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I had similar strange thing happened to me, met a girl on TF. She picked me up in nice car.

We went out to eat, She insist to pay, after that we went out to a bar and had a beer and played pool again.

She insisted to pay, As we were talking the truth came out. She was sugar baby of a Taiwanese bussniessman.

I believe he got rid of her cause she gained weight and not old and pretty anymore or something happened and she needed some company.

She came with me to my hotel, I fucked her brain out and even creampied her 2 times. Never paid her a penny.

Next day, Never heared from her again, she wouldent respond or answer. Oh well its Pattaya.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2915379]I just spent time with a lovely young lady (younger than me). She came by my room and picked me up on her motor bike. Took me to the restaurant of my choice. Made our order for us making sure I received all the modifications I wanted and that everything was correct. We enjoyed our meal together discussing things in our lives and just enjoying each others company.

This is a very different experience for me because I never used to enjoy the company of a girl outside of the bedroom. I just went through the motions to get the panties on the floor. After our meal, she offered to take me wherever I wanted to go. She had other errands to complete and so could not join me in the room. But she offered to come back the next day if I would have her. We hugged and she headed off on her motorbike waving to me as she left.

I am writing this while the experience is still fresh in my mind. Because I got back to my room and just laughed at all of my critics that be hating on me living my best life. The best part of Pattaya for me is not the girls. It is living life on my own terms. It is the things that I have the opportunity to enjoy that I didn't before because I was on my grind. It is the environment of peace that exists for me everyday. It is nice having just one individual who gives a fuck if I am still breathing day to day. That gentlemen is priceless.

I have to ask myself, why do I spend my precious time responding to those that are so devoid of happiness in their lives that they feel they need to spend it lashing out at me? I have no good answer for myself. Other than to admit, that I like the written tennis matches. Not like there is any risk at all. Other than maybe wanting that time back at some point. But I like to write. I am good at it. Those who want the last word, they won't get if from me if they continue to engage in a negative fashion.

[B]misleading positivity my ass[/B]!

I am feeling sorry for those whose lives are filled with the kind of extreme negativity to the point that it pervades everything they do in their lives. Since when did being overly positive create a problem? I believe in purpose. It is an inner thing. Does not matter where you happen to be. Your purpose is internal. It goes with you and drives and directs you everywhere you go.

So Pattaya may not be the best place for anyone one of you to hire prostitutes. I am not saying it is the best place for me to do that. But I can tell you that is the best place overall that I have ever lived. Since I do not travel just to hire prostitutes that is the only perspective I have the ability to share when writing about Pattaya. It is a good place for me to live.[/QUOTE]

I talked to few of them, what I found out. Some of them are refugees.

They either have student visas, or some sort of long term visas and they registered with UNHCR to resettled in third country.

Some of them are pimps who brought their girlfriends, sisters, or friend who they are pimping.

Girls just go around and seek custumer while they wait or watch out. I dout they are pushing any hard stuff.

[QUOTE=MissMaryHinge;2914411]My hotel is on Soi 11 and I saw, which I hadn't before- in 2022- , a dozen or so bucket-hatted black dealers toward the lower end of the Soi (toward Sukhumvit end), around and in the vicinity of the 7/11 (not the corner one) and. Standing alone or in small groups of threes or fours, I guess they're pushing harder stuff now.[/QUOTE]

To the guy I've been PM'ing with a bit over the past few days please clear your PM box. Can't respond to your questions. Also, a second attempt for Goatscrot to clear his PM box even though I've long forgotten what I wanted to say to you!

[QUOTE=MohdirFan82;2918081]I talked to few of them, what I found out. Some of them are refugees.

They either have student visas, or some sort of long term visas and they registered with UNHCR to resettled in third country.

Some of them are pimps who brought their girlfriends, sisters, or friend who they are pimping.

Girls just go around and seek custumer while they wait or watch out. I dout they are pushing any hard stuff.[/QUOTE]Yes, since they went legal with the weed, you can now find African guys selling harder stuff on the street. I enjoy smoking weed now and then, but I don't want people trying to sell me hard drugs walking down the sidewalk. It's the same way in Europe. It's always African immigrants selling. I imagine they have trouble finding other work, but I also suspect it's organized crime. It's too prevalent to be a coincidence.

