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[QUOTE=Keen Eye Joe; 1171782]Hey folks, I just returned from a 10 day visit to Negros Occidental. 3 days in Bacolod. 5 days at Sipalay Beach, then 2 days back in Bacolod. I was there visiting a pinay online friend so I didn't get to partake in any mongering. But I do have a tidbit of information that might be useful for some of you. <SNIP> I walked north and eventually came to the main park in Bacolod. The south side of the park has a large sign (Welcome to Bacolod, Home of the Masskara Festival). <SNIP> I eventually asked him where the good places were to find "paid company" in Bacolod. He chuckled and said,"man, you're right in the middle of it". He then said,"see those girls sitting over there?". I looked and there were 3 young girls around 18 to 20 years old, sitting on a concrete bench. Then he pointed to another bench in another section of the park where 2 more girls were sitting. He said the park is the place where girls come to ply their wares.
<SNIP> Hope this helps someone.[/QUOTE]

That is great information Joe (with the keen eye).

I was in Bacolod around 3 months ago for 2 nights only and I walked through this park a couple of times. I must say my antennae never twitched as I strolled around because I saw a lot of school-age kids but nothing that I would have been confident was old enough and willing enough. After your "heads-up" I will check more closely next time.

I am not "pissing on you" or even doubting what you say BUT. . . . . do you believe that your "new found friend" was reliable in what he said? Did he elaborate further? (eg. his experiences; were there any hassles, were all these girls looking etc?). Just checking on whether he was relating information from his experience or whether he was actually sitting there fantasising that all these girls were "plying their wares" and he wished he could partake.

My experiences in all of these rural "cities" eg Butuan, Iloilo, Bacolod, Ormoc. Etc is that there are always groups of girls sitting around swapping tsismis in the central city parks but I tend to stand out a bit (white, tall and slim) and I just cannot imagine myself going up to these groups and trying to draft one out of the "herd".
I also just can't imagine one of these shy country girls suddenly leaving her barkada group and going off with an unknown foreigner who happened to chat her up. I suspect it will require a deft exchange of cell phone numbers and a fair bit of follow-up before she ends up in your hotel bed. Now I know there will be guys who say they have had instant success in parks like this but my long experience of living and working here is that such a rapid "pick-up" will be more the exception than the rule.

Hey Red, I certainly understand your concern as to whether this guy was on the up and up and not just feeding me a line of hooey. I have a pretty good "BS Radar" and I never got the impression he was some sort of flake. I must admit I didn't press him for any personal experiences he might have had as it would have been a bit rude of me to ask him point blank. When I asked him about prices he volunteered the info, so I surmised he knew the game.

He said he and his wife had lived in Bacolod for about 5 years and he came often to the park to enjoy the shade and to chat with the locals to pass the time as a lot of friendly expats probably do. I certainly couldn't see this place as being a popular venue for foreigners to come score someone. 99 percent of any potential customers would be Pinoy, and I'm sure the "game" is a lot different with them than it would be with recognizable foreigners like you and I.

I will add that after I left him, I strolled down the path toward where the group of 3 girls were sitting. I made eye contact with them and the "alpha-female" of the group said,"Hello, sir" in a friendly yet not flirty way. I replied in kind, then continued walking without her replying to me. If they were looking for a score, I surmised she would have said something like "where are you going?" like I've had happen while strolling along Dumaguete's promenade after sunset. But then again I did not act interested in stopping and chatting with them, so nothing more was said.

As an aside, one night my Bacolod companion and I were sitting in the hotel room, deciding what to do later that evening. I suggested going to a disco and listening to music and dancing, but she quickly pooh-poohed that idea. When I asked why, she said,"discos are just pick up places for prostitutes". She says a lot of older Pinoy men go there to find young willing semi-pros. Sounds exactly like what I've experienced in my two trips to Mango Square discos in Cebu.

