Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Razor; 1552861]Interesting, I always wonder about these girls. Please PM her info, I'd love to try her. Thanks.

R.[/QUOTE]Yes definitely interesting.

Can you please PM me their info and contact?

Thanks bro

Thanks for your reports, Sir Lancelot. Great detail and very helpful for others.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1555199]I took the crowded A1 'shuttle bus' from Don Muang Airport to Mo Chit, which cost 30 baht and took 15 minutes. From Mo Chit I took the skytrain to Ekkamai. It cost 42 baht, there were 16 stops and it took about half an hour.[/QUOTE]I think there's a more efficient way to do this trip on public transit. Don Muang and Suvarnabhumi Airport are connected with a free bus service. Some of the Ekkamai to Pattaya buses stop at Suvarnabhumi on the way. Since you didn't leave Ekkamai til 5:00 pm you probably got caught in rush hour. Don Muang to Suvarnabhumi to Pattaya might have avoided the rush hour, making the whole trip quicker and cheaper. This might help others in a similar situation.

Thanks again for the field reports.

[QUOTE=Bartchamdo;1555361](...) making the whole trip quicker and cheaper. (...)[/QUOTE]We have to drop our Western attitude of wanting everything to be quick and cheap. This is Thailand, relax. If you chase your happiness it will escape you always.

Sir Lancelot took the long way and look, "a spectacularly pretty girl" stood next to him. Look at a pretty girl or be in your hotel 30 minutes faster? I know what I want (be in my hotel with the pretty girl).

I take the shuttle to Suvanabumi, free with today's boarding pass. 40 min to 1 1/2 hrs, depending on traffic and then the Jomtien bus for 124 bt. 1 1/2 hrs, from Teeprasit Road which is the last stop and the most convenient, after that it is just the 10 bt bus to and down second road. 15 min. What saves time down the road is to buy the ticket for the way back to the airport while you are there.

[QUOTE=Mooris7;1552934]Finally I took the plunge and visited Pattaya after 3 years of living in Bangkok. I was really not that impresses. I looked at the girls on Beach road and they reminded me of street hookers back home or the ones in the Nana parking lot. My idea is if the girls have to work on the street instead if a go go, normal bar as a FL, or a lady in a staff bar then they have some issues- HIV, bad attitudes, post or per op ladyboy, amd or maybe just a typical thief or scammer. I checked out the massage parlours a the I prefer Bangkok's must more. Quality of white skin hotties is much greater. On walking street the typical go go's were in full swing. I looked in most of them and they were not any different than Bangkok. So why go to Pattaya? Bargain prices on Soi 6 ot beach road would be the only reason to choose Pattaya as a mongering destination in my option. I think Bangkok offers everything that Pattaya does and more. I ended up at one of those outside beer garden type places on walking street. In one section there is about 12-20 small little bars each with about 10 girls working. Their job is to sell drinks, including lady drinks, and find a potential customer to bar fine them for the night. Customer drinks are about 100-150THB. Lady drinks are about 50-80THB more. The bar fine is 300-400THB. There are many real cute and beautiful spinners in these small bars all located in one pad area in walking street. 1500ST and 2000-3000LT. So I found myself a little hottie for the night and all was good. Can you find all this in Bangkok? Yes, but it was a good experience anyways.[/QUOTE]As a newbie to Thailand. I just came back from Bangkok and Pattaya and I prefer Pattaya over Bangkok much more!

1. Club scene. Pattaya you have Insomia, Mixx, Flexx, Marine, Pier and more all on Walking Street. Bangkok had Insanity (and that was only because a girl showed me it. There might be more).

2. Beach (Although beach looked like crap, I will have to take the boat out to the nicer beach I hear).

3. Beach Road and Soi 6 (Bangkok seems to be lacking in ST places). Will need to explore more, but these types of places are hit or miss and you would get better value and time pulling a girl from a club.

