Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=MichaelSamuel;1930545]2nd floor mitu. Had best nuru / body slide I have ever had, granted, probably only sampling from 12 times, but she was clearly trained and the gel was better than what other places call nuru. Air mattress was solid and 2 rounds on that never even made it to bed.[/QUOTE]Do you really understand difference between ground floor and 2nd floor. Is it just a different price for more skilled girls? Or better looking girls? Or extra things available like anal? Any insights?

How wouuld you rate your girl for looks or was that not the most important thing?

The Thai receptionist on ground floor did not seem to be willing to spell out every detail even I could speak Thai very well. She dealt more in vagueness. She did suggest upstairs girls cost more and were more skilled. Skills is not necessarily the most important thing for me. More so chemistry looks and fun.

I never had any problems with the nuru gel. In most places it holds together a little bit like egg white and is slippery like egg white. Also if gets in your mouth no problem. Does not taste bad.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1930518]The shop was called "New Massage" I can remember the girls real name but her working name is escaping me at present. She wasn't that keen to use it. She could not use her real nickname due to another girl already using that name in same Shop.

I got her LINE contact which of course is not showing her working name.

I suggest having a look at line ups of both New Massage and Dream Heaven next to each other and see if any girl looks really great to your taste. I know plenty of others have different taste to me.

Also YMMV with the girl performance. It is very important to make the girl feel like it is going to be a fun session rather than hard work. Then can get the best GFE she will give if the two of you click.

It is not about service for me. Its about having a fun time and making the girl relaxed and even horny.

Anyway girl was normal black Thai hair with slim but curvy figure all natural no baby. No more than 160 cm. I have not yet checked if they have a web site. The dress was open at front showing good sized tits in a bra.

I don't even have phone number for the shop. It will hard to search on web for New Massage.

Love Teen also appeared to have one cutie sitting out the front. Love Teen seems to have moved to other side of the road a bit closer to Sukhumvit and New Massage is located where Love Teen used to be next to Dream Heaven. As my girl moved from Dream Heaven to New Massage, they may have same owner.

I just recalled there is finger in asshole service for customers who want that. I don't take that. One of her fingers had a shorter nail. I prefer to do the fingering.

I did find the web site:
[url]http://newmassages.com/store[/url]

I see Anna Cherry hair is shown but my girl does not seem to be pictured or named. Anna looks like her pic reasonably well but has bigger tits now. Implants. I don't really recognise the other girls. Can't say if they were there ir if photoshopping makes them different. I suppose my girl looks similar to Ms Ning but I don't recognise as being the correct girl. So probably just similar look.

Note not all girls pictured actually work in shops. Sometimes the girl may have left the shop long ago but still pictured. I was told Wine in Dream Heaven left there several months ago.[/QUOTE]Syzygies,

I would also like to know which girl that was, since so nice service as you described it is what most of us dream of! If you can't remember her working name, you might take a look at their website and tell us if she is among the pictures? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1930518]

I just recalled there is finger in asshole service for customers who want that. I don't take that. One of her fingers had a shorter nail. I prefer to do the fingering.

[/QUOTE]So did she let you finger her arse?

[QUOTE=*****man;1930638]So did she let you finger her arse?[/QUOTE]I did not try to put in there as she did not ask for it. There was no hint that her ass was available in any way. She was not scared of me touching her asshole though or finger gently in the pussy during DATY. I did not try to go too far not expecting her to be porno type girl.

I think this is the right place to go for guys liking GFE but not for exotic porno services. I could be wrong but the girl already said she does not go well with demanding customers. She is better for those just looking for a really sweet girl with good body.

[QUOTE=*****man;1930638]So did she let you finger her arse?[/QUOTE]Are you just shit -stirring, man?