I haven't seen any information in this forum about Bacolod discos. Anyone have any first-hand info?

i was in bacolod for about 10 days. at first i didn't see anything. having been in the plaza (and i'm assuming that's the park mentioned in the post) during the day, there are no vibes.

but at night there is a p4p scene. the girls are in the park across the street, and although i wasn't in the park / plaza, i was on the other side of the street in a little sidewalk cantina. there's a jollibee right across from it.

there was also a girlie bar in the area, just down the street from the plaza, but the prices were ridiculous. i ran into one of the girls after hours and made arrangements. there was also a female pimp working the street, but you've really got to be careful of thieves and ****d.

you're probably better off going to the bars at the goldenfields complex. i ran into the owner of happy fred's (in goldenfields) who's a great guy and might prove to be a good source of info.

ps keen eye joe, looking at your picture, that's the plaza. jollibee is to the left, and if you go in the direction of traffic in the photo, to the right, there's a girlie bar on the right on that street not far from there (100 yards tops).

Spending 3 days here. Wow there's little here. The Gaisano mall is crap, old, low-brow. The newer, Limketkai mall is much nicer, many outdoor places, reminds you a bit of Greenbelt in Makati (just a bit, not quite as upscale). So far, that's it. Dragonslayer is right, its just a larger version of Surigao or Butuan. Having walked both malls, not a single look.

19 solid dating site gals who agreed flat out to meet-and-bang. 19. Am on my second night, have met with 3 of them so far. Had one walk away; she brought her cousin, we chatted an hour at Starbucks, and she walked. What an ego shot. She is the second meet-and-bang girl ever to not come back to my hotel after a drink. I nearly fell out of my chair. She said,"I'm not ready for this. Sorry po." The other two girls I sent packing: one was not attractive (fatter than shown on cam) , and the other, who had agreed in first chat to meet / bang and didn't seem to have any reservations or morality, was in fact sharp, moral, and wanted to know if I would marry her after banging her. OMG. She has sent this afternoon, since meeting, (no kidding) 61 txt msgs asking relationship questions. Strike 3. Whereas AC was a whirlwind of 2-6 girls a day, this has been 36 hours of, well, johnson needs a break anyway.

For the other 16 meet / bang contacts (almost all of whom I've chatted / txtd in the last 48 hours) , they have either:

1. Not responded to txt / chat;

2. Responded negatively: they don't really live in the area, gramma is to sick to leave at the moment (same as washing her hair?) , etc.

OK, what are the names of those gogo bars in the area? I'll post another report here about my hotel.

Don't waste your time. The 1400 for a standard room (double bed) is fair. The hotel is large, and looks nice in the lobby and dining area. Mahogony, nice tile and nice stairwells. The room is spartan, like Diplomat in Cebu (fuente). The website claims free wifi in the room. I emailed in advance of the reservation to confirm this. Here is the website's description of the Standard Room:

High-Definition LCD TV, air conditioned room, free Wi-Fi internet access, IDD / NDD telephone, hot and cold shower, working table, breakfast included.

The wifi worked yesterday, and stopped this afternoon. I went walking around the hotel with my laptop to see if it was just near my room that had dropped off. Nope, everywhere. I took the lappy down to the lobby and it popped back on. Must be a temporary glitch, so I went back up the stairs. Off it went. Back to the lobby and front desk. I showed the receptionist my laptop:

Her: Yes. No more free wifi in rooms.

Me: Can I pay for it in my room?

Her: No sir. Only free in lobby.

Me: but I chose this place because you said it have free wifi in the rooms.

Her: no sir, we never say that.

Me: take a look at this email. It has your name on the bottom. You answer my question about free wifi in the room.

Her: I never say that sir.

Me: this is your email or not? You typed your name on the bottom. 3 separate times you said wifi in the room?

Her: yes sir it is.

I went to the website and showed her the room description you read above.

Me: this says free wifi in the room?

Her: no sir it does not.

Me: are we reading the same thing?

Her: sir its lobby only. Always.

Me: it worked yesterday.

Her: yes but we change it.

Me: so its not lobby-only always.

Her: your confusing me sir haha.

Me: you are the only one laughing. I need wifi in the room, not the lobby.

Her: you need to speak to manager. Hes here tomorrow. Maybe at 9am. Usually by 2pm. Sometimes don't come.

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The aircon went out this afternoon. I turned on the power in the room with the key in the wall, and POP the aircon dies. Sounded like a breaker. I went to the front desk and told them, they said they would send an engineer right up. Sweltering away for 30 minutes waiting, I go back down to the desk. Same receptionist."Oh? When did it go out sir?" OMG."I send engineer right now ok?" I told her I would go to the mall and come back in 2 hours. 2 hours later upon return, no aircon. Back at the desk: "Sorry sir. Engineer cannot go in your room without you. He's going there now." 20 sweltering minutes later the bellboy comes in bangs his hand on the wall by the aircon wall-unit and it comes right on.

