[QUOTE=Dg8787;2572355]And where is this information from?[/QUOTE]The OP's imagination. I just did a quick fact check and everything stated in his very first post in incorrect. He'll do well on ISG!
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[QUOTE=Dg8787;2572355]And where is this information from?[/QUOTE]The OP's imagination. I just did a quick fact check and everything stated in his very first post in incorrect. He'll do well on ISG!
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WHO has just warned that the delta variant is surging in the US and Europe. This new variant is immune to all vaccines especially NRA ones. Worse, natural immunity doesn't seem to hold well against it.
.[/QUOTE]NRA is the national rifle association in the US you have searched the wrong term. There is no natural immunity to this virus. The variants are not immune to the vaccines, it may be less effective but the delta variant is not immune to the vaccines. ANZ Chimp vaccine is highly dangerous and 100% ineffective along with sputnik and the China vaccines. You are guzzling down that Chinese and Russian propaganda. Biden didn't hand over the keys to mRNA because mRNA is a bio weapon in itself which is the defense against these bioweapons, so they are trying to bash it. Chinese people across their country are losing their hearing and massive side effects from the Chinese vaccine which has 0 effect on the variants same goes for AZN. Reason the world is letting Americans in is because they are mRNA vaccinated for the most part. A lot of your information is propaganda and misguided unfortunately. Another miss conception you seem to have is that the vaccine prevents infection. That it does not at all it does is prevent death / greatly limits the chance of death. So that tiny death rate drops another 99% so you have a 0. 02%-99% chance of dying from covid after vaccination. People can and do still get the virus. Don't read to far into these propagandized statistics. The same people said the deaths rate was multiples higher than it actually was and it was just outright poorly crafted projections not based in any reality, they get paid to create panic and click bait. No real way to stop people like you from confirming your confirmation bias that the world is ending but it isn't. Europe is actually kind a fucked because AZN is totally in effective and does have horrible side effects don't inject yourself with anything that comes from a chimp. MRNAs effectiveness is lower where variants are concerned in some cases but it IS effective enough to protect against death. Which makes this a cold unless you were pre-covid afraid of dying from the flu or common cold in which case no hope for you. Covid existed as lesser forms and we have all been infected by a lesser strain of covid before this and you did live because it wasn't novel, the vaccines add the immunity you need to downgrade what we know as covid to the common cold covid level, its what the doctors used to tell you when they didn't understand what you had a part of what we know as the common cold.
Chinese media criticise Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine, tout local shots.
[URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccine-china-idUSKBN29P1HT[/URL]
DHS Now Tracking SARS-CoV-2 Variant of Concern be. 1. 617.2, the Delta Variant.
[URL]https://www.dhs.wisconsin.gov/news/releases/061621.htm[/URL]
[QUOTE=MontanaMonger;2572384]NRA is the national rifle association in the US you have searched the wrong term. There is no natural immunity to this virus. The variants are not immune to the vaccines, it may be less effective but the delta variant is not immune to the vaccines. ANZ Chimp vaccine is highly dangerous and 100% ineffective along with sputnik and the China vaccines. You are guzzling down that Chinese and Russian propaganda. Biden didn't hand over the keys to mRNA because mRNA is a bio weapon in itself which is the defense against these bioweapons, so they are trying to bash it. Chinese people across their country are losing their hearing and massive side effects from the Chinese vaccine which has 0 effect on the variants same goes for AZN. Reason the world is letting Americans in is because they are mRNA vaccinated for the most part. A lot of your information is propaganda and misguided unfortunately. Another miss conception you seem to have is that the vaccine prevents infection. That it does not at all it does is prevent death / greatly limits the chance of death. So that tiny death rate drops another 99% so you have a 0. 02%-99% chance of dying from covid after vaccination. People can and do still get the virus. Don't read to far into these propagandized statistics. The same people said the deaths rate was multiples higher than it actually was and it was just outright poorly crafted projections not based in any reality, they get paid to create panic and click bait. No real way to stop people like you from confirming your confirmation bias that the world is ending but it isn't. Europe is actually kind a fucked because AZN is totally in effective and does have horrible side effects don't inject yourself with anything that comes from a chimp.[/QUOTE]ARN is just the acronym for genetic therapy in France so I just reverse it. Please don't patronize me.
I don't want to spend time arguing about Pfizer since you seem to cling to any last bit of relevance from this brand. Nevertheless you appear to me a bit conservative about the efficiency of the miracle product. I would suggest 120% success rate.
Now, let's get back to business. 4 British Airways pilots died a week ago after their double jab Pfizer. Something never heard of in the entire history of the general aviation. BA held up a crisis meeting with the government in order to suggest that vaccines pilots should not take the air! Since 80% of their pilots have been vaccinated they are cornered. Now, that just confirm what I suspected months ago that vaccines would just add another layer of crap.
