Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1931448]All the PSE oily gals get 1500. You can either pay it to them or the total to the shop. Never heard any of them talk about getting less.[/QUOTE]Maybe and almost all other Oilies they get less (from all in price where no option to pay girl separately). Never heard them at other Oilies say get as much as 1500. You don't have to believe. You can ask at other standard Oilies with all in price but I presume you don't use those type of shops.

We could have a separate thread for the special group of PSE Oilies, not just isolating Tulip, and another thread for all the other Oilies, like Addict, Dream Heaven, Orient, Pink, Can Cam, Angels, EZ etc.

So it doesn't make much sense that at the PSE oilies the girl gets 1500 baht regardless of time, number of shots or number of orifices filled. I can only assume that those who do go for a 2 hour Viagra-fuelled binge are tipping generously because there's no shortage of girls in those places so they're clearly happy enough with the pay.

Other places have an extra charge for an extra shot or A+. That seems reasonable to me but presumably the business model of the PSE places is to maximise customer numbers and keep them coming back rather than squeeze as much money as possible out of each visit.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1931453]We could have a separate thread for the special group of PSE Oilies, not just isolating Tulip, and another thread for all the other Oilies, like Addict, Dream Heaven, Orient, Pink, Can Cam, Angels, EZ etc.[/QUOTE]Why not make a User Blog thread? My biggest challenge with being an ISG member is that good information gets buried under useless reports, quips, bickering, newbie questions, etc. , making the signal-to-noise ratio a struggle. For example, the current back-and-forth on "how much the girl gets" is really about as useful as a tit on my elbow. I have just started a blog on Cart Bars, which will be restricted largely to factual REPORTS. All sources welcome. As an authoritative figure on Crazy House, you could summarize all the good reports you have made on CH and then we can make builds. In fact, I have some reports to make on CH, so if you care to make a blog, it would be very useful to see the good information organized and built in one spot without buildup of useless topping. More importantly, any less-than-useful reports (e.g. discussion on comparisons of Cowboy to Nana) or troll-like behavior can be deleted as we should be moderators. The general Bangkok Thread is okay, but it is all over the place.

Like what Bkkdog is doing for Sephan Kwai venues. It's great.

Same for the thread on massage places. A blog restricted to factual REPORTS would be a blessing. IMHO this would make ISG a much more informative resource and worth contributing, especially for regular contributors. For consideration. AR.

[QUOTE=AsianRain;1931522]
Same for the thread on massage places. A blog restricted to factual REPORTS would be a blessing. IMHO this would make ISG a much more informative resource and worth contributing, especially for regular contributors. For consideration. AR.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by Factual reports exactly. Isn't it all just stories? Do you mean guys should stick to what actually happened to them rather than things they were told (hearsay)? With as little opinion creeping in as possible? E. g. We should not say the girl was cute or ugly? We cannot say the bar was too dark or the music sucked? Perhaps you mean experience reports with some perceptions are better than arguing about some girl or place that someone did not visit or try?

Not sure I get it. I do understand that reports should have information or data that can be used. Sometimes we report information that we have heard. This cannot be interpreted as pure fact, but sometimes the stories are consistent enough, to assume there is a chance they maybe correct.

I must admit I don't like guys casting aspersions on places or girls that they did not personally try out. I really used to hate Nic Frenchy quoting the post made by some dipstick on another forum but not willing to own the opinion, or commenting on character of a girl he never tried from scuttlebutt, rather than his own opinion from his own experience. The later were valuable and funny, so why he did the other is a big mystery.

Most of us don't accept anything as gospel, till we see it for ourselves. Healthy scepticism. However I use reviews to decide what things to maybe try for myself.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1931543]Not sure I get it.[/QUOTE]You might want to take a look at my attempt at a starter blog for reports on Cart Bars to understand better. Or check out what Bkkdog is doing for Saphan Kwai. Basically just report like we are reporting now, but just to a single thread which makes it easier to see the information about a specific topic in a specific place. For example, I was trying to look through your threads recently for a particular point on CH, but your reports are buried and dispersed under dozens of other reports, discussions, etc. That made it quite a chore to find. Anyway, give it a try if you like.

By the way, any experiences on cart bars by anyone are welcome. Enjoy BKK, AsianRain.

