FKK Sharks - Darmstadt

[QUOTE=WestWood168;2042860]I am going to Shark in 2 weeks. Is Nastya / Nastia still working there?[/QUOTE]Not sure you will find her at the moment.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2042954]I should rephrase the question. Where, outside of Europe, the Philippines and Thailand, is BBBJ the norm as it is in FKKs today?[/QUOTE]In the terma system in Brazil BBBJ and really enthusiastic women are the norm. A terma is a sauna like an FKK but worse in quality IMO: no free food, more expensive than FKK, club employees ask for tips a and are a lot rider, and girls wear clothes If you want BBBJ and excellent sex, Brazil is good, but it is no German FKK.

What a difference a year makes! Although the talent at Sharks was more or less the same as I remember that of last summer the dames are much less tolerant of ½ HR, 50 euro sessions. Many providers especially the hotter ones told me that 50 e ½ HR sessions are FS and BJ only. DATY was according to some only in 1 HR sessions and for others was 50 e more in ½ HR, not to speak of DFK which apparently for some was not available at all. I was having none of it. Fortunately, unlike my one visit to Oase last year there was a multitude of girls and I was certain that I would find the ½ HR 50 e girls who offered DATY and if lucky DFK as well. Needless to say there were indeed girls who offered ½ HR sessions to my liking. The names I remember are petite thin Paulina from Bulgaria, Alisha from Romania and Aisha who says she was from Croatia (can anyone confirm that she is actually from Croatia? There were more whose names I can recall but have forgotten their respective countries. I finally settled for Ria from Romania who made it clear from the outset that DFK was not part of the package. She was cute and I went with her and a good time was had by all. For my next session I had to have DFK which is my next best aphrodisiac after pharmaceuticals. Guys, I don't know about you but I found DFK really hard to get from a reasonably attractive provider in a ½ HR session. I had to use my experience to screen out those who said DFK was on the menu but my spidey sense told me it would not be worth it. I finally settled upon Kathy from Poland as I had to have DFK for a viable second session and she did not disappoint. She did attempt to ration DFK but my strategy was to give attention to another part of her anatomy when she did so and after a short while return to DFK. Also her BBBJ was excellent resulting in a hard on which was followed by the soldiers marching home before time. I'll be in Europe all summer and I can see that sooner or later I will have to fork out more money per session. I plan, however, to depart Germany by June 30 and am considering other countries within the region to pursue my hobby.

We need to be positive when looking at the gouging. More hot girls will come once they get wind of 150 euro for 30 minutes!

The clubs are going to need to get a grip on this before all their clients leave (to NRW or other destinations around the world). They need not be afraid of firing girls like GT did.

Agree with BB here. And another problem is when we write names here, some girls read it and almost force some girls to start upselling more.

How about that price hike to 60 e now to calm down girls annoyed at inflation during 10 years past? The girls can take it and stop their BS, or they can leave if the BS goes on? Clueless young girls without life experience who has no idea about pr. I don't know how many times I need to point out the importance of integrity in here. Integrity, integrity, integrity. Also known as first step in crisis management.

But to BB: Palace just did do a cleanup. Although very politely and smart regarding it... if they cleaned up the right girls is a different question. Club standing is still higher than objectivity perhaps...

About attracting more hot girls: there are 2 hot apartment girls where I live (9s). One got here almost a year ago, and the other one 2-3 months ago. Rom and moldavian/ukrainian... both told me they knew about fkk's well, but felt the price was a bit too low with 50e. So they risk working here instead... one has worked at some place very near switzerland in germany (pic is still up on website). And she got 80 a session there. But club was a bit slow, so more business here... no upselling from her. The other girl upsells, so she is to be avoided... yet I think at a top fkk she'd get probably 30-40% more business... especially if fkk's manages to get their integrity back...

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2043373]We need to be positive when looking at the gouging. More hot girls will come once they get wind of 150 euro for 30 minutes!

The clubs are going to need to get a grip on this before all their clients leave (to NRW or other destinations around the world). They need not be afraid of firing girls like GT did.[/QUOTE]I think you may be seeing things from your "hardcore monger" goggles. Majority of men are just recreational mongers.