Hungary stats: Pfizer hold the record of death rate per 100 000 vaccinated people (36) Sputnik is way behind with 1.
90% of the deaths in Europe reported by Pharmaco vigilance (a state organisation). Are from Pfizer.
Studies start to show that Prion disease is one of many threat that Pfizer clients are facing in the coming years (30 mouses tested with Pfizer died within a week with prion which is brain meltdown). The list is endless.
One has to be fuckin naive to believe that a three weeks vaccine development against SRAS works miracle while every genetics therapies tested those last 15 years failed miserably. It can be the future for all I know but this is the present time.
I wish vaccines work, really. But they don't. North hemisphere countries enjoy the summer season. Let's see how it goes in October. I already have some ideas.
Israel, Russia currently face a surge of contaminations and Israel acknowledge that the situation is serious (all of their Guinea pigs are Pfizer related).
I intended to go back to Montevideo, Buenos Aires, Moscow but I suspect that the mess is far from over. We have officials handling this crisis on panic mode and that won't change.
Now, to close this vaccine topic, I'm not against getting jabbed but with the right move. I would seriously consider Vanelva by the end of the year. This is definitely the most serious contender and it's French. It's similar to the flu vaccine but improved. Ironically the European Commission which has been bought out by Pfizer lobbyists already dismissed Vanelva because the factories were in Scotland and not in Europe. It's all about the money not about the best interests of the people and Pfizer has spent hundreds of millions to make sure Europe is it's garden wall. Sputnik is forbidden along with the Chinese ones. European citizens have choices between experimental genetics therapy and. Moderna. This is joke.
The Delta variant is definitely not 'immune' to vaccines. Please do a simple google search, something like 'delta variant vaccine efficacy'. Don't spread misinformation. Ugh I hate the internet. Please everyone get vaccinated and this nonsense is over.
[QUOTE=Spiroulegroom;2572279]Don't hold your breath.
WHO has just warned that the delta variant is surging in the US and Europe. This new variant is immune to all vaccines especially NRA ones. Worse, natural immunity doesn't seem to hold well against it.
At the IHU of Marseilles France, over 40% of the new Covid entries are double jabbed Pfizer. In the UK we get close to 30%.
Pharmaco vigilance reports over 15000 deaths in the EU mostly Pfizer and over 1.5 M side effects with over half of them dead serious. Those number are staggering. At this rate we will have 50.000 deaths from Pfizer in Europe by the end of the year. Not to mention long term effects with blood diseases, prion disease and so on.
This function gain virus from Wuhan lab is one motherfucker that offset its low fatality rate by an endless and fast growing mutation process. Indonesia and the UK have officially started massive ivermectin treatment. At this stage this is the only way to contain the virus worldwide. But I fear NRA vaccines have already triggered a vicious circle of variants.[/QUOTE]
Mandaue City is half masturbating? Translating Tagalog is not bullet proof always get a 2nd opinion if you are translating tagalog or bisiya, the electronic translations are not great and often lead to misunderstandings. This is the reason why Filipinos often times struggle to translate what they are thinking / saying into English as to not sound like a total dumbass. Direct translations do not often times work that's why your filipina always answers with an "idea" of what she is thinking in tagalog. Its worst if they speak something they call jejemon the translators won't even decode jejemon. MOST cebuanas speak jejemon. Even if you do get access to their phones if they speak jejemon there's no one that can help you. Anyone who can read the jejemon is going to be just as illiterate. Its frustrating that they never have a direct answer but they are just as confused as you are unfortunately. One of the biggest problems I come across with some filipinas is they are so illiterate in any language not just English they have such limited vocabularies that meaningful communication is almost impossible. Thankfully this kind of means that you don't need to communicate your feelings in any meaningful way other than hand over some money as a measure of your love. Which results in a very easy path to sex. Pros and cons.
"Facebook apologizes for 'handy' translation gaffe in Mandaue City post about PNoy's death".
[URL]https://coconuts.co/manila/lifestyle/facebook-autotranslate-mandaue-city-half-mast/[/URL]
I am in the UK, and have not heard anything about this, so did a little research, and the BA aspect appears to be incorrect. [URL]https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-coronavirus-aviation-idUSL2N2NZ1ZO[/URL].
[QUOTE=Spiroulegroom;2572428]ARN is just the acronym for genetic therapy in France so I just reverse it. Please don't patronize me.
I don't want to spend time arguing about Pfizer since you seem to cling to any last bit of relevance from this brand. Nevertheless you appear to me a bit conservative about the efficiency of the miracle product. I would suggest 120% success rate.
