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Hello,
I would be visiting Kuala Lumpur with a few friends for a bachelors party and have read few pages here. I wanted to know are Russian, Uzbek or non Asian girls also available in KL. If so where to find them and what is the rate for ST and LT.
Thanks,
Tarus.
I see CraigList is dead, here and in many other countries. They removed the section / cas.
Anyone knows where are now the hundreds of posters who were supplying a continuous flow of ads there? What is the current venue for those ads? Or it's simply dead?
Dear Seniors,
New to KL scene. PM me details of local Tamil girls / MILFs.
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New to KL scene. PM me details of local Tamil girls / MILFs.[/QUOTE]After one post? Good luck.
[QUOTE=Prince2098;2233948]Dear Seniors,
New to KL scene. PM me details of local Tamil girls / MILFs.[/QUOTE]I miss thee word "please".
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I know the post is long; if you enjoy reading—great. But, if you want quick details—for sure, skip to another post.
I'm in KL now. I've only been out mongering here once. I read many pages of the forum, including the excellent posts by NewImage; wow, those were great. I've picked up about 189 girls in 10 years, mostly in Philippines, Thailand, Germany. All paid. I don't even try for free. Sometimes the paid turn into free after a while. But, then they move in, etc.
My day of KL mongering involved walking over 10 miles, or so says the app on my phone. Headed out from my hotel by Grab to Mid Valley mall for phone chargers that would work with the Malaysian wall plugs, and started a monger-wander from there. I wanted to hit multiple areas that I had read about: Brickfields, Jalan Alor, Beach Club, and Chow Kit. Those are pretty spread out areas.
I thought I would walk form Mid-Valley to Brickfields, knowing that it wasn't all that close of a walk. Crap, that was a difficult walk. The distance is not great, just over 2 km, but there are expressways and rail-tracks that make the walk very hard. I did this because I wanted to; I was interested in seeing the city, and walking. (A Grab would have been like 11 RM, or something trivial. It wasn't about money.) I don't recall the time, but it was dark. Sunday night.
I had heard mostly negative things about mongering in Brickfields. Well, I walked in from out-of-area, and then walked the whole length of Jalan Thambipillay (from Lorong Chan Ah Tong, up to where it ends at Jalan Tun Sambanthan 3)- and I didn't see anything that was of even remote interest to me. There were some massage places, but I didn't venture in. At the very end of the street I saw one streetwalker who I would rank as a 1-out-of-10. I can't imagine a scenario where I would be interested in that worker. Did not stop! Kept walking.
Then, got a Grab over to Berjaya Times Square mall, to recharge phone at Starbucks, and get caffeine for the continued walk. That put me near the mongering streets of Jalan Alor and Jalan Rembia. Walked over there—and again, that walk was somewhat hard due to high-vehicular volume streets, and pedestrian overpasses.
I was surprised by the lively environment at Jalan Alor: street performers, musicians, and regular Joe tourists. I thought it would be more hard-core mongering, and massage places. Usually the tourists-mixing-with-mongering is not my thing. (I prefer Angeles City to Pattaya, for example. I don't enjoy the regular tourists – western girls and their boyfriends, and couples on holiday, even families—mixed in with the mongering. I know other guys like the beach at Pattaya, and think Angeles City is a shithole. That's fine; I don't think Angeles is charming, but I like that it doesn't mix mongering and regular tourists much. Guys that go to Angeles go to fuck the pretty girls. Or ugly girls; whatever. Not to jet-ski.).
Walking Jalan Alor I saw a few streetwalkers, among the crowds of people. Also girls offering massage, but I didn't engage much with them. I prefer to take a girl home; I'm not really down with the quickies in upstairs rooms. Not my thing personally. (OK, sometimes it is. Something about the furtive nature, and sketchiness of it. But, generally prefer a girl at the hotel, overnight.).
When I got to the end of the street, I looped back again—and got hit up a few more times by the massage girls, and eye contact by working girls. I went to the next street, Jalan Rembia, and it was a full-on night-market food festival environment. No streetwalkers, no massage—just full on night food market, again with performers singing on the street, and tons of regular Joe tourists. Interesting enough. "Alor Street Food Night Market."
At the end of the street, I turned to walk up to Beach Club. It was there that I hit the most massage girls—where Jalan Rembia hits Changkat Bukit Bintang. Girls were pitching 1-hour at 40 RM. I assume it would go to multiples of that once you got to the room, if you wanted any interesting service. But, I didn't go up. Can't report actual costs.
