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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1541118]There are scams among AC bar girls, probably very frequently.

Last time I was in AC, I bar-fined a young good-looking light-skinned girl from Atlantis. She belonged to the most expensive tier in that bar and she knew she was hot.

I paid the bar fine, which was for all night, and walked with her back to the hotel. Before even reaching the hotel she was whining about having to meet her mom for something, and if I would mind to let her off after the first fuck etc. I knew there was going to be troubles. This girl is half-Chinese, thus her light-skin.

In the room, She was a total biitch from the start, pouting ". Don't do this, don't do that." She kept whining about having to leave. She was just laying there huffing. I started penetrating her, when she claimed she was in pain. I pulled off, talking to her, promising a tip for her cooperation. She agreed. I put on more lube and reentered her just half way when she got all upset, pushing me off her, jumped off the bed, putting on clothes then left. I told her I would report her to her mommy and manager, but she did not give a shit. She left in a huff...[/QUOTE]Damn. I'm sorry to hear that man. I never did enjoy Atlantis and after this report, I don't think I'll ever do business with them again. You should also try to stay away from the higher tiered girls. From what I was told, the girls get to set their prices. When they make themselves expensive like that, they're trying to send a message. Usually, I don't want to go out for some stupid reason. I've even seen uglies in that top tier LOL.

YG

I was in there a couple weeks ago and keen of BF'ing the little lovely I was talking to. She was very up-front about it, saying she only went clubbing, not to hotels. Probably still gets the occasional BF (and probably a pretty high one) because of her looks or because punters hope for an exception. Still, remarkably honest.

Or maybe I am a lot more disgusting that I thought and that was her moaning in the room next to mine an hour later.

When I go to Blow-Row I'm looking for just that: A quick (well, sometimes not. I'm not getting any younger) , cheap BJ. If I want something more I'll go to Atlantis and get rejected again.

Actually, I'm not that much into the LT scene: I have trouble getting them to leave and they show back up at unexpected and often unfortunate times. I usually do it on my last night so some other punter gets the surprise knock on the door in mid-stroke.

One day around 11am I came out of my hotel, as I was waiting for the trike to pull up I noticed a beautiful girl waiting for the jeepney. She was going to Fields, I offered her a free ride with me as I was going to SM Mall. Turns out she worked at Atlantis and today was her day off. We agreed on the total bf of 3k to her and she would come over at 5:00pm for LT and exchanged cell numbers. She was such a beauty and I thought if she stayed until 11am then she was well worth it. About an hour later I received a passaload P5 text from her and answered yes. Over the next 2 hours I texted her a couple times to confirm our meeting and received no response. She scammed me for 5 pesos! LOL. Dumb B could have easily scammed me for 3k as my little head was doing all the thinking at the time. Now I don't have any proof she was an Atlantis girl but I did drop her at Atlantis front door.

[quote=lukeskywalker;1541118]there are scams among ac bar girls, probably very frequently.[/quote]although the runner you had you could technically be called a scam, it's not what most posters here mean. when scam is mentioned they're usually referring to set-ups by the police, etc; like the **** scam, the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] scam, etc.

[quote]last time i was in ac, i bar-fined a young good-looking light-skinned girl from atlantis. she belonged to the most expensive tier in that bar and she knew she was hot.

i paid the bar fine, which was for all night, and walked with her back to the hotel. before even reaching the hotel she was whining about having to meet her mom for something, and if i would mind to let her off after the first fuck etc. i knew there was going to be troubles. this girl is half-chinese, thus her light-skin.[/quote]did you interview her before you left the bar? ask her how long she could stay and what was on the menu? personally i would have turned around and marched her right back to the bar the moment she started whining about having to leave to meet her mom after the first pop. you certainly would have gotten a refund at that point. if you "knew there was going to be troubles" then why did you continue? sounds like the little head had taken control and all rational thought went out the window. i understand wanting to score a trophy, but there's plenty of them there to choose from. an expensive lesson for you, hope other punters can learn from it.

[QUOTE=Oosik; 1541135]I was in there a couple weeks ago and keen of BF'ing the little lovely I was talking to. She was very up-front about it, saying she only went clubbing, not to hotels. Probably still gets the occasional BF (and probably a pretty high one) because of her looks or because punters hope for an exception. Still, remarkably honest.

Or maybe I am a lot more disgusting that I thought and that was her moaning in the room next to mine an hour later.[/QUOTE]Sounds to me like you did the right thing and talked to the girl first. And she knew that if there was no sex, then you would probably return her for a refund and she'd lose her commission. Atlantis has long had the reputation for runners and they seem to cater to the big spending Koreans and Japanese. Many of whom only like to take a girl out to have as arm candy to show off to their friends as they barhop or go clubbing; and many times they release the girl without having sex with them.

