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My criticism of Sharks would not be so much the physical appearance of the girls but more the mercenary attitude. Too much upselling. However, there are yet a few more girls I would like to session with before moving on to another club. A criticism I have which I have not seen much mention of but observe is the number of customers; frankly, some of the days I have attended were somewhat of a sausage fest.
Thursday - 6/15.
Arrived into FRA and picked up the rental car and go to the club at 7:30 pm. Paid my 65 euro got my slippers and robe and in I went. The weather was certainly hot and I didn't realize it was a German public holiday but attributing to a low number of men in the club and many providers around with not a lot to do. The line was good and I ended up having a room with Jennifer, very girl next door dyed blonde with dark roots and says she is half Russian and half Romanian. She struck up a conversation with me at the bar and I felt a good vibe and decided that I hadn't had a blonde in a while. So. Off we go. She was was fun in the room but I don't think I would repeat.
Friday - 6/16.
Decided to make a day of it and got there just before 12 noon. The day was starting off hotter than the day before. The line up was pretty slim at the open but it improved in numbers as the day went on. Again, sitting at the bar I was approached by Sharde (Sharday) a dyed redhead Romanian. Got a good vibe and decided to have a room with her. She was good in the room and gave a pretty good back massage too. I had dinner afterwards and I saw Ada who I first had a room with at Finca a year ago. Ada has been mentioned previously on this board as possibly being cold and not really approachable but for me she is just my spec. Thin, model like and to me, we really clicked. I had a great hour in the room with her. By the way, she has a near look-alike in the club who is Diana and I had made the mistake of thinking Diana was her. More on that in the following Thursday visit.
Thursday - 6/22.
Wash and repeat but about one week later. I arrive at the club around 1 pm. It's overcast, hot and humid. I spent time in the garden catching up on my reading. I decided to go back into the club around 2 pm and see what is going on. The line up was pretty light in numbers and in looks but I see who I think is Ada and walk over to her and say Hi. It's Diana and I should have noticed as she has the white shoes and Ada has the silver shoes. This was told to me by Ada the week before as to how to tell them apart. I chat with Diana for a bit but the chemistry is not there. Her looks definitely work for me since she is physically Ada but with bigger tits and slightly shorter hair. Anyways, I decide to continue to look around and this girl waves me over. She looks somewhat familiar and she introduces herself. Low and behold it is Ester (Esther). I had a room with her a year ago but it looks like she has added a little weight and her hair is less blonde. I decide that she would be the first for the day and went with her to the room. In short, she wanted to get it over with as soon as possible and it was. 50 euros and done. She really didn't want to have much / any foreplay. Right to BJ and sex. I thought I would have a good time as I did last year with her but alas, not. Perhaps she was having a bad day or week and later Ada, who is Ester's friend said that she was not in a good mood. Oh well. We all have our days. Finally, Ada came to the club and I had a nice long room with her. Same as I did when I was last at Finca with her. I spent 2. 5 hours in the room with her. She is just the best and I had a great time with her.
Well, my summer trip is now over. I did get the sense from my three visits that for Sharks things seem slow and the energy and vibe of the club has decreased from my previous visits. But, taken in light of the weather and low number of men in the club and the girls not being in the best of moods because they aren't making money is a recipe for a downward spiral at least for my visits. BBBJ was still offered as part of the service and I didn't encounter any providers asking for extra for it. But I digress as this has been discussed in depth on this and other FKK threads already. As for the line up, well, for me there is enough to choose from and certainly the large number of girls insures that there are some that met my spec, pass the chemistry test (which fails me at times) and I have a good experience for the most part. There were light improvements going on as it appeared they were building an enclosed sauna area to the left of the exit to the garden area. I think what they really should do is invest in air conditioning for the rooms as it make things a bit more comfortable. With the upcoming changes in the condom law I wonder if this will reduces the number of visitors more.
Till the next time. Happy wellness seeking!