Hello,

I did visit this massageshop several times. They are located in Soi 22 Sukhumvit (a 20 min walk from BTS) but they are planning to move to Soi 6 in October.

They have a website. They had 4 ladies which are into BDSM a few weeks ago but not all of them appear on their website. So far I only did go there for BDSM. I did try with all these 4 ladies and for me Soda is my favorite.

They have 2 special, what they call kinky rooms. Before sessions starts you can choose which kind of activities you like at the reception desk. English skills are very good for Thai standards!

You could send them sms in the morning to ask who can booked for a specific time later that day.

There are other ladies too that will just do more ordinary things like BJ or prostate massage.

I never did try these ladies maybe next time I am in BKK.

Greetings,

Frits.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1931448]All the PSE oily gals get 1500. You can either pay it to them or the total to the shop. Never heard any of them talk about getting less.[/QUOTE]My long time regular told me the house keeps Bt200 at the PSE oily she's at, so she gets 1300.

She sometimes comes by on her day off, as after work she's too tired to be at her best.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1931240]I am talking about every GF I have ever had, not P4 P gals. All my friends at home wives and GFs all CIM without exception.[/QUOTE]Ditto again. Both eventual wives did from the very beginning, including my Thai wife. As did every girl I dated long enough, several months at least, to consider her a "girlfriend" (10 or so over the decades I suppose) plus, with rare exception, the hundreds of one / two-night stands I had in between. And a significant percentage of those GFs and brief encounters were not born and raised USA girls, but girls quite recently from Latin America, China, Japan, U. K. , the Philippines, etc.

I don't cite that as boasting but merely as further support for how common is a CIM finish to a BJ in this world.

The only place where girls I met considered CIM a BIG DEAL has been Thailand. And only about 1/3 of them are so opposed to it. Even more than mere CIM, II think I was in my late 30's before I first witnessed a girl spit out my cum into a tissue instead of swallow it. Yep, that was in Thailand, in a back room of one of those Soi Post Office or wherever bars in Pattaya.

After a short trip to Pattaya, I traveled to Bangkok and spend my first day at Ratchata and the "soapy massage" headquarters. Got off the taxi at Huay Kuang Station and walked towards Nataree Massage. I can confirm it is 100% shut down. My intend was to get to Poseidon, but was walking past Emmanuelle and decided to go in and take a look. I was immediately handed off to mamasan who recommended someone right away, just a few seconds from my entry. Her English was poor, and she just kept repeating a number, something like be-19, saying how good she was. I could barely make out who she was talking to. I asked to sit down and a waitress came and asked if I wanted a drink. I ordered a beer so that I could take a break and get my bearings straight. There were about 20 girls there at 5 PM, which was less than I had anticipated. There were a bit far away, and not behind any glass screen, so I guess this was the "fishbowl" that people refer to. Picking someone from a lineup is always challenging for me, I don't know if its just information overload or what. I stuck with my philosophy of picking someone who makes good eye contact and smiles. Most were just looking at their phones, and some were staring around looking bored. I think it was explained to me as a two-tier price structure of 2000 bahts and 2500 bahts. I eventually chose one of the girls at 2500 bahts who was thin, long black hair pulled back, fake MM boobs, and cute face, probably with some work done there as well, and reminded me a bit of Kim Kardashian, LOL. Paid for the session and my drink up front, and we went upstairs to one of the jacuzzi rooms. Mamasan shared that all sessions are 90 min.

Room was nicely decorated, and it takes a while to get the jacuzzi filled up, so there was some time for chatting, having a drink, and getting to know each other. Soapy massage began in the tub with some soft massages of the arms and legs, and then the torso, followed by cleaning off the private areas with some brief tugging of junior. A sensual and relaxing experience, but nothing over the top. After drying off and heading toward the full sized bed, there was another round of massage of the back, and then the session begins after flipping over. Unfortunately this was a covered BJ, and it lasted for about 2 minutes. She then climbed on top and started grinding away, clearly with intent on getting a quick release from me. This doesn't work on me, so we switch to Mish, and then doggie. I finished back in MISH and finished in the cover after about 10 min. In between the soapy massage and the session, she was constantly checking her phone and texts. She apologized for this, and explained that one of her regulars showed up asking for her, so she had to coordinate the times. All in all, a fun session with a good looking lady, and although I would have preferred more GFE, it was a relaxing experience nonetheless. Being able to communicate helped, as her English was conversational, which is better than the other girls I've met so far.

