Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=ClownDays;2619694]People are flocking down there to pay $100 right now, and most won't care about the extra $9 for the room. They're just pushing the limits of what the market will bear. I don't expect Tijuana prices to drop back. This is probably the new pricing structure for the next while. I have friends that used to be all over the Vegas trip. Showed them the Zona a 6 years ago, and most haven't been back to Vegas since. All of them think HK is a steal.[/QUOTE]Vegas is a waste of $$ International is the way to go. Do you think business is booming because SE Asia is closed? I know that the mongers that typically go to SE Asia are now visiting Colombia.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2619765]Vegas is a waste of $$ International is the way to go. Do you think business is booming because SE Asia is closed? I know that the mongers that typically go to SE Asia are now visiting Colombia.[/QUOTE]I think Tijuana business and some of Colombia is booming because of all the lockdowns here in the US forced people to go look elsewhere last year, and once you discover how far a Dollar goes in the Zona and Colombia, it's hard to go back if it's convenient.

Tijuana and Colombia has enough variety that you can make due if you were mongering in SEA, but those people have a reason to get on a plane for 24 hours each way- there's specifically something there that they like to justify the travel time to make a trip. I'm not sure how much SEA re-opening will actually change things, unless the influx to both places was that big, but I don't think so. I think Colombia takes a bigger hit than Tijuana, to be perfectly honest.

The uptick in prices, I think, is coming more from the Vegas and the San Diego / LA / Phoenix party crowd that made their way over to Tijuana. I expect much of that demand to stick, and that's what's probably going to support some of the price increases for HK and the Zona. I hope I'm wrong, but just think about how much 2-3 guys can drop at a strip club in those 4 cities on an average trip, and then think about what you can get in the Zona for that money. Blue Balls vs Empty Balls. Not even close.

The cost and effort required to pick up a civilian in Vegas, compared to the Zona is not even comparable, which is why so many of my friends that I introduced to the Zona are done with Vegas. The first time 2 of them went with me, we stayed for 4 days, partied every night, they banged more girls in 4 days than they've ever banged in years of going to Vegas, and they could not stop bragging about how they turned a profit compared to their average Vegas trips. Those two, I don't think have been back to Vegas since.

I like Cascadas, Ibiza and the Rizo de Oro, as long as they don't mess with that too much, I'm fine with whatever they do. I haven't taken an HK girl upstairs since they got super firm on the $100 price tag and I started finding it harder to negotiate an hour for it.

[QUOTE=ClownDays;2620021]I like Cascadas, Ibiza and the Rizo de Oro, as long as they don't mess with that too much, I'm fine with whatever they do. I haven't taken an HK girl upstairs since they got super firm on the $100 price tag and I started finding it harder to negotiate an hour for it.[/QUOTE]Damn, $100 for 30 minutes is pretty steep, I would only pay that for an 8+ (But based on what I've read in this thread, there are plenty of 8's+). Even the FKK club in Germany that I frequented precovid, only cost 50 euros per 30 min. I guess Tijuana has a premium due to the proximity to San Diego.

Hello folks,

I'll be in Tijuana next week, I'm a rookie in this land; but not in the hobby, I have a few questions for you, for my Vegas foes will I expect with any bar girl, HK or any others a service equal of a Latina house here in sin city? Mechanical and blow and go? I feel like with a few fichas I can warm up the game and have a more better experience.

Can I take a HK girl to my hotel? Or have to stay in the rooms in the bar? Also when you guys say going upstairs to a more private area, it's a fee to go there? Or is the meaning to go to the room.

Also I'm fluent Spanish speaker so will help my game, will be better bring powerful dollars? Or I can get a better deal with Pesos?

And what hotel in the Coahuila area will you recommend me to stay for the night I'll be mongering.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2620061]Damn, $100 for 30 minutes is pretty steep, I would only pay that for an 8+ (But based on what I've read in this thread, there are plenty of 8's+). Even the FKK club in Germany that I frequented precovid, only cost 50 euros per 30 min. I guess Tijuana has a premium due to the proximity to San Diego.[/QUOTE]If you put the time and the effort in, you can get great service out of the HK girls for $100, even the 8+, but right now I just don't feel like putting in the effort or the Fichas to get it. I'd rather take the 2-3 Fichas it's going to take to find a girl is worth taking upstairs, and just walk out the back door and spend that money on the first girl who smiles at me whom I've never been with.