Well put TankTank. Thursdays are a terrible day at Sharks. And although I know some girls are taking vacations these days since I was there 2 weeks ago, I doubt the lineup has completely died of in this short amount of time. Optically for me Sharks 2 weeks ago seemed to be about equal to how it was 2-3 years ago. I remember the first 2-3 times I was at Sharks at the end of 2014 and early 15. I was not at all impressed. Actually I considerred never returning. The lineup looked so bad and terrible optically. But after some more visits awhile later I noticed the main problem of Sharks lies in how infrequent the top girls are present at the club. And it took awhile for me to notice them. And thursdays are perhaps the 2nd worst day of the week at Sharks. Maybe only 2nd to tuesdays (although I have never attended on a Tuesday I believe).
But I did see perhaps slightly more people at Oase and perhaps slightly less at Sharks. So the competition between the two is reversing a bit after over a year when Sharks had the majority of customers it seemed like to me... perhaps people also wants a bit more diversity as alot of locals have perhaps been favoring sharks too much...
[QUOTE=Turgid;2051440]My criticism of Sharks would not be so much the physical appearance of the girls but more the mercenary attitude. Too much upselling. [/QUOTE]This I totally agree with. Upselling has been rising rapidly over the past 2 years. But so far, at least in my experience, they have not resorted to a nasty reaction like the Oase girls when I say no.
A unique approach taken by Amalia and gang here is to state preemptively before the interview could even get going that kissing is excluded in a 50 euro session. 3 of them had already done so with me in the past. On each of those occasions I tried to argue with the girl before walking off.
In my most recent visit, immediately after the exchange of pleasantries, Stefani (whom I did not know whether or not is part of the Amalia gang as that was the first time I saw her) said immediately "no kissing for 30 minutes room". I replied "no kissing no room" and walked off immediately. She chased after me and said "OK, kissing for 30 minutes". And we did have a good session, that I finally did extend to 1 hour at the 25-minute mark.
It took me stupidly until this trip to remember that immediately walking away without first attempting to bargain is often the best way to make the sellers of wares capitulate.
PFI. As I said, you are a very honest writer and pen very helpful comments and reports. I didn't mean to come down harshly on you personally. If I did or appeared that way, my apologies. And constructive criticism is always the most important feedback one can receive, and no one (least of all, the club) wants a situation of "emperor has no clothes" until it becomes obvious to everyone. So, thanks for your very valid points.
TT, I don't like to deal with that. She coming running back and says ok for 30. I'm not going to run around like a desperate guy looking for 30 min room for whoever. Only girls I'm concered are ones I'm attracted. If they are the ones I'm running into 1hr minimum proposals for fuller service, It makes for a disappointing visit, others I could care less.
When the girl proposes that I lose interest fast. Who know how much she downgrades her service. I don't like the idea of that goes on in clubs. That is the precisely the reason I avoided Palace when it was the main club for that.
[QUOTE=TankTank123;2051472]This I totally agree with. Upselling has been rising rapidly over the past 2 years. But so far, at least in my experience, they have not resorted to a nasty reaction like the Oase girls when I say no.
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It took me stupidly until this trip to remember that immediately walking away without first attempting to bargain is often the best way to make the sellers of wares capitulate.[/QUOTE]Good advice moving forward with new law coming. I always break negotiations. You can always return to bargaining table at a later time.
Never had a WG "capitulate" immediately. Usually it is a subsequent visit.
Many predicted it would be an uptick in customers in the weeks leading to July 1st. I haven't noticed a difference. Actually, business seemed slow on my last three visits to Sharks. Only heard it was busy on the Wednesday before public holiday.
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Many predicted it would be an uptick in customers in the weeks leading to July 1st. I haven't noticed a difference. Actually, business seemed slow on my last three visits to Sharks. Only heard it was busy on the Wednesday before public holiday.[/QUOTE]Indeed at the Hessen clubs is low business the last time (one effect Ramadan), there isn't no last chance BBBJ rally. We must wait if additional P6 business move from street walkers, apartments, escorts or RLD to FKK club scene otherwise I doubt that all German FKK clubs can survive in the future.
[QUOTE=PussyLiccker;2051492]TT, I don't like to deal with that. She coming running back and says ok for 30. I'm not going to run around like a desperate guy looking for 30 min room for whoever. Only girls I'm concered are ones I'm attracted. If they are the ones I'm running into 1hr minimum proposals for fuller service, It makes for a disappointing visit, others I could care less.