Last night I wake up at 2am to yelling outside. The security guards are playing grab-ass in the street. Back to sleep. 2:45 I awaken to loud music, disco thumping. Walk down to the lobby to find the night receptionist guy sound asleep. Speakers in the ceiling above him are distorting with the same loud music; my room is directly above. I ring the bell on the front desk twice, to no avail, he's snoring."HEY!" He jumps up and the chair flies out from under him and he falls down."Sorry sir! What do you need?" "Turn the effing music down!" Its at this point I realize he's not wearing shoes. He walks over to the stereo, and slips on the tile floor in his bare feet, and nearly does the splits. Hoping he pulled a groin muscle.

Can't wait to see what happens next here.

[QUOTE=Westcoast1; 1175266]For the other 16 meet / bang contacts (almost all of whom I've chatted / txtd in the last 48 hours) , they have either:

1. Not responded to txt / chat;

2. Responded negatively: they don't really live in the area, gramma is to sick to leave at the moment (same as washing her hair?) , etc.

OK, what are the names of those gogo bars in the area? I'll post another report here about my hotel.[/QUOTE]Bad luck. I especially love the hotel!

While the 'in-love-after-only-2-chats' girl that I met and sent home today sent me the 61 txts wanting to give me her virginity so I can marry her tomorrow, I had enough, and was sitting outside with the security guard at the front door (the phone reception inside is bad). At one point I looked over to him and asked if there were girly go-go bars in the area."Yes sir." Later I go out and he gets me a cab and asks where I'm going."The gogo bars we talked about before. Any one of them is fine." He says something to the driver, and off we go. 2 minutes later we pull up at Lemketkai Mall, where I met the girls today. Very upscale. WTF? The driver was looking around.

Driver: Sir, you want Coco bar?

Me: gogo bar.

Driver: huh.

Me: gogo bar. Girls?

Driver: huh.

Me: naked girls. Dancing girls. Barfine girls. (I made the girlie-figure with my hands)

Driver: oh. Ok.

He drives another block and pulls over.

Driver: here is coconut bar sir.

Me: what?

Driver: coco.

There was no such place there.

Me: take me back to the hotel.

Driver: ok.

So back we go. I say to the security guy the driver does not know where to go. Security says: "Coco sir?" O M F G! Another driver walks up and says to go with him. We jump in and he takes me to Blush's bar. About a dozen girls. Several dance (clothes on). I've asked the driver to come in and have a drink, which he was happy with (I was concerned with not getting a cab back at night). The waitress suggests I barfine one. I ask how much, she says "3. 5 for short time." I nearly barf up my san mig. Sitting back in the hotel lobby now on INTERNATIONAL SEX GUIDE, mostly because that banner is on every page, and the hotel is fully booked up for a convention: "Public Service Employees" or similar. Now that I'm relegated to the restraunt and lobby for my wifi, f*ck 'them. Let every public service employee in the joint who is also toying with his laptop see ISG each time I refresh. Hahaha. I'm the only kano in the joint. Think they know why I'm here?

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Tried to PM you as I have just arrived at CDO and checked into the Marco in Cugman. Sounds like you are having a pretty miserable time here in CDO! I have three DIA dates lined up this afternoon, I am waiting at Limketkai for the first one to arrive, the other one who should have been the first date is late (surprise surprise) so the dates may collide figuratively speaking. If so I will just tell the one who originally kept me waiting, to wait see how she likes being made to wait around for one and a half hours. I then have a further date at 7pm out of town and received a confirmation text from her that she is still available. I do not plan these dates to be meet and fuck, rather exploratory meetings to see what they are like. I already blew my load in Cebu this morning and I am not feeling that frisky at the moment, but things can easily change once I have met the girl. If you are still around in CDO PM me with your cell if you fancy a cold beer later

Thanks Mort.

Fairly fed up with CDO, I decide to depart a day early. Having been ignored by oodles of girls who had 48-60 hours prior agreed to meet / bang, I packed up and hit the front desk by 8:30am to check out and get to the bus terminal. Taxi to the terminal for a 9am bus. The bus has pulled out and gone exactly one block when I get this txt from one of the girls who ignored me:

Her: its me where you now?

