Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99;1532449]As Simonwagstaff posted, the time to find out if she is available to be bar fined (and, even more importantly, willing to go with you) is not after an hour of buying lady drinks but before you by her anything. The lady drink should be bought after to seal the deal you negotiated, not before.[/QUOTE]And what would be the point anyway? To give money to someone that exploits prostitution? If you want to drink go to a regular bar where drinks are the same price for anyone and there is no pressure. If you want to give money to the woman, give it to her. Don't buy the bullshit of the drinks quota, a 200 Bt tip is worth 10 times more to a bargirl. I will never understand why men inThailand like to subsidize pimps and look as fools in doing it.

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1532439]Using the condom is true, at least for me. But the oral examination, really. I can picture myself sitting next a girl at a bar or anywhere and hearing " Honey open your mouth and I will get my dental mirror and check to see if you have any problems in there." Say Ahhh.

But I do understand you want to be safe[/QUOTE]Actually possible to get on tongue, gums and roof of mouth.

Nevertheless, ROTFLMAO.

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1532415]All good and great but just look at the flow of the conversation before throwing sermons, because I'm not the one that complained about anything.[/QUOTE]TomSFA has a history of "throwing sermons" (love that expression)! He has variously been described by elder statesmen on the China forum as a "know nothing" and "dumbass" newbie. I am not flaming him, just repeating what other experienced mongers have posted!

I'm not going to say it is a personality thing since I do not know you nor anyone else here. Let just say you are unlucky and shit happens. There is no indication at least to me there is a problem with how how you act.

There are many girls that get barfine ahead of their shift but continue to go to work since the customer might not be coming until later. So the girl works like O. T. To dance while dancing they get drinks from other customers. She is still working for a living to line up customer for the future?

There is no way for many customers to know unless they ask before hand? I'm sure after the flak he got now he will be asking sooner than later? Sure there is a chance she might just be saying this not to go with him for some reason? Further conversation on his part might be to simple ask her " when is your barfine coming, will you be available tomorrow"? Further question would give the answer that is how I would address it?

LBM

[QUOTE=Jimmy Boy 99; 1532449]That happened to me once a few years ago in the gogo in WS with the tub on the left side of the entrance where two or three girls bathe themselves and each other. I saw this girl with a great body and motioned her to come sit with me when her time in the tub was over. She did and I bought her a lady drink. A few minutes later I asked about bar fining her and she said that she had already been bar fined. I told her she could go and went to the bar area to talk to a manager. I asked why was she allowed to have me buy her a lady drink when she was unavailable to be bar fined. The manager refunded the cost of the lady drink and I left. However, had I bought her a number of lady drinks, that probably would have not happened.

As Simonwagstaff posted, the time to find out if she is available to be bar fined (and, even more importantly, willing to go with you) is not after an hour of buying lady drinks but before you by her anything. The lady drink should be bought after to seal the deal you negotiated, not before.[/QUOTE]What a strange idea. Ladydrinks are payment for the girl to sit with you, have some conversation, perhaps some touching left and right. It has nothing to do with barfining the lady. If you were just out to barfine her, you should ask before you start anything.

[QUOTE=El Flaco; 1532491]Questions like that go beyond the realm of human mind and are really the biggest waste of space and time on a monger's board.

It's your money, it's your time, do what you want with it but please post on tripadvisor about your transfer by bus / taxi / motorbike experience next time.[/QUOTE]I seem to have missed the announcement of your appointment as the Forum Police.

Of course your report of your antics of driving without a license are totally "to the point" of this forum. :)

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht; 1532686]I seem to have missed the announcement of your appointment as the Forum Police.

Of course your report of your antics of driving without a license are totally "to the point" of this forum. .[/QUOTE]If you can't see the difference between reporting checkpoint locations, and asking for an holding hand, I can't help.

BTW I am fully licensed including IDL. Thanks for wasting further space, now buzz off.

[QUOTE=Cab Driver;1532103]Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?[/QUOTE]I don't get your point, bar girls are routinely barfined multiple times a night. What does being barfined "earlier in the evening" have to do with YOU barfining her?

[QUOTE=Western787;1532738]I don't get your point, bar girls are routinely barfined multiple times a night. What does being barfined "earlier in the evening" have to do with YOU barfining her?[/QUOTE]I think he meant that some dude paid her barfine and was coming back to get her later, yet she continued to milk him for drinks.

[QUOTE=Western787;1532738]I don't get your point, bar girls are routinely barfined multiple times a night. What does being barfined "earlier in the evening" have to do with YOU barfining her?[/QUOTE]Simply a case of woman that did not wanted to perform, for whatever reason. The excuse given may vary and is not really important. What matters is that one is able to move on and learn how to not to be taken advantage for a next time.

