Safe Sex and Sex Related Discussions in Thailand

I may sound stupid by asking a question related to our favourite activity. But, better safe then stupid and better now then never. And hopefully my posting this report on this thread will enlighten me ........

I enjoy the the P4P scence because of the convenience and hassle free nature of it. However, I miss the GFE activities where I do my part such as kissing deep, cullinigus etc. But, in a P4P situation, I have always been cautious and always used condom and in foreplay only touching, licking, dry kissing of my lady. I mostly let the woman take care of things. But, this can be unfulfilling sometimes. I have seen many pictures here in the forum that shows our ISG members doing the above things i.e. french kissing, DATY, bareback 69 etc.

How far can I go in terms of foreplay when I am picking up a freelancer? I love Thai woman but I want to play it safe too.

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[QUOTE=Amjeck]Nah, not worth it unless you're bored.

Warts are no big deal really. They kill women not men.[/QUOTE]

Killing women sounds like a big deal to me. HPV, the virus that causes warts, increases your chances of getting oral/throat cancer, a lot.

For many years I always used azithromycin for treating gonorrhea, and I believe this is commonplace in Thailand as this medicament is always prominently displayed in pharmacies. However recently my local pharmacist recommended a one time dosage of 400 mg cefixime in addition to the 1 g one time dose of azithromycin. He seemed to suggest that the former was for gonorrhea and the latter for chlamydia, but he may also have meant that both have effectiveness for both ailments.

Last time (a couple of months ago) I used the cefixime only and it worked fine, without the upset stomach that goes with the azithromycin. Just the last few days I had another bout, which I have just treated with cefixime (Cefspan). I'll report back if the treatment doesn't work. Incidentally cefixime seems very difficult to find in Thai pharmacies, unlike azithromycine.

Reading the latest CDC information I could find it seems that organization has resolved that the cipro/norfloxacin route (fluoroquinolones) is no longer viable due to resistance, and thus it recommends the cephalosporin family only for treatment of gonorrhea (cefixime being the oral formulation).

What I'm wondering is - do you mongers reading here use mostly just azithromycin, or the combo of cefixime and azithromycin? Or cefixime alone? Or do most of you go for the shot in the ass at the doctor's office or hospital? Lastly does anyone know why the CDC recommends only cephalosporins and not azithromycin in light of fluoroquinolone resistance?

[QUOTE=Opebo]What I'm wondering is - do you mongers reading here use mostly just azithromycin, or the combo of cefixime and azithromycin? Or cefixime alone? Or do most of you go for the shot in the ass at the doctor's office or hospital? Lastly does anyone know why the CDC recommends only cephalosporins and not azithromycin in light of fluoroquinolone resistance?[/QUOTE]

It's been a while now (over two years) that Doctors should have changed their prescriptions from Cirpofloxacin, ofloxacin and levofloxacin because of the increasing resistance to N. gonorrheae to the fluoroquinolone drugs and only the cephalosporins are being recommended to treat gonorrheal infections.

Cehpalosporins can be (in common terms) claforan, keflex, keftabs, ceclor, mefoxin, ceptax, suprax. Surprisingly the change started to these medicines before everyone else in the Asia, Pacific Island, and California due to the resistance of the strains of gonorrheal infections in these regions. I think the recommended treatment changed officially for everyone in early 2007 due to the Gonococcal Isolate Surveillance Project.

For me, I go on a three type of antibiotic and rotate through the year (when needed not continually) but Keflex is my choice.

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]...Doctors should have changed their prescriptions from Cirpofloxacin, ofloxacin and levofloxacin because of the increasing resistance to N. gonorrheae to the fluoroquinolone drugs and only the cephalosporins are being recommended to treat gonorrheal infections.[/quote]

Thanks for your prompt and useful response! I don't normally use doctors, but the majority of pharmacists in Thailand still recommend Ciprofloxacin or Norfloxacin. A few however know to recommend azithromycin and/or a cephalosporin.

[quote=Tansak KTV]For me, I go on a three type of antibiotic and rotate through the year (when needed not continually) but Keflex is my choice.[/QUOTE]

Just wondering why you prefer Keflex and how it is different from Cefspan?

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]It's been a while now (over two years) that Doctors should have changed their prescriptions from Cirpofloxacin, ofloxacin and levofloxacin because of the increasing resistance to N. gonorrheae to the fluoroquinolone drugs and only the cephalosporins are being recommended to treat gonorrheal infections.

Cehpalosporins can be (in common terms) claforan, keflex, keftabs, ceclor, mefoxin, ceptax, suprax. Surprisingly the change started to these medicines before everyone else in the Asia, Pacific Island, and California due to the resistance of the strains of gonorrheal infections in these regions. I think the recommended treatment changed officially for everyone in early 2007 due to the Gonococcal Isolate Surveillance Project.

For me, I go on a three type of antibiotic and rotate through the year (when needed not continually) but Keflex is my choice.[/QUOTE]

It is not really a surprise that resistance to first-line antibiotics tends to originate in Southeast Asia. It happened with anti-malarial drugs and now with drugs used for sexually-transmitted infections. The main reason is well-known: the high prevalence of self-medication including the improper use of these powerful drugs (typically using low doses for supposed prevention) and also stopping treatment before the full course has been completed when symptoms actually appear.