Walked the 1.5 km to Beach Club. I'll start the next post there.
I realize this long post will not be everybody's cup of tea. On the upside, it will have current, first hand information. Post 2 will be more the nitty-gritty.
Johnny.
I know the post is long; if you enjoy reading—great. But, if you want quick details—for sure, skip to another post.
I'm in KL now, I've only been out mongering here once. I read many pages of the forum, including the excellent posts by NewImage; wow, those were great.
My day of mongering involved walking over 10 miles, or so says the app on my phone. Headed out from my hotel by Grab to Mid Valley mall for phone chargers that would work with the Malaysian wall plugs, and started a monger-wander from there. I wanted to hit multiple areas that I had read about: Brickfields, Jalan Alor, Beach Club, and Chow Kit. Those are pretty spread out areas.
I thought I would walk form Mid-Valley to Brickfields, knowing that it wasn't all that close of a walk. Crap, that was a difficult walk. The distance is not great, just over 2 km, but there are expressways and rail-tracks that make the walk very hard. I did this because I wanted to; I was interested in seeing the city, and walking. (A Grab would have been like 11 RM, or something trivial. It wasn't about money.) I don't recall the time, but it was dark. Sunday night.
I had heard mostly negative things about mongering in Brickfields. Well, I walked in from out-of-area, and then walked the whole length of Jalan Thambipillay (from Lorong Chan Ah Tong, up to where it ends at Jalan Tun Sambanthan 3)- and I didn't see anything that was of even remote interest to me. There were some massage places, but I didn't venture in. At the very end of the street I saw one streetwalker who I would rank as a 1-out-of-10. I can't imagine a scenario where I would be interested in that worker. Did not stop! Kept walking.
Then, got a Grab over to Berjaya Times Square mall, to recharge phone at Starbucks, and get caffeine for the continued walk. That put me near the mongering streets of Jalan Alor and Jalan Rembia. Walked over there—and again, that walk was somewhat hard due to high-vehicular volume streets, and pedestrian overpasses.
I was surprised by the lively environment at Jalan Alor: street performers, musicians, and regular Joe tourists. I thought it would be more hard-core mongering, and massage places. Usually the tourists-mixing-with-mongering is not my thing. (I prefer Angeles City to Pattaya, for example. I don't enjoy the regular tourists – western girls and their boyfriends, and couples on holiday, even families—mixed in with the mongering. I know other guys like the beach at Pattaya, and think Angeles City is a shithole. That's fine; I don't think Angeles is charming, but I like that it doesn't mix mongering and regular tourists much. Guys that go to Angeles go to fuck the pretty girls. Or ugly girls; whatever. Not to jet-ski).
Walking Jalan Alor I saw a few streetwalkers, among the crowds of people. Also girls offering massage, but I didn't engage much with them. I prefer to take a girl home; I'm not really down with the quickies in upstairs rooms. Not my thing personally. (OK, sometimes it is. Something about the furtive nature, and sketchiness of it. But, generally prefer a girl at the hotel, overnight).
When I got to the end of the street, I looped back again—and got hit up a few more times by the massage girls, and eye contact by working girls. I went to the next street, Jalan Rembia, and it was a full-on night-market food festival environment. No streetwalkers, no massage—just full on night food market, again with performers singing on the street, and tons of regular Joe tourists. Interesting enough. "Alor Street Food Night Market."
At the end of the street, I turned to walk up to Beach Club. It was there that I hit the most massage girls—where Jalan Rembia hits Changkat Bukit Bintang. Girls were pitching 1-hour at 40 RM. I assume it would go to multiples of that once you got to the room, if you wanted any interesting service. But, I didn't go up. Can't report actual costs.
Walked the 1.5 km to Beach Club. I'll start the next post there.
I realize this long post will not be everybody's cup of tea. On the upside, it will have current, first hand information. Post 2 will be more the nitty-gritty.
Johnny.
Walked from Jalan Alor to Beach Club. Entry was 45 RM, including a drink ticket.
Sunday night. Maybe 9:30 pm. My god, the girls were beautiful. And, dressed up. I swear there were 9's.
Ok, 4's. And 6's also. But, some just gorgeous girls. I know – sounds like BS, right? But, I was really impressed. If you know L. A. Café in Manila, this level of dress-to-impress of the girls at Beach Club in KL is a world above.
