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[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1567307]
Yep. The old geriatric guys who sit in a daze around the bars, with their watery eyes and drippy noses, spoil the girls with their pension money...hehe.[/QUOTE]No, it's the Koreans! They've contributed nothing good to the scene.
Well, may be you are right. Korean and Japanese currencies are much stronger than the peso, so they can afford to waste it on the girls.
Koreans tend to go to bars in groups of 4 or 5. They are a rowdy bunch, make lots of noise, and like to impress each other on how much money they spend on the girls. It looks as if they are there to entertain the girls, and not the other way around. Japanese tend to be more reserved and quiet.
I checked out a few Korean-exclusive bars allegedly, with the best-looking girls. I was grossly disappointed. The girls were young but below average in looks on AC scale. The Japanese karaoke bars had older girls. They look more polished and mostly do karaoke singing to entertain their clients.
I went to a top-tiered brothel for locals off MacArthur highway. They had tall, good-looking girls charging IIRC 3000 peso for an hour on the premises. That brothel had a serious crew of security guard dressed in black uniforms, toting automatic assault rifles, M-16 and AK-47. It gave me the creep.
I took a few very nice and good-looking young girls from casas in Manila and 2 from LA Cafe. They were very satisfying, primarily because they could communicate in English. I guess I don't like to screw deafs and mutes. The student was new at LA Cafe was horny. She showed me Manila and could not wait to get back to bed for sex. She really turned me on and was one of very few girls I went bareback with...
Will have to try the semi pros in DIA and Craigslist. A bro posted pic of a very good-looking nymph with natural hairy beaver... Definitely worth exploring...
[QUOTE=Amjeck;1567757]No, it's the Koreans! They've contributed nothing good to the scene.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1567494]
So when I read that others are not having the same experiences as I in the PI with bar girls, I begin to wonder where exactly the problem is.[/QUOTE]I agree. I've had numerous trips now to Ac over the past three years and always leave happy & write the FR.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1567494]What's the secret to my success?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1567494]That is a key part of the interview / audition process. I never take a girl that does not appear to want me or who has not been "friendly" if you know what I mean. After I barfine them, I continue to make the girls feel comfortable and at ease. AND LASTLY, I know how to pleasure a girl and make her feel good.
So when I read that others are not having the same experiences as I in the PI with bar girls, I begin to wonder where exactly the problem is.[/QUOTE]The problem is that we are not like you. I'm paying for it. I want to tell them "suck here" "kiss this". Of course no wonder some of them renege and want to leave early. But we made an agreement with all the details at the bar.
In the old days, the girls were more sweeter and more reliable.
[QUOTE=Member#3892;1567753]In another forum I read that the most blow row bars are closed. Is that true?[/QUOTE]Incorrect. The bars on A. Santos Street are open, as of last week. The barfine on the small bar right next to the Penthouse was 700/1500 (ST/LT) 2 weeks ago and 800/? last week. At that bar, you pay the barfine beforehand.
[QUOTE=LukeSkywalker;1567771]Koreans tend to go to bars in groups of 4 or 5. They are a rowdy bunch,[/QUOTE]I would say they are less "rowdy" than the young Aussie types. But I don't mind either group.
[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1567494]I just visited AC, Subic and Manila and all I can say is there are still plenty really nice girls available. I am not young, but the girls all say I am a handsome man, LOL, so who am I to disagree, always treat my girls nice and act as if we are on a date.[/QUOTE]Hi Natty, I have a similar MO and hear the girls say the same things (hamsum) even though I am way past my prime. I have a good mix of bargirls and DIAs. These girls are among the sweetest and sexiest in the world. I love going to the PI! I will be there all next month rotating between MNL, several parts of Cebu, Dumaguete and AC. If anyone wants to meet up for San Migs please let me know!
[QUOTE=Member#3892;1567753]At Hi Jack.
That sounds good to me.
In another forum I read that the most blow row bars are closed. Is that true?