Me: where you been?

Her: my baby was sick. But I want to come to your hotel now even its early. We f*ck like we talk about before.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

For the rest of the day I got txts from 3 other girls who also ignored me, who now wanted to meet. Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.

Well I met up with three DIA contacts yesterday, actually it was 4 if you count one meeting where two girls turned up, but more about that later.

I had arranged to meet two DIA contacts yesterday about 2 hours apart so as not to have overlapping appointments, but as is usually the case, the first date turned up over one and a half hours late, just as my other date had arrived. I told the first one (an 18 year old student) that I was waiting in McDonalds and asked the other date (two girls) to wait for me as I was busy at that moment.

The 18 year old student for some reason took another 20 minutes to arrive at Macdonalds despite me texting her numerous times asking her to hurry. I placed myself around the back of the store so I could watch her arrival through the glass, as I had a good view of the entrance but was fairly well hidden from view myself. I texted her one final time telling her I was pissed at being kept waiting for so long and was leaving, only to see her sidle up to the front of Macdonalds, walking as though she had all the time in the world and not in the least bit hurried as I would have expected. Sadly despite seeing her on cam a few times, the one thing I now noticed is that her ass was way too big for my liking. Her body was chunky without being fat and she was dressed like a pro, to be completely honest just not my type. Now I knew she lived very close to the centre of town, so I decided to teach her a lesson and I texted her back saying I had left and didn't want to see her because she was so late. I would normally never agree with a guy who deliberately stood a girl up but in this particular instance she had pissed me off so much I was past caring and I also knew she could get home easily enough. A couple of terse texts were sent back and forth and that was the end of that.

Whilst I was sauntering in and around Limketkai, I had several girls making eye contact and a few even turning round to look at me when we walked past. Sadly I am no Brad Pitt, but I certainly feel like him when I am here. I just did not have time to really see if I could exploit these potential opportunities, but the vibes seemed good. I will save that for another day!

My second two dates were also DIA girls. In fact I had kind of engineered the two girls turning up together as I had told my chat mate I was accompanied with another foreigner also looking for a girl friend. I know it is a bit underhanded but it means that I usually can pick the best of the two girls or as is often the case, both girls will decide to accompany me. Anyway we sent several texts back and forth and arranged to meet in Starbucks by Limketkai Mall, and I was asked to describe what I was wearing so they could identify me. Having agreed to meet in Starbucks I ensconced myself in the outside seating area with a tea waiting for the girls. When they turned up I apologised and told them my imaginary friend had found another girl but they did not seem bothered at all. We spent over 30 minutes chatting, they were aged 18 and 19 and both pretty girls, one was very slim whilst the other was bordering the stage were I thought she was just a little too big but still not fat. To be fair they were both enjoyable company and I could see that we would have fun together.

Both girls agreed to come back to my hotel later (it was now 6pm and I had a further date planned for 7pm). I told them my cover story, that I had an American friend living in CDO and that they had invited me for dinner that evening. I tested the water and suggested that both girls stay with me at my hotel later and after some whispering they agreed. The girls told me they were really hungry and I gave them 300 pesos for food and the jeepney fare and both seemed delighted with this.