As for equating streetwalkers or freelancers in a club to HIV is just wrong. There are numerous reasons why some do not want to work in a gogo. One of which is a usually rigid schedule. If she has kids, part timer, student, etc, most can't commit to a fulltime gig at a gogo (This is my experience in South America).

pattaya, friday.

although last night was an excellent start to my time in pattaya, it had taken its toll. i woke with 'morning glory' and my dick felt sore due to the friction burn i'd got at the soapy. don't laugh, it's not funny. it would probably keep me out of action for today, which was frustrating but it wasn't the end of the world. i was meeting macca later for a 'gogo crawl' on walking street so even if i didn't bar-fine a girl, at least i could treat it as reconnaissance! it was a hot day so i spent the afternoon at the beach. it was crowded but i enjoyed watching hot russian girls walk past. sunglasses were invented to surreptitiously perv on girls in bikinis.

i ate at a thai restaurant near my hotel and afterwards noticed a familiar face at kannika beer-bar, opposite the night bazaar. it was poum, a girl i bar-fined five years ago on my cherry trip to pattaya. back then she talked about going back to her province to open a shop and in subsequent years i haven't seen her. but there she was, looking older but still wearing the same lovely smile. i considered saying hello but i didn't want to be late for my meeting with macca. i'd have chance to speak to her on another night.

i walked to walking street along beach road. from the end of soi 12 i counted 87 freelancers of different shapes and sizes, including girls from each end of the age spectrum. on the one hand i saw perhaps the oldest streetwalker i have ever seen, probably pushing 50. in contrast i saw several pretty young girls who could easily be dolled up to work in one of the top-end gogo bars. i saw one however who must surely have been ****, she looked about 15 to me. a big gorilla of a man was talking to her, probably three times her age and four times her weight. further on i saw two black girls. one had a big afro and a slinky figure. although i've fucked many black girls in amsterdam, i've never had a 'girlfriend experience' with one. i thought i was going to tick it off my 'bucket list' last year when i met a black girl off the internet. i went to her house and after enduring a mind-numbingly tedious rom-com (aren't they all?) , we were all over each other on her couch. there was lots of kissing and groping and before long she was giving me a handjob as i fingered her pussy. but when i pulled a condom out of my pocket she said "i'm not a slapper!" western women confuse me. giving me a handjob on a first date was okay but apparently sex would make her a 'slapper'! still, a handjob for a cheap bottle of white wine, i couldn't complain.

beach road is the bargain basement of pattaya and people who deride the quality of girls are missing the point. of course the large majority are lower rung girls but the beauty of any freelance scene is that you only need to find one girl to make it worthwhile. of the 87 girls i spotted three i'd happily spend the night with. and of course if i did decide to take one back to my hotel, i would pay considerably less than if i took a girl from a gogo bar. having said that, i think it's fair to say that the pretty young things would charge more than the 50 year old granny!

the time was 8. 40pm when i stepped on to walking street. it was packed with tourists, couples and even the occasional monger. indian men walked down the street filming on their camera and 20 identically dressed japanese women gathered under a tour-guides flag. there were lots of russian couples too, generally comprising of an attractive blond and a muscle-bound boyfriend sporting a mullet. russian guys look like they could be in an 80's soft rock video. i wouldn't say that to their face though.

i arrived at alcatraz and sat on a stool outside and ordered a draft beer. i enjoyed watching the 'hello girls' in action, handcuffs dangling from their leather belts, waving their 'happy hour' and '79 baht beer' signs to the river of people flowing past. i noticed a short man walk in to alcatraz and then thirty seconds later he walked out before repeating the process in farenheit next door. it's a pet hate of mine when guys do this and i know from speaking with girls that they find it disrespectful too. suddenly i saw a jack bauer lookalike waving enthusiastically from the crowd of people. it was macca looking more ripped than i remember."you've been working out!" i said as he shook my hand. it was great to catch up. he told me about his trip so far which had been mixed. he'd been with some great girls he told me but he'd also had a major scare when he fell off his motorbike and was lucky to escape with minor injuries.

