Kyiv

I am trying to meet girls through Elena's modes personals website. Will report back and let you know how it went. Looks promising so far. Anyone else tried it too?

[QUOTE=NightOwl69;1689393]No its not a scam in most cases. Well it actually depend on where you are booking, I mean what site. I have booked with expidea and [URL]booking.com[/URL] for my next trips l. The price I got was in UAH 1200- 1800 (45 to 65 usd) for a suite at a 4* hotel. I think most of the hotel are still priced in UAH and due to curancy setuation it's cheaper in USD.[/QUOTE]Hi,

The best is to use [URL]http://www.dobovo.com[/URL] for stay no problem with security, and the girls are more relaxed in apartment, The change all the prices from $ to € but a small change in price.

HIRVINA best is to use BNP Paribas the cash machines under maidan, the are normally full with cash, if lucky you can get 20000, and you also get the best rates.

I'm going back to Kiev in eastern for some weeks again, bin living in Kiev for many years.

I am also in Kiev and have no idea what to do as I'm in my todd. Has anyone tried the clubs or massage parlours?

Hello guys,

On this weekend I will be in Kiev for two days and I want to spend it with some classy girls.

I know many times written here but I will ask some updated information about clubs. Actually I studied in Kiev 4-5 years ago and know Russian well. Before we had river palace.

And there were really classy ladies but I don't know much about current clubs which can pick up ladies. I read couple articles about clubs but they all really old.

All information will be appreciated.

Never been to Kiev or Europe for that matter, but the adventure does sound very enticing after reading the info here. I like the Latina look, so I've traveled to Latin America numerous times, but enjoy the blonde Eastern Euro look just as much. Seems the civil war is not distracting the mongering scene much. Just a quick question, I'm asian in my 30's, short stature (5'6), in good shape, wondering if I would stick out like a sore thumb in Kiev? Not sure how receptive they are to us Asian folks or pretty much money talks? If all they see is dollar signs, then I'll definitely consider a summer trip. Thanks.

[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1691314]Never been to Kiev or Europe for that matter, but the adventure does sound very enticing after reading the info here. I like the Latina look, so I've traveled to Latin America numerous times, but enjoy the blonde Eastern Euro look just as much. Seems the civil war is not distracting the mongering scene much. Just a quick question, I'm asian in my 30's, short stature (5'6), in good shape, wondering if I would stick out like a sore thumb in Kiev? Not sure how receptive they are to us Asian folks or pretty much money talks? If all they see is dollar signs, then I'll definitely consider a summer trip. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Fist of all, while Kiew is Europe, it'S a different kind of Europe as you may encounter in Paris, Munich or Rome. Kiew is a world class city, but with a Soviet background.

Asian people are not really highly regarded over there. They usually fall in two classes: Chinese traders which stay very much among them self and immigrant workers form GUS countries. Uzbek and Tadjik are common curse words, and, at least in Russia, people from the Asian regions are only employed for the lowest kind of work. I've seen situations where 'house workers' on datschas where treated much like what situations on cotton farms may have been in the 1800's. So yes, there is a strong racial bias.

Then again, if you're clearly identifiable as a western foreigner, it might work out. In general, a proper attire is required to be taken serious. And of course, Dollar signs do change the experience at least on short distance.

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I'm in Kiev.

Tonight I asked this taxi driver to take me to an apartment with girls but did not take a girl.

But I noted the location of the apartment.

I'm now wondering what happens if I just go to the apartment for myself without the taxi driver.

Would the madam tell the driver that I showed up by myself?

Would the driver be mad at me? He has my phone number (because I have his).

Any idea?

BTW, food is one thing that has not gone up in price. So you can behave like a king at restaurants. lol.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;1691770]I'm in Kiev.

Tonight I asked this taxi driver to take me to an apartment with girls but did not take a girl.

But I noted the location of the apartment.

I'm now wondering what happens if I just go to the apartment for myself without the taxi driver.

Would the madam tell the driver that I showed up by myself?

Would the driver be mad at me? He has my phone number (because I have his).

Any idea?

BTW, food is one thing that has not gone up in price. So you can behave like a king at restaurants. lol.[/QUOTE]Do you have the number of the madam or the 'administration'? That is the only thing you should really care about. They like to be called by you before you come.