I then walked around and had dinner at a nearby seafood restaurant called the Deep Fried Crab, which is a top-10 restaurant in BKK and very crowded.

After dinner, I headed to Poseidon, which is still about 5 blocks away from Huay Kwang station. This is a huge 11 floor facility, and upon entering, mamasan showed me the lineup to my immediate right. There were about 20 girls there, some older, some young ones, but almost all with lots of makeup contributing a fake barbie doll look. I asked mamasan if there was another floor, and she said yes, more girls upstairs, but they were higher priced. Downstairs started at 2200 bahts up to 2500 bahts, and upstairs started at 3000 bahts and went up to 5 K or 6 K bahts for the "models". I decided to check out the upstairs selection, and after a couple of minutes, I chose a young lady with long black hair, nice smile, a bit darker complexioned, I think she said her name was "Am" or "Un". Mamasan tells me she is at 3800 bahts for a 90 min session. The first floor girls are 2 hour sessions. Same routine as Emmanuelle, and this girl spoke much less English, although she is playful and fun-loving. The actual session was pretty good, still a covered BBBJ, and she also tries the trick of getting on top and grinding away right after the brief BJ. It makes me wonder whether the quick thrusting of CG makes many guys cum right away?! We went through all the positions, and I ended up finishing with a self HJ and her licking my nipples. Another quick rinse and I was out on my way.

A couple of take away. Soapy massages are a good mix of variety and the session offers a bit more than just the quick bang and go. The actual session is usually not that great, as some of these girls see quite a few clients a day, especially the popular ones. The girl at Emmanuelle told me mamsasan tries to make quick recommendations to even out people's schedules, since some are quite popular and some are not. Both girls I saw appeared to follow a script, and they were somewhat mechanical. They were friendly and nice, so I did tip them before I left. Both facilities were quite good. Spend some time picking the right girl, and don't rush through things. Happy Mongering!

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1931873]Ditto again. Both eventual wives did from the very beginning, including my Thai wife. As did every girl I dated long enough, several months at least, to consider her a "girlfriend" (10 or so over the decades I suppose) plus, with rare exception, the hundreds of one / two-night stands I had in between. And a significant percentage of those GFs and brief encounters were not born and raised USA girls, but girls quite recently from Latin America, China, Japan, U. K. , the Philippines, etc.

I don't cite that as boasting but merely as further support for how common is a CIM finish to a BJ in this world.

The only place where girls I met considered CIM a BIG DEAL has been Thailand. And only about 1/3 of them are so opposed to it. Even more than mere CIM, II think I was in my late 30's before I first witnessed a girl spit out my cum into a tissue instead of swallow it. Yep, that was in Thailand, in a back room of one of those Soi Post Office or wherever bars in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]CIM and swallowing is very different. In my experience worldwide, very few would swallow but a reasonable part would do CIM (but must agree upon before). However, I also noticed that more girls reject CIM (think at Nataree! And that's worldwide (fear sexual diseases?

[QUOTE=EihTooms;1931873]The only place where girls I met considered CIM a BIG DEAL has been Thailand. And only about 1/3 of them are so opposed to it. Even more than mere CIM, II think I was in my late 30's before I first witnessed a girl spit out my cum into a tissue instead of swallow it. Yep, that was in Thailand, in a back room of one of those Soi Post Office or wherever bars in Pattaya.[/QUOTE]Agreed. Thailand is the only place I have ever had gals pull away at the moment of truth. Gals her are amazingly come-phobic. Most women love to play with it and have it on their skin for awhile. Here they can't wait to get it off of them.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1931997]Agreed. Thailand is the only place I have ever had gals pull away at the moment of truth. Gals her are amazingly come-phobic. Most women love to play with it and have it on their skin for awhile. Here they can't wait to get it off of them.[/QUOTE]Forgive my lack of experience. I only ever had one western GF / wife (mistake). It never occurred to me to try something nasty like CIM at a young age. I can't even remember anything specific about the wife's BBBJ. Was she any good at it? I can't remember. Probably didn't last that long. Too many years ago. I have been happily divorced for 25 years now. She did not like DATY, which was just as well, since she tasted real bad (unclean).