normally people plot to escape from alcatraz but macca and i were desperate to get in. we took our beers inside and there were ten girls dancing, plus plenty on the sidelines. the quality was good and the standout was number 136. she had that killer combination of a beautiful face, a perfect toned body and she was a sexy mover too. if prisons had girls like her dancing topless every night, i'd hand myself in to police for a crime i didn't commit. a pretty girl sat on my lap but before we had chance to talk, all of the girls began banging ashtrays on the tables. i could barely hear myself think over all of the clank-clank-clanking. i realised it was to tie in with the prison theme. either that or the girls were having a protest at how skimpy their outfits were. i really like alcatraz. there are some pretty girls, the staff are very friendly and there is no pressure at all to buy lady-drinks. even the girl who sat on my lap didn't ask for one.

it was 10pm when we walked in to beach club. this was one of my favourite bars last year but sadly they've now changed the layout. there used to be a dozen round tables, each of which would have on it a naked young hottie. every five minutes the girls would step on to the next table which meant customers got a good close-up view of lots of naked girls. but now it's been transformed in to a standard gogo bar with a rectangular stage in the middle surrounded by two tiers of seats. fortunately the quality of girls was the same. all were young and i saw several hotties."you wait till you see number 98" said macca as we ordered two beers. before the drinks came back, two young girls walked over and plonked themselves next to macca and i. the girl next to me was extremely cute, with fair hair and a japanese-style fringe. her name was tom and she 19 years old. when i offered her a drink she gave me a big metal-mouthed smile.

this bar definitely has some pretty girls. a 9/10 walked past wearing 405 and macca pointed out a stunning waitress sat on a stool next to the stage. we agreed that she was the prettiest girl in the bar. however, her arms were folded and she looked rather glum. macca decided to go and speak to her but came back a minute later unimpressed."she didn't smile once" he said. when i said "why you not smile?" her friend said "she smile if you buy her drink". it's horrible when you encounter girls like this who clearly dislike their job. in stark contrast, tom was a little ray of sunshine. she told me "have to go dance now" and i watched with amusement as she climbed up on stage and danced for thirty seconds before a shift-change was called. she came back to sit next to me, grinning, and i said "shortest dance ever!" at least it gave me chance to admire her petite frame in a skimpy outfit.

although my plan was to have a girl-free night tonight, i knew there was a chance i might give in to temptation. tom seemed pleased when i angled her badge round so i could read her number. she was 603. even if i didn't bar-fine her tonight, i could always come back another time.

it was my turn to pick where to go and i opted for heavenabove. it's located on soi diamond above super baby. the steps have 'stairway to heaven' written on them but sadly there weren't many angels inside. last year i'd been impressed by this place and saw a few lovely girls including a 10/10, but this time there were just eight girls dancing and the standard was below par. 328 was the prettiest, with a stylish short hair-cut that made her stand out. another girl had a 5/10 face but a large pair of tits that macca and i decided were definitely real."enough wobble" was the consensus of opinion.

our favourite club last year was happy agogo, located at the end of soi happy. it has two stages and is always ram-jam-packed with customers. it was 11pm when we entered and macca immediately fell in love with number 15, a stunning girl with long legs. ten girls were dancing and every few minutes they each took a step forward. the girl at the front stepped off the stage and a new girl got on at the back. it's like a conveyor belt of pretty girls. as a result, the stools at the front of the stage are the best seats in happy. if you are lucky enough to sit at one and you see a girl you like, you can intercept her as she steps off the stage. an elderly japanese man wearing a baseball cap did exactly that with macca's dream girl, number 15. they talked briefly before he slipped a green note in to her bra."it'll take more than 20 baht to impress a girl like that" said macca with a smile. we both followed her with our eyes as she walked around the stage and sat with another customer. i made a mental note of her number for another night perhaps. all of the girls were easy on the eye but i didn't see any other standout options. it's funny, back in england i would crawl over hot coals to talk to any of these girls, but when in pattaya there are so many to choose from it's easy to become blase. macca and i were impressed by an average looking girl who danced with tremendous effort and enthusiasm. it was hypnotic to watch her slim body in perfect rhythm to the music. it suggested that she might be a tiger in bed.