Also: I kinda looked like shit. I had walked maybe 6 miles by this point, in tropical heat. I wasn't dressed appropriately for the bar. I had shorts, and trainers, and a sports shirt. I didn't realize I would end up here. I started out with a trip to the mall, to buy phone chargers. Then, started googling on my phone. Then-I'm on a goddamn working girl walkabout. How did life lead me down this sordid path?
Then again: gorgeous ladies at Beach Club. Your mileage may vary, but I was impressed. Maybe because in Angeles City they are just in bikinis, and don't need to wear actual dresses. But, the Beach Club girls looked great in their pickup clothes.
Ratio of girls-to-guys was perhaps 10:1, or more. Hardly any guys in there at all. Dozens of girls. Sunday night, maybe 9:30 pm.
I washed up in in the restroom, then got my drink and sat my under-dressed ass down. I was quickly approached—by a gorgeous woman. She was a pro, and perfectly good to chat with for a couple minutes, then we got to prices. She asked 1,200 RM for the night.
Yeah, I know! Here's the thing though. In the UK, she could get that for an hour. No, I didn't even entertain the idea for a second; I told her it was not for me, and she got up without any kind of fuss and searched elsewhere. So, the price was out of line of what I've read in the forums- but man, she was beautiful, and I did enjoy having my hands on her bare midriff for the time she sat with me. 1,200 RM was not for me, not in this country.
Lots of very friendly smiles, walking around Beach Club. Too loud inside the bar area. Too quiet on the outside patio. Anyway, was approached by a Vietnamese girl. Thin girl, wearing jeans, and white shirt. Kind of reminded me of a regular girl in the mall back home—a girl that would never fuck me back home. Plain face, but great attitude. She really worked for it. Plain face, but she totally made up for it with great attitude, and total flexibility. (Both flexible in her disposition, and flexible with her limbs, I would find out later.) I offered her a drink, and she accepted a beer—but really offered most of that beer back to me.
She asked 800 RM. Too high, from what I read here, and she asked me to counter. I didn't counter. I said maybe I would come back, and I walked out. I left Beach Club.
Walked the 2. 5 KM to Chow Kit, to Loring Haji Taib 2. That was a pretty sketchy street. Ladyboys in hallways, dark and dank. I assume pretty damn dangerous, by that time at night. There is a night market, but it was packed up by that time—I think 11 pm or so, Sunday night.
I wandered up and down the streets – Jalan Haji Taib, and surrounding areas. But, only ladyboys, and they were on Loring Haji Taib 2 and Loring Haji Taib 1. By the "park. " I think it was a park. Some kinda green area.
Sketchy as fuck. Ladyboys asked 100 RM. Look, I knew I would write it up here later. Thought I would at least give you actual info. No, I didn't go into the buildings with them. Sketchy as fuck; dark and dank; man-made stand-up breasts, barely covered, on an Asian ladyboy body. I hold nothing against them. Talk all the shit you want. I'm not going to trash them.
So, I feel this was dangerous— walking these dark mostly-abandoned streets, at midnight. Time to take the escape hatch. I got a Grab, back to Beach Club.
Went looking for the girl with the white shirt and great attitude. Sat down at my same place, and a girl came over. Kind of drunk. Bit of a nasty undertone. Some mean vibe. And, this was in the bar. Can't imagine if there was a disagreement at the hotel. Wasn't going to be a good time. I went to get a drink, and left my cell phone there charging. She sat there with my cell phone.
While at the bar, another girl approached. I cut to pricing quickly, and she was asking 800 for the night. I was mostly gauging what they were asking. On the way back to my table and phone, saw the white-shirt Vietnamese girl- but the other girl was camped out at my table.
Tried to tell the girl with the mean undertone that I saw my friend, but she called bullshit. I really HAD seen my friend! The girl I met a couple hours earlier. But, girl #2 wasn't buying it, even though it was true.
I still wanted to gauge prices, so I asked girl #2 what she wanted for the night. 800 RM. I wasn't interested, based on the sharp edge to her, but wanted to know what the girls were quoting. Maybe shouldn't have asked. She was taking zero hints about leaving. I know what guys write on the forum. "I kicked her to the curb. " Or "I told her to leave. " Etc. Shit, she wasn't leaving. I had to climb over her to get out of the table / booth, to go get the girl with the sweet disposition. You don't have to pust what you would have done: 'I would have told her to' blah-blah-blah. This is what really happened.
