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[QUOTE=Nypher;2896310]
Don't be that person taking advice from some Military Vet on the internet telling you about "game" and "prices" then once you get enough information about them you learn that their information is from 10 years ago while they were in the military having the government pay for everything so they can floss a luxury lifestyle to attract women.
[/QUOTE]Military Vets have done much more travelling than civilians, and generally are more helpful. If they would take a bullet for their country, they will help another brother.
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Reflections
[QUOTE=Nypher;2896310]Ok, first you have to be clear with what you want and.
Type of girl you are looking for will be 100% subjective to only your desires. To elaborate, if you're into Instagram model looking type girls don't expect the girl who spent $$ getting the fat transferred from her stomach to her ass, installed some huge bolt-ONS and pumped up her lips to take a low ball offer or play the waiting game. She can instantly get someone else paying more and your time will be wasted getting something you don't want from the clearance bin. Many individuals with tell stories of how easy they got a girl to do what they want for cheap but they will never show you what that girl looks like and its for a very good reason. Or the reverse they will tell stories of GFE they had but somehow forget to mention how much the total expense was including taking her shopping, paying her directly, and paying for any other activities such as day trips. We have allot of guys in the whatsapp groups getting dunked on because they saying they got girls for cheap and when they finally post a picture of the girl, these girls are build like French door refrigerators or a paper bag is needed.
.[/QUOTE]This is a very good post. I'm very grateful you posted this. Good advice.
LOL French door refrigerators.
I've been mongering for a while a now and I will say that I've changed what I'm attracted to now.
I used to be an ass guy. But now that I've gained more experience I've become a boobs guy. Fake. Natural. Don't care. Covered sex does nothing for me. Only if she has boobs will I feel anything. Or if she's skinny with a fake ass. But mostly boobs.
What really attracts me tho. Aside from anything physical, is absolute submissiveness. I love that. Had a skinny girl in Medellin. Omega flat In all aspects but she was so submissive she was so attractive. I love it.
I've also noticed that these women have problems like a lot of problems. Most have kids and that's why they are p2 p. Or there's just something off about their personalities where they are either head strong or the opposite of submissive. It's nasty. The higher the body count I've noticed the worse it is. Lower bodycount and they are very nice.
I think as acquire more resources where I can buy higher and higher quality women, I might not go for the best looks. I might not go for a girl that already has a fake ass and fake tits or that looks just naturally very good. It seems like these women come with problems over a longer time horizon than a short term nightly encounter.
I might just go for that girl next door that's skinny, low bodycount, and submissive, but with a very attractive face and then just buy her boobs and a fake ass and just Make her my long term "girlfriend". Hopefully she doesn't leave after me spending 10 k for all that.
What do you guys think is the feasibility of such endeavor?
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2896310]
Are you looking for a one trip girl or you're looking for a long term vacation girlfriend who you will see everytime you travel? The reason I ask this is because most people will not tell you that their "vacation girlfriend" is on a retainer. They are sending her money every month to support her and she will be their "girlfriend" when they arrive on vacation. I'm giving you the heads up as I personally know plenty of girls in Colombia, DR and Thailand who have multiple gringo boyfriends sending them money every month to be available when they come. So if you're not in the circle of sending $500 - $1000 a month to put a chica on retainer for vacation girlfriend duties then seek an alternate route. We have allot of guys in the whatsapp groups getting dunked on because gringos are posting pictures of chicas who are their GFE on retainer and other gringo will come along and post pictures of them with the same girl and post a picture of the conversation showing that $$ chica on retainer for one gringo was only 200 MIL or 1000 Bhat a pop for the next gringo.
Type of girl you are looking for will be 100% subjective to only your desires. To elaborate, if you're into Instagram model looking type girls don't expect the girl who spent $$ getting the fat transferred from her stomach to her ass, installed some huge bolt-ONS and pumped up her lips to take a low ball offer or play the waiting game. She can instantly get someone else paying more and your time will be wasted getting something you don't want from the clearance bin. Many individuals with tell stories of how easy they got a girl to do what they want for cheap but they will never show you what that girl looks like and its for a very good reason. Or the reverse they will tell stories of GFE they had but somehow forget to mention how much the total expense was including taking her shopping, paying her directly, and paying for any other activities such as day trips. We have allot of guys in the whatsapp groups getting dunked on because they saying they got girls for cheap and when they finally post a picture of the girl, these girls are build like French door refrigerators or a paper bag is needed.
