Pattaya Reports

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568050]I barfined a girl from a gogo for LT, even bought her dinner, wasn't rushing anything. We get done with the session and she's putting on her clothes, says she wants to go back and make some more drinks, says she'll come back to spend the night and never called either my cell or the hotel. What's the best option? What's normally done when something like this happens? Write it off or try to get another girl free of a barfine?[/QUOTE]The bar won't care: you paid the barfine, you got the girl. That is all the bar has promised to to.

You can go back to the bar and ask the girl why she didn't come back. All of a sudden she will not understand English anymore, deny you ever agreed LT or invent some emergency that stopped her from calling you or reaching your hotel.

So you better write it off and tell the forum which bar and which girl pulled a stunt like that so we can avoid her and she will suffer in her wallet.

One question: did you pay the girl up front?

[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1568055]The bar won't care: you paid the barfine, you got the girl. That is all the bar has promised to to.

You can go back to the bar and ask the girl why she didn't come back. All of a sudden she will not understand English anymore, deny you ever agreed LT or invent some emergency that stopped her from calling you or reaching your hotel.

So you better write it off and tell the forum which bar and which girl pulled a stunt like that so we can avoid her and she will suffer in her wallet.

One question: did you pay the girl up front?[/QUOTE]The bare was sensations in Pattaya, the girl was number 68. When you barfine a girl there (and at Farenheit) you pay the total amount (unlike the bars I barfined in Bangkok). Maybe its a Pattaya thing, paying the entire thing upfront. Last time I ever do that. They ask for the entire amount again, I'll give them the barfine and say the girl will get the rest when she leaves.

I was in Sensations in April. I thought the line up was very impressive. Barfine is 1500 bt before midnight and 1000 bt after midnight. My girl wanted 2000 bt on top of that for ST. I payed the barfine and the drink tab before we left the bar as per usual in all Go Go's and I payed the girl separately after sex. By the way, my girl was great and I think Sensations is currently one of the best Go Go's on walking Street.

The only Go Go I know of on Walking Street that requires full upfront payment is Supergirls. And they ease up on that policy once they get to know you.

I barfined all of the girls I took back to my hotel in Bangkok, paid the bar their share and they told me what I had to pay the girl at the hotel. Never paid it all in advance. And in Pattaya the talent is spread all over, I've barfined from the beer bar down the road and only paid their 200 baht barfine, then the rest to the girl. I've actually had pretty good success, 2 for 2 picking up the girls on walking street. Then on soi 6 I've always paid the girl afterwards after paying for the short time hotel.

So I haven't really done much barfining from the gogo's in Pattaya. So the question is it normal in Pattaya that gogo bars ask for all the money upfront? There's several girls at Baracca's that draw my interest, when I inquired about the barfine they showed me the "list" which shows 700 barfine, 2500 shorttime to the girl and a total underlined. Didn't ask if it was to be paid upfront or not since I wasn't planning on it at the time. I've only barfined from Farenheit and now Sensations, both asked for everything up front.

Can I ask for advice on what to do to make sure I get the best service from a gogo dancer? Should I be explicit telling her what I want in the session and in asking what service she will perform at the bar before I barfine? I prefer a bbbj, should I come out and ask the girl before barfining if she will perform a bbbj? What are my options if I barfine a girl and she doesn't perform? What are my options, send her packing without any money? What have others done in similiar circumstances?

I've only come across this at a couple of the afternoon gogos in the Soi 13's where you pay, go upstairs on the premises and then then afterwards go back down into the bar and order another drink. It's not a problem there as you know how long you're getting and you're not going anywhere.

In instances where I've taken one or more girls back to my hotel, I've always paid afterwards and I don't think I'd take the risk of paying up front and then have the girl do a runner.

All ends well in the end, the girl showed up this morning for a booty call. A friend was in an accident and she couldn't make it, least that was the story. Sounded legit, she looked to have been up all night long.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568085]I barfined all of the girls I took back to my hotel in Bangkok, paid the bar their share and they told me what I had to pay the girl at the hotel. Never paid it all in advance. And in Pattaya the talent is spread all over, I've barfined from the beer bar down the road and only paid their 200 baht barfine, then the rest to the girl. I've actually had pretty good success, 2 for 2 picking up the girls on walking street. Then on soi 6 I've always paid the girl afterwards after paying for the short time hotel.

So I haven't really done much barfining from the gogo's in Pattaya. So the question is it normal in Pattaya that gogo bars ask for all the money upfront? There's several girls at Baracca's that draw my interest, when I inquired about the barfine they showed me the "list" which shows 700 barfine, 2500 shorttime to the girl and a total underlined. Didn't ask if it was to be paid upfront or not since I wasn't planning on it at the time. I've only barfined from Farenheit and now Sensations, both asked for everything up front.