Thanks for the insight! I'm Chinese-American, so with my 100% Chinese look I can see instances where I can be stereotyped or marganilized. But I do have decent and modern fit attire, which along with my English speaking skills are indicators of being a western tourist with exposable dollars. But at the same time I can imagine locals staring at me whenever I'm with a Ukrainian hottie because I do like the all nighter experience with some wine and dine mixed in. At least I'll get a kick out of breaking some bias barriers in the process.

BTW. I've experienced racial / ethnic bias here in US and many other countries that I've been to for better or worse, so I'm well trained in that category LOL.

[QUOTE=Raffzahn;1691573]Fist of all, while Kiew is Europe, it'S a different kind of Europe as you may encounter in Paris, Munich or Rome. Kiew is a world class city, but with a Soviet background.

Asian people are not really highly regarded over there. They usually fall in two classes: Chinese traders which stay very much among them self and immigrant workers form GUS countries. Uzbek and Tadjik are common curse words, and, at least in Russia, people from the Asian regions are only employed for the lowest kind of work. I've seen situations where 'house workers' on datschas where treated much like what situations on cotton farms may have been in the 1800's. So yes, there is a strong racial bias.

Then again, if you're clearly identifiable as a western foreigner, it might work out. In general, a proper attire is required to be taken serious. And of course, Dollar signs do change the experience at least on short distance.

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[QUOTE=RiceRocket99;1691911]Thanks for the insight! I'm Chinese-American, so with my 100% Chinese look I can see instances where I can be stereotyped or marganilized. But I do have decent and modern fit attire, which along with my English speaking skills are indicators of being a western tourist with exposable dollars. But at the same time I can imagine locals staring at me whenever I'm with a Ukrainian hottie because I do like the all nighter experience with some wine and dine mixed in. At least I'll get a kick out of breaking some bias barriers in the process.

BTW. I've experienced racial / ethnic bias here in US and many other countries that I've been to for better or worse, so I'm well trained in that category LOL.[/QUOTE]Don't be shy, show your confidence and you will be OK. People in eastern Europe and I think everywhere appreciate and respect those traits.

[QUOTE=Epicurus;1691903]Do you have the number of the madam or the 'administration'? That is the only thing you should really care about. They like to be called by you before you come.[/QUOTE]No, I don't have the madam's phone number. The taxi driver wants to make sure that I have to get to the apartment through him.

I would go in there by myself, choose a girl and leave immediately with the girl to my apartment.

[QUOTE=Sorbonne;1691770]I'm in Kiev.

Tonight I asked this taxi driver to take me to an apartment with girls but did not take a girl.

But I noted the location of the apartment.

I'm now wondering what happens if I just go to the apartment for myself without the taxi driver.

Would the madam tell the driver that I showed up by myself?

Would the driver be mad at me? He has my phone number (because I have his).

Any idea?

BT.[/QUOTE]Stick with the driver. He gets his cut from the madam. How much are you going to save going it solo?

He can also introduce you to other hidden local gems.

I keep contact with a local driver in every EE City& Town I visit including Kiev, once I've used their services and found them to be honest and reliable.

They can be your guide, guard, friend in need especially when visiting apartments out of the center.

Anyone here used Kiev inn apartments? I am tempted by the location, the set up, although I stay at hotels in Kiev, I am thinking of this apartment with a Sauna, Jaccuzi, Air Conditioning, etc.

[URL]https://www.kievinn.ua/apartments-6.html[/URL]

Also very close to a very good Massage place ([URL]http://roksolana-massage.com.ua/[/URL] where I was more than lucky on few occasions.

[QUOTE=Jojosun;1691999]Anyone here used Kiev inn apartments? I am tempted by the location, the set up, although I stay at hotels in Kiev, I am thinking of this apartment with a Sauna, Jaccuzi, Air Conditioning, etc.

[URL]https://www.kievinn.ua/apartments-6.html[/URL]



Also very close to a very good Massage place ([URL]http://roksolana-massage.com.ua/[/URL] where I was more than lucky on few occasions.[/QUOTE]Yes. They are ok. But I think that is set up as a hotel with a reception and such. I prefer apartments that are stand alone. Without a reception. They also have such apartments.

[QUOTE=Epicurus;1692065]Yes. They are ok. But I think that is set up as a hotel with a reception and such. I prefer apartments that are stand alone. Without a reception. They also have such apartments.[/QUOTE]Have you actually stayed there and is the set up Girl Friendly?

I did some necessary research here [URL]http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Hotel_Review-g294474-d1627212-Reviews-KievInn_Apartment_Complex-Kiev.html[/URL].

Good reviews.