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[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2331767]Planning a trip to Frankfurt this summer. I'm still waiting for my FKK debut and want it to be successful. I want to enjoy the good weather hence would like the club to at least have a garden. Seems to me World would be the obvious choice.
Is / are there any reason / s I should pick some other FKK over World? I'd say most women look good with a suntan why I wouldn't care too much if World doesn't have the prettiest girls. And even though the facilities of Sharks and Oase seem better and more modern still they can't compete with World's outdoors area. Let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]My preference in summer is Sharks. The outdoor area is great.
I'm not a fan of the Oase outdoor space.
It is a long time since I was at World.
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[QUOTE=Milfotronic;2331767]Planning a trip to Frankfurt this summer. I'm still waiting for my FKK debut and want it to be successful. I want to enjoy the good weather hence would like the club to at least have a garden. Seems to me World would be the obvious choice.
Is / are there any reason / s I should pick some other FKK over World? I'd say most women look good with a suntan why I wouldn't care too much if World doesn't have the prettiest girls. And even though the facilities of Sharks and Oase seem better and more modern still they can't compete with World's outdoors area. Let me know what you think.[/QUOTE]World LU in summer can be quite reduced, no good for first timer to stick to one club, if the weather is bad it will be useless to have that big outside premises, the club is also a bit updated. The garden is important but not the key for a great time, LU is the key and better you also give a visit to Shark at least if not Oase. German forums are still negative about World.
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[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2332121]Salaam Pksimar,
Although Globe is one of my favorite FKKs, Gino's description is exaggerated in my opinion. If you read the Globe thread you will read many reports of "princess attitude". Some of the prettier girls will simply refuse to go with most customers, sticking to their personal favorites. I have experienced this personally. This kind of behavior would be impossible if Globe management were keeping as tight a ship as Gino suggests.
The idea of a "service guarantee" is a myth, no matter how much mongers want to believe in it. It is true that if you make a complaint Globe management will listen to it, or at least make a much better act of listening to it than at German FKKs. However, the reality is that, even at Globe, most mongers are loathe to complain when they are cheated because they are afraid it will reflect on them more than the girl -- and unfortunately, they may be right.[/QUOTE]Yes, Globe girls are more inspected, so they have better care and look, when you can find little monkeys with very average teeth in Germany, but Globe is not hell for girls, Megan there since 2 years now, Larissa, Sofia and even Kate, are not warriors, if it was so difficult, they would not be able to resist, even for big money. I would like to see Kate trying to make me jealous being fucked in public in front of me, when she stopped with her client in September and I was not even close to them, about 10 meters far, but as soon she saw me, but it was already too late, killing my desire for her, then she could have seen in my eyes how a dreamed princess can become just a prostitute. It was not on a Tuesday but Friday, most often, she takes voyeur Tuesdays off, she really doesn't need this kind of business.
What is true is some girls, even Joana when she started, are afraid of bad report to desk after room. Never experienced princess behavior, girls usually return to me, at Globe or in Germany I don t run after our discovery, they can choose and they have to show me they choose me, to interest me.
Globe is the highest level I know in FKK land for looks and level in bed, when I was really disappointed by Aphrodisia average level of looks, but I understood this is not a good club for me, about image of women I look for, I'm not excited by prostitutes, but more by chic, elegance and charm, and also Swiss administration mafia don t help, so maybe on my way to my mountains, through Albanian go fast holes, but I prefer to work harder in Germany to get good from girls, even I hate when I waste my money, even less expensive, with average girls, like 50 wasted with Magdalena ex Mainhattan at Finca, who is on Globe level for look, but not for care, ashtray, and level in bed, just suck and fuck level.
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[QUOTE=BigBuddy69;2332169]Other solution: change clubs. Everyone knows in which clubs you can find the biggest scammers and guess what, they are the most discussed clubs on this board. Oase: 26 000 posts. Sharks: 21.000 posts. Artemis: 11 000 posts. Palace: 11 000 posts. World: 11 000 posts.
Maybe the fly in mongers like to pay more actually.[/QUOTE]Oase and Sharks are fine clubs which fit the need for the most number of mongers but perhaps some mongers with a lot of miles on their bodies have specialized needs and can't have fun there.
Thread post counts in Oase and Sharks are inflated due to the frequent, regular posters here and less due to newbie postings. Search function shows quite a few members who regularly bash the megaclubs are nevertheless posting very frequently in those threads. Conversely, while they love smaller clubs and undiscovered gems with outstanding service, the smaller club threads still have few and infrequent posts. Only Finca is getting some traffic of late, and it is not a truly small club either nor is it undiscovered.
I understand many senior members like to keep the good clubs and better girls a secret to themselves and discuss them in PMs with each other but not write in the public threads. That may be a good strategy for them. Perhaps that explains why the megaclubs have more participation from the senior regular members in terms of posting count while they actually seem to like the smaller clubs but post less in those threads.
