not an hour) and cost me a LOT of money.

I feel shitty not been laid and its an expensive lesson. I hope you read this and next time, anyone going between Manhattan and Judy's, avoid the temptation of going into the corner blue bar. Of course you can go and drink but do it at your own risk. Please take my advise and make me feel less shitty about this experience. Just. Don't go in there!

They were smart and I was dumb, fucking hard lesson to learn.

Dudewithmoney, you only have one post. Can't message you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Midwestern;2538443]DM, I got burned a bunch too. My biggest mistake cost me and my friend about 15,000 RMB. Another time, it cost me and my SAME friend about 10,000 RMB. Each time, it involved being overcharged for drinks for the bar girls in some sleezy bar.

Thanks for the warning. This is the best way to get them back, which is to make sure they don't keep ripping off a bunch of people.[/QUOTE]Holy cowshit, that's fucking awful. I guess that's why I write these mistakes so other don't make them too. Plus I'd feel better. They sit by the window to tempt you, it's right opposite Judy's, so yeh be warned. Amen brother, stay safe.

[QUOTE=DopeyMopey;2538032]Go there at your own risk. There is a bar on the corner of Judy's on the same street and side of Manhattan. It's blues bar, but there are two confusingly, the one on the left has many ladies, about 8 ready. The right one too, but I didn't go in. I was tempted by the quality and went into the left one on the corner, turns out I was the only customer at the time, around midnight. The madame was very charming and convinced me to have a good time in the room above, of course I was too gullible and let my dick lead. I was in Manhattan and saw many great talents that were quickly snapped up by 11. The upstairs Judy's at the end of the road was dead (there are two judys! I wanted some action and accepted this offer foolishly. I was also greedy and asked for two ladies, one is 1500, but had a discount with two.
[/QUOTE]Manhattan used to be on Tongren Lu, and there was a hostess bar on the corner, I believe called Blue Sky, so I thought that was the place you were talking about. The girls would gang up on you and try to get you to buy them drinks, but it wasn't a rip-off place. I met and took home a nice bargirl from there once.

I went searching for Manhattan and read this on Manhattam, "One of Shanghai's oldest bars, which used to be on Tongren Lu before that street was cleaned up. Manhattan remains popular with that Tongren Lu type of crowd. How do we put this. It's very popular with foreign men and friendly Filipino, Thai and Vietnamese girls. Drinks are a little pricey but it can be a fun, hectic place to people-watch. Place stays busy every night of the week. ".

[QUOTE=OneEyedMan;2538732]Manhattan used to be on Tongren Lu, and there was a hostess bar on the corner, I believe called Blue Sky, so I thought that was the place you were talking about. The girls would gang up on you and try to get you to buy them drinks, but it wasn't a rip-off place. I met and took home a nice bargirl from there once.

I went searching for Manhattan and read this on Manhattam, "One of Shanghai's oldest bars, which used to be on Tongren Lu before that street was cleaned up. Manhattan remains popular with that Tongren Lu type of crowd. How do we put this. It's very popular with foreign men and friendly Filipino, Thai and Vietnamese girls. Drinks are a little pricey but it can be a fun, hectic place to people-watch. Place stays busy every night of the week. ".[/QUOTE]Hmmm not sure about Manhattan, haven't been around long. The place I went to, I took picture of below. The drinks are ripoff and in hindsight they could have poured themselves water, when I bought them drinks. The prices are definitely steep, and yeh, you're likely to get scammed by their smart wording, blaming on language barrier.

[QUOTE=DopeyMopey;2538055]Thanks dude, still gutted about this shit. I had a switch before, my first outcalls was a switch and bait, since then I was scammed at hotel spas, but normally not by that much because the service wasn't worth it. This is the first time I had to part with this much money, it's pretty shit because usually I'm good at avoiding this but I was eager to get laid after some hotties were taken by 11 in Manhattan, so anyone wanting to get the good gals, head there by 10, that's what I'm doing next time. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]Don't feel so bad. I was once promised proper FS in a room, the lady claimed rooms are full and asked to do the deed in the waiting room on the sofa, no bed. I did and out goes the lady in comes a guy says the rate I paid was for lady, and I had to pay another 400 for the room and threatened me with violence. It was in a high rise apartment building so I was pretty far from any help. Had 110 ready to dial on my phone and started to walk to elevator, 2 guys were holding elevator door preventing me from leaving, I said I would pay 100 for the room otherwise I dial 110 we all go to police and threw 100 bill out from the elevator, close the door and left while they picked up the bill from ground. Close call. Hate those fucking scammers. In China it's about go in numbers. If 10 guys were to go together, they won't dare do anything.

I went to this massage place. I got in a busy day: a little bureaucratic to go in (need to speak Chinese) and 45 min waiting the girls to free up. Found girl 869 free, very beautiful and petit style. Give me a good massage and HJ. I was charged $998.

I thinking this is expensive for a HJ, appreciate if anyone can share intel about cheaper venues around the JingAn area.

[QUOTE=Daweiwang88;2539214]Don't feel so bad. I was once promised proper FS in a room, the lady claimed rooms are full and asked to do the deed in the waiting room on the sofa, no bed. I did and out goes the lady in comes a guy says the rate I paid was for lady, and I had to pay another 400 for the room and threatened me with violence. It was in a high rise apartment building so I was pretty far from any help. Had 110 ready to dial on my phone and started to walk to elevator, 2 guys were holding elevator door preventing me from leaving, I said I would pay 100 for the room otherwise I dial 110 we all go to police and threw 100 bill out from the elevator, close the door and left while they picked up the bill from ground. Close call. Hate those fucking scammers. In China it's about go in numbers. If 10 guys were to go together, they won't dare do anything.[/QUOTE]Holy crap, did you get the contact from those Chinese site? They all very and no way to tell if it's safe or not. Good to know you escaped.

Just a couple of personal reviews.

I've been a regular, since years, of the spring on Wanping lu. Unfortunately but not surprisingly, it has suffered the same decay than any other place in the city. I used to enjoy young, friendly and easy-to-play-with girls some four or five years ago. They overcame a renovation right and reopened vegan right before covid, just to get back to business recently, but the quality is just not the same. Girls are much less cute, older, and don't give a fuck, no giggles and playing around anymore. The good thing is that at least you are provided a fantastic oil massage plus HJ without tip, but before they would let you play with them, and now they wouldn't unless there's extra paying. This said, there is one, whose number I could share, who would give you FS on the spot and would moan her lungs out. The regular price is 498, and the tip for FS would normally go up to 1 - 1,5 k. The good thing is she is young, fresh, sexy and hot as no other in the place. And she would visit you out of the place if you get along with her.

Besides, I recently visited a place after a friend recommended. It's on the 4th floor on a hotel on Jianguo xi lu right by the corner with Huashan lu. I wouldn't go again. I did find an extremely cute and hot young girl, but the regular massage price is 698, plus she would only give you HJ for an extra 300. Not worth it.