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1930674]

I think this is the right place to go for guys liking GFE but not for exotic porno services. [/QUOTE]Could you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by GFE / Girl Friend Experience in this context? I see this term bandied about on boards like this one but suspect in most cases it doesn't mean much more than one's subjective opinion about a girl who, I don't know, smiles more often than scowls during the session, goes slower and with some modicum of artistry rather than fast and mechanical, something like that. But I could be wrong. Maybe the term is indeed referring to the kind of sex most of us would expect from our real girl friend? But somehow I seriously doubt that really is the case.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1930755]Are you just shit -stirring, man?[/QUOTE]Why would you give a perfectly reasonable response to a perfectly reasonable question and then come out with that four hours later?

Or was it a joke that putting a finger in a girl's arse is 'shit stirring'? I find that as long you don't put it in too deep your finger will remain clean enough.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1930791]Could you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by GFE / Girl Friend Experience in this context?[/QUOTE]Individually defined; but IMO and briefly:

GFE = good attitude, kissing / DFK, some genuine passion and engagement, allowing herself to become stimulated, no significant stop signs.

PSE = basically the above plus raunchy kinky stuff like: aggressive style boom-boom, dirty talk / role play, toys, COF / CIM, A+.

SL.

[QUOTE=*****man;1930828]Why would you give a perfectly reasonable response to a perfectly reasonable question and then come out with that four hours later?

Or was it a joke that putting a finger in a girl's arse is 'shit stirring'? [/QUOTE]It finally dawned on me that perhaps I should not have taken the question too seriously. Anyway I have no problem to finger a girl's ass if she likes it. Some do I guess and I recall one girl requesting it. However I was surprised when she told me why her fingernail was shorter. Did not indicate at all what she liked only she was aware of some guys wanting a certain service.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1930791]Could you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by GFE / Girl Friend Experience in this context? I see this term bandied about on boards like this one but suspect in most cases it doesn't mean much more than one's subjective opinion about a girl who, I don't know, smiles more often than scowls during the session, goes slower and with some modicum of artistry rather than fast and mechanical, something like that. But I could be wrong. Maybe the term is indeed referring to the kind of sex most of us would expect from our real girl friend? But somehow I seriously doubt that really is the case.[/QUOTE]To me it means that the way the girl behaved was a good as could be expected from a GF or better, so that you felt like she was into it perhaps. I do understand some real GFs are a bit limited in their sexual abandon, so a GFE could actually be more passionate, perhaps. Getting exotic services or a porn star performance is not what I think of as standard GFE. I never had a GF that wanted to ass fucked for example. So that would be a bonus rather than GFE requirement. Technical ability in the BJ is not really a GFE requirement. Not all GFs give the best BBBJs.

So GFE is simply like your were experiencing a girlfriend. I could exclude perhaps the use of condoms, so that GFE does not require bareback FS.

So yes a working girl can be passionately kissing and responsive as much as a real normal girlfriend, or difficult to detect the variation. So they really need to seem horny or as least very willing to qualify as GFE. Most girlfriends I experienced were responsive enough once they got into it, but not always wanting to start a session.

GFE should include reasonable DFK. That is a basic for most guys. Attempting to turn the girl on or get her off should be permitted, even if not successful. DATY should be allowed. Girl should move with sex and not lie like a starfish. These are probably the minimum requirements. Sound effects are allowed. Some hookers moan excessively but it needs to feel real rather than just an act.

I believe it is much easier to get a GFE out of a girl who is not fucking too often. Once she has to a porno session 5 to 8 times per day, you could imagine she might get a bit jaded by the end of the shift. I do not like to be that customer. I prefer hookers who are fresh, and its a bonus if they have not had a fuck for several days which happens in some circumstances, even if not frequent.

Some working girls do tell me they really like sex, some of the time, and some customers. They admit they may not be just going through the motions, which means pulling of a GFE can be easy sometimes, and other times requires incredible acting. Some girls are honest enough (not all), and will say it did not quite work for them to get an orgasm on the occasion. Others will say they don't want one due to being too tired or conserving energy. No big deal since not every GF had an orgasm every time.