However, the forum will be better off if information is shared openly and equally with all members, whether they post or not. Keep in mind, at some point all of us were newbies and all of us posted for the first time and attended a club for the first time. If megaclubs are crap as you believe but have much better options elsewhere, sharing openly will grab the attention of all readers, and traffic (both on ISG and attendance at the club) will be redirected to those clubs.
Due to their location, Frankfurt and Berlin will always have the most attendees but open sharing can help. That is also better than putting down the newbies and megaclubs and sex tourists.
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[QUOTE=Frozty;2332657]My preference in summer is Sharks. The outdoor area is great.
I'm not a fan of the Oase outdoor space.
It is a long time since I was at World.[/QUOTE]I love outside chalets at Sharks, just have desperately to find a beauty. I dream to take a Jane, not vulgar one at LR, in tree room at World. Oase garden is the most sporty and not only for football. On Summer, Hessen is where you feel the most on holidays, compare to NRW, only Villa Vanilla ex Vertigo garden with swimming pool is really enjoyable and YY is really missing for garden with swimming pool. New Magnum will have outside swimming pool, wait and see for casting. DV is a beautiful club, but unfortunately, very average casting for my eyes.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2332458]
I disagree that this means compromising on optics, except maybe in quantity. I totally think Oase opticswise has a wow factor simply because of the numbers. But if you mean optics of girls with whom one goes to room with, there is no need to compromise (unless going to the red carpet clubs). In fact, personally, as time goes on I have become more uncompromising in my optics assessments.
Each to his own.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]Optimist,
As I said, I have never been to any club in Frankfurt area, so I can't agree or disagree with you personally. From what I read here from the posters, I have firm impression that the level of WG's optics in the clubs in Frankfurt area, particularly Sharks and Oase, is higher than elsewhere. I wish I had visited there and found it out by myself. Cheers.
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Actually they're not, that's mainly self persuasion. The number of girls is higher but you're not walking in a model agency.
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[QUOTE=Bfsie;2333027]Optimist,
As I said, I have never been to any club in Frankfurt area, so I can't agree or disagree with you personally. From what I read here from the posters, I have firm impression that the level of WG's optics in the clubs in Frankfurt area, particularly Sharks and Oase, is higher than elsewhere. I wish I had visited there and found it out by myself. Cheers.[/QUOTE]I don't think you have missed anything apart from the sheer numbers and the nakedness. There are many superb looking girls in NRW. I shall never forget Linda's breasts at LR :D
Enjoy.
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Sirioja. You mention Magdalena. I think she is a case of YMMV. I had several discussions with her before going to a room, and she delivered on all the promises. Absolutely not suck and fuck only. On that occasion at least. She was very sweet with me
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2332927]Oase and Sharks are fine clubs which fit the need for the most number of mongers but perhaps some mongers with a lot of miles on their bodies have specialized needs and can't have fun there.
Thread post counts in Oase and Sharks are inflated due to the frequent, regular posters here and less due to newbie postings. Search function shows quite a few members who regularly bash the megaclubs are nevertheless posting very frequently in those threads. Conversely, while they love smaller clubs and undiscovered gems with outstanding service, the smaller club threads still have few and infrequent posts. Only Finca is getting some traffic of late, and it is not a truly small club either nor is it undiscovered.
I understand many senior members like to keep the good clubs and better girls a secret to themselves and discuss them in PMs with each other but not write in the public threads.
[/QUOTE]The reference to mongers with a lot of miles on their bodies, and the connection to recent reports on Finca would appear to relate to me :)
Regardless of who you are referring to, you are assuming that you know the motivations and private actions of people you do not know personally, even if you have gathered information about them. I suggest it is a good idea for all of us to refrain from attributing motives and hidden actions to other members. What we claim about other members is more likely to reveal more about our own view of the world. Do you feel you are being excluded from something?I can't believe any member thinks they can keep a good club from you. I am more than happy to answer any questions you might have about things you feel are being hidden. Anyway, I agree, the more information posted, the better, even if some weird guys then use it to diss other members to the girls. Now that your handle has been active for some time I look forward to some field reports from you to convert me to a Sharks' aficionado :D. I had hoped to run into you at Sharks today
I am continually amazed :confused: at the ongoing battle between avid supporters of the mega clubs and any criticism of them. Everybody is entitled to have their own preferences and to explain why. I love Oase and World, have always hated Palace, and just don't enjoy Sharks. But in all these clubs there are girls worth travelling long distances for. What I don't like is having to deal with sharks, of which there are many at these clubs. So, newbies, locals, flyin guests, megarich guests, all can go to the club which suits them
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Sorry that I gave the impression you articulated below. I am not yet knowledgeable about most of the senior members here although I have been lurking for a while before I began finally writing. What I want to say, my comment was not most certainly not related to any person and certainly not you.
In a way, it could be about me. I find that I become jaded as I age, and need more to stimulate me to the same degree. I was married and that was sufficient to make me and keep me happy, then I needed more, and more and more. In the mainstream clubs, the services tend to be, well mainstream. So, it kinda makes sense that as one becomes more experienced they may want more things and seek out specialized clubs. It was most certainly not derogatory comment.
