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[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2356914]I've been reading all the FKK forums for a few weeks now in preparation for my first trip and have a few questions on terms not heard before in other countries. Would appreciate knowing what google could not help with.

Is zimmer used as both a noun and a verb when talking with a girl? What is most normal usage to say let's go!

What are the polite and proper words to ask if BBBJ is included?

What is P6 or to what does it refer?

Occasionally I see the word religion or religious used to describe a girl. This one really has me scratching my head.

Thanks for any clarifications.[/QUOTE]Zimmer as noun is for room, to zimmern as verb means to fuck. You can say: let's go to room (Zimmer) or please search for us a nice room. Many ways to say it, it's up to you, be polite and everything should be fine.

Asking for BBBJ is illegal, therefore I don't ask girls for that. I am really no expert for illegal things but maybe you can ask if a blow job without condom is included in the standard rate. And ask for the standard rate.

P6 or pay sex stands for all sexual activities for money.

I heard that the religion of a girl refers to her way in using condoms for sex. If the girl is catholic that mean she provides full service bareback sex without condom. But this is strictly illegal in Germany now and you won't find girls offering this and of course never ask for this because this makes most girl upset and you can get trouble in club.

Have fun with your first FKK club trip.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2356925]I heard that the religion of a girl refers to her way in using condoms for sex. If the girl is catholic that mean she provides full service bareback sex without condom. But this is strictly illegal in Germany now and you won't find girls offering this and of course never ask for this because this makes most girl upset and you can get trouble in club.[/QUOTE]Can you say "The Philippines"? If this is what you want, then that is where you go.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2356925]Zimmer as noun is for room, to zimmern as verb means to fuck. You can say: let's go to room (Zimmer) or please search for us a nice room. Many ways to say it, it's up to you, be polite and everything should be fine.

Asking for BBBJ is illegal, therefore I don't ask girls for that. I am really no expert for illegal things but maybe you can ask if a blow job without condom is included in the standard rate. And ask for the standard rate.

P6 or pay sex stands for all sexual activities for money.

I heard that the religion of a girl refers to her way in using condoms for sex. If the girl is catholic that mean she provides full service bareback sex without condom. But this is strictly illegal in Germany now and you won't find girls offering this and of course never ask for this because this makes most girl upset and you can get trouble in club.

Have fun with your first FKK club trip.[/QUOTE]Despite new law, who can say natural BJ is not anymore standard? Some NRW staff even told girls they don t want complaints, and what about AO RTC still opened. Not much changed after law, mostly registration and taxes.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2356914]I've been reading all the FKK forums for a few weeks now in preparation for my first trip and have a few questions on terms not heard before in other countries. Would appreciate knowing what google could not help with.

Is zimmer used as both a noun and a verb when talking with a girl? What is most normal usage to say let's go!

What are the polite and proper words to ask if BBBJ is included?

What is P6 or to what does it refer?

Occasionally I see the word religion or religious used to describe a girl. This one really has me scratching my head.

Thanks for any clarifications.[/QUOTE]It does not matter how you express your desire to go to a room to fuck; you can use sign language if you want. The girl will get it and will be happy to take you to the room.

Yes, BBBJ is illegal as other gent said but when in doubt, ASK! Much better to ask and confirm than go to the room, spend 50 or 100 as the case may be and face disappointment and frustration. Of course, you can ask your question in other ways too: for example, "do you normally provide your blow job with or without condom in a 50 session? Such a question does not indicate what you want or requested, and is a perfectly legal question. But for the most part this is moot. Almost 100% of the girls will provide BBBJ, it is just that some do it at normal 50 E price and some want a higher price.

As already explained, Catholicism is a euphemism for penetration without condom. I don't know why this should be the purview of Catholics because I went to mainstream Protestant denomination churches when growing up in the US (now, I simply don't go to church at all) and I like AO sex just as much as any catholic, LOL. However, be very careful if seeking AO sex in big FKK clubs, you may be reported to the front desk. I have indulged in AO sex with my regular girls in the US but never in FKKs.

