Bangkok Massage Parlors - Except TULIP and ANNIES!

[QUOTE=Manderly;1971147]So, I went to my first soapy yesterday (Emmanulle), and it was a pretty lousy experience. I had been pretty excited to go after reading about soapies here and elsewhere, so I'm wondering if I just got ripped off / taken advantage of, got a rare dud, or was just expecting something unreasonable.

I got there around 8 and picked #42, although plenty of others would have been OK too. She was by far the hottest girl I've been with since arriving in BKK a few days ago both in face and body, but the session itself left much to be desired.

There was no kissing, covered BJ only, no body massage, no sliding with soapy suds (why even call it a soapy at that point? And 1 single, rather unenthusiastic coupling. The whole thing struck me as mechanical and highly unerotic, despite the hotness of the girl. In fact, we were done within about 40 minutes, and she even seemed hesitant to let me touch her after that, insisting that any further contact would cost me extra. Even if I were considering it to begin with, I sure as hell was not going to pay (even more) with that attitude.

So, which one is it? Did I unfortunately stumble upon a dud, one who sensed my inexperience and decided to milk it for all it was worth, or is this sort of thing standard for soapies and I'm just expecting too much?[/QUOTE]Yes you got a dud, and they are not all that uncommon. Soapy refers to the Soapy Suds bath more than anything. Body slide girls were still a possible thing at Emmanuelle a couple of years back but I did not check recently about that. I used to have a collection of favorite soapy girls to visit at Amsterdam, La Belle, Utopia, Emanuelle, etc. , but most of these have disappeared. No. 14 at Annies was still good for me, but I don't like the rooms much.

One can assume that there was no chemistry between you and the girl. She may prefer Thai customers, or Japanese or Korean. Could be a racial issue as well. Many Thais are racists.

In Thai these Places are called "Aap Op Nuat", which means "bathe, steam, and massage". No reference to body slides.

For a good body slide I suggest you go to Dr. BJ Nuru now renamed to Chrome bar in Sukhumvit Soi 7/1. Body slides are still available at some Soapy places. Perhaps Chao Praya 2, in Sri Ayuthaya Road still has them. That was my original favorite place till it went into decline and most body slide girls were not at all slim.

Annies has body slide but in cramped space, also can be had at Colonze 2, and various Nuru shops. Most body slide places have shut down. Do not go to J One or Cupidy as these are rip off places.

My big problem at Soapy places is to find enough pretty girls without nose jobs or silicones, that are not dick scared and will give GFE with DFK. Used to be so easy to get these at Chao Praya 2 and Mona Lisa and Cleopatra up to 10 years ago, but these days I am not sure where to look for a good price. Things declined badly after Thaksin came to power in Thailand, and all the girls that were not Thai citizens or age problem were swept out. Recently we had a second sweep out period and Nataree was shut down.

Nothing has declined so badly as the girls in the Soapies, in my view. This caused me to start trying Oily MPs from about 10 years ago. These also declined or I became a lot more choosy. Bars also declined in terms of big price rise, and too many surgeries girls and too many young fatties.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1971497]Why do I use them? Mostly for convenience. When I land in Thailand, I am dead tired from the long trip. It typically takes me a couple of days to feel normal again. The soapies are excellent venues in those first few days. It takes little effort, just point to a girl or a number, and voila you get to shag a chick. When I started going to LOS, back in 2004, they were a lot of fun. Not so much these days. But it certainly beats the hassle of going out for the chase, buying drinks and chatting the girls.[/QUOTE]10 to 15 years ago I agree, I would prefer a Soapy. If happened to get a weak girl, at Chao Praya 2, no matter, just book another one to follow on. Prices were very reasonable. It still took me a lot of time to view the girls, size them up, and finally make a choice. I had a good mamasan to advise me too.

I actually prefer now to view girls naked in a bar for some time, finally call over one or more for a chat, and take time to make the decision. Its not so cheap these days that a mistake is no big deal. I really have been able to minimise the bar girl mistakes in the last two years by being very patient and not choosing in a rush like I used to.

Unfortunately dick scared girls cannot be easily predicted whether at a Soapy, a Bar or an Oily, Disco, Freelancer whatever. Have found a very high incidence of dick scared girls at Soapies in recent years. Better for me to choose mothers. LOL. Also I am often disappointed in the girl's bodies after they take the clothes off. It is hard to see the figure with Soapy girls seated. If they can stand, that helps a lot. Annies asks girls to stand, but it is all too quick to really look at figure detail in time.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1971597]Good questions. From what I hear, there are some very lonely Korean guys, and Thai girls are way cheaper / less materialistic than local Koreans are. Like, there isn't a good GFE providing P4 P industry in Korea. It involves something like buying the girls $300 hand bags and them not putting out but they get to spend a few hours with them pretending to be their boyfriend. So he probably got tired of that, headed to Thailand, and fell for the first girl he liked who actually puts out.[/QUOTE]Yes, Korean gals are materialistic, but my experience is that they deliver the goods in bed. Far more intense, nastier, and more fun than Thai gals. I would never want to date one, but as far as P4 P goes the ones I have been with have blown most Thai gals out of the water. Nice white skin as well.

