Is it small minded to discuss your future Presidents?
[QUOTE=Questner;2899127]Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people.
Eleanor Roosevelt.[/QUOTE]
I suppose, if you like discussing people of little consequence? [b]Is Trump a person of little consequence to you? [/b]
So if you think talking about a 2x impeached, 4x indicted, insurrectionist and Repub fmr.president, who is now the Repub candidate for the 2024 US Election, isn't controversial and worthy of debating, when he says things like [b]"America SUCKS!"[/b] and [b]"America is a JOKE!"[/b], then perhaps you can explain to me, why spend multiple thousands of time in man hours and billions of dollars on coverage to pick a new president. Should we just hold a [i]rock-paper-scissors contest[/i] for the US presidency?
If your ideal candidate, is someone that loves to utter slurs that degrade and denigrates America, the very country in which he plans to hold office and that doesn't bother you as to the character of your president or for the vision (or lack thereof) that he has for America and Americans, then I guess Trump's your man.
Better yet, if I were to [b]take your quote and apply it to Trump[/b] (as the list of people he's insulted, defamed, besmirched and bad-mouthed, could wallpaper the White House 2x over), he has NO discernible CHARACTER, has NO VISION for America and NO PLANS ([u]unlike what Obama/Biden did for example with the [i]2016 AI Development Initiative Plans[/i],[/u] where today, the US is now the world leader in AI tech), or IDEAS with which to take the US to the next level. None! Unless you consider, "...drill baby, drill"?
So where exactly do you see Trump? Great, Average or Small minded?
I often like to use the quote: [i]"Great minds think alike and small/weak minds seldom differ"[/i]
National Security as well as Border Security...the REAL Solution!
With Trump, about to receive classified documents again, it is obvious to Americans, that US national security, is at risk and in peril, once again.
If for a moment, we consider his past record with classified information, is there really any doubts, he already has plans to hawk said classified information/documents, to the Russians, Saudi Arabia and/or North Koreans...etc, to pay for his half-a-billion (plus and counting) in civil lawsuits, w/r to several defamation cases and running a corrupt and fraudulent business in the state of NY?
So it could be argued, Americans should be more worried about Trump putting [b]US national security[/b] at risk and in danger, more so than the [b]border security[/b] issue, that is more than solvable, especially given the bi-partisan bill, that just passed by the US Senate. Don't forget is was [u]Trump who put the kibosh on the border bill[/u] in the House, for petty politics and of course, 'cause he'd have nothing to campaign on.
Therefore, when you take into account, what is the [b]"constant variable",[/b] with both these problematic equational political issues, plaguing America, the answer is unequivocally...Trump!
As simply as it sounds, take out this malignant variable and eh Voil!...Americans solve both problems, with one voting strike. Problems SOLVED!
PS: Again, let's not overlook some of the [b]benefits to immigration[/b], as recently noted here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=2898096&viewfull=1#post2898096[/URL]
A possible plan to disinform America-hating Trump and his America-hating buddies
[QUOTE=Spidy;2899690]With Trump, about to receive classified documents again, it is obvious to Americans, that US national security, is at risk and in peril, once again.
If for a moment, we consider his past record with classified information, is there really any doubts, he already has plans to hawk said classified information/documents, to the Russians, Saudi Arabia and/or North Koreans...etc, to pay for his half-a-billion (plus and counting) in civil lawsuits, w/r to several defamation cases and running a corrupt and fraudulent business in the state of NY?
So it could be argued, Americans should be more worried about Trump putting [b]US national security[/b] at risk and in danger, more so than the [b]border security[/b] issue, that is more than solvable, especially given the bi-partisan bill, that just passed by the US Senate. Don't forget is was [u]Trump who put the kibosh on the border bill[/u] in the House, for petty politics and of course, 'cause he'd have nothing to campaign on.
Therefore, when you take into account, what is the [b]"constant variable",[/b] with both these problematic equational political issues, plaguing America, the answer is unequivocally...Trump!
As simply as it sounds, take out this malignant variable and eh Voil!...Americans solve both problems, with one voting strike. Problems SOLVED!