[QUOTE=Craiova;2356925]I heard that the religion of a girl refers to her way in using condoms for sex. If the girl is catholic that mean she provides full service bareback sex without condom. [/QUOTE]I admit I don't read 100% of the posts, but I have never read of a woman being referred to as catholic. When the July 2017 law came into effect, some Bears didn't want to openly write about participating in illegal services, and so they referred to BBBJ as a Catholic BJ, referring to the traditional Catholic practice of not using contraceptives.

[QUOTE=Craiova;235692] ... I heard that the religion of a girl refers to her way in using condoms for sex. If the girl is catholic that mean she provides full service bareback sex without condom. But this is strictly illegal in Germany now and you won't find girls offering this and of course never ask for this because this makes most girl upset and you can get trouble in club.
... [/QUOTE]This overstates the current situation. BBBJ is frequently available, and the worst thing that might happen if you ask is the girl will say no. BBFS (also known as Alles Ohne or AO) can also be found depending on the place. Some places (such as the RTC clubs) specialize in bareback full service.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2357325] ... As already explained, Catholicism is a euphemism for penetration without condom. I don't know why this should be the purview of Catholics because I went to mainstream Protestant denomination churches when growing up in the US (now, I simply don't go to church at all) and I like AO sex just as much as any catholic, LOL. ...l[/QUOTE]It's said because the Catholic Church has traditionally banned birth control including condoms. It's a bit of a joke because the Church also, of course, and prostitution.

[QUOTE=Neurosynth;2357412]This overstates the current situation. BBBJ is frequently available, and the worst thing that might happen if you ask is the girl will say no. BBFS (also known as Alles Ohne or AO) can also be found depending on the place. Some places (such as the RTC clubs) specialize in bareback full service.[/QUOTE]Ups and how about the club police raid (razzia) in NRW at least more than once at Living Room or Babylon after Juli 1st, 2017 where female german Ordnungsamt officers enters the rooms in these clubs without announcement or knocking, said "condom control" and checked the dick if wearing a condom during oral or varginal / anal sex. And they get some guys without condom and these guys get a fine. Sounds for me slightly different than your worst case that a girl said "no".

One thing is not to write too much about BBBJ on the forum, and which girls does it. Since it is illegal, I don't think this is the way to do it. And it is detrimental to many things.

But ask girls in person! That is a completely different thing. I really wonder what the heck Craiova is on when he tells you not to ask a girl since it is illegal. People ask for all sorts of things no matter how illegal it is. Drugs is just one thing. And I don't think they have a hidden microphone in their nipple piercing!

Then again, if I was a loverboy, I wouldn't want my girlfriend to do BBBJ's also. So this is one way of finding out if they have overly defensive loverboys or not.

[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2356914]
Is zimmer used as both a noun and a verb when talking with a girl? What is most normal usage to say let's go!
What are the polite and proper words to ask if BBBJ is included?
What is P6 or to what does it refer?
Thanks for any clarifications.[/QUOTE]I see many people have answered most of these questions, but my 'first time' experience posted on Coliseum FKK might give you a blow by blow take on the questions and how to ask for what you want. I did not find any girls who preferred German over English at that location.

There is probably no standard answer to your question about BBBJ. It may have been in a post by Pfieke who mentioned you get a different pricing structure on "options" if you are asking a girl for an hour vs 30 minutes. (Likely at 30, everything beyond a couple positions is upcharge unless you are a regular.) One lady I asked what was included in her hour session, replied everything is fine, including deep french without but coming on body is 50 euros, extra.

Still more likely is that you get a different answer on a slow Wednesday versus a peak Saturday night at a larger club around 9 pm? Finally, one tip I've seen in many forums, if you wait to get into the room, you often get asked to pay extra. If it's important to you ask before going upstairs.

So.

I was thinking about the FKK world after a recent trip.

One woman who I'the been with about a decade ago was still in the game at Oase, still relatively attractive, but is no longer the skinny catwalk type that I first met her as. She's filled out, and unsurprisingly appears less popular.