I then went back to the hotel, showered and changed and caught a cab out to Bugo about 15 KM East outside of town where I met my third date for the day. Another pretty 18 year old but looking for a serious relationship and marriage and not willing to fuck around for money, at least that was the impression I got. She arrived with her sister and we went for dinner in a place that resembled an old man's working club in the UK, complete with a terrible out of tune musician and two pretty but out of tune singers. I was forced to endure a disgusting meal of deep fried chicken and rice, whilst my ear drums were continually assaulted by a sound system that belted out the music and song at a hundred decibels. When the food arrived at the table, I started helping myself to the rice and an enormous plate of fried chicken, looked up and saw both girls staring at me expectantly? I said "whats wrong" and the older sister said to me with a straight face, "aren't you going to say grace before you eat?" I thought to myself WTF and reluctantly returned my piece of fried chicken back to the main plate. I then lowered my head in unison with the two girls, clasped my hands together and sat in silence whilst she mumbled a prayer. I was also thinking of a prayer in my head but I guess I was praying for other things, the kind God might not agree with! I even managed to make the sign of the cross when she had finished which went down well with both girls (my Catholic upbringing comes in handy sometimes). I told the girls I was really tired and I caught a taxi back after the meal to my hotel. I then texted the other two girls and apologised that I was tired and needed some sleep, actually the complete truth in this case. Got back to my hotel and crashed at about midnight feeling exhausted.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1175858]Anyway we sent several texts back and forth and arranged to meet in Starbucks by Limketkai Mall, and I was asked to describe what I was wearing so they could identify me. Having agreed to meet in Starbucks I ensconced myself in the outside seating area with a tea waiting for the girls.[/QUOTE]Hahaha. I sat at that same Starbucks a few nights ago outside and met a stunner and her friend. The stunner was the one who stood me up after the coffee. Nice gal. They sent me the same txt, asking what I'm wearing. In fact in the last few days I've gotten that txt from multiple girls. In response to "What you wearing?" I usually txt back: "I'm the only person here blond / blue." To which one usually comes back from the girl: "Oh ya hahaha." Always cracks me up: they have all seen me on cam, and in the province I rarely see another kano. I got the same txt in Butuan today.

[QUOTE=Mortman;1175858]When the food arrived at the table, I started helping myself to the rice and an enormous plate of fried chicken, looked up and saw both girls staring at me expectantly? I said "whats wrong" and the older sister said to me with a straight face, "aren't you going to say grace before you eat?" I thought to myself WTF and reluctantly returned my piece of fried chicken back to the main plate. I then lowered my head in unison with the two girls, clasped my hands together and sat in silence whilst she mumbled a prayer.[/QUOTE]Haaaaaaaaaaa. Today I met a sweetie who says she's a virgin. Talked a few times for the last month. Agreed to meet and give me her virginity, even after I told her that's not a good idea. Wow. Asked if she could bring a cousin, and she did. WOW the cousin is a stunner. The cousin and I had a blast for 30 minutes (Jollibee, very romantic) , and my gal never spoke."Oh she shy to you. Because your guapo." Finally I said I was leaving, and asked the shy virgin if she wanted to come with me. She had not spoken to that point, and could not speak. She was blushing and could not look at me. The cousin was trying to talk her into staying with me ("look, hes handsome, go with him". Right there in jolibee so everyone could know what was happening) , but the shy one would not respond, and the cousin took her home. Just now as I'm typing this, the shy one comes online and apologizes: "Never seen foreigner man before in my life. I can't look your eyes because they blue." I think she got flustered. Originally in chat the shy one said she was 25, as was on her dating profile. But the cousin squealed and informed me "she's running 19 next month."

Another cutie was txting while I was meeting the shy girl. After shy girl left I had the cutie meet me at Dunkin Donuts. A meal at the food court followed, as did an afternoon of fun in the room (finally one who I didn't have to send away or walked away!). Too shy for pics, and was fine with 500. After the fun we napped, then went across the street for some halohalo. Srangely Mort, she asked if I was born-again christian. She said she was previously Iglesia n Christian. Then, like a true christian, she went back to the room where she offered boomboom again. Just sent her packing. Another one who said she's 25 in chat, but the I'd showed her as 22. In chat she had one child, a 2-yr-old daughter. But the boobs were too big and she was lactating. After the ditty she said she also has a 6-month old son, with a fever, and needed pesos.

As I'm writing this, the shy one comes online and apologizes, saying she never seen anyone with blue eyes before and got too embarrassed to speak in jolibee.

I had at least two dozen dead certainties from DIA for my arrival in CDO but nothing ever pans out like you expect in the Philippines and always assume the worst. Some of these girls I have spent weeks and weeks chatting to on line to develop a rapport and make the first meeting that much less awkward.