When the girl proposes that I lose interest fast. Who know how much she downgrades her service.[/QUOTE]I would agree with what you wrote. However this was exceptional as I was very attracted to Stefani. And she said "no kissing in 30 minute room" quite perfunctorily, as if reading out a mandatory statement in case she gets blacklisted by the trade union. Furthermore when she said OK, it was with a pleading look rather than a reluctant look, which made me conclude instantly that she was going to make our session work.
[QUOTE=Craiova;2051504]Indeed at the Hessen clubs is low business the last time (one effect Ramadan), there isn't no last chance BBBJ rally. We must wait if additional P6 business move from street walkers, apartments, escorts or RLD to FKK club scene otherwise I doubt that all German FKK clubs can survive in the future.[/QUOTE]For sure, Turkish make work Sharks and World nights since 2015. Same for Atlanta Hanau and quite same at Mainhattan and Palace. Another world at VIP GT where no Ramadan effect.
[QUOTE=Turgid;2051440]My criticism of Sharks would not be so much the physical appearance of the girls but more the mercenary attitude. Too much upselling. [/QUOTE]I asked more than 10 girls last night in Sharks what the attitude to the new law will be. Several smiled a lot. It is very clear that BBBJ will still be on offer but as an extra. I asked how much and the standard response was an extra 50 e as they are taking a risk. Wow!
One girl, Adina, explained to me that she will no longer give BBBJ whether for more money or not. She said a lot of police do come into the club to check things out and if a girl offers BBBJ in future she is likely to be prosecuted. I argued that I didn't think offering a BBBJ was an offence. Just giving one. She said she wouldn't risk it! Sensible perhaps.
In the short term at least, I think lovers of BBBJ will find it costly. One great tip a girl wrote on another thread and another member told me about is to ask the girl to hold a condom in one hand whilst BBBJ with the other hand on your manhood. If the room door opened the girl stops to explain she is about to put the condom on with her mouth. Doesn't get round the police issue but would get around most other risks.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2051544] an extra 50 e as they are taking a risk. Wow!
She said a lot of police do come into the club to check things out and if a girl offers BBBJ in future she is likely to be prosecuted. [/QUOTE]BBBJ is no risk (besides the health risk) for the girl. There are no fines for the girls and no prosecution. Maybe you should carry a piece of paper with the relevant passages from the law in German, English, Romanian and Bulgarian with you.
HB.
[QUOTE=PayForIt;2051544]In the short term at least, I think lovers of BBBJ will find it costly. One great tip a girl wrote on another thread and another member told me about is to ask the girl to hold a condom in one hand whilst BBBJ with the other hand on your manhood. If the room door opened the girl stops to explain she is about to put the condom on with her mouth. Doesn't get round the police issue but would get around most other risks.[/QUOTE]Maybe HB could kindly explain whether entering the private room without knocking is legal in Germany or not. I would assume not.
I am not a 100% sure but from my perspective the authorities are not allowed to enter the rooms without knocking. And probably they are not allowed to enter before you say "come in".
This is what you find in the press around checking the mandatory use of a condom:
"Die Kondompflicht lässt sich praktisch nicht überwachen.
Mitarbeiterinnen des Ordnungs- oder Gesundheitsamtes müssten sich als Sexarbeiterin ausgeben, um die Freier zu kontrollieren. Dies wäre aus logistischen und ethischen Gründen nicht umsetzbar.
Ob solche Anzeigen zu Bußgeldverfahren führen, ist jedoch unklar. Denn meist handelt es sich um intime Situationen ohne Zeugen. ".
"It is virtually impossible to monitor the constraint.
Employees of the authorities would have to spend as a sex worker to control the suitors. This would not be feasible for logistical and ethical reasons.
Whether such indications lead to fines proceedings, however, is unclear. For the most part they are intimate situations without witnesses. ".
HB.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2051575]I am not a 100% sure but from my perspective the authorities are not allowed to enter the rooms without knocking. And probably they are not allowed to enter before you say "come in".
HB.[/QUOTE]Thank for update HB.
This is what I figured. I don't see any possibilities for authorities to control that new law. Except the officers that play roles of the customers or working girls, which doesn't look realistic either. I would assume it will take a few weeks until both visitors and WG realize that.