Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1533123]In Thailand (and many other countries) prostitution is not illegal. Whether it is moral or not is a question for your own conscience.[/QUOTE]Prostitution is 100% illegal in Thailand. For example in the case of Poseiden Spa they could bust the entire 10 story building, the fish bowl, the sideliners, the pimps, the waitresses along with all the Japanese customers (both of them) in there TONIGHT if they wanted to.

Then they could round up Soi Cowboy and the annoying 18 year old door girls with braces standing out front, Baccarra and the Japs, every person except cab drivers and security guards in Nana Parking Lot, all the occupants in Nana Plaza especially the SPANKY'S tout hanging near the stairs beating the stick each night, and bust most of the occupants of The Nana Hotel WHILE FORNICATING and for good measure send a SWAT TEAM to bust the Soi 7 BEER GARDEN regulars and anyone in the vicinity of Soi 7/1, and just for kicks a massive roundup of the pretties standing with their night bags at Thermae looking all innocent, and even customers just eating popcorn.

It would shock the world and the media would proclaim all the providers as "trafficked" and the men as perverts, and ABC News in america would run specials on it for months, making sure to have lots of videos (taken from below) of the 2nd floor girls in Baccarra wearing sneakers and short skirts but no panties, and the left side Rainbow 4 girls dancing topless, all sure to kick up ratings.

Hillary Clinton would make it a major "human rights" campaign issue, and Bill Clinton would announce he's heading a special task force and will personally visit Bangkok to investigate how it all happened

However don't hold your breath.

[QUOTE=Darmstadter; 1533109]Can I buy Viagra at a pharmacy in Pattaya without a prescription?

How much does it cost compared to USA prices?

I usually always bring my supply but if cheaper there then I might as well get it there.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes you can but not all pharmacies will sell it to you. The one next to Tim Bar on second road is one that will. It's called Kamagra (locally manufactured) and is green instead of blue but has the same active ingredient.

I think it's 250 baht for a packet of 4 but I could be wrong.

[QUOTE=Tobyg; 1533161]Yes you can but not all pharmacies will sell it to you. The one next to Tim Bar on second road is one that will. It's called Kamagra (locally manufactured) and is green instead of blue but has the same active ingredient.

I think it's 250 baht for a packet of 4 but I could be wrong.[/QUOTE]Kamagra is India manufactured. They will take you for whatever they think they can get. Best to hard bargain or say but last time you sold it to me for X.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1533174]Kamagra is India manufactured. They will take you for whatever they think they can get. Best to hard bargain or say but last time you sold it to me for X.[/QUOTE]There is also a Thai manufactured one, Sidegra. 100 Bt gets 4x 50mg. Beside being cheaper, it's safer because legally manufactured for the purpose of pushing fakes and imports off the street.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1533118]Ok, now that makes more sense.

When cabdriver said 'she was bar fined earlier in the evening" I interpreted that to mean "earlier in the evening the bar fee was paid AND she went to the hotel to have sex" vs (just)"the bar was paid"

Assuming a bar girl is actually preemptively barfined, its hard to understand why she would let herself be tied up like that. I mean presumptively only the bar has been paid the 500 or so, yet she is still has not received her 2000 (or whatever). Unless the time is set or the customer is a major roller or major customer to her, it doesn't seem to make much sense. And the issue is magnified even more if the girl being tied up is in fact a "hot chick" as she is less likely to want to hang around waiting for someone when she has other opportunities all over the place. A hottie would have to be a fool to let herself get tied up like that.

Even as an excuse it seems transparently phony, and perhaps only a good way to lead a guy on to buy ladydrinks, and then bail.[/QUOTE]You can debate and dissect the merits of the girls' action till Buddha come but why they are doing it is not important. What's important, is as the OP asked, how do you, the customer overcome it, and some good answers were given below. As was stated before it could be an excuse not to go with the customer or perhaps they were genuinely bar fined and trust the person will return because they have an on going relationship with that person. Could also be that they were paid up front for their services.

BTW, just about everyone is phony in this game. When girls tell you they have "men" which means they are on the rag but are not or when John customer tells the girls, I'll be back when he knows he will not. It's all a game so being phony is a part of the show but it cuts both ways.