PS: Again, let's not overlook some of the [b]benefits to immigration[/b], as recently noted here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?2467-American-Politics&p=2898096&viewfull=1#post2898096[/URL][/QUOTE]The best move on behalf of USA National Security is to feed Trump strategically-crafted disinformation disguised as "real" classified information.
Trump acting on it himself or peddling such disinformation to America's enemies and adversaries might be the only way for Trump to finally accomplish something of a net positive for America in his entire adult life, however inadvertent and unintentional it might be.
The emprical evidence is now overwhelming and impossible to ignore
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2899603]First off, it is one thing to blame or credit a president with anything. Blaming Trump for the pandemic or giving Biden credit for going back to work after lockdowns ended is folly to me. You need to explain to me what said president did to affect the positive or negative change. Unlike the douches with their Republicans bad / Dems good diatribe, I can give Dems credit. Clinton raised taxes, balanced the budget, and made the economy went boom. The irony is the Clintons have gone from populism to elitists IMO and that is why HRC lost.
The latest Democrat twist is to say there is not an issue with the border.
So is the border problem Biden's fault? To that, the facts show not just yes but hell yes.
The EO also revoked the following executive actions:
Executive Order 13767, issued on January 25,2017, which directed executive agencies to secure the southern border and prevent illegal immigration into the United States, and called for immediate construction of a wall along the southern border.
Proclamation 9880, issued on May 8, 2019, which deemed immigrants who entered the United States without inspection ineligible for asylum.
Presidential Memorandum of April 29,2019, which prevented certain asylum seekers from pursuing any other form of immigration relief, required adjudication of asylum cases within 180 days of filing, imposed an application fee for asylum claims, and barred asylum seekers who entered the United States without inspection from receiving work authorization while their applications were pending.
Presidential Memorandum of April 6, 2018, which prevented DHS from releasing immigrants from detention while their immigration cases were pending.
Presidential Memorandum of April 4, 2018, which deployed the National Guard to secure the southwest border.
So yeah, Biden owns the border mess.
Seeing as how Democratic douches love attacking sources, the guy making this video is very pro-Ukraine. He has a Ukrainian wife and made videos condemning Putin. He is part of the group that is the new media because at this point, the mainstream is so bad that you know what they are going to say before they say it.
For me, the video was confirmation that the people ending up on the border seeking asylum are from all over the world and are not Mexican. It is an organized effort to skirt American law that benefits Mexican drug cartels. RFK Jr. Had a video showing the same thing.
If you ever want to know what Trump derangement syndrome is, you cannot get it any better than with the wall. Trump used tax payer dollars to buy supplies to build the wall. The Biden administration came in and literally said we are not going to use any of the materials that the Trump administration bought, and those supplies are sitting there to this day. Yes, the Biden administration is that fucking petty and that stupid. This video shows said supplies.
What has not been shown is illegal immigrants coming in wearing Biden t-shirts, but I am sure I will see one showing that.
Between this and Merrick Garland's latest speech condemning the use of voter ID laws shows the great criminal enterprise Biden is undertaking. He is literally allowing illegals to come into the USA to vote for him and paying them off with USA tax dollars. It is not even subtle.
Like you see with the Democratic douches here, they do not care if it is only Americans voting in the election. All they care about is if their side wins.
In 2020, if I were a judge, I would be skeptical of having to step in and possibly overturn an election, but the Dems have made it easy now with the complete fucking idiocy that went on in Colorado and Maine where Trump was tried to be taken off the ballot. And we have seen Dems weaponize the justice system to go after Trump and all these cases that just happen to materialize right before the election? At least in 2020 if there was massive cheating, it was hidden well enough that judges could not act. Now it is out in the open, and they are going to have to act if there are issues in the election. Well, at this point, we know there will be horrific cheating. It is just how well can it be hidden.
Quite frankly, with Biden mouthing off to the Supreme Court last night and openly bragging about and defying them with student loan forgiveness, I do not think judges will sit on the sidelines this time.
Dems were given a 9 to 0 loss the last time they tried to cheat and win an election without having it decided by voters.
So here is the video on the border that some here have suggested is not a problem: [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdYAYgbf5Uc[/URL].