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1541142]Did you interview her before you left the bar? Ask her how long she could stay and what was on the menu? Personally I would have turned around and marched her right back to the bar the moment she started whining about having to leave to meet her mom after the first pop. You certainly would have gotten a refund at that point. If you "knew there was going to be troubles" then why did you continue? Sounds like the little head had taken control and all rational thought went out the window. I understand wanting to score a trophy, but there's plenty of them there to choose from. An expensive lesson for you, hope other punters can learn from it.[/QUOTE]Yes. Each bar sets its own (fairly hidden) rules for refunds. Another justification for not refunding is time. Take the girl barhopping for a few hours and if she runs off, its hard to complain to the bar. The will feel justified in asking why you didn't take the girl to the hotel first.

Luke, post an unedited picture of the girl (clothed even) or her bar I-D.

I had many runner experience from Dollhouse group bar girls at my previous AC trips, even after thorough interview before barfine. I did not have this problem from other bars from AC.

[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker; 1541118]There are scams among AC bar girls, probably very frequently.

Last time I was in AC, I bar-fined a young good-looking light-skinned girl from Atlantis. She belonged to the most expensive tier in that bar and she knew she was hot.

I paid the bar fine, which was for all night, and walked with her back to the hotel. Before even reaching the hotel she was whining about having to meet her mom for something, and if I would mind to let her off after the first fuck etc. I knew there was going to be troubles. This girl is half-Chinese, thus her light-skin.

In the room, She was a total biitch from the start, pouting ". Don't do this, don't do that." She kept whining about having to leave. She was just laying there huffing. I started penetrating her, when she claimed she was in pain. I pulled off, talking to her, promising a tip for her cooperation. She agreed. I put on more lube and reentered her just half way when she got all upset, pushing me off her, jumped off the bed, putting on clothes then left...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pip Jaeger;1541144]Atlantis has long had the reputation for runners and they seem to cater to the big spending Koreans and Japanese. Many of whom only like to take a girl out to have as arm candy to show off to their friends as they barhop or go clubbing; and many times they release the girl without having sex with them.[/QUOTE]These losers kill the market. Paying a girl not to have sex with them? Only small cock dudes feel the need to show off a hookers to other mongers!

Time and time again on ISG I see a member posting a foto and another member comments,"You went all the way to XYZ to fuck something like that?" or "I wouldn't fuck her if you paid ME." You guys have to realize that this works both ways. Just because you are paying doesn't necessarily mean a woman will be into you or able to tolerate you. She may be just TRYING to do it for the money. But no matter how much money, promises, or threats (eg. the promise of bigger tips, the going back to the bar to report her) she just can't bring herself to do it. So it's not always a matter of being a scam.

[QUOTE=Amjeck;1541183]These losers kill the market. Paying a girl not to have sex with them? Only small cock dudes feel the need to show off a hookers to other mongers![/QUOTE]A: Tried to PM you but your box is full.

I went to Cambodia club a few years ago, took the door girl home, and she turned into a starfish in the room. I marched her back and they gave me a refund. They asked me what happened, and I said 'she wouldn't perform'. I don't know why they didn't get mad at her for going with me, then not performing. Many girls in AC have said they didn't want to go with me for sex, and it was fine. The girls are immature etc. But the club should support the fact that girls need to agree to perform if they are to go with a guy.

What works best is to forget about going after the hotties, and instead waiting and seeing if any girls really like you. Then the girls will perform, but will give you the old line of 'my stomach hurts' etc. So they can go back to the club after just a few hours. I usually see the mammasan briefing the girl on how to do that before they leave the club. That is ok with me as long as she performs well the first time.

But the AC scammers that plan on taking money and not performing the first time are to eventually meet their match and get in trouble with a guy. There are some guys out there that aren't to take that BS.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1541185]Just because you are paying doesn't necessarily mean a woman will be into you or able to tolerate you. She may be just TRYING to do it for the money. But no matter how much money, promises, or threats (eg. the promise of bigger tips, the going back to the bar to report her) she just can't bring herself to do it. So it's not always a matter of being a scam.[/QUOTE]Its true, she might find herself unable to perform. However, this raises questions about the reliability of the system. She has an obligation to not go out of the bar, and she has a further obligation to tell the gent and go back to the bar with him for refund. However, corruption and fear are part of her world, and she will most likely do whatever she needs to do to avoid losing the barfine and avoid her mamasan's wrath.

[QUOTE=FunKingBoy;1541174]I had many runner experience from Dollhouse group bar girls at my previous AC trips, even after thorough interview before barfine. I did not have this problem from other bars from AC.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the post. Tell us what remedy (if any) the bar offered on these occasions? How long were you with the runner?

[QUOTE=WestCoast1; 1541149]Yes. Each bar sets its own (fairly hidden) rules for refunds. Another justification for not refunding is time. Take the girl barhopping for a few hours and if she runs off, its hard to complain to the bar. The will feel justified in asking why you didn't take the girl to the hotel first.

Luke, post an unedited picture of the girl (clothed even) or her bar I-D.[/QUOTE]I concur and that's what I usually do. I'm just stunned that the management at Atlantis had zero sympathy or empathy towards the customer for his situation. Next time, say you didn't even stick it in. I'm seriously never doing business at Atlantis again though. I just feel what they did was wrong with zero customer service.

I've had a runner at carousel once and the management gave me a full refund on the spot! Of course, I didn't even get passed first base with her but I was satisfied with the course of action.

YG