Don't be that person taking advice from some Military Vet on the internet telling you about "game" and "prices" then once you get enough information about them you learn that their information is from 10 years ago while they were in the military having the government pay for everything so they can floss a luxury lifestyle to attract women.
I made alot of mistakes and posted my experience so others don't end up with the bad experiences I encountered.
I wish you the best and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Best post I have read in a long, long time. I like dropping the knowledge but the humility at the end. God, I cannot stand the assholes who swear they hit a home run every time they get up to bat. To me, it is like skiing. If you are not failing and falling at times, you are not learning.
I have said in the Bogota and Medellin forum I had to double what the prices were to get close to what I was asked to pay. Of course, I only fucked attractive women. I could have had pigs if I wanted. Funny thing was Woodman who knows Bogota like no one else came in and called a few guys out bragging about how low they were paying in Santa Fe.
This should be a post of distinction.
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[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2896478]Military Vets have done much more travelling than civilians, and generally are more helpful. If they would take a bullet for their country, they will help another brother.[/QUOTE]That's completely irrelevant to the point I was trying to make.
What my comment boils down to is Vets giving information to a country that they have not been to in 10 years.
If the information isn't recent then it's worthless. It would be the equivalent of someone telling a fresh gringo to go to Space, Dolce, Delirium to find chicas then the gringo goes there tomorrow and find the clubs are closed. Then that fresh gringo finds out that person who gave the information haven't been to Cartagena since the Pandemic.
Similar happened to me when these old heads were talking about Boca Chica in DR like they were just there last week. Then when I get there I find everything moved to Sosua. That's why I say, get recent info not "back in my day" stories.
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[QUOTE=HumbleHal;2896478]Military Vets have done much more travelling than civilians, and generally are more helpful. If they would take a bullet for their country, they will help another brother.[/QUOTE]I am a military vet and I would beg to differ. First, if you are in a branch other than the navy, then chances are your military traveling will be limited to Korea, Germany, or Japan, unless you count a war zone and we know what few those have been in the past 20 years. In the Navy, if you have sea duty then your boat may stop at different ports. And even then you are not subject to visit a ton of countries, but still more than other branches.
Second, the people that join the military to "take a bullet for their country" are few and far between. That endeavor would mean nothing since you will actually be taking the bullet for the interest of corporations that have elected government officials in their pocket. To most people the military is simply just a job.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2896560]What my comment boils down to is Vets giving information to a country that they have not been to in 10 years.
Similar happened to me when these old heads were talking about Boca Chica in DR like they were just there last week. Then when I get there I find everything moved to Sosua. That's why I say, get recent info not "back in my day" stories.[/QUOTE]That is funny. My first 2 times in DR in 2006 Boca Chica was poppin. There were some beautiful girls there and they were cheap. 1000 pesos and a chick would stay with you all night. After that, the place fell right off a cliff. These days I only go to Boca Chica from Santo Domingo during the day to go to the beach or hang out with friends. As mongering is concerned, I literally have not seen a pretty girl there in well over 10 years. There are not even many chicks there. On any given night when the freaks come out, there are never any more than 10 chicks. And 9 and a half of those I would not fuck with Elvis's dick.
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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2896585]And 9 and a half of those I would not fuck with Elvis's dick.[/QUOTE]So now looks matter? You are many things Mr. E but consistent is not one of them.
And you do not need to worry about my dick. If I found out I had fucked any of the so called "average looking" women you had been with, I would cut it off.
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Just got back from cartagena so I'll report what I can remember about the state if el centro.
I was in el centro every night from Tues night to sat night. Tues night was slow as hell in el centro. Streets was practically empty. Not many girls walking around. Things picked up Wed and Thurs to be in full bloom Friday and Sat night.
So it appears the girls are not really being harassed by the cops anymore. Guys are talking to the girls right in front of the police most times. Most cops don't give a fuck what is going on, then you have those hard-asses who are trying to make a name for themselves I guess and they keep telling the girls to move on. One cop I noticed would only tells the girls to move. There could be a group of gringos standing right next one or two girls and he would only tell the girls to keep walking. But for the most part, the girls are walking the blocks where the clubs are. Most of the police concentration was on the street with Alquimico and Monkey Bar. Cops would post up outside every night. One night all the cops disappeared at 2 am as soon as Alquimico closed. There was a heavy police presence this weekend. I would say that the cops were situated outside of any club that was open. Alquimico, Monkey Bar, Mondo, VSOP, XO and El Pa'quin (I think I fucked up this name though). There was some military presence, but I think that was because the mayor was in el centro that night.