It is very much worth watching.[/QUOTE]Who are the Dems asserting there is no issue with the border?
After Obama-Biden handed Trump the lowest rate of illegal crossings in 50 years, then Trump's policies and stewardship twice spiked up those illegal crossings to near record highs, then Trump decimated the legal Immigration system just as he was getting kicked out of office, which created the years long delays in investigating and processing asylum-seekers before turning back and deporting the fakers as is required by the USA Constitution, one of the first moves Biden made when he took over in the midst of still another "Once in 100 Years" Repub Disaster that only happens under Repubs and during virtually every Repub Presidency, was to propose and submit a plan for comprehensive Immigration Reform.
It never got an iota of interest from enough Congressional Repubs to even consider it much less pass it with the required 60 seats in the Senate.
So then the fully bipartisan-negotiated Border Bill recently submitted for Pink Tinkle House approval was killed by Trump when he ordered them to leave the borders Open and a Mess now and into the future, possibly forever, so he can use the issue to get back into the WH and again find a "Once in 100% Years" Catastrophic Repub Disaster to embrace, exacerbate and exploit to once again Crash the Economy and Wipe Out Millons upon Millions of Jobs, Supply-Chains, whatever.
Last night, when Biden was listing all the supposed Repub Border Control Wishes contained in the bill that Trump killed, the camera cut to the Ruby Red Repub Senator from Ruby Red Repub Oklahoma who was the top Ruby Red Repub negotiator of the bill, Lankford, to catch him smiling sardonically and mouthing the words, ,"That's true. ".
The Ruby Red Repub Senator from Ruby Red Repub Alabama who delivered the typically lie-filled GOP response to Biden's terrific SOTU Address, where she devoted a huge percentage of her weepy rant to her Party's Preferred Open Border Mess was also on the GOP negotiation team for that bill that Trump killed by ordering the Pink Tinkle Repub House Majority to reject it.
Still confused about which side wants to clean up Trump's Open Borders Mess and which side only wants to keep it going and complain about it?
Obviously, Biden and the Dems are the only ones taking border control seriously.
Trump's Wall? LOL. The Trump / GW Bush of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, had a Wall, relied on it and slept soundly next to it. How did that work out for Israel's Border Control and National Security?
Trump is going to need an even bigger Wall to hide behind in order to dodge appearing in public on a debate stage vs Joe Biden as he hid and dodged appearing on a debate stage even vs his definition of a "Birdbrain" GOP opponent.
President Biden delivers a brilliant SOTU...
President Biden's delivered a SOTU speech that was just brilliant and give the American people a triumphant acknowledgement of his resolute stewardship, with eyes looking forward (not backwards, like his predecessor) and with more success to come for America.
Highlights:
[QUOTE]"...when you get to be my age, certain things become clear. I know the American story. Again, again and again, I've seen the contest between competing forces in the battle for the soul of Out Nation. Between those who want to pull America back to the past and who want to pull America into the future. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]My lifetime as taught me to embrace freedom and democracy, a future based on core values, that defined America. Honesty, dignity, decency, equality...to RESPECT EVERYONE. to give everyone a fair shot, to give hate no safe harbor. Now some other people my age, they see it different. An American story of resentment, revenge and retribution...that's NOT ME!" [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"...for years I've heard many of my Repubs and Dems friends say that China is on the Rise and America is falling behind. They've got it backwards! I've been saying it for over 4 years, even when I wasn't president. America is rising, we have the best economy in the world...in a thousand cities and towns, the American people are writing the GREATEST COMEBACK STORY NEVER TOLD! {...standing ovation and applause...}"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"...my predecessor, a former president...bowing down to a Russian leader. I think it's outrageous, dangerous and unacceptable.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"...in my career, I've be told I was too young, ....now I'm being told I'm too old (chuckles and laughs from Congress) ...Whether young or old, Ive always known what endures. Our North Star"[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]"...it's not about how old you are, [u]it's about how old your IDEAS are."[/u][/QUOTE]
In another dig at Trump and Repubs looking down in shame over Jan 6th:
[QUOTE]"This is a moment to speak the truth and bury the lies... And here's the simplest truth. [b]You can't love your country [u]only[/u] when you win..."[/b][/QUOTE]
Now that's how you talk to the US Congress, the US House, the press and the more than 32 million American people (and millions more around the world), watching the [b]14th Best President in US History,[/b] deliver an impeccable, intelligible, meaningful yet balanced with a great outlook for American's future, all wrapped in a brilliant 2024 SOTU speech.