I quite agree with your second paragraph and this is exactly my intent in making my prior comment. There is a lot of bashing of the megaclubs here. The gentleman to whom I had responded referred to the post counts as a way to prove that megaclubs are overrun with newbies and tourists and implied that they are happy to be ripped off and I believe you expressed your own agreement with that comment.
What I am saying is that all if you senior members who are so experienced and have such vast knowledge actually publish it in a more open manner, the clueless tourists as you guys call them might benefit from that insight and visit other clubs. I see that you said in the Sharks thread that it is not your favorite club at all and yet you have more posts in Sharks than say, Finca (I could be wrong in this). I am a newbie writer and haven't the talent to write super reports as you do. I will strive to do it, even if it can't match the quality of senior writers.
But to your last paragraph, I am in total agreement. I am not as experienced as you are I am sure, but I have visited a few clubs in my life and enjoyed all of them in their own way. I am recently enjoying the megaclubs more than the smaller ones due to my requirement of volume consumption but I am also not going to go around and bash the smaller clubs in those threads, nor will I be bashing the attendees of those clubs whoever they may be because I am also an attendee of the smaller clubs as well occasionally.
[QUOTE=Optimist;2333048]The reference to mongers with a lot of miles on their bodies, and the connection to recent reports on Finca would appear to relate to me :)
Regardless of who you are referring to, you are assuming that you know the motivations and private actions of people you do not know personally, even if you have gathered information about them. I suggest it is a good idea for all of us to refrain from attributing motives and hidden actions to other members. What we claim about other members is more likely to reveal more about our own view of the world.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2333042]Sirioja. You mention Magdalena. I think she is a case of YMMV. I had several discussions with her before going to a room, and she delivered on all the promises. Absolutely not suck and fuck only. On that occasion at least. She was very sweet with me[/QUOTE]Even I would run to her look in any club, but with her breathe, I can't have pleasure with her and also not into foreplay, so even she smiled to me on next day, but 50 wasted for me and I hate that. I prefer to spend 500 for a top girl at Globe. Just my subjective experience of course, like always, and I m very different. Only positive was no upselling, even coming from Mainhattan.
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[QUOTE=Pessimist;2332927]Oase and Sharks are fine clubs which fit the need for the most number of mongers but perhaps some mongers with a lot of miles on their bodies have specialized needs and can't have fun there.
[/QUOTE]It depends. If you're only into optics and don't care if the girl acts as a starfish or of you're ready to pay twice the price, it can be very good. If you're more into service and don't want to pay more than the normal price, I don't think that's the best place for you.
[QUOTE] sharing openly will grab the attention of all readers, and traffic (both on ISG and attendance at the club) will be redirected to those clubs.
[/QUOTE]I'm not sure it's a good idea since some of the posters / readers here are overpayers or are constantly bragging that they're so full of money that they can do 3 hours rooms as much as they want. I don't want to take the upsell epidemy out of Frankfurt. Don't forget the few morons who like to talk shit to the girls about other posters.
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[QUOTE=Optimist;2333048]
I am continually amazed :confused: at the ongoing battle between avid supporters of the mega clubs and any criticism of them. [/QUOTE]I'm equally amazed that Optimist and Pessimist have different opinions.
I mostly visit Oase of the mega clubs as the others never really done anything for me (Artemis used to) but to each their own. Agree it's too bad when people get too invested in the clubs.
If there's anything visiting the clubs taught me is what I really like and where it deviates from what others like. Hence, different clubs for different people and it doesn't mean one is objectively better than the other.
I have been to Globe BTW and the girls were beautiful and so on but surprisingly the actual club felt a bit rundown. I know that people say they don't care and only visit clubs for girls but I still wonder if others agree.
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Bfsie,
I visit both small NRW clubs and Frankfurt mega clubs and I find value in both scenes. When a poster advises you that you are "not missing" anything at the megaclubs is a bit wishful thinking. I do agree that one can find equally beautiful girls in NRW, but feel that I have had sessions with every single girl on my "wish list" within that region. I generally go to each club in NRW already knowing which girls with whom I will session. Occasionally, I will find a new girl that wows me. In Frankfurt, there are still girls who look great that I have yet to take to a room. I seem to always see a new face that perks my interest.
Secondly, while the service in NRW is on average better, it is hardly a guarantee. Look at Oceans, Samya, Magnum, Dolce Vita, Mondial, PHG, and even Acapulco. Amazing sex is hardly guaranteed at those clubs. I believe you were the one who mentioned that Turkish clientele oriented clubs generally do not provide as reliable service as the German oriented ones and I think you hit the nail on the head. And well, there are many more clubs in NRW that are geared towards Turkish clients. I dare say that Turkish service is just as bad as tourist service.
Anyway, Frankfurt clubs are absolutely worth a visit as you just have so many more girls and more fresh girls under one roof.