Hi bro,

I'm visiting Pattaya for first time, can you give some tips can I get good quality condoms or need to carry from here? Where? What's about lady boy massage where can I get hot girls top places. Please guide. Any precaution.

[QUOTE=Mackin; 1532439]"Also, thai woman give lots of BBBJ's always inspect their lips and tongue for cold sores before they give you a BBBJ. Because heaven can turn to hell very fast. Also, no matter how innocent she looks do not bang her without a condom".

Using the condom is true, at least for me. But the oral examination, really. I can picture myself sitting next a girl at a bar or anywhere and hearing " Honey open your mouth and I will get my dental mirror and check to see if you have any problems in there." Say Ahhh.

Maybe she can get out the rubber gloves and ask to inspect your private area also if you wanted it sucked.

But I do understand you want to be safe[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sanjay Joshi]Can I get good quality condoms or need to carry from here? What's about lady boy massage? Where can I get hot girls top places.[/QUOTE]Condoms are sold in 7-11 stores, which are all over town. Most girls have a personal supply as well. Most of the ones I saw for sale were made by Durex, which is a quality brand. That said, if you fancy another brand or style it's best to bring your own. Lady boys can be found on Soi 6, especially in the bars on the SOUTH side of the street. As for "hot girls" in the "top places," check out the go go clubs on Walking Street. There are dozens to choose from and no matter what your taste in women you can probably find somebody you think is hot. There are also lots of go go clubs on Soi LK Metro. If you don't know where those places are located, I recommend buying the Pattaya map published by Groovy, which you can easily find for sale online. Finally, there is a TON of information available on this forum. Go back six months and read what others have written. It will be time well spent.

[QUOTE=Knobrm; 1531859]Outside of downtown Bangkok you don't know there is anything going on unless you follow media. Biz in BKK and DMK airport as usual, just less people.

Traffic to Pattaya from airports not impacted at all. Better actually as less tourists.[/QUOTE]Thanks knobrm for reporting the situation. I think there's no harm then. Great!

[QUOTE=El Flaco;1532743]Simply a case of woman that did not wanted to perform, for whatever reason. The excuse given may vary and is not really important. What matters is that one is able to move on and learn how to not to be taken advantage for a next time.[/QUOTE]Did the women actually turn him down?

Cadriver wrote as follows: "Had trouble in some go goes with bar fines, the situation is this I'am having a good time with a girl paying for lady drinks of course, also with the waitresses helping things along encouraging me to bar fine the girl, when say about an hour later when I've enjoyed my self and got a good chemistry going thinking would like to take her then she drops the bombshell telling me she was bar fined earlier in the evening, what a let down suppose you guys may think what a dum ass and not find out before but this happened to me 3 times in different go gos, think I am being scammed for lady drinks or my game just isn't working right, any ideas guys?"

He says he was "thinking" of taking her, but I don't see him actually saying he ASKED her, nor do I see where he claims she said NO.

Coyotes often string guys, its part of what they do. If she actually explicitly turned him down, I doubt there was any earlier barfine, but instead just another guy strung along.

Some Coyotes DO barfine but they just don't go to the hotel, so its really not a true barfine.

STRIKERS in Soi 4 in Bangkok has this young red haired Vietnamese girl, kind of cute, and she plays a lot of pool and gets customers to buy a lot of drinks, Her "barfining" she offers is basically taking her to the disco. STRIKERS while not a Go Go will sometimes will have girls dancing in front, but this girl says she is not one, so basically she is a (non dancing) Coyote, if that makes sense. Since even waitresses barfine in most (non Go Go) bars or pool bars, its does seem kind of strange. Although we all know Coyotes or their equivalent will sometimes selectively bend the rules with the right guy

Right guy or not, obviously with certain Coyotes its just a matter of price and how much they need the cash. Nana Plaza itself in recent weeks has been loaded with Coyotes (usually 18 and 19 year olds, agency girls brought in during the slow period created by the protests) and their rules seem to be all over the place. As I allued to previously (though i had wrong name on club before) there as a G Club quality (nominal Coyote) in Fantasia who a number of weeks ago was turning down on night barfine offers from multiple customers one after the other, even Japanese. And this girl could not only really dance (totally wild) and she was as sexy as all get-out, tall, long long legs, great ass, great body, fairly cute face. Then a few weeks later this same girl on a very slow night is begging (from stage) for customers to barfine her. Did she turn into a working girl in a matter of weeks?, Did she need the cash? Perhaps "Bangkok got her" as they saying goes.

And of course Soi Cowboy the girls in front I wouldn't even classify as Coyotes as they don't even dance, nor do they ever seem to go in the club. Only requirement seems to be being cute, willing to grab customers walking by and (apparently) having reached their 18th birthday.