[QUOTE=Western787;1533118]Assuming a bar girl is actually preemptively barfined, its hard to understand why she would let herself be tied up like that. I mean presumptively only the bar has been paid the 500 or so, yet she is still has not received her 2000 (or whatever). Unless the time is set or the customer is a major roller or major customer to her, it doesn't seem to make much sense. And the issue is magnified even more if the girl being tied up is in fact a "hot chick" as she is less likely to want to hang around waiting for someone when she has other opportunities all over the place. A hottie would have to be a fool to let herself get tied up like that.[/QUOTE]I do this quite often. I've met a girl I like, and I fancy her staying with me a few nights later. So I arrive at her bar at 5pm and pay her bar-fine, telling her I will be back at 10:30pm or whatever. She is then free to do as she likes, until then, but usually she will stay at the bar with her friends and get a few lady-drinks. You are right, she could potentially go ST with another customer while waiting for me. But conversely she knows me, hopefully likes me a little, knows I will give her a good price for the night, and knows I might repeat a couple of nights later. I've made my commitment to come back and collect with my 500 bht bar-fine payment, so she knows she has a customer tonight. Conversely if she went off with another customer and I returned early, I would be pissed off, probably insist on a return of my bar-fine, so mamasan would be pissed off with the girl. And I wouldn't bother to see the girl again. So I guess I am saying it works if you have built up a bit of trust already.

[QUOTE=Western787; 1533131]Prostitution is 100% illegal in Thailand. For example in the case of Poseiden Spa they could bust the entire 10 story building, the fish bowl, the sideliners, the pimps, the waitresses along with all the Japanese customers (both of them) in there TONIGHT if they wanted to.

Then they could round up Soi Cowboy and the annoying 18 year old door girls with braces standing out front, Baccarra and the Japs, every person except cab drivers and security guards in Nana Parking Lot, all the occupants in Nana Plaza especially the SPANKY'S tout hanging near the stairs beating the stick each night, and bust most of the occupants of The Nana Hotel WHILE FORNICATING and for good measure send a SWAT TEAM to bust the Soi 7 BEER GARDEN regulars and anyone in the vicinity of Soi 7/1, and just for kicks a massive roundup of the pretties standing with their night bags at Thermae looking all innocent, and even customers just eating popcorn.

It would shock the world and the media would proclaim all the providers as "trafficked" and the men as perverts, and ABC News in America would run specials on it for months, making sure to have lots of videos (taken from below) of the 2nd floor girls in Baccarra wearing sneakers and short skirts but no panties, and the left side Rainbow 4 girls dancing topless, all sure to kick up ratings.

Hillary Clinton would make it a major "human rights" campaign issue, and Bill Clinton would announce he's heading a special task force and will personally visit Bangkok to investigate how it all happened.

However don't hold your breath.[/QUOTE]You ought to be a comedy writer, funny stuff!

I had this report all ready to post a month after my return home, but somehow managed to erase it along with some of my other possibly incriminating evidence. Anyway here are my thoughts on Pattaya. I am relatively new in this hobby and my only significant longer mongering period comparison is a one week stay in Sosua-Dominican Republic last August. Prior, it was mostly short term adventures. I will try not to compare too much.

Girls.

First of all I have to say that I prefer the look of Chinese and Korean girls to the SEA girls(except Vietnam), but in my humble opinion the vast majority of the girls in Pattaya to put it kindly were plain. However, due to the large number of them working here, a monger should be able to find what he wants every time he is out for a hunt. Regardless, somehow I still managed to fail couple of times. Generally, I love skinny girls and it is hard to beat the almost zero body fat that some of the Thai girls have, but their faces I often did not find attractive. Also, many of the girls regardless of their age had saggy boobs (I know-having babies) , which does not really effect me as much, since I am more of an ass man.

Some of the previous reports I have read indicated that the Thai girls are really sweet, humble, gentle, and so on, but after all is said and done, I cannot say that they are any different form other service providers in different parts of the world I have visited and experienced. A Thai girl can leave you feeling hallow inside and in your wallet as much as any other girl. I did not find them to be better in bed than other girls, however, I have to admit that I received some of the best blow jobs in my life in Pattaya. Also, they really seemed to enjoy DATY, but I generally find this with Asian / SEA girls.

The girls here also seemed quite shallow and narcissistic with their braces, nose jobs and so on, but that may be more of a generational issue. Even though friendly on the outside, it was all a game. Also, I found it interesting that there is a bit of an ageism issue going on. What I noticed, was that if you were young, it mostly did not matter what you looked like (within reason) and the girls were all over you. This may have something to do with an inordinate amount of middle aged and older man hanging around Pattaya. I guess you can't blame the girls, but being middle aged I did not appreciate this. I barely got out of my hotel in Sosua and I was grabbed by couple of young, thin, attractive, spinner bodied early 20's girls asking for a happy hour. Of course I obliged. I cannot see this happening in Pattaya. Reading a recent post by Mr. GoGo in AC, Philippines, I noted his remark about just having to look at a puta in Sosua would ensure him getting laid, but in Pattaya some of the girls do not look at you, and sometimes even look away when you try to accomplish contact.