Then the hard-edged girl fuckin followed me. She literally followed me and started saying I should give her money for sitting with me, and for watching my phone. Ok, BS. She's getting vocal, and she's a bit drunk, and aggressive. I don't care about any machismo posts, where guys say what they would do to the girl, or what they would say. I was there, and for me, this was a drunk girl, working up a grudge, holding a glass, getting aggressive, and it could get ugly. I certainly wasn't going to be physical with her. God no. First night out in KL, and get in an altercation with a bar girl? Not going to be a good time—and in some places that is a total setup. (Burgos streetwalkers in Manila will pick a fight, and the cops come rescue them—taking you to a holding cell until you pay up.).
Well, the original girl swept in, and told the drunk girl that she was with me earlier. Whatever she said, the drunk girl faded away.
The original girl was now down to 600 RM, and was asking what I would pay. So, that would have been my chance to go in with 400, or whatever. It's midnight now, and there are more guys now, and she's invested a lot of the night on me, and might not get another guy. It is busier now; I don't know the ratio; maybe it was 2 girls to 1 guy. A lot more guys.
I had decided to take the girl out, and was working on getting a Grab.
SOME NOTES ON GRAB FROM BEACH CLUB! The taxi drivers out front are goddamn scum of the earth. I understand that they threaten Grab drivers. When I was walking out, the taxi driver said he would "smash" my Grab. No joke. Aggressive, aweful taxi drivers. The worst of them. My Grab cancelled—and I don't blame him, with all the aggressive taxi drivers out front, pissed that their taxi racket isn't what it used to be, now that there is Grab.
Walked away from Beach Club, down to the Shangri La. Again, it was feeling it was a little dangerous—this time based on the taxi driver mafia out front. I wanted away from them— and didn't want to get into a street fight with 20 taxi drivers by trying to climb in a Grab. Wasn't going to be a good time.
Walked over to the Shangri La. Taxi drivers didn't follow on foot. Got the Grab from the Shangri La. Next time, I'll tell the girl we are walking to the Shangri-La, and just walk straight there, without any delays out front of Beach Club with the taxi mob. From the guard station at the Shangri-La, got a new Grab, and it was a lady driver. Nice ride back to my hotel, chatting with the girl, and the lady driver.
Back to the girl: totally friendly, happy. Fucking amazing tattoos on her back—from Thailand, and Vietnam. Gorgeous body work that totally caught me by surprise. Her girl-next-door clothes covered all that up, in the bar. But showering with her—it was awesome.
I had her put her white shirt back on, with her white panties that looked like a butterfly in the back. Had her down on the floor, on a pillow, with her rear end facing a wall-length mirror as she blew me. Just a great girl. Yeah, a pro- but willing, and friendly, and great attitude.
And flexible. When spreading her legs they went all the way open- like with her feet together, her knees would be flat on the bed, legs spread. Really flexible young woman.
Lots of guys talk about how the girls are liars, etc. Whatever. This girl was perfectly nice. She makes money from sex. Fine. But, nice nonetheless. She also makes a business of buying things in the countries she goes to, posting them on Facebook, and selling them back home. Like a working-girl meets import / export businesswoman. More power to her.
Yeah, I paid the 600 RM. I know guys here quoting 350, plus tip. The girl stayed until noon the next day. When I gave her money, she said "My money!"—so happy. Sex a couple times was great, but so was hearing about her business of buying bags and perfumes, and selling them back home. A pro—but a pro with a sideline online import business.
That was last weekend. I'll go out again tonight.
Johnny.
Hotel Soleil is closed and nobody reported here?? Since when??
Did I miss that? Shit it was my safe be plan in KL for when at 3 am I did not find anything interesting.
What spa now? Hotel Nova also is gone long time ago.
[QUOTE=Johnny7973;2235559]I know the post is long;
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I realize this long post will not be everybody's cup of tea. On the upside, it will have current, first hand information. Post 2 will be more the nitty-gritty.
[/QUOTE]Johnny,
Thanks for the detailed posts.
You do not have to worry or second guess what other folks will like or dislike.
Your detailed accounts, based on your first hand experience, are MUCH better than the typical wham, bham, thank-you mam reports.
Looking forward to reading your exploits in KL. Thanks again.
BKKguru.
Every time I come to KL I add a bit of disappointment to the current value.
Yesterday night I found the Hotel Soleil closed for renovation work. It really needed that, but what about the spa?? It was a safe B Plan for me (damn autocorrector, which corrects it to the nonsense "be plan".
Beach Club is becoming worse and worse every time. I remember the magic emotion I was feeling on my early years in KL, whenever I was entering that wild playground in its old location. Viet girls were asking 200-250 rm.