I noticed her purse was not new — it was quite obviously old because there was a distinct wear pattern at the opening, evidence of dirt and oils from her reaching into it for years. Her iPhone screen was cracked. I felt a little bad for her, this is no country for old (er) women.

Maybe she has a drug problem and needed to keep the dollars coming in.

On the other hand, at Sharks, I noticed a new towel girl was an old WG. Based on some of the front desk clerks and assorted staff dress, I had always assumed some of them were ex-WGs.

Anyone know the story of some of these WGs that become house workers? Why do they choose to do what they do? Are they paid better than most service workers given that they used to earn a lot as WGs, and money flows in the FKKs, and there may be a stigma to working in an FKK?

I wondered if my old associate at Oase would wind up as a service worker if she's not doing as much business anymore. She's still young in relative terms, but on the old side for an FKK. Maybe she's still earning well, and doesn't care to keep up the phone or the purse.

Been out of the game for a long while. What's the low down on BBBJ at oase and sharks / palace?

Also what is the goto club these days for the hottest babes?

Have not had time to RTFF.

Moira was doing the bar duties a while ago. She used to be one of the best at Sharks. She still looked better than half the girls at Sharks when she donned shorts and a T shirt to mix drinks.

Speaking of economy, I wonder how our Brit friends are feeling these days. Pound Sterling is fast approaching parity with Euro. In 2015, it fetched them 1.4 Euros per Pound. I bet a few of them are making fewer visits to the clubs and taking minimal extras.

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2357499]I was thinking about the FKK world after a recent trip.

One woman who I'the been with about a decade ago was still in the game at Oase, still relatively attractive, but is no longer the skinny catwalk type that I first met her as. She's filled out, and unsurprisingly appears less popular.

I noticed her purse was not new it was quite obviously old because there was a distinct wear pattern at the opening, evidence of dirt and oils from her reaching into it for years. Her iPhone screen was cracked. I felt a little bad for her, this is no country for old (er) women.

Maybe she has a drug problem and needed to keep the dollars coming in.

On the other hand, at Sharks, I noticed a new towel girl was an old WG. Based on some of the front desk clerks and assorted staff dress, I had always assumed some of them were ex-WGs..[/QUOTE]PIMPS run their economy, most girls has pimps. They work as introducer to FKK business as well as they position themselves girls protector and also as a mental support in hard job called prostitution.

It is hard mentality to understand, but hey, if all of these girls are not nut and crazy, we aint fucking, so I got no complain LOL!

[QUOTE=Jmioffe;2357499]I was thinking about the FKK world after a recent trip.

One woman who I'the been with about a decade ago was still in the game at Oase, still relatively attractive, but is no longer the skinny catwalk type that I first met her as. She's filled out, and unsurprisingly appears less popular.

I noticed her purse was not new it was quite obviously old because there was a distinct wear pattern at the opening, evidence of dirt and oils from her reaching into it for years. Her iPhone screen was cracked. I felt a little bad for her, this is no country for old (er) women.

Maybe she has a drug problem and needed to keep the dollars coming in.

On the other hand, at Sharks, I noticed a new towel girl was an old WG. Based on some of the front desk clerks and assorted staff dress, I had always assumed some of them were ex-WGs.

Anyone know the story of some of these WGs that become house workers? Why do they choose to do what they do? Are they paid better than most service workers given that they used to earn a lot as WGs, and money flows in the FKKs, and there may be a stigma to working in an FKK?

I wondered if my old associate at Oase would wind up as a service worker if she's not doing as much business anymore. She's still young in relative terms, but on the old side for an FKK. Maybe she's still earning well, and doesn't care to keep up the phone or the purse.[/QUOTE]Can't answer your question, but.

Have you seen the current Oase evening manager lady? The young slim super beautiful one? She's probably the most beautiful girl among all girls (including both WGs and non-WGs) in combined Oase and Sharks currently! Wish she is available for sessions! I was almost tempted to ask one night LOL. Anyone knows her name or some details? I'm curious, I should have asked her then. 😁