Now, let's get back to business. 4 British Airways pilots died a week ago after their double jab Pfizer. Something never heard of in the entire history of the general aviation. BA held up a crisis meeting with the government in order to suggest that vaccines pilots should not take the air! Since 80% of their pilots have been vaccinated they are cornered. Now, that just confirm what I suspected months ago that vaccines would just add another layer of crap.
Hungary stats: Pfizer hold the record of death rate per 100 000 vaccinated people (36) Sputnik is way behind with 1.
90% of the deaths in Europe reported by Pharmaco vigilance (a state organisation). Are from Pfizer.
Studies start to show that Prion disease is one of many threat that Pfizer clients are facing in the coming years (30 mouses tested with Pfizer died within a week with prion which is brain meltdown). The list is endless.
One has to be fuckin naive to believe that a three weeks vaccine development against SRAS works miracle while every genetics therapies tested those last 15 years failed miserably. It can be the future for all I know but this is the present time.
I wish vaccines work, really. But they don't. North hemisphere countries enjoy the summer season. Let's see how it goes in October. I already have some ideas.
Israel, Russia currently face a surge of contaminations and Israel acknowledge that the situation is serious (all of their Guinea pigs are Pfizer related).
I intended to go back to Montevideo, Buenos Aires, Moscow but I suspect that the mess is far from over. We have officials handling this crisis on panic mode and that won't change.
Now, to close this vaccine topic, I'm not against getting jabbed but with the right move. I would seriously consider Vanelva by the end of the year. This is definitely the most serious contender and it's French. It's similar to the flu vaccine but improved. Ironically the European Commission which has been bought out by Pfizer lobbyists already dismissed Vanelva because the factories were in Scotland and not in Europe. It's all about the money not about the best interests of the people and Pfizer has spent hundreds of millions to make sure Europe is it's garden wall. Sputnik is forbidden along with the Chinese ones. European citizens have choices between experimental genetics therapy and. Moderna. This is joke.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Spiroulegroom;2572428]ARN is just the acronym for genetic therapy in France so I just reverse it. Please don't patronize me.
I don't want to spend time arguing about Pfizer since you seem to cling to any last bit of relevance from this brand. Nevertheless you appear to me a bit conservative about the efficiency of the miracle product. I would suggest 120% success rate.[/QUOTE]Spiroul,
I checked some of the claims you made. I wish you did more due diligence before you make claims that affect people's lives. I am a pilot and double vaccinated with Pfizer. And I can assure you that there is no such talk about vaccine related panic among pilots nor airlines. Not one person has brought it up. FAA requires disclosure of any medical concerns. BA is not going to risk losing their charter in USA by hiding such key info about pilots. They would rather ground their fleet and claim insurance payout than crash planes.
How many planes have crashed worldwide? How many mayday calls have been called due to pilot health concerns in the sky due to vaccine? Answer is none. Because FAA and ATC compiles such data worldwide. And none of the mayday calls have been related to Pfizer or any vaccine. So as an industry insider I can confirm you are spreading garbage info. I trust you truly believe your inference, but sadly you are misinformed. I pray that you do a bit more due diligence before spreading such information. Even if you believe it to be true.
Travel requirements (by province). Try:
[URL]https://www.s-pass.ph/[/URL]
Nice website, easy to find your province / area. Couple of caveats, as mentioned in the pic:
* Some areas are RESTRICTED (you need a Travel Coordination Permit, TCP) for travel there. Other areas are not. Unrestricted by passing thru RESTRICTED area: You need a Travel Pass-through Permit (TPP).
* Thumbtack icon indicates the province has cities or brgy within that have different travel policies.
* Like reserving your hotel, it never hurts to call your LGU (Brgy hall or city's Mayor's office) to confirm your travel document needs.
Thanks to the Board member who passed this along to me.
[QUOTE=Spiroulegroom;2572279]
Pharmaco vigilance reports over .....
[/QUOTE]The posts from this user need to be deleted.
[QUOTE=BrizLad;2576119]The posts from this user need to be deleted.[/QUOTE]I'm not trying to change anyone's mind about COVID vaccines, but I think it's important to get the facts straight. As a Doc who has worked on numerous vaccines for over 20 years, I think I can address the science:
Moderna and Pfizer: These are mRNA vaccines, they do not get into human DNA, but they make the COVID spike protein and then the body makes an immune response (antibodies along with be and T cell response). These vaccines, to date, appear to be effective against the common variants such as Delta (indian).
Astra-Zeneca, J&J and Sputnik: These are known as "vector vaccines" because a common human or animal virus is taken, made non infectious, and reprogramed to enter the human cell nucleus (where out DNA is) and using the same mechanism that we use to make more human DNA, these vaccines make mRNA which then makes spike protein and then the body makes antibodies and be and T cells. These vaccines are a bit less effective than the Pfizer / moderna vaccines (and we don't know why).