My taste in chicas comes and goes in trends. Currently, I'm on an 7's, 8's and Cougars kick. The alley, escorts and the other clubs are all I need. When I get tired of that, and I'm back on a strict 8+ chica only trend, then I'll start spending time in HK again and finding new regulars there.

I am amazed that the girls are able to charge so much in Tijuana. Most guys don't seem to realize that all these girl care about is money. When they are foolish enough to give into high prices they will keep raising prices and or stick to high prices. There is few options in terms of quality between the SG's & the club girls. This is why I stick to the SW's. I pay a little more for the ones I see. But they are well worth it.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2620061]Damn, $100 for 30 minutes is pretty steep, I would only pay that for an 8+ (But based on what I've read in this thread, there are plenty of 8's+). Even the FKK club in Germany that I frequented precovid, only cost 50 euros per 30 min. I guess Tijuana has a premium due to the proximity to San Diego.[/QUOTE]

My personal experience since the Lockdowns started is in SoCal streets, SoCal massage parlors, limited OC area strip clubs and the Zona. I have read on other locations of sex work but we know how the reports work. The prices of sex workers have gone up. I am guessing once the free money the USA government has been giving dries up there may be an balance but not sure if things will go back to normal.

It is not just more money in the market. I think the number of girls overall is down. More money in the market and less girls.

One thing about the Zona is there are always girls not getting work. The crazy thing is even these girls have gotten more stubborn with their negotiations. I can still find girls who will negotiate but not like before.

I was having fun with a newer girl and her friend 4 weeks ago in the club connected to HK now. We had a few drinks. Had some fun. Things looked good. Then when I asked her how much for upstairs she said 150. I straight left. As I was leaving she went down to 130 and then 100. I still left and did not participate in the negotiations. The girls know things have changed.

For a while less guys were going to the Zona and I still think the overall number of guys is down but it is close to how it use to be imo.

Not sure where things are going to land when the business equilibrium settles but it seems almost always prices go up.

[QUOTE=ClownDays;2620021]

I like Cascadas, Ibiza and the Rizo de Oro, as long as they don't mess with that too much, I'm fine with whatever they do. I haven't taken an HK girl upstairs since they got super firm on the $100 price tag and I started finding it harder to negotiate an hour for it.[/QUOTE]

There's no way to quantify this but I think guys are getting more desperate. Rookies are coming in and dropping 100 for bad service and are happy about it since they don't know any better. It's still way better than getting no action at home or getting ripped off in an American club. These girls also have a presence on social media now and so they think it's cool to drop 120-150 on a famous girl just to say they did it. I actually think that the real price is still 80. Almost every girl that quotes 100 will usually come down to 80 if you just say no thanks LOL. But I imagine that a lot of newcomers don't know any better or care to negotiate.

Nothing,

Yep. Guys are addicted to the fun and sexy companies of hot HK girls and spend all their spare time in the club.

As of a week ago Cascada's room was still $23 and I still got the standard Mexican deals with a couple hot girls. I gave them good propinas on top of the deal as I know almost all are hurting badly with the putas business gone down steep. Another guy got BBFS with a hot girl at discount. So treat the chicas nice but be firm with your offers. They will go with it.

Inflation is everywhere in the world after CoVid. Lots of businesses are gravely injured. Many have shut down permanently. Prices are rising for most things but if HK management is encouraging girls to start with $100, that would be very stupid. Their business has slowed down and will go down further. Already the rate of guys taking girls to hotels have gone down sharply in the last few months. Mexiconomics dictates demands go down prices go up? Its the absurd reverse. Stick to your reasonable deals with the girls, or bring in hot street girls from the alley for wild sessions. Treat street girls to propinas and they can be far more wild and sexy in bed than stuck up HK girls.

Will be in HK this Saturday after 6 PM with the bros. Will have a couple bottles to party with hot girls. Come by, say Hi and have a shot.