I try to give the girl a good fun time as far as that is possible, even though sex could get boring. If she seems to be having fun and a good time, then she is probably achieving GFE. If she seems like she just does the required job, obviously not.

GFE has levels. O.K. , good and super GFE, for example. The more passionate and into it the higher the rating.

O.K. I admit if you happen to have a very multi-orgasmic very sensitive girlfriend, and I have had, then a hooker is going to have difficulty to produce that level. However there are GFs that had the same 2 cums and others that got none. I did experience a wildcat hooker recently, I don't know how many pops if any, but she did seem aggressively into it. Could have been an act, or her normal style.

Anyway the term GFE has been around for a long while to mean a girlfriend approximating experience.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1930846]Individually defined; but IMO and briefly:

GFE = good attitude, kissing / DFK, some genuine passion and engagement, allowing herself to become stimulated, no significant stop signs.

PSE = basically the above plus raunchy kinky stuff like: aggressive style boom-boom, dirty talk / role play, toys, COF / CIM, A+.

SL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1930873]To me it means that the way the girl behaved was a good as could be expected from a GF or better, so that you felt like she was into it perhaps. I do understand some real GFs are a bit limited in their sexual abandon, so a GFE could actually be more passionate, perhaps. Getting exotic services or a porn star performance is not what I think of as standard GFE. I never had a GF that wanted to ass fucked for example. So that would be a bonus rather than GFE requirement. Technical ability in the BJ is not really a GFE requirement. Not all GFs give the best BBBJs.

So GFE is simply like your were experiencing a girlfriend. I could exclude perhaps the use of condoms, so that GFE does not require bareback FS.

So yes a working girl can be passionately kissing and responsive as much as a real normal girlfriend, or difficult to detect the variation. So they really need to seem horny or as least very willing to qualify as GFE. Most girlfriends I experienced were responsive enough once they got into it, but not always wanting to start a session.

GFE should include reasonable DFK. That is a basic for most guys. Attempting to turn the girl on or get her off should be permitted, even if not successful. DATY should be allowed. Girl should move with sex and not lie like a starfish. These are probably the minimum requirements. Sound effects are allowed. Some hookers moan excessively but it needs to feel real rather than just an act.

I believe it is much easier to get a GFE out of a girl who is not fucking too often. Once she has to a porno session 5 to 8 times per day, you could imagine she might get a bit jaded by the end of the shift. I do not like to be that customer. I prefer hookers who are fresh, and its a bonus if they have not had a fuck for several days which happens in some circumstances, even if not frequent.

Some working girls do tell me they really like sex, some of the time, and some customers. They admit they may not be just going through the motions, which means pulling of a GFE can be easy sometimes, and other times requires incredible acting. Some girls are honest enough (not all), and will say it did not quite work for them to get an orgasm on the occasion. Others will say they don't want one due to being too tired or conserving energy. No big deal since not every GF had an orgasm every time.

I try to give the girl a good fun time as far as that is possible, even though sex could get boring. If she seems to be having fun and a good time, then she is probably achieving GFE. If she seems like she just does the required job, obviously not.

GFE has levels. O.K. , good and super GFE, for example. The more passionate and into it the higher the rating.

O.K. I admit if you happen to have a very multi-orgasmic very sensitive girlfriend, and I have had, then a hooker is going to have difficulty to produce that level. However there are GFs that had the same 2 cums and others that got none. I did experience a wildcat hooker recently, I don't know how many pops if any, but she did seem aggressively into it. Could have been an act, or her normal style.