next we touched down at airport, located back on walking street itself. it's a cosy bar and 10 girls were dancing with a few more writhing about in a jacuzzi. the place was crowded with customers and there wasn't anywhere to sit, so a couple of cute girls vacated their seats next to the door. i like these intimate bars as you are up-close-and-personal with the girls. macca had warned me that the standard of girls was down this year and he was right, the talent was surprisingly average. there were of course some pretty girls, including three fresh-faced honeys who were trying to sell tequila shots to customers. one of them pretended to cry when i told her that i didn't want one but then ruined our fledgling romance by asking "you buy me drink?" it's a big turn-off for me when a girl asks for a drink before names are even exchanged!

one problem with airport is that the girls dance in the same spot for too long. we were sat next to the exit so we only had a good view of the girl at the end of the stage. she was a tall 7/10 wearing fashionably thick glasses and she danced in front of us for 20 minutes, facing the opposite direction. macca and i decided to pay our bill but then two interesting things happened. firstly a topless young cutie sat on my lap who had an impressive pair of tits."i go now" i told her but at that moment there was a dance-shift change and a fantastic girl got up to dance right in front of us. she had a fresh-faced appeal and, wow, what a mover! macca and i watched mesmerised as she gyrated sexily around a chrome pole. she was topless and had a small pair of tits and her nipples were erect as she was dancing beneath the air-con (a trick bars use to get their girls to dance with more gusto!). she wasn't wearing a badge, so on my way out i picked up her bra that lay discarded on the stage. there was no number on that either."my name nom" she told me and i replied "you suay mak mak". i imagine myself to be like james bond when i deliver lines with such devastating effect.

i was having a great night. we had been to five bars and i'd met some fabulous girls. the prettiest so far were 15 from happy, nom from airport and the moody waitress from beach (who was eliminated from contention due to her lousy attitude). my favourite girl of the night though was tom, the cutie i bought a drink for in beach club. she was cute as a button and seemed lots of fun. it occurred to me that she was the only girl i'd bought a lady-drink for so far tonight.

at midnight we entered sensations, supposedly one of the best bars in pattaya. like all bars tonight, it was packed with customers. there were two rectangular stages with 10 girls crowded on each. the quality of girls was excellent. as i looked for somewhere to sit, a girl grabbed me and said "i love you" somewhat forwardly. she had a sexy body but the face of a hardened pro. i continued walking. five minutes later i noticed that she was sat astride another customer, pulling his face in to her tits. she'd moved on quickly! in front of the stage were several smartly dressed young waitresses and macca took a shine to one of them. he pretended to straighten the small tie she was wearing and once she sussed out his sense of humour, she smiled. it was the type of smile that could stop wars. she wasn't a sex-bomb or stunner like the girls on stage, she was just a very sweet, very pretty girl. she wore number 99. macca must have been in love because it was the quickest i've ever seen him offer a girl a drink.

as macca got to know her, i concluded that sensations definitely lives up to its name. there were lots of pretty girls but sadly, as is often the case, most of my favourites were with customers. timing and good luck play a key part in any gogo crawl. as i looked around, a 4/10 sat across my lap. i knew i wouldn't be bar-fining her but it's nice to have a nubile young body sat on your lap.