Excluding men who travel for business, probably 99.99% of mongers don't travel more than 200 km from their home for P6, especially if the P6 options in their local area are comparable quality and price. I mean, I don't even think I've ever met a guy from Spain in the FKKs. Thats a one hour plane ride. If the prices were to triple like you suggest, we might see mongers from other countries stay at home just like the Spanish mongers do.

If you talk to some of the local German or Dutch mongers (especially older gents), optiks is not even a consideration for them. They will say to me, "I know she's not much to look at, but. ". These men don't drive to three clubs a day looking for the hottest 19 year old. They will just settle for a WG they consider a "6" optik. If you were to ask many local men who attend Sharks, many will just answer that Sharks is the only club they really attend.

If you look at the figures of how many WGs are supposedly in DE, we start to realize that FKK girls only represent a small percentage. So their pricing needs to be competitive with the other options in the surrounding area. Even high-end WGs are affected by the prices of German P6 scene. It seems like porn star escorts stopped coming to DE since about 2014. In 2011-2012, they would be 250-300 EUR per hour via an agency. These porn stars would be booked solid, if they did a one week tour every year. But once they started doing tours more frequently, men got bored. Once a man lived out their fantasy of fucking a porn star once or twice, they got it out of their system, and reverted to cheaper options. So an asking price of 250 EUR per hour was not sustainable in the long term. In that sense, you are correct, because now these porn stars only tour Dubai, London, Brussels, Paris. But how many WGs can command porn star rates?

[QUOTE=McAdonis;2043462]because now these porn stars only tour Dubai, London, Brussels, Paris. But how many WGs can command porn star rates?[/QUOTE]And budapest because many euro pornstars are hungarian. And there you get them cheaper than 250. Still the idea of fucking a pornstar probably comes from the fact that you have seen them on camera... I did one once, but for just 100e. Guess she was a few years past her prime. So the pornstar term is too ambigous... But your point is good. The travelling cost is a major factor, and legal systems driving prices up where it gets riskier. But local mafia also taxes the girls. Read news stories of that a few times. And it happens in most if not all cities where girls work from apartments...

[QUOTE=Pv118;2043200]In the terma system in Brazil BBBJ and really enthusiastic women are the norm. If you want BBBJ and excellent sex, Brazil is good.[/QUOTE]And this is exactly why I have it number one and keep going back again and again! That, and oh, the high rate of anal sex (with no of very little upselling for that). You left that part out haha!

[QUOTE=Pistons;2043467]Still the idea of fucking a porn star probably comes from the fact that you have seen them on camera... I did one once, but for just 100e.[/QUOTE]I've never done a girl who I knew for sure was doing or had done porn. But I do know this. I have been with plenty whose performance was so damn good that I believe they "ought to be in pictures"! Hahaha! Whether they did porn or not, they sure the hell gave me the "porn star experience"!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2yX1dpAECc[/URL]

I wrote 3 pretty large report on Oase, so here's my report on Sharks now. I decided that Sharks and Oase were the two FKKs to check out due to the sheer volume of traffic on ISG regarding these two forums. I sessioned with 3 girls there, but since I was leaving the next morning and still wanted to check out the RLD, I only wanted to session with 2 girls at Sharks. I took the Train to Darmstadt, and then took a taxi to Sharks, unfortunately, there was both traffic and the road was shut off due to construction, so it cost me about 17 e. I go in, and it's much less high pressure like there is in Oase. Oase is a bit confusing to navigate since there's so much going on right at the entrance and it's not easy to figure things out especially if someone doesn't tour it for you. At sharks, it's much more easier, everything is out in the open, although it might take you a little bit to figure things out, but the shower area is right before the bar / lounge area. I came on a Tuesday and after showing, I head into the lounge area, where pretty much all of the girls are on display, with some in the back pool areas. I would say the amount of girls was decent, but the quality wasn't as great as at Oase. However, the distinct advantage is that the service here is much better.