Many or most of my Asian GFs never suggested that CIM would be allowed, so yes possibly several may have been cum phobic. Some from a pretty conservative background, met overseas. I never particularly thought about having CIM either. It just wasn't my special need.

I don't recall Thai girlfriends having a phobia about cum on body. Surely girls see that as no different to cum in pussy or even easier to clean up. Obviously that is very different to cum on face or in hair. That would be nasty.

I am cum phobic too. I don't want to drink it. It has a sickly aroma, not too different to something like weak Chlorine.

Well known Tulip girl, years ago, did tell me the cum taste varies a lot and that some guys taste moderately acceptable and some taste really horrible, never delicious. Perhaps dependent on diet or smoking, or beer, or curries, or who knows? She was willing to take CIM, but never to swallow. The girls would try to skilfully hide that they spat it out. I recall one ISG writer proudly stating the girl swallowed, when all her regulars knew that she never did. She fooled him and ejected it quietly and quickly when he wasn't looking. Yes some swallow and some don't. I haven't surveyed the percentages. I don't really care. It is just not a given that Thai girls will want to it, even in PSE shops. I don't see the point to it or why some guys find it a thrill, other than conditioning by porno movies. Weird Psychology.

Most monger guys had a crap sex life with the western wife, I would guess. That is what drove them to switch to Thai or Asian girls. If my sex life with Western Girl was great, I probably never would have got started with the Thai girls. Hookers from my home country were also crap. Mostly the Asian hookers there were vastly superior. Hookers from East Europe and South America are also great. Nothing like from the homeland.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1932031]Forgive my lack of experience. I only ever had one western GF / wife (mistake). It never occurred to me to try something nasty like CIM at a young age. I can't even remember anything specific about the wife's BBBJ. Was she any good at it? I can't remember. Probably didn't last that long. Too many years ago. I have been happily divorced for 25 years now. She did not like DATY, which was just as well, since she tasted real bad (unclean).

Many or most of my Asian GFs never suggested that CIM would be allowed, so yes possibly several may have been cum phobic. Some from a pretty conservative background, met overseas. I never particularly thought about having CIM either. It just wasn't my special need.

I don't recall Thai girlfriends having a phobia about cum on body. Surely girls see that as no different to cum in pussy or even easier to clean up. Obviously that is very different to cum on face or in hair. That would be nasty.

I am cum phobic too. I don't want to drink it. It has a sickly aroma, not too different to something like weak Chlorine.

Well known Tulip girl, years ago, did tell me the cum taste varies a lot and that some guys taste moderately acceptable and some taste really horrible, never delicious. Perhaps dependent on diet or smoking, or beer, or curries, or who knows? She was willing to take CIM, but never to swallow. The girls would try to skilfully hide that they spat it out. I recall one ISG writer proudly stating the girl swallowed, when all her regulars knew that she never did. She fooled him and ejected it quietly and quickly when he wasn't looking. Yes some swallow and some don't. I haven't surveyed the percentages. I don't really care. It is just not a given that Thai girls will want to it, even in PSE shops. I don't see the point to it or why some guys find it a thrill, other than conditioning by porno movies. Weird Psychology.

Most monger guys had a crap sex life with the western wife, I would guess. That is what drove them to switch to Thai or Asian girls. If my sex life with Western Girl was great, I probably never would have got started with the Thai girls. Hookers from my home country were also crap. Mostly the Asian hookers there were vastly superior. Hookers from East Europe and South America are also great. Nothing like from the homeland.[/QUOTE]Nasty? Do you consider the fluid that flows from a gal's vagina to be "nasty" as well? I would imagine not, and I would imagine that you like the taste of it and the feel of it on your tongue. Same holds true for almost all gals in regards to semen (except Thais) that I have encountered. My US gals all loved to have it on their bodies, in their mouths, to play with it, etc. I had a great sex life with all my Western partners. In fact, I would rate almost all of them as far better and more skilled lovers than 99% of the gals I have had in Thailand. They also understood the psychology of sex and seduction to a far greater degree than Thai gals. Viets, Indos, and Koreans all seem to "get it" far better than Thais. So why did I come over here. Availability, quantity, price, and the simple fact that Thai gals are really pretty pleasant if you want to live with a gal. Far easier to get along with than Western women. It was not because they were great in bed, which honestly, most are not.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1932031]Cum is not biologically designed to be a food or beverage.[/QUOTE]For that matter, neither are sweat, her saliva and pussy juice. However, I assume you don't keep a spittoon on hand and place next to you when you engage in Cat Bath, DFK or DATY, right?