Q: when you had a girl from blow row for a Lt, got her cellphone no. can you call her for Lt? Or have you always go there and pick her up at the bar?
How is the barfine procedure there now? Pay the lady afterwards?
What is the current price for LT?
I will start my cherry trip to AC in one week.[/QUOTE]I personally am a Santo blow row LT fan. Also the bars over at Raymond when they was open. WHY. Because they know what their jobs are and they don't give you BS stories about leaving early or not preforming in bed like the go go girls do. They set a price for the transaction and they fulfill the terms. It least this has been my observation and experience. To many times on the fields bars the girls say they will stay with you LT or will do this or that in bed and when you are back at the hotel the excuses start. With the BR girls you will get a blow and a go around in the sheets just like you want. Bar girls its a crap shoot.
[QUOTE=Member#3892;1567753]At Hi Jack.
That sounds good to me.
In another forum I read that the most blow row bars are closed. Is that true?
Q: when you had a girl from blow row for a Lt, got her cellphone no. can you call her for Lt? Or have you always go there and pick her up at the bar?
How is the barfine procedure there now? Pay the lady afterwards?
What is the current price for LT?
I will start my cherry trip to AC in one week.[/QUOTE]Everything Greenbud said in post # 14367 is pretty much right on!
[QUOTE=Streetlooker;1568016].... With the BR girls you will get a blow and a go around in the sheets just like you want. ..[/QUOTE]In AC BR stands for Blow Row girls. In Pattaya it stands for Beach Road girls. I have good experience with BR-girls in Pattaya. So I will have good experiences with BR-girls in AC.
Jochen.
[QUOTE=GreenBud;1567910]The problem is that we are not like you. I'm paying for it. I want to tell them "suck here" "kiss this".[/QUOTE]Sounds like a recipe for both you and the girl to have a fairly miserable time.
Natty is right. A little consideration / romance goes a long way in the PI.
Obviously a lot of people have different feelings on what it is or what it isn't. We only know from our own personal experiences in the end. All this talk about everyone short timing is pretty much a joke for me. This trip I've had women stay until 3-4 pm multiple times and in no rush to go. Normally they are out of here by sometime late morning or 1 pm for me. This trip they've been staying longer than I'm used to. I'm just saying. I've also had women I drank with that said flat out short time only and I couldn't get them to even reconsider. I don't get worked up about it and unless they are offering me something really special like they're super super hot or going to make great memories, I usually just say thanks and nice to meet them in the end.
I'm always a proponent of making sure to look at myself in the mirror as unbiased as possible and see if it could be me. Hey we aren't getting any younger, and things change. For me, I think I've kept in pretty good shape for my age and it helps me I think. I've talked to quite a few women here and they're straight out not accepting all bar fine offers. They'll pass unless they get someone they like and are comfortable with. Now that's not going to be the case with everyone obviously. I'm just talking about women that are attractive enough to get offered plenty of drinks most nights. That's where things are probably out of hand somewhat is that they can make decent money just getting drinks now. Those new San Miguel beers with apple or lemon are very sweet so they're easier to drink and they're 50 pesos more in their pockets. I am saying this because I ask these women why they haven't barfined so late on a busy night and basically get they didn't like the person who offered it to them enough to go. They'll be others who won't refuse any barfines I'm sure, but obviously there's a trend where some can be more picky. I guess they're learning they don't have to go with the first offer. I don't think you're going to find that they'll all say what they're saying to me that they didn't want to go with the other guys unless they're willing to go with you in the first place though. You can say they're just lying to me and were never offered, but I'm pretty confident that that's not the case.
I saw the same thing going on in Subic also. One woman I've been with gets lots of drinks and I was shocked and who she didn't go with on occasion when I saw her drinking with other customers. I thought they looked clean cut and gentlemanly but she still was saying no to them.
It is what it is now. I think cell phones have changed the dynamics a lot also. I won't get into that. I still enjoy myself. There's a good handful of people in here blasting that things are getting worse, but I'm having probably one of my best trips ever here currently.