I go out to the pool and chill out for a bit, but no one was there, and it was a bit chilly. A girl and her friend was sitting outside and called me over, which I declined.

I then head indoors, and the girl from outside immediately approaches me. Her name is Melanie and she's a 24 year old Romanian with big glasses. She told me that her name is the same as the US president's wife, but I informed her that it's MelanIA, not MelanIE. She didn't care and started acting a little bitchy because of it. Anyways, she sweet talks me for a bit, but I told her that I would be interested maybe later, I wanted to check out the place and girls for a little bit.

I get approached by several women for awhile.

1. Jessica (Moldavian, can speak Romanian): She's brunette, with an under bite, wears thick black glasses, black hair, and big fake tits and has been working at Sharks for 3+ years. She was super enthusiastic and in love with me. She kept sitting next to me, and chit chatted. If was were attracted to her, I would have sessioned as her attitude was fantastic, and her body was delicious.

I get approached by 3-4 other Romanians, 2 Ukrainians, 1 Spaniard, and a handful of other girls, but I turned them all down. And at this point, all of the girls at the place start to take notice. I think they believe that I'm just a cheapskate Charlie and not really there to be with any girls. But it's really that I have really high standards, and want to make sure there's good chemistry between the girl and I. I experienced the same thing at Oase, but it's less pressured and it wasn't back to back rejections, the girls slowly made their way to me to get rejected.

2. Adria (half Italian half German). This girl was probably one of the hottest in the entire place, and I noticed her pretty often. I was intent on sessioning with her first because of how exotic she looked. But when I went to talk to her, she was a total *****. I asked her where she was from, and she said: "half Italy, half Germany" and I made a joke about how she was born in both places? But she immediately got offended and bitchy. She explained how her mom is Italian and her father is German, but she's born and raised in Germany all of her life. It would have been perfect to have another German girl. But the conversation got awkward, tense, and intense. She kept asking me if I want to go with her to the room but I pointed out to her how she was being mean to me. After some awkward long pause, I wished her a good night. But for the rest of my time there, when I went to the bar to get water, she kept grabbing the seat right next to me, making the experience even more awkward. Honestly, if she wasn't such a *****, she could probably make a killing at the place. She has that "look", but she thinks she's a princess, even in this industry, so she expects the guys to come to her and do as she pleases. She needs to get off of her high horse.

I see Melanie walk back in, and I'm already spent too much time fucking off. I go up to her and told her that I've been waiting for her, she was putting on her makeup, so I figured she just sessioned with someone. We chit chat for a bit and decided to head to a room.

We agree to the terms, 30 minutes, BBBJ, CIM and she will throw in kissing and DATY because it's a 100 e session (even though I believe these things should be standard). I really like her personality, she's talkative and honest. We start the session with DFK. She then begins with a BBBJ, long and deep movements. When I ask her for 69, she tells me to be careful because of my little bit of facial hair on my chin. I eat her sweet young pussy and tongue fucked it, and it was delicious, and amazing while she was slobbing on my cock. I couldn't resist her asshole either, so I ate that as well, but she was caught off guard and jumped because of it, but didn't want me to continue.

We put on the cover and then she shows me her freshly shaved pussy. I eat it some more. I work her tits and nipples. And then she gets on top and rides me. The funny thing is, she doesn't make any noise, and I ask her about it. She also points out that I'm not making noise (I never do until near the end). She tells me she doesn't like faking it because it's too artificial. I flip her over for mish, and start to pound her, and now she's making noise. I DFK her some more. I flip her over for some doggy, but she has no ass to speak off, there's a little bit of meat in the middle, but that's it, and it's hardly grabbable. I then flip her back for some more mish, and I'm ready to explode, and tell her to get ready, but I want to get as close to cumming as possible through fucking. She offers to get me closer with her BBBJ instead but I turn her down. She tells me if I don't explode in her mouth, I still have to pay for CIM. So I fuck her for a little bit more, but not willing to take the risk, I let her bring me to completion. I get off of her, and take the cover off. I stand on the bed and sit back on the headboard of the bed to support me up when I cum. She BBBJs me fantastically, but her hair was getting in her way and asked me to hold it. While holding her hair, I start to skull'fuck her while she deep throats me. I ask her if she's ready for my cum because I'm about to explode in it. I blast a powerful first shots into her mouth, but they were full loud, and her tiny little mouth couldn't hold it and she has to spit the entire mouthful out onto the bed, but she quickly prepared her mouth for the rest, which she takes into her mouth. After I finish unloading all of my juices into her mouth, she spits it on the bed.