I used to be amused when some of the posters in the Thailand thread commented about what they should be wearing or doing to attract the girls's attention. Now I understand. You actually have to have game sometimes to succeed. Or the smarts, which come with experience. I think this is especially true if you are older and may have to compete with the younger crowd.

The problem is that I came here with unrealistic expectations and it does not matter what you read here or see on the Youtube, you have to experience it before you learn.

To be continued:

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal;1533532]The girls here also seemed quite shallow and narcissistic with their braces, nose jobs and so on, but that may be more of a generational issue. Even though friendly on the outside, it was all a game. Also, I found it interesting that there is a bit of an ageism issue going on. What I noticed, was that if you were young, it mostly did not matter what you looked like (within reason) and the girls were all over you. This may have something to do with an inordinate amount of middle aged and older man hanging around Pattaya. I guess you can't blame the girls, but being middle aged I did not appreciate this. I barely got out of my hotel in Sosua and I was grabbed by couple of young, thin, attractive, spinner bodied early 20's girls asking for a happy hour. Of course I obliged. I cannot see this happening in Pattaya. Reading a recent post by Mr. GoGo in AC, Philippines, I noted his remark about just having to look at a puta in Sosua would ensure him getting laid, but in Pattaya some of the girls do not look at you, and sometimes even look away when you try to accomplish contact.[/QUOTE]Pattaya girls now raising their standards? In Bangkok all one needs to get all the hotties one can handle is: 1. A pulse 2. The bahts to pay them. Now it's probably smart to also be clean shaven, neatly dressed, have good breath, and be a gentleman, but I don't think its mandatory

[QUOTE=Western787; 1533131]Prostitution is 100% illegal in Thailand.

Hillary Clinton would make it a major "human rights" campaign issue, and Bill Clinton would announce he's heading a special task force and will personally visit Bangkok to investigate how it all happened.[/QUOTE]C'mon, Bill C is powerful enough to have a charter flight filled with prostitutes in Bangkok and brought to his location. That would not be human trafficing because it's part on "an ongoing investigation."

Wait 'til all of us publish the results of our 'study' on the sex industry in Asia. Oops, that's exactly what this forum is!

; )

[QUOTE=ConquerorVal; 1533532]I had this report all ready to post a month after my return home, but somehow managed to erase it along with some of my other possibly incriminating evidence. Anyway here are my thoughts on Pattaya. I am relatively new in this hobby and my only significant longer mongering period comparison is a one week stay in Sosua-Dominican Republic last August. Prior, it was mostly short term adventures. I will try not to compare too much.

Girls.

First of all I have to say that I prefer the look of Chinese and Korean girls to the SEA girls (except Vietnam) , but in my humble opinion the vast majority of the girls in Pattaya to put it kindly were plain. However, due to the large number of them working here, a monger should be able to find what he wants every time he is out for a hunt. Regardless, somehow I still managed to fail couple of times. Generally, I love skinny girls and it is hard to beat the almost zero body fat that some of the Thai girls have, but their faces I often did not find attractive. Also, many of the girls regardless of their age had saggy boobs (I know-having babies) , which does not really effect me as much, since I am more of an ass man.[/QUOTE]Youll be fine as long as you remember they are not your girlfriend!

ConquerorVal has it right, good looks are down, bad attitudes are up. And this has been going on since a long time. People like Goatscroat is able to explain that in much better words than myself.

If you can't see that, Western787, that is actually good for you or anyone with reduced standards. About myself, I'm pretty well adjusted and accepting by now.

However I don't think I would trade Pattaya for that cesspool of Sosua anytime, or even Las Terrazas.

I have seen loads of regular bars but how about any equivalent of above mentioned bars in Pattaya? Where one dies not have to pay a bar fine, fls are desperate to make eye contact and one does not have to listen to ear splitting music?

[QUOTE=FRHolmes;1533563]Youll be fine as long as you remember they are not your girlfriend![/QUOTE]Laughable comment. Not a single line or word from ConquerorVal report hints athe trading pussy for roamnce, rather all the contrary. And he, unlike you, is reporting not asking so what means to say "you will" ?!?
Save your 2 cents condescending lectures posted from a free account, for when it's worth.

Yes, I have an issue with the way too frequent inane, idiotic, preposterous postings. Dig it or skip reading.

[QUOTE=Margaya;1533586]I have seen loads of regular bars but how about any equivalent of above mentioned bars in Pattaya? Where one dies not have to pay a bar fine, fls are desperate to make eye contact and one does not have to listen to ear splitting music?[/QUOTE]Not many because in Pattaya, Thais are not stupid enough to renounce pimping where pimping is the norm. Few bar / disco exceptions on Walking Street, but if you don't want to barfine and meet truly desperate women, go to beach road.