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[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1577738]Been here for a week, was planning on staying in Angels for the entire month. Unless things change drastically for the better in the next couple of days I'm going to move on. Quantity down, quality down, attitudes down, services down, prices up.
Chris.[/QUOTE]If I was you, I would take a side trip to Subic. My last trip in March I did a week in AC and a week in Subic. Subic is more like the old AC. Send me a PM if you need any hotel or ride information.
Robb.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1578212]This has been my experience exactly, rejection is a daily occurrence and when one actually responds in a somewhat interested fashion I am truly surprised. I am thinking of going to a medical center and submitting myself for a medical study. I seem to have this strange ability to bring on menstruation in bar girls as soon as I mention bar fine they are suddenly on their period. I have never ran across so many girls who all seem to be having their period at the same time.
Chris[/QUOTE]This has long been a problem in angeles bars.
Because of the large slice in drinks commission the girls get for every drink that is bought for them the girls quickly worked out that they can earn more money staying in the bar and being a Drink **** than going out on barfines, plus her pinoy husband / boyfriend is a whole lot happier too, he still gets to stay home gamble / drink red horse and shag the young girls in the village while his sweetheart is out earning the peso and she's not full of strange semen each night she comes home.
[QUOTE=Mackin;1578232]I was just in Ac and there are flights from BKK to AC. I believe it might be under Tiger air or whoever bought them. Anyway the travel agent I talked to said they have flights. If you need tbhe travel agent send me a PM.[/QUOTE]From the Magarita Station website " We keep hearing how Clark is growing, but:
-- Air Asia cancelled all flights from Clark months ago.
-- Emirates recently cancelled their Clark service.
-- Now Cebu Pacific buys Tiger Air and then cancels the popular Clark. Bangkok route.
WHAT GROWTH WILL BE NEXT! ".
My suggestion would be that the typical business model here. In the Philippines is.
When business is SLOW and you don't have many customers.
RAISE the prices so that HOPEFULLY you make as much money as before but with fewer customers.
BUT. Sometimes you can even lose those customers. Oh well.
Munch (my 2 pisos).
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1578212]This has been my experience exactly, rejection is a daily occurrence and when one actually responds in a somewhat interested fashion I am truly surprised. I am thinking of going to a medical center and submitting myself for a medical study. I seem to have this strange ability to bring on menstruation in bar girls as soon as I mention bar fine they are suddenly on their period. I have never ran across so many girls who all seem to be having their period at the same time.
Chris[/QUOTE]As you mention, (sh) it happens.
I thought I fell in love the other night (at least temporarily) and the answer was the same " I have Mens".
I usually ask which day and how long. And suggest that I will be coming back after it is done. Which is OK if you have an extended stay or live here.
Sometimes you get rewarded and have an actual "date" with the SYT in the future if:
1. She is still working at the bar (how would that NOT be possible 4 to 7 days later. I have no idea, you would think that a job is a job but it maybe optional here in Angeles).
2. That was NOT just a ploy to tell you she was NOT interested (surprise, surprise. She is waiting for someone more qwapo / younger than you).
3. She was NOT expecting her new Korean bf to come in (she had a drink with him and is pretty sure that he is in love with her) or doesn't have one yet.
4. She has NO plans to get together with friends at High Society later.
5. She is NOT tired and needs her 12 to 14 hours sleep (. After she goes home at 4 AM).
6. It is NOT her day off the next day and laundry day at the Stay-Inn.
7. She does NOT have to go to Hygiene at 7 AM the next morning.
8. She is NOT having a second or third menstruation that month.
And. If all the moons and stars line up fortuitously.
You get her out of the bar the next time for a wonderful experience.
This is NOT just a fairy tale, it happens occasionally.
OR you move on to the next girl / bar and find someone else.
Munch.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1578212]This has been my experience exactly, rejection is a daily occurrence and when one actually responds in a somewhat interested fashion I am truly surprised. I am thinking of going to a medical center and submitting myself for a medical study. I seem to have this strange ability to bring on menstruation in bar girls as soon as I mention bar fine they are suddenly on their period. I have never ran across so many girls who all seem to be having their period at the same time.[/QUOTE]In Phil bars you don't choose the girl, she chooses you. Go for the ones giving good vibes / signals. Often they will ask YOU to take them. Going in with a meat market mentality picking only the most attractive to you regardless of other factors often results in tears. They don't have to go with you ha?
