Sao Paulo Reports

I just ate at a new French restaurant just a few minutes walk from the Hilton Double Tree in Itaim Bibi, Sao Paulo. It is Manuel emporio Cafe Bistro. It is on the same street as the DoubleTree. Rua Manuel guedes, 426 Itaim. I met the owners son Rafiel and we had a nice visit. I was the only one in the restaurant for dinner. The chef fixed me some wonderful steaks (two) with a sauce to die for, salad, fries and a mixed strawberry / orange juice drink. Total 115 reais. Hope someone gets to try it.

[QUOTE=HughJass;2678393]...It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing too...[/QUOTE]Do you mean for 300 for two hours? Which clinica?

What time were you at Scandallo? I am curious what these expensive Scandallo girls look like. I have never been quoted price that high. I am thinking it is because I dressed poor, haha. If you can't negotiate price, try negotiate time instead.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2678282]Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?[/QUOTE]Bottom 5-10%? Says who?

First, I don't think garotas de programa are that bad. I think they are lovely people, in the business of pleasing men and making some money for themselves. I love them with all my heart and wish them great success. I think that girls from Scandallo can compete in practically any beauty contest. So, they are not at the bottom of anything, in my view.

We are top 10%.

Hoaring is a luxury.

I too love hoars and they are lovely people.

It is legit work, but it's not good work and never will be in the christian world.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2678478]Bottom 5-10%? Says who?

First, I don't think garotas de programa are that bad. I think they are lovely people, in the business of pleasing men and making some money for themselves. I love them with all my heart and wish them great success. I think that girls from Scandallo can compete in practically any beauty contest. So, they are not at the bottom of anything, in my view.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hobbying;2678255]There are med students and lawyers in Scandallo, I know I did a few. There is not a rigorous entry requirements for law, med, dental schools in BR so basically if they an pay the tuition at a private school you're in. Med school is about 10,000 R a month so yea either they have rich fam or work and will make about 10,000 R a month when done. Dental and law school is about 2000 R a month because coming out of school they make 3-4000 R a month so you will find them working still at boates or sites. Why some are educated and still work is because of the low salary and the high cost of living in SP and when they are use to making 10-20,000 R a month it's hard to give up that lifestyle.[/QUOTE]This makes all the sense in the world, I know plenty of girls in the US that danced at strip clubs to pay for college, often seeing guys outside for cash. Not that rare anywhere, it seems the boates are just the much better comparative for our strip clubs. Not hard to believe this at all.

[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2678454]I just ate at a new French restaurant just a few minutes walk from the Hilton Double Tree in Itaim Bibi, Sao Paulo. It is Manuel emporio Cafe Bistro. It is on the same street as the DoubleTree. Rua Manuel guedes, 426 Itaim. I met the owners son Rafiel and we had a nice visit. I was the only one in the restaurant for dinner. The chef fixed me some wonderful steaks (two) with a sauce to die for, salad, fries and a mixed strawberry / orange juice drink. Total 115 reais. Hope someone gets to try it.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I will be in 4 days in Doubletree as well.

How did you get there from GRU?

Still scared of greve starting on 31.3. For trucks.

About to start day 3 as I type this. More errands had to get done, I should've brought more than one credit card because I've had several problems including uber. That didn't stop me from sessioning with a skinny Ruiva in Liberdade and going to 57 Chanes at night where it is a clinica priced boate with good staff. The mamasan running it also speaks some English. There I found a rare delectable fruit I did not expect to see. So far my batting average is 1 every 14 hours.

[QUOTE=Kcrl01;2678282]Interesting observation, if garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society. What does that say about us?[/QUOTE]Any monger who thinks that garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society has poor self esteem.

This week I am at the Hilton Double Tree in Ibaim. I have to leave Sunday afternoon but will be back the next Wednesday till Sunday again. I do have two girl friends who are jealous of my time but I would be up to meet for a lunch or something.

[QUOTE=ParsTiger;2678407]I'm here till Monday so I'm down for it. I've spent most of my time putting out fires like Uber not wanting to work or finding working ATMs etc. I think paying 60+'per night is paying for itself in the form of hotel employees that speak English.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Turgid;2678644]Any monger who thinks that garotas de program are the bottom 5-10% of society has poor self esteem.[/QUOTE]I agree, I don't look down on sex workers and don't think anyone should, especially in other parts of the world that haven't been suffering from hysterical puritanism that stigmatizes sex and sex work like we do in the US. In the US many are doing it because it's all they can do, but many others are doing it because they like it and are good at it, and I think that's great. I also think the rise of twitter and onlyfans and other platforms that allow women more autonomy has been incredibly positive, both for women controlling what they do.