I'm concerned that they will sour the Thai people on the idea of keeping weed legal. It's one thing to have people buying weed in shops. Getting harassed on the street is something else. I'd like it to stay legal. Of course, with the money the gov't is probably making, it would probably take something major to have them shut it down.

All this talk about bar girl this and bar girl that. Be men. Speak direct. Call them what they are. Prostitutes. Girls that you hire for companionship / sex or both. Does not matter where you find them they all are providing the same basic services.

That being said I have not found a prostitute that wants to anything other than earn her money and go spend it else where. The prostitutes that seek me out for return visits are good business people. Smart marketing. They do no ask me for money. They ask if they have more business with me. I cannot hate on someone trying to make their money.

The only girls that ask me for money have been from Bangkok. They have never met me and when I tell them they can com to Pattaya and have sex with me they are quick to claim they are not prostitutes. Nope, they are just quick to ask a stranger for money. I have only met one girl who was into me for the sex. No money other than her travel and the entertainment expenses for what I wanted to do while she was with me.

I personally do not understand all this talk about sponsorship and the draining of wallets. Maybe it happens. Maybe it does not. I do not know of one simple person that has a problem similar to what has been described here. It is like some ISG urban or YouTube legion. A friend of a friend of a friend. WTF?

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2918424]All this talk about bar girl this and bar girl that. Be men. Speak direct. Call them what they are. Prostitutes. Girls that you hire for companionship / sex or both. Does not matter where you find them they all are providing the same basic services.

That being said I have not found a prostitute that wants to anything other than earn her money and go spend it else where. The prostitutes that seek me out for return visits are good business people. Smart marketing. They do no ask me for money. They ask if they have more business with me. I cannot hate on someone trying to make their money.

The only girls that ask me for money have been from Bangkok. They have never met me and when I tell them they can com to Pattaya and have sex with me they are quick to claim they are not prostitutes. Nope, they are just quick to ask a stranger for money. I have only met one girl who was into me for the sex. No money other than her travel and the entertainment expenses for what I wanted to do while she was with me.

I personally do not understand all this talk about sponsorship and the draining of wallets. Maybe it happens. Maybe it does not. I do not know of one simple person that has a problem similar to what has been described here. It is like some ISG urban or YouTube legion. A friend of a friend of a friend. WTF?[/QUOTE]I have five or so bar girls from my rotation who are now back in the village because some lonely guy is giving them money for nothing. When the lonely guy runs out of money, the ladies will come back.

One lady has a yo-yo sponsor. He stops and starts. She never actually makes it to my place, because he will wire her cash after a fight.

And then there are ladies with minor sponsors, guys who send small amounts on an irregular basis. Sometimes that means that a bar girl will sleep in my condo rather than head out at midnight to secure another customer.

Its so facinating some westreners lonely guys, or Koreans / Japns send this girls money for no reason.

A girl I regularly talk from TF sends me screen shots always that her online friend / boyfriend sent her money for no damn reason.

They just want to hear good morning, good night and just someone keep talking to them.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2918472]I have five or so bar girls from my rotation who are now back in the village because some lonely guy is giving them money for nothing. When the lonely guy runs out of money, the ladies will come back.

One lady has a yo-yo sponsor. He stops and starts. She never actually makes it to my place, because he will wire her cash after a fight.

And then there are ladies with minor sponsors, guys who send small amounts on an irregular basis. Sometimes that means that a bar girl will sleep in my condo rather than head out at midnight to secure another customer.[/QUOTE]

I read a headline that expats will need to start paying taxes in 2025. I'm guessing this is tied into the other new announcement that digital nomads will be allowed to stay in Thailand for extended periods. Guys had been saying they will just switch their occupation from Retired to Digital Nomad since it seems to be a much easier way to stay long term in Thailand.

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2918777]I read a headline that expats will need to start paying taxes in 2025. I'm guessing this is tied into the other new announcement that digital nomads will be allowed to stay in Thailand for extended periods. Guys had been saying they will just switch their occupation from Retired to Digital Nomad since it seems to be a much easier way to stay long term in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Has nothing to do with being a expat. It has everything to do with tax law in Thailand and if you are a tax resident of Thailand. Being a Digital Nomad is not going to keep you from paying taxes if you fulfill the requirement to be a tax resident. As for the ease of getting the immigration status you desire I do not know. Individuals should seek counsel from trained Thai professionals if they need assistance with either taxation in Thailand or Immigration issues.

Define what you mean by [U]sponsor[/U] to me.