[QUOTE=ScottHall;2620224]There's no way to quantify this but I think guys are getting more desperate. Rookies are coming in and dropping 100 for bad service and are happy about it since they don't know any better. It's still way better than getting no action at home or getting ripped off in an American club. These girls also have a presence on social media now and so they think it's cool to drop 120-150 on a famous girl just to say they did it. I actually think that the real price is still 80. Almost every girl that quotes 100 will usually come down to 80 if you just say no thanks LOL. But I imagine that a lot of newcomers don't know any better or care to negotiate.[/QUOTE]Its inexperience. New people come in and are in shock, it really is adult Disneyland to them. Have to remember not everyone is a hardcore monger like me or most guys on the forum. I use to be one of those guys and now I look for the deals. I'm lucky I guess because I can negotiate an hour for 100-160 $ sometimes even better over night deals but I think the type of girls I'm into is a factor. I like thin girls tall or spinner types and maybe its lies to get me to feel bad but they tell me they don't get as much business as the thick women. It must be at least some what true because they are willing to make deals with me. It is true though that lots of girls won't budge from 100 $ for 30 min. Many tell me they are being coached to charge even more then 100/30. The price of everything is going up and they want the girls to correlate. HK doesn't want the price for sex to be low because then by comparison their outrageous prices for drinks and rooms won't make sense. HK is a well oiled machine, they know how to run the place, for their profit of course. A girl I know got fired for being just a bit over weight! Its a cut throat business.

[QUOTE=Hadez;2620216]My personal experience since the Lockdowns started is in SoCal streets, SoCal massage parlors, limited OC area strip clubs and the Zona. I have read on other locations of sex work but we know how the reports work. The prices of sex workers have gone up. I am guessing once the free money the USA government has been giving dries up there may be an balance but not sure if things will go back to normal.

It is not just more money in the market. I think the number of girls overall is down. More money in the market and less girls.

One thing about the Zona is there are always girls not getting work. The crazy thing is even these girls have gotten more stubborn with their negotiations. I can still find girls who will negotiate but not like before.

I was having fun with a newer girl and her friend 4 weeks ago in the club connected to HK now. We had a few drinks. Had some fun. Things looked good. Then when I asked her how much for upstairs she said 150. I straight left. As I was leaving she went down to 130 and then 100. I still left and did not participate in the negotiations. The girls know things have changed.

For a while less guys were going to the Zona and I still think the overall number of guys is down but it is close to how it use to be imo.

Not sure where things are going to land when the business equilibrium settles but it seems almost always prices go up.[/QUOTE]You can also quantify the rise in price due to risk level associated with Covid. Any single mother or person for that matter selling themselves during a pandemic is really desperate. So desperate that they are willing to die for it. I imagine there is a price structure that goes along with that frame of mind.

I think girls who were doing it for extra money for nice clothes etc. And possibly the party vibe are re- thinking their lifestyle. Only hardcore chicas or ones that are batshit clueless would stick around.

All my humble opinion but that's what I was feeling in July when I went down.

With that said I would simply stop going to clubs for sex and look into the many variations of the escort scene. You work out all the logistics before any money is exchanged. You can go to HK afterwards to play around and see what transpires. At least you took care of BIZ already and the escorts are probably better kept in terms of hygiene.

I'm sure this report is nothing new for old Mexico heads, but it's my first time in Tijuana, so obviously HK was first on the list. I didn't know what to expect, but was pleasantly surprised by the whole ordeal. I went at about 5 PM on a Saturday. Pulled the first super slim with with natural chest and a great butt that gave me a smile. Don't recall her name, but she ruled. I really had a great time, and nobody pressured me into stuff or annoyed me, which was nice. Drank 2 beers, bailed. Normal damage price wise. I dug it! Will be back.

Spent all weekend in Zona Norte. Stayed at the hotel above Tropical Bar for $80 a night.

I took back 7 women to my room and most were from Hong Kong Bar. Most of the girls from HK quoted $100 for full service.

I took one girl from Tropical Bar who was $80 for full service and one girl from Hong Kong was $80 or $90, but I don't remember her name.

Every single girl gave me BBBJ, but this was asked for up front in the club before we left.

My validation questioning goes like this .

1. After the approach I ask "how much for sex?" - most quoted $100 (mostly Hong Kong), 1 girl quoted $80 and 1 girl quoted $90 from Tropical Bar.

2. Then I state, not ask "That includes BBBJ right?" And out of the 10 girls I desired and negotiated with, approximately 3-4 said no I don't do BBBJ, and were firm in stating it, so I walked away. They were mostly from Hong Kong Bar.