-Sinovac and other Chinese vaccines: These use very old technology, they take COVID virus and kill it (so it cannot cause infection) and mix it with an aluminum salt to cause irritation on injection which helps stimulate the immune response more. These vaccines are much less effective and in studies and real world use, this is so, less effective.
-All the vaccines reduce severe COVID disease to different degrees. That was the aim of the development. To keep people out of the hospital and from dying.
-None of the vaccines are 100% effective.
-In a recent study with the Pfizer vaccine, patients who got no doses, 1 dose, 2 doses and 2 doses + waiting 2 more weeks were examined to see rates of COVID (these were health care workers taking care of COVID patients). Workers taking care of COVID patients who got 2 doses after 2 weeks later had an infection rate of 5% (and none were seriously ill). Vaccines appear to work in real life as well as studies. All the other groups had much higher infection rates.
All of the vaccines (like all drugs) have the potential for side effects. But, COVID infection has a lot more bad effects than the vaccines.
This is the science, not from running a Google search or reading blogs from people who don't read the science. Sorry. Those are the facts as judged by peer review research.
But again. Working in vaccine clinics here in the USA. I know you can't change people's minds. So I don't try to. I only present the facts.
And no, I don't support Dr. Fauci!
GG.
[QUOTE=GenevaGuy;2576144]I'm not trying to change anyone's mind about COVID vaccines, but I think it's important to get the facts straight. As a Doc who has worked on numerous vaccines for over 20 years, I think I can address the science:
Moderna and Pfizer: These are mRNA vaccines, they do not get into human DNA, but they make the COVID spike protein and then the body makes an immune response (antibodies along with be and T cell response). These vaccines, to date, appear to be effective against the common variants such as Delta (indian).
Astra-Zeneca, J&J and Sputnik: These are known as "vector vaccines" because a common human or animal virus is taken, made non infectious, and reprogramed to enter the human cell nucleus (where out DNA is) and using the same mechanism that we use to make more human DNA, these vaccines make mRNA which then makes spike protein and then the body makes antibodies and be and T cells. These vaccines are a bit less effective than the Pfizer / moderna vaccines (and we don't know why).
-Sinovac and other Chinese vaccines: These use very old technology, they take COVID virus and kill it (so it cannot cause infection) and mix it with an aluminum salt to cause irritation on injection which helps stimulate the immune response more. These vaccines are much less effective and in studies and real world use, this is so, less effective..[/QUOTE]Much appreciate the vaccine primer. I've already had covid, and I'm curious as to whether there's yet been a documented case of anyone previously infected contracting covid a second time?
[QUOTE=DriveAllNight;2576160]Much appreciate the vaccine primer. I've already had covid, and I'm curious as to whether there's yet been a documented case of anyone previously infected contracting covid a second time?[/QUOTE]Very simply. Yes. You can get COVID again if you already had it. Most likely due to one of the variants. The immunity produced by natural infection is much more specific for the exact virus you had, and less effective against the variants. That's why you need to get COVID vaccine. Because the immunity produced with the vaccine is much "broader" against variants (and the original).
Here is a great medical summary take a look, if you have questions, feel free to PM me:
[URL]https://www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1605[/URL]
GG.
There is a consumer-advocacy government department, the Dept of Industry / Trade. Got a consumer complaint? Nah, never. Website:
[URL]https://www.dti.gov.ph/konsyumer/complaints/[/URL]
And the complaint form you must fill out and email back. Or hand-carry it to the Manila office:
[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ilL7KAK3i5SnREX01xRUp5azg/view?resourcekey=0-8zpjhWqGK93jSDlcAQ6sMg[/URL]
Unfortunately, the. Pdf complaint form is not keyboard fill-able. You download it, print it out, fill it out by hand, then have it scanned at the cafe, and finally email it back to: [EMAIL]consumercare@dti.gov.ph[/EMAIL].
This process, of not being able to fill out the form online, of having to go to an internet cafe (or such) with a printer, then filling it out, then scanning and then emailing it, in itself deserves a consumer complaint. But, that's just me.
[QUOTE=WestCoast1;2576611]There is a consumer-advocacy government department, the Dept of Industry / Trade. Got a consumer complaint? Nah, never. Website:
[URL]https://www.dti.gov.ph/konsyumer/complaints/[/URL]
And the complaint form you must fill out and email back. Or hand-carry it to the Manila office:
[URL]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0ilL7KAK3i5SnREX01xRUp5azg/view?resourcekey=0-8zpjhWqGK93jSDlcAQ6sMg[/URL]
Unfortunately, the. Pdf complaint form is not keyboard fill-able. [/QUOTE]Or use an online converter PDF to Word, fill it out and reconvert to a PDF. Or subscribe to acrobat reader which will allow editing. Or use a free online pdf editor.