Kyiv

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;1685869]Jojo,

Thanks for the useful information and warning.

It looks like the first thing for me to do is to ask for a Skype session to see what she looks like.

If she rejects it, then I'll think of the second strategy.[/QUOTE]You know, mamba used to have this video chat attached to the chat window, right? I wonder why they stopped it.

Hello people!

I have been to Kiev in 2013.

I usually try to meet normal girls in the cities I go (I had a relationship with a Latvian girl for 2 years, and with a Russian girl for a year in the past).

So I tried this in Kiev too! I met a part-time model, who really liked me, but didn't want to have sex from our first meeting. So it was all kissing and touching.

I later invited her to my country and we spent 1 week holidays together. Of course I paid for her ticket and hotels, food etc. We had a great time!

Later when she went back to Kiev she asked me for some money to buy clothes. When I said I will not do that she got angry and said that "I used her", and we stopped talking.

(recently we talked again and she wanted to come again to my country and that maybe "I changed". I told her I can invite her but never give her money and that I don't want to be a sponsor, and she got again angry and said that she never wanted a sponsor, just for me taking care of her. Anyway. We saw things differently.

I also met a girl from Mamba, a cute blondie, which after we agreed to meet she asked me if I can give some money to her because she is in a difficult period, and we will have an amazing time together!

I asked her how much? And she told me "whatever you want". Since I really liked her, I offered her 100 euro, which is much, I know. She came to my apartment and she was shy and surely felt non-professional. Earned every euro from these 100!

(Now I tried to contact her again but she has erased her mamba profile, but also her email account.).

Also, I met another "normal" girl, who was gorgeous in her photos. In reality, she had gained 10+ kilos and was really chubby. We went to DLux, and while I went to the toilet I was wondering how I will get rid of her, but to my surprise, when I went back to the place I left her she was gone! She actually left me! It was a funny situation.

Now, I am coming again to Kiev. I have arranged 2-3 double-dates from mamba (I am coming with a friend) with probably "normal" girls, and got some offers from professional ones.

If things don't go well with our meetings, which is a big probability, where will you advice me to go on a Friday / Saturday night, to find the most beautiful professionals?

To Skybar? Another club? Rio? Another strip club?

Your subjective opinion is really valuable to me.

Thank you all! Keep walking!

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;1685593]

I don't mind her sending a few dollars to see what happens...lol.[/QUOTE]There is another way, you could by her the bus ticket online ([URL]http://e-travels.com.ua/en[/URL]#) she could get the ticket at the bus station. If she insist you send the money not the ticket then you get your answer.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=NightOwl69;1685977]There is another way, you could by her the bus ticket online ([URL]http://e-travels.com.ua/en[/URL]#) she could get the ticket at the bus station. If she insist you send the money not the ticket then you get your answer.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the suggestion.

Hope a totally different girl won't suddenly show up in Kiev, LOL.

Or she could possibly use the tickets to come to Kiev to see her friends, not me.

So far, this girl rejected the idea of Skype, saying she does not use it.

And then when I asked her to make a certain gesture, take the photo of the gesture and post the photo on mamba (in order for me to confirm I'm talking to the girl in the photos), she also rejected it and got upset, saying, "If you don't believe me, it's not my fault!", lol.

But so far, we are still talking.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;1686023]And then when I asked her to make a certain gesture, take the photo of the gesture and post the photo on mamba (in order for me to confirm I'm talking to the girl in the photos), she also rejected it and got upset, saying, "If you don't believe me, it's not my fault!", lol.

But so far, we are still talking.[/QUOTE]A so pretty girl as you say, wanting to come to you without chatting and getting to know each other, is 99% fake. I think you understand it but you want to hope for the 1%.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;1686023]And then when I asked her to make a certain gesture, take the photo of the gesture and post the photo on mamba (in order for me to confirm I'm talking to the girl in the photos), she also rejected it and got upset, saying, "If you don't believe me, it's not my fault!", lol.

But so far, we are still talking.[/QUOTE]Its good to talk. It took me nearly 6 weeks and 42 emails and few phone calls to persuade my first Mamba girl to come down to Kiev and meet me.

My experience with the Mamba scammer whom I posted on below kept up the talk as well for few weeks before she came up with her scam.

It turned out to be a scammer based in Accra, Ghana. I only found out when I insisted on a phone conversation first as she didn't want Video Skye. . The number was for Accra. So I asked her, him, What are you doing in Accra??

A, Holiday and few other words spoken with an African Accent. A hot Blondie as per her Mamba Photos goes on Holiday to Accra and acquires an African Accent after only 2 weeks, LOL.

[URL]http://www.scamdigger.com/gallery/[/URL]

[URL]https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=accra[/URL]+Ghana+scams+photo.