Sad to say, the mongers who post dubious recommendations for self-treatment and preventiion here are just as culpable as the "ignorant peasants" and the unqualified drug-sellers that these outcomes are usually blamed on. If you are too ashamed or too cheap to consult a well-informed and conscientious medical professional with your STI symptoms (and not all are, especially those who know they will never see you again!), you shouldn't be out playing with naughty girls. If these drugs are used as seem to be described here, you might or might not be putting yourself at risk, but you will definitely be contributing to the development of drug resistance and putting a lot more people in danger in the future.

[QUOTE=Lenience]
If you are too ashamed or too cheap to consult a well-informed and conscientious medical professional with your STI symptoms (and not all are, especially those who know they will never see you again!), you shouldn't be out playing with naughty girls. [/QUOTE]

yes, Tansak, go see a doctor wud ya, you cheap charlie ;)

[QUOTE=Lenience]Sad to say, the mongers who post dubious recommendations for self-treatment and preventiion here are just as culpable as the "ignorant peasants" and the unqualified drug-sellers that these outcomes are usually blamed on. If you are too ashamed or too cheap to consult a well-informed and conscientious medical professional with your STI symptoms (and not all are, especially those who know they will never see you again!), you shouldn't be out playing with naughty girls. If these drugs are used as seem to be described here, you might or might not be putting yourself at risk, but you will definitely be contributing to the development of drug resistance and putting a lot more people in danger in the future.[/QUOTE]

My first written response was with words like self righteous prick and dick head and such. But since I was chatting with my brother 1Ball and he told me I should tone it down a little out of respect for him as he is SO OLD and Senile I will.

So I'll step back a moment here and let me ask, where does it state I self medicate or that I advise to self medicate? Please show me in my post something that is not correct as this was given to me by a doctor and my antibiotic routine is prescribed by a doctor due to my working conditions.

I am in the Pacific with a wide varieties of strange illnesses and travel through out SE Asia in remote areas. I'm not talking just about STD's but we've had briefing after briefing about STD's every six months.

Opebo asked a prevalent question and I responded to his post. And I gave him factual information that is reported to me. Never did I state he should self medicate and never did I state I self medicate. My routine is prescribed by an international organization doctor. I even said that the DOCTORS should have changed their prescriptions.....

Must be nice to live on such a high horse you self righteous prick... Oops... damn that slipped out again...

[QUOTE=1Ball]yes, Tansak, go see a doctor wud ya, you cheap charlie ;)[/QUOTE]

Just got all my labs back today... clean as a whistle...

But I'm so whipped that now my current GF wants to see the reports and.... since she thinks we are almost up to the alter now... her older sister wants to take us to get our blood checked before we have sex together...

She's a little too late for that but we won't tell anyone.... ;)

[QUOTE=Opebo]Thanks for your prompt and useful response! I don't normally use doctors, but the majority of pharmacists in Thailand still recommend Ciprofloxacin or Norfloxacin. A few however know to recommend azithromycin and/or a cephalosporin.

Just wondering why you prefer Keflex and how it is different from Cefspan?[/QUOTE]

Pharmacists will use what the guy before them used or what the last customer asked for. Some actually know what they are doing but the one's I've talked to grab a box and sell it out...

Keflex for me for my items I get and I'm not talking STDS have always packed the fastest recovery times.

[QUOTE=Lenience]you shouldn't be out playing with naughty girls[/QUOTE]

Naughty girls??? I haven't seen it described this way since my grandfathers time...

I'm happy to have "naughty girls" to play with. For me it's better then going to the church social.

[QUOTE=Lenience]...If these drugs are used as seem to be described here, you might or might not be putting yourself at risk, but you will definitely be contributing to the development of drug resistance and putting a lot more people in danger in the future.[/QUOTE]

No, the use as described here is precisely as prescribed by doctors and recommended by the CDC, Leni. 400 mg Cefspan taken in one dose for gonorrhea, and 1 g of azithromycin taken in one dose for chlamydia is absolutely standard. Many sources also suggest the 1g of azithromycin is effective for gonorrhea as well, but that is the only (and only very slightly) 'non-standard' remedy discussed here.

I appreciate your awe of the medical profession, but I don't fully share it. If I'm in some obscure Thai town and discover that I have the same drip-and-burning that I had six months ago, I will gain absolutely nothing by visiting the local doctors. I can simply use what worked last time.

And by the way, the Cefspan worked perfectly - the old eurethral aperture is dry as a bone and clean as a whistle this afternoon!

[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Pharmacists will use what the guy before them used or what the last customer asked for. Some actually know what they are doing but the one's I've talked to grab a box and sell it out...

Keflex for me for my items I get and I'm not talking STDS have always packed the fastest recovery times.[/QUOTE]


Thanks for demonstrating my point. The pharmacists sell whatever they can to make a few baht. It must be nice to be YOUNG, rich, and handsome AND so brilliant that you don't have to read posts carefully. I chose to quote you before just for continuity, and you may note that I did not specifically refer to you. I was referring to literally hundreds of posts I have seen on ISG, including some that suggest barebacking is fine if you just do or ingest such-and-such before, after, during, etc.

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