Anyway, I can say that on Fri and Sat night, there was some really nice talent walking around. Some I would even say worked out of DV. But there was a lack of guys for sure. It wasn't the amount that I'm use to seeing. The kids are for the most part gone, I did see a few but there were where the police were not. The rappers are still in the city during the day and night. Guess the mayor failed to stop that. The horse carriages are still in the city, guess the mayor failed on that too.
The girls can enter the clock tower plaza but they can't stand around there. They would walk there and see who standing around. There didn't appear to be any restriction to the direction you can walk down any street.
I went to Androgeno on Wed night just to see what it was like. I wasn't impressed at all. Only the from room was available. They are still working on the 2nd latin room. But it was the same Delirium girls in there. I heard Fri and Sat were the worst. It was wall to wall packed and you can barely move. Glad I didn't see that. But hey some people like those spaces with all those people in one crapped area. I didn't check out Terraza 47 (Rooftop 47) which is suppose to the Space equivalent outside of the center. I have seen videos and it looks nice but it has nothing but tables and couches. I don't see too much of a standing area in case you didn't want to buy a table. But from the looks of it, it looks way better that Androgeno in case you wanted to place that looks nice to go to.
I will say this: There are no girls to find in the clubs in el centro! . So please don't go with your crew thinking it was anything like last year or earlier. I'm watching groups go in the clubs all excited to be disappointed when they exit 10 min later asking where the girls. I said, oh you have been following what is going on since the start of the year? Jajaja The current open clubs are sausage-fest unless a guy brings a girl with them. But even then there is no guarantee she will get inside if she's dressed to much like a puta. I saw a fine girl get rejected and dumb guy goes inside with his group dumping her. 10 min later he comes out looking for her after realizing there was nothing inside. LOL. We were all dying laughing, me, my guide brother and some of the other guides. They were joking as this guy was running down the street trying to find the girl again.
I went to Hollywood beach on Thurs. I would say that the ratio might have been more guys to girls that day. For some reason, not all the girls in the city go to the beach and I was told that's because they can't spend money needed to be at the beach just to give a guy a number and never get that callback. It starts to get too expensive over a weeks time if she doesn't work. But there was some nice ones out that day. I heard Friday was a lot of people but I don't know if it was more guys that girls or vice versa.
I'll try to remember more if I can. This trip was filled with up and downs and fucking close calls to getting stuck in a fucked up situation but nothing that threatened my life or safety.
I'll add this, speaking Spanish does open a few small doors even with the locals (I call anyone living there local, Colombians and Venezuelans). My spanish isn't intermediate according to me, but they tell me they understand me and it's better than most they normally hear. I realize when I'm high, I seem to understand what they are saying much better. I was listening to whole conversations and laughing with them.
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[QUOTE=Traveler3345;2896922]I'll try to remember more if I can.[/QUOTE]Did you pork any WGs and if so, how much did it cost?
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[QUOTE=Traveler3345;2896922]Just got back from cartagena so I'll report what I can remember about the state if el centro.
I was in el centro every night from Tues night to sat night. Tues night was slow as hell in el centro. Streets was practically empty. Not many girls walking around. Things picked up Wed and Thurs to be in full bloom Friday and Sat night.
So it appears the girls are not really being harassed by the cops anymore. Guys are talking to the girls right in front of the police most times. Most cops don't give a fuck what is going on, then you have those hard-asses who are trying to make a name for themselves I guess and they keep telling the girls to move on. One cop I noticed would only tells the girls to move. There could be a group of gringos standing right next one or two girls and he would only tell the girls to keep walking. But for the most part, the girls are walking the blocks where the clubs are. Most of the police concentration was on the street with Alquimico and Monkey Bar. Cops would post up outside every night. One night all the cops disappeared at 2 am as soon as Alquimico closed. There was a heavy police presence this weekend. I would say that the cops were situated outside of any club that was open. Alquimico, Monkey Bar, Mondo, VSOP, XO and El Pa'quin (I think I fucked up this name though). There was some military presence, but I think that was because the mayor was in el centro that night.