She was amazed at how much I came. I apologized for having so much cum in her mouth and she's the reason why I came so much and so hard. She told me how intense I became when I was holding her hair and head. She's a really good girl, and gave amazing service. I had a really fun and good conversation with her as well. I'm glad she's the first girl I sessioned with. I think the service at Sharks is much better than Oase, there's a lot less upselling here. I have one more report for Sharks, so standby for that upcoming report. Until then, Happy mongering fellas!

I've had a dozen girls or so of whom I know they've starred some Pornoprosa movies. Was it any better? Not really.

HB.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2043366]What a difference a year makes! Although the talent at Sharks was more or less the same as I remember that of last summer the dames are much less tolerant of HR, 50 euro sessions. Many providers especially the hotter ones told me that 50 e HR sessions are FS and BJ only. DATY was according to some only in 1 HR sessions and for others was 50 e more in HR, not to speak of DFK which apparently for some was not available at all. I was having none of it. Fortunately, unlike my one visit to Oase last year there was a multitude of girls and I was certain that I would find the HR 50 e girls who offered DATY and if lucky DFK as well. Needless to say there were indeed girls who offered HR sessions to my liking. The names I remember are petite thin Paulina from Bulgaria, Alisha from Romania and Aisha who says she was from Croatia (can anyone confirm that she is actually from Croatia? There were more whose names I can recall but have forgotten their respective countries. I finally settled for Ria from Romania who made it clear from the outset that DFK was not part of the package. She was cute and I went with her and a good time was had by all. For my next session I had to have DFK which is my next best aphrodisiac after pharmaceuticals. Guys, I don't know about you but I found DFK really hard to get from a reasonably attractive provider in a HR session. I had to use my experience to screen out those who said DFK was on the menu but my spidey sense told me it would not be worth it. I finally settled upon Kathy from Poland as I had to have DFK for a viable second session and she did not disappoint. She did attempt to ration DFK but my strategy was to give attention to another part of her anatomy when she did so and after a short while return to DFK. Also her BBBJ was excellent resulting in a hard on which was followed by the soldiers marching home before time. I'll be in Europe all summer and I can see that sooner or later I will have to fork out more money per session. I plan, however, to depart Germany by June 30 and am considering other countries within the region to pursue my hobby.[/QUOTE]I am afraid that you will find nothing better and cheaper in other countries. In fact if you say to the girl I will stay 1 or 2 hours you will get many things for free you just will have to pay the time.

Visited 3 times (2 hours 40 euros) this week, LU was always great, girls very friendly (I don t ask for 30 minutes 50 euros), from far the best LU if I compare to Oase, World, and GT. They are able to attract a lot of girls because they offer flexible working hours.

[QUOTE=HessenBub;2043514]I've had a dozen girls or so of whom I know they've starred some Pornoprosa movies. Was it any better? Not really.

HB.[/QUOTE]Point is that pornstars charge more, and there are men who see value in the experience and are willing to pay. Porn star is essentially a "brand name". Brand names aren't always higher quality or better performing. Pornstar in Los Angeles would cost $1500 USD per hour. Nothing stopping some FKK girl from moving to LA and trying to charge that rate, but I doubt she would get a single customer, even if she is prettier or performs better.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2043474]I've never done a girl who I knew for sure was doing or had done porn. But I do know this. I have been with plenty whose performance was so damn good that I believe they "ought to be in pictures"! Hahaha! Whether they did porn or not, they sure the hell gave me the "porn star experience"!

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2yX1dpAECc[/URL][/QUOTE]Sex is a brain story, I am not sure that a porn star is delivering better sex, just they increase the sexual power of some men.