Now, this is what I have seen in two nights.
1) 90% of girls are well-seasoned veterans, and I really mean that. I see faces that I have been seeing in BC for YEARS already. I am not exagerating. Some girls have 2, 3 even more years of experience working in BC, some also interleaving that with OT in Singapore. Not exactly the freshest virgins just arrived from village near HCM.
If I ask girls "How long have you been here?" they invariably reply "Too weeksh alleady". My second question is "Not the first time here, right?" which receives the reply "Second time here". One yesterday admitted "This work 2 monthsh in Singapore before", and another "4 yearsh working here already".
2) 99% are professional sharks, well trained by the hard environment to identify the best customer and squeeze out as much money as possible. Forget the naif girl who can hardly recognize the note denomination (awww the old times!
3) The standard rate is now 500 rm for short time. Yes. They ALL ask this, if not more than that. Princess types (and the gross truck drivers from East Europe) demand 600+. I neglected to ask overnight to not hear "800! or "1000"! (planning overnight since the beginning is not a good idea however).
I took two girls in these two nights, and it was always very long to negotiate down to 400, which is my threshold. I met a girl who was with me 1 or 2 years ago. After the first hugs, "how are you? "LTNS", etc etc. I told her that I had only 300 and she simply left me on place with a quick "bye".
The rich guys who do find reasonable to pay 200 USD for a quick fuck spoiled the place.
The other problem is that too much people exploits these girls. A long chain of people earns on them: the corrupted police, the agents, . At the end, the market stabilized to 500 rm for short time. And people pays that without an eyeblink!
4) The management of BC is so grossly bullshitting! But people deserves that, as they seem to appreciate. Yesterday, one of the bartenders was standing on the bar desk, dancing and showing a long ribbon advertising "PROMOTION TEQUILA SHOTS ONLY 10 RM" with a big smile stamped on face. He was holding the ribbon and a BOTTLE OF DON JULIO ANEJO, that is a very good and above-average expensive tequila. Frankly, I found not very credible they were giving Don Julio Anejo as 10 rm shot to the crowd. So, I went looking what was happening behind the bar. They were filling up the small glasses with some white liquid from a bottle without label.
And all the girls and Indian guys were pushing to buy a shot (don't they know Anejo is dark and not transparent as water?)
At the end, it was not so bad for me, however.
First night: an extremely pretty small girl. She was sexy and very good on doing things, but I've become hyper-demanding. I don't find attractive anymore the ultra-pro with 1 year and more of experience. I feel like a wheel in a macbine. I will forget soon.
Second night: this was different. This girl is new, only one month, and scared to go with her first Western man. Lots of problems in putting it insisde, because she was too tight. She was communicating with translator "I am unprofessional sorry". I prefer this kind of girls, even if they have no clue on what to do. At the end, I told her that she could do what she wanted, stay or leave, and after a while walking around the room she entered the bed to sleep. This morning at 9am she was still sleeping like an angel. 400 as agreed for ST (if I asked overnight in BC, she would have requested 800).
PS: Johnny, YOU ROCK! You did it right to not follow anyone in ChowKit. Those buildings can be a trap. On the other hand, the taxi mafia in front of BC is simply scum of heart. No danger, just noise. Leave them behind you and take a taxi or a grab from Shangri La.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2235691]Hotel Soleil is closed and nobody reported here?? Since when??
Did I miss that? Shit it was my safe be plan in KL for when at 3 am I did not find anything interesting.
What spa now? Hotel Nova also is gone long time ago.[/QUOTE]Hi.
I was little shocked yesterday when I arrived and saw Soleil was closed.
I loved their helthclub. I use to go there every day early when I am in KL. I really hope it will reopend when the renovation is over.
BL.
[QUOTE=ButtLover;2235833]Hi.
I was little shocked yesterday when I arrived and saw Soleil was closed.
I loved their helthclub. I use to go there every day early when I am in KL. I really hope it will reopend when the renovation is over.
BL.[/QUOTE]Yes, same feeling here. What other spa on the model of Hotel Soleil and open after 2 am would you recommend? Just in case tonight I escape from BC because I see nobody interesting at a reasonable price.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;2235836]Yes, same feeling here. What other spa on the model of Hotel Soleil and open after 2 am would you recommend? Just in case tonight I escape from BC because I see nobody interesting at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]Hi.
I don't know. I always want to fuck early. Yesterday I went to the green elephant spa.
I payed 250 ringit for 45 min with a very nice girl.
BL.