Anyway, I can say that on Fri and Sat night, there was some really nice talent walking around. Some I would even say worked out of DV. But there was a lack of guys for sure. It wasn't the amount that I'm use to seeing. The kids are for the most part gone, I did see a few but there were where the police were not. The rappers are still in the city during the day and night. Guess the mayor failed to stop that. The horse carriages are still in the city, guess the mayor failed on that too.
The girls can enter the clock tower plaza but they can't stand around there. They would walk there and see who standing around. There didn't appear to be any restriction to the direction you can walk down any street.
I went to Androgeno on Wed night just to see what it was like. I wasn't impressed at all. Only the from room was available. They are still working on the 2nd latin room. But it was the same Delirium girls in there. I heard Fri and Sat were the worst. It was wall to wall packed and you can barely move. Glad I didn't see that. But hey some people like those spaces with all those people in one crapped area. I didn't check out Terraza 47 (Rooftop 47) which is suppose to the Space equivalent outside of the center. I have seen videos and it looks nice but it has nothing but tables and couches. I don't see too much of a standing area in case you didn't want to buy a table. But from the looks of it, it looks way better that Androgeno in case you wanted to place that looks nice to go to.
I will say this: There are no girls to find in the clubs in el centro! . So please don't go with your crew thinking it was anything like last year or earlier. I'm watching groups go in the clubs all excited to be disappointed when they exit 10 min later asking where the girls. I said, oh you have been following what is going on since the start of the year? Jajaja The current open clubs are sausage-fest unless a guy brings a girl with them. But even then there is no guarantee she will get inside if she's dressed to much like a puta. I saw a fine girl get rejected and dumb guy goes inside with his group dumping her. 10 min later he comes out looking for her after realizing there was nothing inside. LOL. We were all dying laughing, me, my guide brother and some of the other guides. They were joking as this guy was running down the street trying to find the girl again.
I went to Hollywood beach on Thurs. I would say that the ratio might have been more guys to girls that day. For some reason, not all the girls in the city go to the beach and I was told that's because they can't spend money needed to be at the beach just to give a guy a number and never get that callback. It starts to get too expensive over a weeks time if she doesn't work. But there was some nice ones out that day. I heard Friday was a lot of people but I don't know if it was more guys that girls or vice versa.
I'll try to remember more if I can. This trip was filled with up and downs and fucking close calls to getting stuck in a fucked up situation but nothing that threatened my life or safety.
I'll add this, speaking Spanish does open a few small doors even with the locals (I call anyone living there local, Colombians and Venezuelans). My spanish isn't intermediate according to me, but they tell me they understand me and it's better than most they normally hear. I realize when I'm high, I seem to understand what they are saying much better. I was listening to whole conversations and laughing with them.[/QUOTE]Thank you for update. It's a shame Dolce is still closed, always 15-20 genuine babes to check out for free. I'm sure some Dolce level girls may prowl the streets still, but the hottest ones seemed to like the discretion of being inside. Still even a wild trip I only need 2 maybe 3 amazing girls so while volume is low hopefully the top end of talent is still there.
Less guys, and the street walking being less comfortable for girls probably makes it even easier to get better prices. It wasn't too hard to get 300 k-400 k cop with top Dolce girls, so I'd like to think 250-300 K is possible if everything goes right.
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[QUOTE=TonyEm;2897004]Did you pork any WGs and if so, how much did it cost?[/QUOTE]I with people would stop asking these kinds of vague questions in public. Take it to PMs.
What exactly does the answer to your question accomplish?
Think about it.
Do you know Traveler3345 type of chica?
Do you think their type of chica will be your type of chica?
Do you think Traveler3345 is going to post a picture of the chica and provide the price so people can see looks to price ratio?
Do you think Traveler3345 is going to tell you all services they paid for once that bedroom door closed?
Do you think one chicas price is the standard for all mongers?
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[QUOTE=TonyEm;2897004]Did you pork any WGs and if so, how much did it cost?[/QUOTE]I had someone with me this whole trip so I didn't really partake. The only one I did partake was cause the girl I was with wanted to watch me fuck another girl. She negotiated that from money she had. She won't tell me the price though.