All sorts of girls, guys are on Mamba.

Keep her talking.

[QUOTE=ApolloCreed;1686028]A so pretty girl as you say, wanting to come to you without chatting and getting to know each other, is 99% fake. I think you understand it but you want to hope for the 1%.[/QUOTE]Usd15 isn't that much. But if it is a scam and successful, word will spread, you will see a huge increase of such profiles. Thus making it more difficult for us to find real girls.

[QUOTE=ApolloCreed;1686028]A so pretty girl as you say, wanting to come to you without chatting and getting to know each other, is 99% fake. I think you understand it but you want to hope for the 1%.[/QUOTE]

I'm not sure if I'm hoping for 1%, but at this point I'm just playing a game with her and would like to somehow prove that she is a fake.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;1686152]I'm not sure if I'm hoping for 1%, but at this point I'm just playing a game with her and would like to somehow prove that she is a fake.[/QUOTE]Ask for her number to hear her voice and Call her bluff and tell her you will go to Dnipropetrovsk?

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;1686152]I'm not sure if I'm hoping for 1%, but at this point I'm just playing a game with her and would like to somehow prove that she is a fake.[/QUOTE]You must like drama.

[QUOTE=ApolloCreed;1685963]Hello people!

I have been to Kiev in 2013.

I usually try to meet normal girls in the cities I go (I had a relationship with a Latvian girl for 2 years, and with a Russian girl for a year in the past).

So I tried this in Kiev too! I met a part-time model, who really liked me, but didn't want to have sex from our first meeting. So it was all kissing and touching.

I later invited her to my country and we spent 1 week holidays together. Of course I paid for her ticket and hotels, food etc. We had a great time!

Later when she went back to Kiev she asked me for some money to buy clothes. When I said I will not do that she got angry and said that "I used her", and we stopped talking.

(recently we talked again and she wanted to come again to my country and that maybe "I changed". I told her I can invite her but never give her money and that I don't want to be a sponsor, and she got again angry and said that she never wanted a sponsor, just for me taking care of her. Anyway. We saw things differently.

I also met a girl from Mamba, a cute blondie, which after we agreed to meet she asked me if I can give some money to her because she is in a difficult period, and we will have an amazing time together!

I asked her how much? And she told me "whatever you want". Since I really liked her, I offered her 100 euro, which is much, I know. She came to my apartment and she was shy and surely felt non-professional. Earned every euro from these 100...[/QUOTE]So, guys, to sum up, where will you advice me to go on a Friday / Saturday night, to find the most beautiful professionals?

To Skybar? Another club? Rio? Another strip club?

[QUOTE=Riina;1686170]You must like drama.[/QUOTE]No, I like comedies.

Excuse for my fussiness, but "professionals" is a very wrong word. If you have the fetish idea to fuck a girl who fucks your money, then that's a good idea. Otherwise the method is different. The first rule for a monger is "do not inflate prices" and this rule is true also for very wealthy people. For this reason, disco clubs are a bad option where men lose the composure of evaluation among drinks and songs. I say, I am one of the few mongers who doesn't miss the River Palace except for its nice place.

[QUOTE=ApolloCreed;1686174]So, guys, to sum up, where will you advice me to go on a Friday / Saturday night, to find the most beautiful professionals?

To Skybar? Another club? Rio? Another strip club?[/QUOTE]

This report is a bit late but as they say better late than never. I visit Kiev pretty regularly and have a girlfriend (or 2 or 3) that I see there on a steady basis so I am usually not actively looking for a WG. I found myself in the bar at the Intercon one night when I was alone for a late night snack. As soon as I went in there was a tall, typical Ukraine beauty sitting alone who flashed me a big smile and was obviously on the market. I stay at the Intercon pretty often (albeit usually with company) and this is the first time I have seen a lady alone on the prowl. Many times you will see obvious wg's but they have always been with someone. Anyway, I smiled back and she came over to join me. We had a bit of a chat about the weather etc. And then she asked if I was looking for some company. I politely inquired as to the damage and she quoted USD $400. I explained that while I am not necessarily a cheap Charlie I am also not a newbe to Kiev. We chatted a bit more and I asked if she was there with the hotel's blessing. She told me she would make a contribution to them (not exactly sure to who). To make a short story long she came down to $300 which I declined and then to $250 and finally $200. At this point I said ok, why not. Overall it was disappointing I think because I am used to having a genuine girlfriend. Pretty basic and mechanical. She was a nice girl but waaaay too professional for me. I know better but sometimes the dick wants what the dick wants and experience and judgement seem to disappear. Sorry I don't remember her name, mainly I thought it was interesting she was working that hotel pretty obviously.