Most of the girls said "yes", which leads to my final validation.

3. I need to see the good downstairs so I make contact with them and try and get a glimpse of their pussy and touch it if possible. If accepting and they don't back off or get disgusted, off we go!

Side note. I had one MILF / cougar at HK Bar Saturday night who wouldn't even let me put my arm on her after she quoted me a price. She was wearing a bright pink / yellow colored polkadot miniskirt and stood on the stairs leading up to the upper bar for most of the night.

The only name I remember was "Madonna" from Hong Kong Bar.

I took her back Sunday morning and she was wearing knee high boots with money signs on them and had very strange orange / yellow colored eyes, like a cat. She had silicon implants and came in from Mexico City, she said. I didn't see her in the club Fri / Sat night.

She quoted me $125 for full service! I said "wow! That includes BBBJ right, because all other girls are $100" and she said "no I don't do that", so I walked away and walked up the stairs to the upper bar to chill out.

4 minutes later she came walking up and said "ok, I'll give you a BBBJ for $125." It was almost noon, and I had to check out in about 1 hour, so I didn't want to hang around and negotiate with other women, so off we went.

She did end up giving me a great BBBJ, balls deep on her knees, while I fondled her silicones tits. Then rode me all the way until I had to check out at 1 PM.

Overall it was a good weekend trip. Total spent on girls / hotel / food / drinks / lap-dances / border-parking / etc $1,200 US.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2620321]Nothing,

Yep. Guys are addicted to the fun and sexy companies of hot HK girls and spend all their spare time in the club.

As of a week ago Cascada's room was still $23 and I still got the standard Mexican deals with a couple hot girls. I gave them good propinas on top of the deal as I know almost all are hurting badly with the putas business gone down steep. Another guy got BBFS with a hot girl at discount. So treat the chicas nice but be firm with your offers. They will go with it.

Inflation is everywhere in the world after CoVid. Lots of businesses are gravely injured. Many have shut down permanently. Prices are rising for most things but if HK management is encouraging girls to start with $100, that would be very stupid. Their business has slowed down and will go down further. Already the rate of guys taking girls to hotels have gone down sharply in the last few months. Mexiconomics dictates demands go down prices go up? Its the absurd reverse. Stick to your reasonable deals with the girls, or bring in hot street girls from the alley for wild sessions. Treat street girls to propinas and they can be far more wild and sexy in bed than stuck up HK girls.

Will be in HK this Saturday after 6 PM with the bros. Will have a couple bottles to party with hot girls. Come by, say Hi and have a shot.[/QUOTE]What are the chances of them accepting $100 for 1 hour? 30 min is kinda short, and sure as hell do not want to pay $200 for 1 hour.

Popped down to HK this afternoon for a bit. (just a weee bit spoiled that I live 15 minutes from the border), Just a few observations to share.

Taxi driver said Nov 8th the border is opening up.

Met a new girl from Monterey, Carlie. Dam she had a nice tiny body, bubbly personality and spoke above average English which is always a plus. I felt a bit bad as I saw a girl in HK that I had screwed a few times before and really liked her, told her I would be back after roaming around more but then ran into Ms Monterey so I flaked on getting together with the previous girl.

I have a dilemma, I Love tiny girls but often they are Really Tight. Like too tight. I guess this is a good problem to have.

See Carlie's picture below. She was so nice about me being ok to take her picture I put an icon over her face.

Ran into Rambo1969 from the Forum and had a great time exchanging mongering experiences as he is quite well traveled.

I did a bunch of private lap dances "sin ropa"/ nude for a little extra propina. And as one of the girls was walking me over to the little private rooms in HK she stopped and talked to a guy for 15 seconds. So we get done with the private dance in the private rooms and when we walk out together she looks over and says "that's my boyfriend' and smiles. LOL. Unbelievable. It never ceases to amaze me the little surprises on these Tijuana adventures.

One other point. Room was $30 and included a drink for her and me. Kind of sucks the prices for the rooms went up and I am in there to fuck not to drink and hang out so I don't need no stinking drink. (just whining).

Also while having a private dance with one girl she said Ochenta /$80 was ok to go fuck upstairs. She was nice as well and I would have taken her upstairs if Junior had any energy left.

G.