AV.
[QUOTE=CaptMunch;1578352]From the Magarita Station website " We keep hearing how Clark is growing, but:
-- Air Asia cancelled all flights from Clark months ago.
-- Emirates recently cancelled their Clark service.
-- Now Cebu Pacific buys Tiger Air and then cancels the popular Clark. Bangkok route.
WHAT GROWTH WILL BE NEXT! ".
My suggestion would be that the typical business model here. In the Philippines is.
When business is SLOW and you don't have many customers.
RAISE the prices so that HOPEFULLY you make as much money as before but with fewer customers.
BUT. Sometimes you can even lose those customers. Oh well.
Munch (my 2 pisos).[/QUOTE]Agree its concerning to see all these carriers dropping services here. One of the major bonus's of living here was proximity to the airport. Loosing Air Asia / Asia X was not a biggy for me but loosing Emirates was a bastard. To be fair SIA was haemorrhaging money with Tiger & the CP acquisition is probably more about buying their lucrative routes. The dropping of Clark by CP is not directly a reflection on Clark itself IMHO. BTW these rationalisations are happening all over the Asia Pacific. We've lost a lot of services back in Australia also.
AV.
[QUOTE=CaptMunch;1578364]As you mention, (sh) it happens.
I thought I fell in love the other night (at least temporarily) and the answer was the same " I have Mens".
I usually ask which day and how long. And suggest that I will be coming back after it is done. Which is OK if you have an extended stay or live here.
Sometimes you get rewarded and have an actual "date" with the SYT in the future if:
1. She is still working at the bar (how would that NOT be possible 4 to 7 days later. I have no idea, you would think that a job is a job but it maybe optional here in Angeles).
2. That was NOT just a ploy to tell you she was NOT interested (surprise, surprise. She is waiting for someone more qwapo / younger than you).
3. She was NOT expecting her new Korean bf to come in (she had a drink with him and is pretty sure that he is in love with her) or doesn't have one yet.
4. She has NO plans to get together with friends at High Society later.
5. She is NOT tired and needs her 12 to 14 hours sleep (. After she goes home at 4 AM).
6. It is NOT her day off the next day and laundry day at the Stay-Inn.
7. She does NOT have to go to Hygiene at 7 AM the next morning.
8. She is NOT having a second or third menstruation that month.
And. If all the moons and stars line up fortuitously.
You get her out of the bar the next time for a wonderful experience.
This is NOT just a fairy tale, it happens occasionally.
OR you move on to the next girl / bar and find someone else.
Munch.[/QUOTE]All of this unfortunately is very very true. So the question has to be asked, what is the point of coming to Angeles, it is very expensive and a very long flight from the states just to come here and be rejected by two to three out of every five girls you approach especially if you are rejected by the ones you want and have to settle for the be team. You can stay in the states and get that kind of rejection and save yourself a whole lot of money.
This is something that does not get enough attention here on the boards, the level of rejection that you receive from the girls in Angeles. In Sosua in the Dominican Republic you walk into Rumbas or the'Latin and you feel like Tom Cruz or Denzel Washington by the amount of attention you get and the way the girls throw themselves at you. I have never ever been rejected by a girl in the Dominican Republic I may not have been able to come to an agreement on price and services, which may be their way of rejecting you, but I have never had one just rudely ignore me or make me feel so bad about myself. There you are avoiding eye contact and pushing girls away. In Angeles your lucky if they even acknowledge your existence. In Angeles you feel like an ugly man by the amount of rejection you receive. I am seriously thinking of scratching Angeles off the rotation list.
Chris
[QUOTE=Amavida;1578404]In Phil bars you don't choose the girl, she chooses you. Go for the ones giving good vibes / signals. Often they will ask YOU to take them. Going in with a meat market mentality picking only the most attractive to you regardless of other factors often results in tears. They don't have to go with you ha?
AV[/QUOTE]The question has to be asked, what is the point of coming to Angeles? You can stay in the states and be ignored by the hottest girls in the bar and have to settle on the B or C team. You don't have to spend money and time to come to Angeles to receive that kind of treatment.
Chris
[QUOTE=NapaSlapper;1578348]This has long been a problem in angeles bars.