[QUOTE=*****man;1971336]Nonny's got herself a Korean boyfriend / sponsor who she met in Snow White and has gone back to Nakhon Phanom. What's up with these young Korean guys? She was great for a one hour 3 hole session but I don't see PSE massage shops as the right place to be looking for long-term relationships. Hopefully it won't last and she'll be back.[/QUOTE]Most girls would be glad to find a good man to take them away from it all. However problems occur.

Sometimes the girls imagined a far more quiet sex life but find the boyfriend wants to fuck several times per day. Sometimes she is happier with sex once or twice a week.

Sometimes the man can't sustain the very high cost of supporting the girl and her extended family of parents and brothers and sisters. She turns out to be just too expensive. He suddenly realises it was much cheaper per fuck to visit her as a customer. Sometimes the man has tricked her into thinking he is wealthy and she will live like a queen.

High sex requirements by the man and high money requirements by the girl are just some of the problems. A lot of the girls get forced to return more than once.

I would be really happy to find a hot girl who wanted sex just 5 to 7 times per week. Occasionally found girls that say they want it everyday, but reality is not the same.

[QUOTE=ParkVille;1971597]Good questions. From what I hear, there are some very lonely Korean guys, and Thai girls are way cheaper / less materialistic than local Koreans are. Like, there isn't a good GFE providing P4 P industry in Korea. It involves something like buying the girls $300 hand bags and them not putting out but they get to spend a few hours with them pretending to be their boyfriend. So he probably got tired of that, headed to Thailand, and fell for the first girl he liked who actually puts out.[/QUOTE]I know there's a matchmaking industry in Korea for rural men to find southeast Asian brides and can even understand some Korean guy falling in love with a girl he met in Thermae or somewhere like that. At least picking up a girl there can give you the impression of meeting a normal girl. But unless he stumbled into Snow White accidentally he must have known the nature of the place. Nonny is unusually sweet but she took a lot of dick in all 3 holes during her brief stint there. When this guy grows up that's going to give him something to think about.

[QUOTE=Goatscrot;1971664]...my experience is that they deliver the goods in bed. Far more intense, nastier, and more fun than Thai gals. I would never want to date one, but as far as P4 P goes the ones I have been with have blown most Thai gals out of the water. Nice white skin as well.[/QUOTE]My experience too. Back home, that's all I visit, just Korean WG. IMO, they are the best in every activity, be it DFK, P2 P, FS, massage. I can't have enough of them. Thank God there is plenty of them close to where I live, for now.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1971717]Most girls would be glad to find a good man to take them away from it all.[/QUOTE]A star PSE girl like Nonny must have had 4-5 customers a day which means she would have been earning maybe 200,000 baht a month. A lot of P4 P girls are looking for Mr Right but I think PSE girls are looking for quick money. Maybe she got the money she needs and is now happy with whatever this guy is paying her. I doubt this guy is a high earner though so might not be able to give her what she's used to.

[QUOTE=*****man;1971725]A star PSE girl like Nonny must have had 4-5 customers a day which means she would have been earning maybe 200,000 baht a month. A lot of P4 P girls are looking for Mr Right but I think PSE girls are looking for quick money. Maybe she got the money she needs and is now happy with whatever this guy is paying her. I doubt this guy is a high earner though so might not be able to give her what she's used to.[/QUOTE]An average girl doesn't make so much but a really top girl can get 150 K. I guess 200 K maybe fairly rare, I don't know the girl of course. Anyway, most guys can't afford to support a girl to the tune of 150 K per month. That is a bit beyond me, so I never comtemplated taking a 150 K girl away from it. LOL. There was such a girl that I seriously liked in the past, but 150 K is way too far. LOL.

Do math and work out how much it costs to support her on a per fuck basis, making some assumptions that sex might be often and damn good. LOL.

So rich benefactors only I think. Then you have to think of what other things she is great for, outside of sex. My GF doesn't bring to me many of the things I was expecting or hoping for, including not enough sex. Having a GF is not always so worthwhile whether great at sex or not. Costly though.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1971717]Most girls would be glad to find a good man to take them away from it all. [/QUOTE]I think that used to be the case 15 years ago, but now they make far more money and there are very few dudes that would support them at the monetary level they make at the oilies.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1971740]My GF doesn't bring to me many of the things I was expecting or hoping for, including not enough sex. Having a GF is not always so worthwhile whether great at sex or not. Costly though.[/QUOTE]"For every gorgeous woman out there, there's a guy tired of banging her." - Another relevant Charlie Sheen quote.

I myself begin to lose my desire for a girl after 1 week of monogamous sex with her no matter how sexy and beautiful she is. I need variety to stay hard and cum. That's why I will probably never settle down with just one girl. Perhaps a two girl relationship might work if the girls can get along. Ha Ha. But I would probably get tired of two girls after a while too if that's all there was.