macca tapped me on the shoulder and told me that he really liked the waitress but when he asked about her bar-fine, she told him that she doesn't go with customers. she explained that when she first worked at the bar she was a dancer but she hated it and spent an hour each night under the shower because she "felt dirty". after just one week she asked whether she could be a waitress instead. however, macca told me that he was going to try to tempt her with a high offer and he wanted my advice. fortunately i had researched the place so i told him that 2000 was the correct short-time price although girls would ask for 2500. he gave it some thought and offered her a very generous 3000. she was tempted but stuck to her guns and said "sorry, no go with customers". she seemed apologetic but macca respected her decision. she'd tried her hand at pay-for-play and it wasn't for her so now she was just trying to make an honest buck working as a waitress. good luck to her.

we went to what's up next, located on soi 15 off walking street. macca said he had visited it earlier in his trip and it had some of the "prettiest girls in pattaya". there was a horror theme and ten girls were dancing onstage to michael jackson's 'thriller'. the waitresses were wearing scary masks and one escorted me to a stool next to the stage. she kissed me on the lips through her mask, which i found quite exciting as i didn't know what her face looked like.

the quality of girls was outstanding but sadly they didn't wear numbers so i couldn't make a note of my favourites. as i was looking around a 9/10 sat on my knee. her name was pom and she was a very cute 19 year old. i bought her a lady-drink and the more we chatted, the more i liked her. she had the looks, the body and was fun and flirty as well, definite bar-fine material. macca pointed out a pretty girl he had bar-fined before from a different bar. he told me that she had not looked a day over 18 and now, well, she still didn't look a day over 18. she spotted him, walked over and sat on his knee. the music changed and a white leather couch was carried on to the stage on which three topless girls writhed about and simulated sex acts. it was fun to watch from our front-row seats. one part was quite raunchy so i covered pom's eyes which made her laugh. on the other stage a blond with big tits pole-danced, spinning around and hanging upside while doing mid-air splits. i like bars that put on a bit of a show.

the bar-fine in what's up is 1000 baht and macca's girl quoted him a hefty 3000 for short-time. i wasn't surprised as my research revealed this to be one of the most expensive bars in pattaya. i didn't plan on taking a girl tonight but i asked pom how much as she would be a good option for another night. she quoted me 3000 for short-time as well. i'm pretty sure that could be talked down to 2500 but that is still 500 baht too expensive. it's a shame because what's up is in the top 5 bars in pattaya in terms of quality of girls.

by now the time was 1. 30am and it was my turn to choose bar. i opted for baccara as its namesake in bangkok has a reputation for having some of the prettiest girls. it's a big bar with two floors and although it can be difficult to get a place downstairs, we managed to fluke two leather seats next to the stage. we sat back and admired the view. 15 girls were dancing and from my vantage point i could see through the glass ceiling that some of the girls on the floor above weren't wearing underwear. the standout girl had a japanese look with pale skin and long curly blond hair. she was exactly the type that japanese customers drool over, undoubtedly one of the most popular girls in the club. just like baccara in bangkok, the girls looked very serious and there was minimal interaction with customers. thankfully the atmosphere picked up when a man threw a wad of 20 baht notes on to the stage. they fluttered to the floor and the girls screamed and scrambled around, picking up the loose notes. suddenly the girls were having fun. a 20 baht note fluttered below my stool so i picked it up and passed it to one of the girls on stage who gave me a big smile.

by now it was late and i felt under the weather, a combination of too much alcohol and an upset stomach. i told macca it was time for me to go and thanked him for a great night. it was nearly 2am and the number of girls on beach road had thinned out. i'd guess there were about 30 girls, most of whom were rather well-worn.

although i hadn't taken a girl, i'd had a great night. it was good to see macca again and i'd been impressed with walking street. the talent levels were high and i had several strong candidates for another time perhaps. bar-fine prices on walking street might be expensive but that was off-set by the fact that we weren't pressured in to buying lady-drinks. furthermore because there are so many gogo bars in competition on walking street, there are plenty of happy-hours to be found. it was a relatively cheap night given the amount of naked flesh we had seen!

i got back to lek hotel and fell asleep as soon as my head hit the pillow.