[QUOTE=Explorer8939;2918472]I have five or so bar girls from my rotation who are now back in the village because some lonely guy is giving them money for nothing. When the lonely guy runs out of money, the ladies will come back.

One lady has a yo-yo sponsor. He stops and starts. She never actually makes it to my place, because he will wire her cash after a fight.

And then there are ladies with minor sponsors, guys who send small amounts on an irregular basis. Sometimes that means that a bar girl will sleep in my condo rather than head out at midnight to secure another customer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2918831]Has nothing to do with being a expat. It has everything to do with tax law in Thailand and if you are a tax resident of Thailand. Being a Digital Nomad is not going to keep you from paying taxes if you fulfill the requirement to be a tax resident. As for the ease of getting the immigration status you desire I do not know. Individuals should seek counsel from trained Thai professionals if they need assistance with either taxation in Thailand or Immigration issues.[/QUOTE]I agree. However, it being Thailand I suspect I will not really know what is meant by "tax resident" until I am sitting across from the Immigration Officer wielding the O-A Long Stay (Retirement) Visa stamp and she tells me whether I need to pay Thai taxes or not in order to get the ink on it stamped into my passport. Even if I have been given expert, professional, paid advice about it beforehand, whatever that Immigration Officer was told about it that morning will prevail.

However, if Thailand decides to drop the decades' long No Dual Taxation agreement they have had with my country and that of every other expat and frequent long stay visitor I know and decide we are all now Thai "tax residents", that is going to create a mad rush of USD and other currency out of Thailand and into somewhere else.

Which does not sound like something the Thai Government is all that fired up to do in the near future.

True or not, this just in:

[B]THAILAND EASES VISA RULES TO BOOST ECONOMY URGENTLY.
May 28, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.khaosodenglish.com/life/tourism/2024/05/28/thailand-eases-visa-rules-to-boost-economy-urgently/[/URL]

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2918777]I read a headline that expats will need to start paying taxes in 2025. I'm guessing this is tied into the other new announcement that digital nomads will be allowed to stay in Thailand for extended periods. Guys had been saying they will just switch their occupation from Retired to Digital Nomad since it seems to be a much easier way to stay long term in Thailand.[/QUOTE]This new tax interpretation was announced last year, so has nothing to do with the latest Visa situation. Also the new DTV Visa only allows you to stay for 180 days per year with one option in 5 years to extend an additional 180 days. So not really an option if retired and living in Thailand year round.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2918883]that is going to create a mad rush of USD and other currency out of Thailand and into somewhere else.

Which does not sound like something the Thai Government is all that fired up to do in the near future.[/QUOTE]Maybe this is Thailand trying to tell you to hold its beer.

[URL]https://www.cointribune.com/en/thailand-and-china-ditching-the-dollar/[/URL]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2918883]I agree. However, it being Thailand I suspect I will not really know what is meant by "tax resident" until I am sitting across from the Immigration Officer wielding the O-A Long Stay (Retirement) Visa stamp and she tells me whether I need to pay Thai taxes or not in order to get the ink on it stamped into my passport. Even if I have been given expert, professional, paid advice about it beforehand, whatever that Immigration Officer was told about it that morning will prevail.[/QUOTE]The definition of "tax resident" in Thailand is if you spend 180 days or more in Thailand you are considered a "Tax Resident". If you have income over a certain level derived by sources in Thailand you may be subject to tax on that income even if you are not a "tax resident". Of course all of this depends upon your personal tax situation.

You are correct. The relationship of tax residency to immigration status is unknown at this time.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2918832]Define what you mean by [U]sponsor[/U] to me.[/QUOTE]A sponsor is a customer who sends money to a bar girl after he goes home.

If it's small money, the bar girl will continue to work bar.

If the sponsor sends large money, there is the expectation that the bar girl will stop work, and maybe go back to the village.

In return, the sponsor gets. Nothing.

There are variations of the above. One lady has a sponsor who lives in Pattaya and gives 30,000 baht a month. The bar girl sees him a few days per month, and otherwise, lives with her Thai husband. She went to Kazakhstan with me for 2 weeks recently, told her sponsor some story.

Some sponsors convince themselves that they are the boyfriend. These are men who are not 100% with the program, and are awkward around women. They message the bar girl constantly, a major irritant for the bar girl.

Never give money to a bar girl if you aren't there, as it provides a financial incentive for her not to want to see you.