Some random thoughts about getting BJ+CIM and Swallowing for men who want it from their women;.

I suppose a man could wait politely like a wallflower until he finally meets a girl who "wants to" give a proper BJ with CIM and / or swallowing or one who "suggests it". It does happen. But rarely probably. I assure you that isn't how I racked up and continue to enjoy the many BJ+CIM / Swallowing that I enjoy. Part of the reason some women decide they will engage in BJ+CIM / Swallow is because they are finding themselves with a man who has the balls to ASK them for it and EXPECTS them to do it. Never underestimate the sexual turn on of that for women.

The majority of times, you need to TELL the girl how sexy it is / would be if she did that for you. Then ASK her to do it for you. Sometimes, that is all she will need to give it a try, not wanting to initiate it for fear of being thought too experienced, horny or slutty. It is a bit like shaved pussies in that regard. Many women don't want to show up on day one with a shaved pussy because she thinks YOU will think she is some kind of pervert. But tell her you like it that way, ask her to shave for you and, more often than not, you will never see a follicle down there again and she is relieved that you asked her to do it. You are now her "excuse" for doing it. Sure, you will meet women who will not do either no matter how often you mention it. Luckily, there are many fish in the sea of life and it is easy to move on to the next one.

You guys who love to DATY, you know that titillating, pleasurable feeling of power and control it gives you to bring your girl to a shattering orgasm through the artistry of your lips, tongue, perhaps fingers as well? The feeling of her body tensing up, the vaginal muscles tightening, the juices flowing a bit more and often even a strange new taste of it at such a moment or through her multiple orgasms? Well, guess what. Many, many, many women discover they enjoy exactly that same feeling when their man has ASKED them to finish a BJ like an adult women with CIM / Swallowing for perhaps the first time in their lives and not to panic and run across the room like a frightened child hiding behind an umbrella. They become as addicted to it as many of US become addicted to DATY to orgasm.

Case in point is occurring RIGHT NOW in my life. There is a very cute 22 year old Thai girl I met on one of the dating sites. While chatting on Line I told her how sexy I thought it was when a girl I like gives me a BJ+CIM+Swallow. She was horrified! Never tried it, never wanted to try it, never thought she would do it. Long story short she gave it the old college try on our second date. It was a clumsy and botched ending the first time she tried it. The second time she was good enough to compare with some of the lesser but decent jobs I'd gotten at Som's Haven, Kasalong and Lollita's, I kid you not. By her third try she has now become one of the best BJ-ers I have ever had, swallows like a champ, never spills a drop. AND, this is the moral of the story, she can't stop talking about it on Line with me now. Is constantly talking about how she misses "eating, swallowing my water" (talking about cum here, folks), can't wait to see me again to do it. She is not the only cute young Thai girl that has reacted that way over the past year either.

Stories like that will be familiar to many if not most guys reading it, I am sure. For many girls, after they discover the tremendous feeling of power, control and "giving" that comes with feeling their man's cock shoot warm jets of cum into their mouth and swallowing, knowing that SHE made that happen proactively, not by just laying there with her legs spread open, it can become as addictive to them as DATY to orgasm is for many of us. Maybe even more so.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1932080]Nasty? Do you consider the fluid that flows from a gal's vagina to be "nasty" as well? I would imagine not, and I would imagine that you like the taste of it and the feel of it on your tongue. Same holds true for almost all gals in regards to semen (except Thais) that I have encountered. My US gals all loved to have it on their bodies, in their mouths, to play with it, etc. I had a great sex life with all my Western partners. In fact, I would rate almost all of them as far better and more skilled lovers than 99% of the gals I have had in Thailand. They also understood the psychology of sex and seduction to a far greater degree than Thai gals. Viets, Indos, and Koreans all seem to "get it" far better than Thais. So why did I come over here. Availability, quantity, price, and the simple fact that Thai gals are really pretty pleasant if you want to live with a gal. Far easier to get along with than Western women. It was not because they were great in bed, which honestly, most are not.[/QUOTE]LOL. Goatscrot, we were obviously composing more-or-less the same message at the same time. And I am sure we are far more the rule than the exception in and outside this message board on that point.