Anyway the term GFE has been around for a long while to mean a girlfriend approximating experience.[/QUOTE]I can't think of a reason I would ever tout a P4 P experience as being a GFE and not mean she allowed FS to completion with no condom. Perhaps see it as merely a more politically correct coded way to refer to BBFS but with the additional inference of taking it to "completion" (not asked to pull out). As opposed to PSE, a GFE in my book would mean she was up for the more standard "girlfriend" behaviors of BBFS and BBBJ+CIM without hassle or discussion but not necessarily Anal. Are there many men in the world who would imagine or tolerate a girlfriend not taking care of the birth control business enough to easily and without hassle allow BBFS with them or who would continue to accept a girlfriend who routinely pulls her mouth away from a BJ when he came? Personally, I wouldn't believe a girlfriend of mine is all that into me if she didn't just swallow instead of spit at the end of a BJ but understand that many a girlfriend out there does not swallow for their men in the same way that many do not engage in Anal with them. But I believe BBFS and BBBJ+CIM are much more commonly accepted and expected girlfriend behaviors.

On the other hand, PSE would mean to me no condom everything was on the menu, including Anal, whether indulged in or not, and threesomes, along with a wilder variety of positions and activities along the way, say from CG to Mish to Doggie to BBBJ to CG to BBBJ+CIM, for example. I doubt many men expect their girlfriends to behave that way. But unless they are watching much more boring porn than I have bothered to sit through for more than 5 minutes, I believe that is Porn Star behavior. And, yes, swallowing instead of spitting at the end of a BJ is what I would generally mean if I touted a girl as behaving like a Porn Star.

We already have terms for more girlfriend-related behaviors like DFK and we have the term Starfish for a girl who almost literally just lays there without even pretending passion for the experience. Otherwise, the idea of "passion" or her "being into it" is way too subjective to mean anything at all for the next customer who walks into a venue or chooses a certain girl. Some men are aware of and appreciate a quiet, understated kind of passion and might even see it as more "genuine" than a P4 P girl who flails about, loud moaning, groaning and such. So the idea of a GFE meaning the girl seemed into it more than just for the money might merely mean that particular customer was more sensitive to her subtle responses than the next guy would be. The next guy expecting her to be "passionate" or "into it" could easily wonder where is the flailing, huffing, puffing, moaning and groaning he was expecting.

[QUOTE=Sunlover2;1930846]Individually defined; but IMO and briefly:

GFE = good attitude, kissing / DFK, some genuine passion and engagement, allowing herself to become stimulated, no significant stop signs.

PSE = basically the above plus raunchy kinky stuff like: aggressive style boom-boom, dirty talk / role play, toys, COF / CIM, A+.

SL.[/QUOTE]This would be my definition as well.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1930861]It finally dawned on me that perhaps I should not have taken the question too seriously. Anyway I have no problem to finger a girl's ass if she likes it. Some do I guess and I recall one girl requesting it. However I was surprised when she told me why her fingernail was shorter. Did not indicate at all what she liked only she was aware of some guys wanting a certain service.[/QUOTE]Having your knob in a girl's pussy and a finger in her arse is great, that's why I asked. I'm sure a lot of guys like doing that. A lot of girls do too but some will refuse it, probably because they're worried that you'll stick your dick in there next.

The thing is attractive girls are ten a penny in Bangkok so I look for a girl that will do that little bit extra.

[QUOTE=*****man;1930965]The thing is attractive girls are ten a penny in Bangkok so I look for a girl that will do that little bit extra.[/QUOTE]Yes, they are, but there are very few incredibly attractive gals working in the P4 P industry these days. Go to Thonglor on a Fri / Sat night and you will see amazing looking women. Go to malls and look at some of the amazing Korean tourist chicks. Sadly when you return to any of the P4 P venues the women don't look so good. I guess I am way over that Isaan look for the most part. Just does nothing for me. And I think the longer you stay here the less it appeals to you. A friend's Thai gal once said to me, "When farangs first come to Thailand their eyes don't work. " She is correct.

[QUOTE=*****man;1930965]Having your knob in a girl's pussy and a finger in her arse is great[/QUOTE]Indeed it can be fun. My favorite is to have my thumb digit-deep while in doggy. I can then grip the small of the back and work the girl's ass in sync with my thrusts. Illustration attached. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.