You're my hero. Who needs lonely planet or trip advisor when you are out there blazing trails and writing with such aplomb. Bravo. GT

Fabulous reports Sir L!

You manage to provide useful info even when you don't hook up for the night.

I will definitely be by to take a look at those stunners you I'd at various Gogos during my upcoming visit in a couple of weeks.

I'll also try and report my findings. Though it will be difficult to match your reports.

You have indeed sent the bar high you "Handsum mann" you!

Stay horny my friend...

Uncle V

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[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1555199]As she was rinsing the suds off afterwards, I felt a sharp pain. After a close examination of my erection, I realised that Taw's soapy massage had been so intense and vigorous I had a small friction burn! Presumably it was caused because there weren't enough suds on the mattress when I lay down. Coincidentally the only other time this has happened was my first ever visit to Sabai Dee with a girl called Atom. Soapies should come with a health warning![/QUOTE]Any extended rubbing with soap, whether the usual brief hand-job in a normal soapy in the bath-tub or the body-to-body rubbing in one of these unusual ones that have a mattress, is hazardous to your skin. It feels good at first, but one should allow no more than a perhaps thirty seconds of such rubbing. Oil is better for the skin, soap is highly damaging.

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1556182][/QUOTE]Another great report, and I can sympathise with the experience of spending an evening looking for the right girl, only to realise that the clock is ticking away, you have to make a decision, and suddenly all the best girls have disappeared! And of course should you decide to bar-fine a 'second tier' girl, a stunner will walk around the corner. My plan is always to be tucked up in bed by midnight, so if thinks go a little awry, there is time to put things right. In this case I guess you should have trusted your instincts and avoided a girl who had previously been stand-offish for whatever reason.

I had a slightly less bad experience with a girl who told me that she didn't like the job while we were on the job, as it were. I had of course realised it by then. Both before and after she was perfectly pleasant, even offering me her phone number after. I think I forgot to write it down.

(And I hate to be picky, but 3,600 baht at Devil's Den gets you 90 minutes. 2 hours costs 4,400 baht).

[QUOTE=Sir Lancelot;1556182]The time was 3. 30am and I didn't feel in the mood to go and find another girl. It neatly summed up my time in Pattaya so far. Although I'd fucked a girl in Dream Teen earlier, this was my second girl-free night in a row. It was about time this trip started delivering me some quality girls.[/QUOTE]When I walk around to find a companion for the night, I take the first one that grabs my attention. Yes, there might be a better one 5 minutes in the future or just around the corner. But then again, there might not and one cannot calculate the probabilities of improving your hand. Mongering is not a poker game!

It helps to define beforehand what is your fancy for that night. Say I want someone with tanned skin, long hair, small tits but big nipples and trimmed pussy (I mainly go to agogo clubs where the girls dance nude, so I can check it all out). If after visiting one or two establishments I did not find anyone who ticks all boxes of my requirements I will accept someone with all but one of the requirements, and so on until you find one. Usually, it doesn't take long to find someone. Of course, next to these requirements, she must have a nice personality, smile at me and willing to kiss (DFK if possible, you can test that already in the club or bar).

This system is almost a sure-fire method of finding someone and not getting caught on the horns of the dilemma of "this one or perhaps there is a better one in the next bar".

Hi Fellow members,

Want some advice about the best escort agency in Pattaya.

Being average in looks and build, and also to save time in choosing, I am looking for more DFK kind gals.

Any help would be appreciated. Shall be visiting soon to Pattaya and reporting back.

Cheers

Has Devil's Den changed its number?

I tried calling it several times but can't get through.

[QUOTE=Lord Necros; 1556528]Has Devil's Den changed its number?

I tried calling it several times but can't get through.[/QUOTE]Maybe they closed for a few days for Songkran.