Because of the large slice in drinks commission the girls get for every drink that is bought for them the girls quickly worked out that they can earn more money staying in the bar and being a Drink **** than going out on barfines, plus her pinoy husband / boyfriend is a whole lot happier too, he still gets to stay home gamble / drink red horse and shag the young girls in the village while his sweetheart is out earning the peso and she's not full of strange semen each night she comes home.[/QUOTE]Maybe this was the case a long time ago back in the heydays but nowadays I think many girls are happy if they get 1 ladydrink at all (per night). I was in AC back in February and March and there were many many more girls in the bars than there were customers. I think the ratio was 20 to 1 or something like that. There's no way they can earn more money by staying in the bar.
Furthermore most of the girls don't have a pinoy husband / boyfriend. At least not anymore; they ran away when they knocked them up. And they certainly don't get back to their village every night all the way back in Samar, Negros, Mindanao or where ever they are from.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1578506]I was in AC back in February and March and there were many many more girls in the bars than there were customers. I think the ratio was 20 to 1 or something like that. There's no way they can earn more money by staying in the bar.
[/QUOTE]Still the same. Regularly is. Correct, they need bar fines to pay the rent, they are just selective about who gets to deposit his semen in them. After two only nights spent in two bars last week I've got girls lining up to come over on their day off. This is boy friend sex not P4 P sex.
AV.
I don't profess any intimate knowledge of Angeles or its bars; it's a scene that's got no real appeal for me, so I can't comment on whether there's a growing "rejection trend. However, I do know a little bit about the macro economy and the demographics of the country, both of which suggest that the population--particularly the ranks of the poor and uneducated--continues to swell, the schools continue to reflect mediocrity, and the economy's record of job creation is abysmal. I'm also relatively sure that the country remains at the bottom of ASEAN in its ability to attract foreign investment. These trends, which are not likely to change anytime soon, suggest that unemployment, especially for those with little education, will remain high, and with few alternatives available to meet the continued demands of their families for money, it seems logical to conclude that Angeles will continue to resent the employer of last resort for many young, provincial women. So I doubt that the supply side of the equation will be in jeopardy anytime soon.
I also note that the "rejection" issue appears indigenous to Angeles. At least I've not seen any posts that suggest the presence of the same issue in Manila or Cebu. If that's true, then we're left with the task of isolating what's different about Angeles than the other two destinations? This assumes of course that the male punters are more or less equivalent in character, dress and behavior across the three cities. The only meaningful discrepancy I can think of is that in Angeles, bars are being raided and girls are going to jail for varoius periods. So, if I'm correct, the whole "rejection" issue may be caused more by fear than chemistry. Perhaps the girls would rather settle for less income if that also means they can avoid other unpleasant consequences.
I noted several typos in my last post, caused either by my own in attentiveness or by the strange quirks in the forum's software. Recently I've found that I'm not able to go back and correct these. The software will not permit it. I've no idea why.
GE.
[QUOTE=ChrisLong;1578424]The question has to be asked, what is the point of coming to Angeles, you can stay in the states and be ignored by the hottest girls in the bar and have to settle on the be or see team you don't have to spend money and time to come to Angeles to receive that kind of treatment.
Chris[/QUOTE]I'd love to know what bars you are hitting. When I was there recently, I found the bars in walking street less enjoyable as the girls were less playful. Once I moved out, the girls seemed far more playful. It was harder to find good talent, but worth the hunt. Felt the same way about Subic as well.
[QUOTE=CaptMunch;1578352]
-- Now Cebu Pacific buys Tiger Air and then cancels the popular Clark. Bangkok route.[/QUOTE]According to the flight schedule on their web site they are still flying but only on Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays:
[URL]https://www.cebupacificair.com/Flight%20Schedule/DG%20Flight%20Schedule%20[/URL](04%2022%2014). Pdf.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1578582]According to the flight schedule on their web site they are still flying but only on Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays:
[URL]https://www.cebupacificair.com/Flight%20Schedule/DG%20Flight%20Schedule%20[/URL](04%2022%2014). Pdf.[/QUOTE]My flight was on the 7th of June (which is a Monday) and it got the cancellation email yesterday. So I think this might be outdated or wrong. The most frustrating thing was waiting for about 15 minutes to get the reservation cancelled. They do something and ask to hold on for 5 minutes and then to another thing and again ask to hold on, this happened about three times, which was frustrating. I cancelled my trip altogether and decided to spend those days in Pattaya as well.