Probably out of my dead certainties I have only had real success with maybe 30% of the DIA contacts I had made. It seems that unlike a lot of other places, CDO girls show Cagayan as their place of residence because it is the nearest big city but many actually live at least an hours drive outside the city, or one and a half hours if travelling by jeepney. I found many girls just did not have the means to pay their fare one way to meet me and that they could not even borrow the money to get here. Some show CDO but live in Ozamis, Dipolog and other areas many hours drive from CDO. Even the ones living one or two hours out of town could not afford or borrow the 40 or 50 pesos to get here and I am not really willing to drive around the North of Mindanao in a taxi going to meet these girls

Of course I checked where they lived during on line conversations and many gave assurances they could get to CDO but the reality was somewhat different. I am meeting a 28 years old DIA girl tonight in CDO and she is getting a jeepney in to town with her friend. Now she has already told me the journey by jeepney will take one and a half hours and we have spent most of the last two hours texting back and forwards, with me continually reassuring her that I will be there to meet her and that I will pay her fare. Even if she was completely not my type, I will be there as promised to meet her and pay her fare, I would not want to let her down at all. I only met her on line (DIA) this lunchtime and she was initially very suspicious about why I was in CDO. My well rehearsed cover story is that I have an American friend living here with his Filipina wife and kids, but they have had to go to Davao/Manila/Cebu unexpectedly due to a family illness. Maybe this meeting will prove fruitful, at the very least I will hope to have dinner with two charming female companions and if it turns out to be something more I will report back here tomorrow.

I had been chatting on line to a 35 year old single mom with an 18 year old daughter for some weeks. They are living just outside CDO. She was keen to find a foreigner for her daughter and I was keen to help her. She had assured me that her daughter was a virgin and although I doubted that, anyway it helped to fuel my desires and fantasies.

She had arranged to meet me yesterday first at Limketkai Mall and then later at my hotel with her daughter but had stood me up. Anyway I know I broke the mongers cardinal sin and told her where I was staying and this afternoon she turned up unannounced and sent me a text saying she was waiting for me in reception. WTF luckily I was at the hotel and alone so I went over to find two ugly women sat in reception waiting for me. It turns out she had left her daughter at home and brought her sister in law, because they wanted to meet me. Her daughter was apparently busy in the province and could not come. I felt I had been set up and I was very candid with them about my feelings. I told her quite bluntly that she had no right to turn up unnanounced and to NEVER come to my hotel again without permission. I told her I had come to meet her daughter not her sister in law and to take a hike, especially as she had already stood me up. I quietly ranted at them for a few minutes both of them sat sullen looking as they listened. I pulled out a wad of 20 and 50 peso notes and said "I will pay your jeepney fare" but the sister in law said "we don't want your money thank you" and both women sauntered off like scolded schoolchildren.

I then got a text from the mother about 15 minutes later saying how badly I had treated them and that they had spent over 300 pesos on a taxi fare to get there. I called her bluff and sent a text back quote " I saw you arrive by jeepney you liar, you stood me up yesterday and you arrive here without your daughter and without you letting me know, don't waste my time again". I never heard from her after that

well the two dates last night were charming company, we all had dinner at the golden cowrie just round the block from macdonalds and close to yellow cab pizza. food was ok it serves traditional phillipines food but is slightly more upmarket than the normal local eateries and food was pleasant enough.

the girls were aged 24 and 28, the youngest had two young children but she was actually the nicest of the two. we spent a couple of hours laughing and joking and then i suggested it might be a bit late to travel back home (it was around 8pm). the older of the two told me she had a brother living behind robinsons mall and that they would go to see him so i told her if she and her friend needed a place to stay for the night, i had plenty of room at my place (i am all heart). i gave them 100 pesos each for their jeepney fares.

then went off to meet fellow isg member kongking to do a trawl of the bars around divisoria and got a text about an hour later from the older girl thanking me for my kindness but that they would make their way home. i think they are both achievable but it will take a bit more time and effort and i am not so sure i have the inclination.

kongking and myself tried to hit the bars at around 8. 30pm but most do not open until around 9pm and we eventually found ourselves in spooks. i have been in spooks a few times before on previous visits to cdo but this is the first time i met the owner mike. seems like he is having all sorts of problems with the philippines bureau of internal revenue (tax authourity) and from all accounts has been treated pretty badly. what i did like about mike was his staunch resilience in the face of such adversity and how he refuses to pay people off, when completely surrounded in shit storm of corruption. i take my hat off to him, i could never endure some of the problems he has encountered over the last 5 years and it just reinforces my view, never to open a business here.