[QUOTE=Betong;1568338]Natty is right. A little consideration / romance goes a long way in the PI.[/QUOTE]I agree.
[QUOTE=Betong;1568338]Sounds like a recipe for both you and the girl to have a fairly miserable time.[/QUOTE]Sometimes correct. But when they do what was agreed upon at the bar, then I'm happy :)
[QUOTE=KeyMaster;1568638]I've talked to quite a few women here and they're straight out not accepting all bar fine offers. They'll pass unless they get someone they like and are comfortable with. Now that's not going to be the case with everyone obviously. I'm just talking about women that are attractive enough to get offered plenty of drinks most nights. That's where things are probably out of hand somewhat is that they can make decent money just getting drinks now.[/QUOTE]I've talked to one cute girl (who I had one of my best experiences with. Not all are bad). She said she gets an average about 10 per night (including the bell rings). She makes approx 1000 pesos a night on lady drinks (when she doesn't leave early). Some guys give her unlimited drinks, so she said she learned how to drink San Miguels (for her 100 pesos). Cute girls have a lot more options than before.
On the plane ride in I hear alot of couple talking about going to AC. At the time I thought nothing of it because I figured that they would be in the Clack freezone and the guys could seak away for some fun. I was suprise to see the same couple staying in the heart of the action and the wives bitching at the husbands about everthing. Never bring sand to the beach.
Hit AC and I use to be a believe that the best girls where on field st but learn my lesson. You can find quaity in the small clubs to and for a smaller bar fine. It will take some extra time but it is worth it.
[QUOTE=KeyMaster;1568638]Obviously a lot of people have different feelings on what it is or what it isn't. We only know from our own personal experiences in the end. All this talk about everyone short timing is pretty much a joke for me. This trip I've had women stay until 3-4 pm multiple times and in no rush to go. Normally they are out of here by sometime late morning or 1 pm for me. This trip they've been staying longer than I'm used to. I'm just saying. I've also had women I drank with that said flat out short time only and I couldn't get them to even reconsider. I don't get worked up about it and unless they are offering me something really special like they're super super hot or going to make great memories, I usually just say thanks and nice to meet them in the end.[/QUOTE]Well put, KM. Ought to have this one in with the distinction threads.
I've had three gals offer to accept facials in the last ten months. I didn't ask, they offered. Bless their hearts. Maybe they crossed paths with AsianRain and his creamy Asian "rain".
One was an AC ponytail, one was a Manila freelancer, the other an apparently ordinary gal (in Visayans) with a regular job.
Nevertheless, I'll agree with Betong and Natty to a certain degree. I present my best X Man charm, with a dose of over confidence, and they swoon. No, actually, they don't swoon. But I seem to get my way. I can be a pretty nice guy if I have to be.
Sometimes as things start getting worked up, I ask if I can talk dirty. I don't think I've ever had a refusal. Sometimes they go farther than I do. "My bf will kill you. Pull my hair. Fk me harder.you can fk me in the ass if you want". That was just one gal within a ten minute period. Wow. (full disclosure. That was not an AC gal, a "grad student" DIA gal).
Someone here said the cell phone changes the game. I'd say a message board like this also changes the game. Not to mention Internet porn and performance enhancing vitamins. We see that some ladies in Makati are asking for 5 k or more. But you can find some pretty lean, mean, fugging machines for 700 in AC. What's a budget traveler to do? And then (some of us) share notes on ladies (thanks guys. You know who you are). And then some of us get all kinds of kinky things in mind after watching porn. And, last but not least, we can keep our half century rods stiff as a bone all night long. Been there, done that.
Give the girls a break, she might have had a busy night, morning and early afternoon before you met her. She needs her beauty sleep. X.
[QUOTE=Betong;1568338]Sounds like a recipe for both you and the girl to have a fairly miserable time.
Natty is right. A little consideration / romance goes a long way in the PI.[/QUOTE]