[QUOTE=DJHeywood;2897134]Less guys, and the street walking being less comfortable for girls probably makes it even easier to get better prices. It wasn't too hard to get 300 k-400 k cop with top Dolce girls, so I'd like to think 250-300 K is possible if everything goes right.[/QUOTE]You are right. I saw countless girls sitting down in the streets rubbing their feet. I can imagine everyday in just sandals for hours has got to be painful especially when they are not used to it. But my amiga told me girls are taking way less than normal because of the street competition and less guys. So 200 -300 k may not be a bad figure to try and work with. Start at the low end. Ain't no girl going to walk away from just for a guy offering 200 k. Now you might have to settle for no BBBJ with that 200 k price though. Might be a dealbreaker for some guys.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2897159]I with people would stop asking these kinds of vague questions in public. Take it to PMs.
What exactly does the answer to your question accomplish?
Think about it.
Do you know Traveler3345 type of chica?
Do you think their type of chica will be your type of chica?
Do you think Traveler3345 is going to post a picture of the chica and provide the price so people can see looks to price ratio?
Do you think Traveler3345 is going to tell you all services they paid for once that bedroom door closed?
Do you think one chicas price is the standard for all mongers?[/QUOTE]Thanks for the defense. But you are right. I pondered how to answer that question but I couldn't. There is so much that goes into trying to answer that question anymore. Maybe a few years ago it would have been easy, but things have changed that shuck up the market in Cartagena over the years. Prices vary based on people's situations. I'll say this much, locals pay under 100 K, and taxi drivers get it for free cause they take the girls where they need to go when the girl has no money.
It was just nice to see that people were out and about doing the business they needed to do in the streets without too much police interference. Only thing left now is for the clubs to open and no say how long that will take. I saw the owner of Space arguing with police officers. He kept telling them that they were clowns and puppets in a stupid game that would produce no results. Shit will go back to the way it was. He was cursing at them and I guess they couldn't do nothing about it. I waited 15 min to see what would happen than I left.
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[QUOTE=Traveler3345;2897362]Thanks for the defense. But you are right. I pondered how to answer that question but I couldn't. There is so much that goes into trying to answer that question anymore. Maybe a few years ago it would have been easy, but things have changed that shuck up the market in Cartagena over the years. Prices vary based on people's situations. I'll say this much, locals pay under 100 K, and taxi drivers get it for free cause they take the girls where they need to go when the girl has no money.
It was just nice to see that people were out and about doing the business they needed to do in the streets without too much police interference. Only thing left now is for the clubs to open and no say how long that will take. I saw the owner of Space arguing with police officers. He kept telling them that they were clowns and puppets in a stupid game that would produce no results. Shit will go back to the way it was. He was cursing at them and I guess they couldn't do nothing about it. I waited 15 min to see what would happen than I left.[/QUOTE]Its the same thing in the Discord groups where someone would post they just got back from Santa Fe and had lots of girls and some random will come along and reply with "how much did you pay?
There's no photos of the girls (age, body type, complexion), no location where they met the girls (calle, Discoteca, tinder) or time of meeting (morning, noon, night), no information on services (BBBJ, anal) but yet they want to know the price someone else paid with zero context of what was paid for jajaja!
As for the girls all out in the open walking around is killing them jaja. They can't hide in the clubs no more.
Many girls don't like walking the streets because they don't want people seeing them or the creep cam youtubers putting them on youtube, its the same with Hollywood Beach. The sugar daddies are watching KBS and cutting them off when they get caught on cam.
Glad you had fun, ill be back there soon, one of my chica says she's going to take me to some big ass Pablo Escobar water park and zoo near Medellin.
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[QUOTE=Nypher;2897159]I with people would stop asking these kinds of vague questions in public. Take it to PMs.
Do you think one chicas price is the standard for all mongers?[/QUOTE]I think the price someone paid is an integral part of the report. Sure someone may not pay the same, but it gives a gauge to go by.
I was in Ethiopia a week and a half ago and because someone wrote prices, them hoes did not get over on me. Someone said do not pay more than $10. One chick tried to get me for $20. I stuck with $10. She hemmed and hawed and went to $15 and $13, but I stuck to the $10 that I saw in the report. Finally, she realized I knew better.
Someone had also written $50 for all night. Why did another chick think she was going to juice me for $100? She said $50 for her and $50 for the boss. Little did she know that I read ISG and I had gotten a message from the boss saying it was $50 total.
We would not even need an ISG without prices. Everyone could just use the old fashion way and jump in a taxi at a random destination and say take me to the girls with no idea of what they could be paying. The first thing I actually look for in a report is the price. Because if it is above a certain amount then I know not to even waste my time going anyway.