i was not particularly enamoured with spooks the first time i visited at year or two back but i have changed my mind now. mike was very welcoming, knowledgable and helpful and i was never ever pressurised to buy lady drinks. all the lady drink prices are clearly displayed on the wall so there is transparency with the pricing structure. unlike most of the other bars in cdo, there is no cover charge at spooks and the most interesting aspect of all is that there is no longer any bar fine, that is something you negotiate individually with the lady of your choice. the women last night were of varied quality but seemed more friendly than most of the other bars i have been to. there was one new girl at the bar an absolute stunner, aged 18 and just started a week ago. now i am not a big user of bar girls but i have to say i would have taken this girl in the blink of an eye, but sadly kongking had already beaten me to her and had visited her earlier that evening and struck a deal. kongking you lucky sob.

we did a few bars most of whom were charging around 55 pesos cover charge plus the cost of a drink so your first drink would cost about 110 pesos give or take.

most of the bars in cdo are all within walking distance of each other and we spent some time in a bar around the corner from spooks (newly opened i believe) called 'three point shots' girls were of a good standard, usual cover charge of 55 and sml 55 making it 110. the thing that i did not like was that the bar fine here (as in most other bars) is 3000 but that is only for short time. that is way, way too expensive considering that you may have bought a couple of expensive lady drinks before bar fining, an hours pop back at your hotel could easily cost you 4000 or more, when you add your drinks, her drinks, the bar fine and taxi home. from memory this is about the going rate in most of the bars in cdo though if you use some of the more primitive local bars prices are much cheaper and the girls can still be remarkably pretty.

even though it was a thursday night, divisoria was bustling, several young hookers plying their wares around the back streets, but numbers definitely down from my last visit in january when the place seemed to be teeming with young street hookers. we got chatting to one expat drinking at a local bar who claims **** hookers have been taking guys back to some of the nearby short time hotels, only for a couple of cops to burst in and demand payment. i don't know how true this is and though i don't condone the pratice using girls of questionable age, i also despise corruption, greed and dishonest practices. just a warning to other mongers to be on your guard.

just want to say thanks to kongking for introducing me to a completely hidden expat community in cdo, one that seems to be friendly, thriving and very active. ignore some of the posters who say there are not many foreigners in cdo, that is just not an accurate assessment at all. ok compared to places like cebu there are not as many granted, but i would definitely consider cdo as one of my retirement destinations next year, one because i like the city for all sorts of reasons, but secondly you have a pretty well established and supportive expat community there.

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. I felt I had been set up and I was very candid with them about my feelings. I told her quite bluntly that she had no right to turn up unnanounced and to NEVER come to my hotel again without permission. I told her I had come to meet her daughter not her sister in law and to take a hike, especially as she had already stood me up. I quietly ranted at them for a few minutes both of them sat sullen looking as they listened. I pulled out a wad of 20 and 50 peso notes and said "I will pay your jeepney fare" but the sister in law said "we don't want your money thank you" and both women sauntered off like scolded schoolchildren.

I then got a text from the mother about 15 minutes later saying how badly I had treated them and that they had spent over 300 pesos on a taxi fare to get there. I called her bluff and sent a text back quote " I saw you arrive by jeepney you liar, you stood me up yesterday and you arrive here without your daughter and without you letting me know, don't waste my time again". I never heard from her after that[/QUOTE]I am glad it ended up OK for you Mortman but these sort of things scare me a bit, especially since they already know where you are staying and what you look like. I assume they didn't know your room number.

Just to elaborate. I had a mate stay in Cebu at Eddie's Hotel a year or so ago (before it became Beverly Boutique) and he had a very similar scenario to you. Sent 2 women off like you did. He got a text a few minutes after they had left saying they were going to report him to the police for assaulting them. He guessed they were bluffing but soon after he got a fone call from reception saying there was a guy downstairs asking for him. He freaked out and told the woman at reception to say he wasn't there and he left the hotel by the back door. He returned a few hours later when he assumed the coast was clear and checked out and went to another hotel. It seems from what he was told by the receptionist later that it was probably the woman's husband who was at reception but he never found out any further details. Luckily the receptionist was discreet and called him up without giving anything away to the visitor. I don't think you can underestimate what these pissed-off pinoys can and might do, so I err on the side of extreme caution. It just gets way too complicated and remember - the customer might always be right but the foreigner is always wrong.

I must say my absolutely fundamental rule is NEVER tell women where you are staying until you are already in the taxi going back to the hotel and she has got her hand in your lap.