[QUOTE=*****man;1971722]Nonny is unusually sweet but she took a lot of dick in all 3 holes during her brief stint there. When this guy grows up that's going to give him something to think about. [/QUOTE]But really, whether she had 1 or 10 or 100 of more "lovers" in the past, what difference does that make? Could one really be jealous about "lovers" of the past? The mind boggles! It takes a very insecure mind to be bothered by that.

I know the saying "You can take the girl out the bar, but not the bar out the girl", but that's another issue.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1971765]"For every gorgeous woman out there, there's a guy tired of banging her." - Another relevant Charlie Sheen quote.

I myself begin to lose my desire for a girl after 1 week of monogamous sex with her no matter how sexy and beautiful she is. I need variety to stay hard and cum. That's why I will probably never settle down with just one girl. Perhaps a two girl relationship might work if the girls can get along. Ha Ha. But I would probably get tired of two girls after a while too if that's all there was.[/QUOTE]That is not me. If the girl is good enough, I don't get tired of her too quick. One Gik I was doing occasionally for 20 years and at one period was weekly.

I never got tired of banging the GF either after 11 years, but just don't get it often enough. Lately I have a girl I could do every day, if she was available continuously. Best I have got was about 4 days in a row with her.

I won't take someone else in preference because I know she is better. My mongering is largely a function of being deprived of a beautiful fuck with a beautiful girl.

[QUOTE=Syzygies;1971847]That is not me. If the girl is good enough, I don't get tired of her too quick. One Gik I was doing occasionally for 20 years and at one period was weekly.

I never got tired of banging the GF either after 11 years, but just don't get it often enough. Lately I have a girl I could do every day, if she was available continuously. Best I have got was about 4 days in a row with her.

[/QUOTE]I can be very happy with a girl, having sex with her occasionally for a prolonged period of time too, if I really dig her and as long as I am getting lots of other girls on the side whenever I want it. But my point was that I know I could not stay satisfied with only one woman in monogamy, going to bed with her every single night. It wouldn't matter if she was a 19 year old Bridget Bardot. At a certain point I would become completely familiar with her and her body (her pussy and her tits) and at that point the relationship would hit the wall and begin to trend downward unless I could get away and find other women to satisfy my need for NEW.

On my last visit to Manila, I hooked up with my two favorite Makati Bar girls for 9 out the 10 nights I stayed there. Some of the guys over in the Makati forum ribbed me over this. I didn't mind their good-natured humor. I have known my two Makati girls for a few years now. On my last night in town I threw a farewell party in their bar. We had 10 Tequilas each. Both girls were blowing me in the bar. A girl friend of theirs joined us and she blew me in the bar too. Then all 4 of us jammed into a taxi back to my hotel were we really got it on. It was the best night I have had in at least 5 or 6 years. So I am thinking I need more than one girl, two girls minimum, for a lasting, satisfying, open relationship. 555.

Buddha, I miss SE Asia. I really miss the girls.

N.B.

[QUOTE=NattyBumpo;1971853]I can be very happy with a girl, having sex with her occasionally for a prolonged period of time too, if I really dig her and as long as I am getting lots of other girls on the side whenever I want it. But my point was that I know I could not stay satisfied with only one woman in monogamy, going to bed with her every single night. It wouldn't matter if she was a 19 year old Bridget Bardot. At a certain point I would become completely familiar with her and her body (her pussy and her tits) and at that point the relationship would hit the wall and begin to trend downward unless I could get away and find other women to satisfy my need for NEW.
[/QUOTE]I don't really understand the need for NEW but I do understand the need for Change or variety. The question for me would be how big a harem would need to be to make me completely happy. I think a 5 or 6 girl harem could be fine if includes a western girl or two, Asian, and a black beauty, and at least 1 girl with large natural knockers. To be fair I would allow the girls to get variety of men also.

As mongers, we tend to collect several regulars to form a harem, but most of the harem are P4 P girls.

On another topic, I think either partner gets bored less, if can reach orgasms easily. My GF is so sensitive she gets orgasms with no difficulty, so she could probably get them with a wide variety of guys, where girls difficult to cum may need to find the guy with the right techniques or willing to learn.

I don't know if girls like a wide variety of cock shapes and sizes. I know I don't like pussies to be too small nor too large. Best with even grip along length of cock and slide very easy for me. So prefer medium to large sized squeezing pussies, but not cavenous.

I really only have desire to try NEW girls if either desperate for sex and regulars not available, or if the NEW girl is super special looking. Tonight I nearly missed out fucking a girl altogether, as some of the options just did not look exciting enough, and the super stunner was not available.

Anyone ever bring their own tunes to the MPs? Will be my first time in BKK this coming February, I am putting together a few play-lists to enhance the vibe. Want to bring in my iPhone and Bose Soundlink II, bluetooth link. Do they allow this, as long as the volume isn't too intense? Seems like a very good idea.