[QUOTE=SamaRiding;2678446]That's what I like about the clinicas. It's fixed price. No negotiation. Almost all of the clinicas, except for a few, you pay the clinicas and they will give the girl her portion at the end of day. Price is for time spent. First phone ring is at 50-55 minutes, and the second phone ring is 5-10 minutes after. I have had plenty of sessions go over the second ring and I never got charge more. In most clinicas, you pay the receptionist after and they don't know if you just got a massage or came 5 times. Probably 90% of girls will allow one shot for 30 minutes and two shots for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Oh, okay. I guess my experience wasn't out of the ordinary then. I'm used to 1 hour meaning 1 shot. I had my one shot about 30 minutes in and then showered and was getting dressed to leave when she invited me for more. I'm not sure why she just didn't let me leave. We went again until they called. Pretty awesome experience nonetheless though.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2678464]What time were you at Scandallo? I am curious what these expensive Scandallo girls look like. I have never been quoted price that high. I am thinking it is because I dressed poor, haha. If you can't negotiate price, try negotiate time instead.[/QUOTE]I was there from 9 pm to 1 am, and I was dressed moderately well. I was only talking to the girls I found most attractive and that spoke English. Maybe it's the English premium. What shocked me is that they turned down 800. Even if they are trying to take advantage of a gringo, it surprises me they would let me walk when offering 800.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2678405]They're working you based on the exchange rate because you're a gringo. You know what the rate is, and so do they. Do not give one of those tutes more than R1,000![/QUOTE]I ended up paying one 1000. She was beautiful, but the sex wasn't out of this world for me. She wouldn't let me touch or eat her pussy, which I really like. She did BBBJ and was good at sex though. The sex at the clinica was a lot better, but the girl was not as stunning as the Scandallo girls.

[QUOTE=WonderWhy;2678453]I met two of the girls in the hotel lobby and were dressed like regular guests. When I walked by they caught my eye and stood up and introduced themselves to me. They were sitting right by the front door. One spoke English but the other was prettier. The one who spoke English asked me if I wanted one of them to go to my room with me. Since I had a companion for the night that was much prettier, younger and built like a model I politely told them I was occupied for the night.[/QUOTE]I like that team approach.

[QUOTE=HughJass;2678393]I went to Scandallo for the first time earlier this week. It's a nice club. I was impressed by the atmosphere. It had a lot of fun walking around, talking to so many beautiful women. The food wasn't bad either. I was not able to get the prices many on this forum have mentioned. The girls all wanted 1000 to 1500 for a short time upstairs. I offered 500,600, 700, even up to 800 with the girls. They all refused. Two beautiful girls offered a threesome and wanted 3000 total. Holy shit. They would not accept less. I'm in my 30's, moderately attractive, fit, but definitely a gringo. I felt like the girls were trying to take advantage of me for that. I thought eventually I'd find one to accept something under 1000, but no luck. I think I might try going again next week, but I'm a bit discouraged by the prices.

I've had some great experiences at the clinicas though. I had a session yesterday. The girl was very good, and I came faster than I had expected. I assumed our session was done and took a shower. After the shower, the girl asked me for more. I thought it was just a ploy to get me to pay for another hour or something, but it wasn't expensive, so I figured why not. It turned out not to be a ploy. I was ready to leave, but she wanted to fuck again. It was only 300 for both. The sex was amazing too. I was very surprised how into she was. We were both dripping with sweat when we finished. I loved watching her body convulse when she came too. Awesome experience.[/QUOTE]Not only your mileage may vary, but your price may vary as well. YPMV LOL. Folks say they pay or used to pay 500 in 2021 (see one of the recent posts). Brazil got hit with post-covid inflation? Or there is an influx of gringos? Go figure.

[QUOTE=MiamiBoy1;2678697]Not only your mileage may vary, but your price may vary as well. YPMV LOL. ....[/QUOTE]Would you share some Colombia Seeking profiles or pictures that you have considered but rejected or no longer needs? That will provide some context on what you talk about.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2678644]...poor self esteem.[/QUOTE]The questions I wonder about are will I marry one? If I marry one, will I tell others her profession? Does self esteem has anything to do with either?