Biden knocked the ball, out of the park! Well done President Joe Biden, on another triumph!
[b]PS:[/b] I gotta say, it is once again refreshing to hear and see, a President who isn't afraid to poke fun at himself, or to counter what other say about him, with a sharp wit and levity. Yes refreshing indeed!
Even Fux News' Economics Expert Agrees With Biden on his economy
No doubt about it; after Trump's economic and national security policies, stewardship and lies converted a likely easily manageable endemic confined to one region in China into the historic deadly, worldwide economy Crashing, Supply-Chain collapsing, millions upon millions of jobs-destroying, Hyper Inflation-triggering Pandemic it became, Joe Biden's Great Dem Recovery has produced the Strongest Economy in the World.
According to Ultra Winger Fux News Economic Expert, Stephen Moore, in agreement with Joe Biden himself:
[B]Stephen Moore Agrees With Biden, US Economy Best In The World[/B]
[URL]https://crooksandliars.com/2024/03/stephen-moore-agrees-pres-biden-us-economy[/URL]
[QUOTE]"One thing President Biden said that was true," Stephen Moore said. "It is true that the United States today have the strongest economy. There's no question about it if you look at what's happening in Europe today, Germany, France, Japan and China they are not growing..."
After claiming most of the world's economies are suffering, he finished with this.
"That's something that's important to cheer," said Moore.
The facts, figures, and numbers are so strong that even these idiots can't deny that the US economy is roaring under President Biden.[/QUOTE]Also, considering Trump's "best" first 3 years only ranked #7 out of the recent 11 presidents' economies (means it now ranks #8 among the recent 12), he kept America's military actively involved in a War throughout his entire presidency while we are no longer actively involved in any War anywhere and haven't been for 3 years, that the violent crime rates are now at decades' lows and Constitutional Oath-Breaking Insurrectionists like Donald Trump as well as his violent, cop-killing cult followers have finally been indicted for their crimes, by every important metric and definition, America is today inarguably more prosperous, more peaceful, more stable, the legal system far more just and, therefore, all Americans have experienced a far better result, are much, much better off and are in store for a much better future today than they experienced and faced five years ago, six years ago and seven years ago.
Unless a "Once in 100 Years Disaster" Repub is given control of the levers again and plunges us into another one of the Repub Party's patented Great Repub Recession / Depression and Massive Repub Jobs Destruction, that is.
Good questions, I'd like to hear more...
[QUOTE=Questner;2899718]I know that people get a flu in a group but loose their marbles alone.[/QUOTE]
Uhh?
[QUOTE=Questner;2899718]What's about the bold text and capitals?[/QUOTE] Have you NEVER before seen newsprint, articles, magazines, poetry and/or books, that have [b]words[/b] or [b]sentences[/b] in [b]bold[/b] or CAPITALIZATION? Or [i]italics[/i]? Or when words are [u]underlined?[/u]
It is a very common thing writers, penmen, poets, wordsmiths columnists and authors will do for [u]any number of [b]emphatic[/b] stylistic reasons.[/u]
[QUOTE=Questner;2899718]It's very simple for the last couple of years.
Is America more prosperous? More peaceful? More stable? How confident is the average American in his economic future? Has the legal system become more just? How much is borrowed against the well-being of the future generation? Is it sustainable? Etc.
[URL]https://youtu.be/bPd55rmNgzk?si=AEdRJNAiPHtzQb2c[/URL][/QUOTE]Lot of good questions here, with a wide range of topics, I would love to debate. But I'm afraid I didn't catch the video and what it meant in relation, w/r to each your questions.
Could you explain each of your points of view w/r to the questions your asking? Yes, please state your cases!
BTW, the simple answer to all of your questions could easily be "YES", "YES", "Very", "Depends", "Depends", "Probably", but that's not exactly a debate...now is it?