Can I ask for advice on what to do to make sure I get the best service from a gogo dancer? Should I be explicit telling her what I want in the session and in asking what service she will perform at the bar before I barfine? I prefer a bbbj, should I come out and ask the girl before barfining if she will perform a bbbj? What are my options if I barfine a girl and she doesn't perform? What are my options, send her packing without any money? What have others done in similiar circumstances?[/QUOTE]Breadman,

Getting girls at gogo bars are good and bad. The good this is you can see her body ahead of time. You pay the bar fine and do not tip the girl till after if you want good service. Too many guys have tipped the girls before service and now more and more are asking for tip first. That way they are in charge and will rush you. Gogo girls are usually the worst they are usually the hottest looking and have guys kissing their ass all the time they get this princess mentality. If she demands money upfront find someone else.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568077]The bare was sensations in Pattaya, the girl was number 68. When you barfine a girl there (and at Farenheit) you pay the total amount (unlike the bars I barfined in Bangkok). Maybe its a Pattaya thing, paying the entire thing upfront. Last time I ever do that. They ask for the entire amount again, I'll give them the barfine and say the girl will get the rest when she leaves.[/QUOTE]Ah, I never visited Sensations. They seem to operate on a different business model. Cannot say I like it much. Forewarned is forearmed! Thank you.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568085]Can I ask for advice on what to do to make sure I get the best service from a gogo dancer? Should I be explicit telling her what I want in the session and in asking what service she will perform at the bar before I barfine? I prefer a bbbj, should I come out and ask the girl before barfining if she will perform a bbbj? What are my options if I barfine a girl and she doesn't perform? What are my options, send her packing without any money? What have others done in similiar circumstances?[/QUOTE]As I usually take a girl from an agogo club or bar, I always have an "interview" with the girl before I pay her barfine. I try to do it as part of a normal chat. First develop some rapport with the girl; maybe do some light petting (more in an agogo, less in an open beerbar), ask her if she likes to kiss (and perhaps put her to the test if she says she does), does she always use condoms, does she like someone playing with her pussy, what about licking her pussy, does she "smoke", ...? Of course we both know we are likely to end up both naked in the same room and I will explore the depths of her pussy with my fingers, tongue and dick, but that doesn't mean we cannot be somewhat civilized about it when asking for her limits.

In case she renegs on the deal when in the room, I'd give her some taximoney and send her packing, always with a smile of course. But that has never happened to me. Maybe I am just lucky, have good karma or I am such an irresistible stud (you choose).

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568156]All ends well in the end, the girl showed up this morning for a booty call. A friend was in an accident and she couldn't make it, least that was the story. Sounded legit, she looked to have been up all night long.[/QUOTE]Bless you, you are a good person and obviously the karmic laws favour you. Other guys in the same circumstances would have said "She came by this morning to do a quick shag, clearly tired from being up and fucking the whole night some other guy who paid her more and telling me some bullshit story about a friend having an accident".

[QUOTE=Breadman;1567837]Hit the gogo's last night, walked in at 8:15 to baccara and got a comfy soafa seat right next to the stage, the next 3 hours just flew by, tons of hot talent parading across the stage. Love the see thru second floor where the girls don't wear panties. At one point some guy dumped a hundred pingpong balls upstairs and threw fists full of 20 baht bills in the air. Those girls upstairs all sat down at once to try and grab anything and all you could see was pussy lips and legs.[/QUOTE]A buddy of mine said he saw the same thing last night at the same time you reported it. He said it was a group of what appeared to be Asian American guys from some kind of organization. He said they all had the same t-shirts with something printed on them. They came in with boxes of baht. 20's, 50's, and 100's and were throwing them all over. They already had some girls who worked there barfined. The girls came into the club with the guys.

In Baccara right now and the same thing is going on. Ping pong balls and money flying all over the place here upstairs. A guy just took two fists full of cash and went downstairs to do the same thing.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1568230]A buddy of mine said he saw the same thing last night at the same time you reported it. He said it was a group of what appeared to be Asian American guys from some kind of organization. He said they all had the same t-shirts with something printed on them. They came in with boxes of baht. 20's, 50's, and 100's and were throwing them all over. They already had some girls who worked there barfined. The girls came into the club with the guys.[/QUOTE]In Las Vegas we're seeing the same thing more and more. A group of friends will fly in and have t-shirts printed with some silly saying on them, and proceed to have a wild drunken weekend where they all do some crazy shit just like you described. My nephew and his friends are in the midst of planning a trip exactly as described. I often see groups of girls do the same thing...they all wear silly t-shirts, cheap tiaras, and funky sunglasses to have a weekend to remember before the big wedding day. I think the Hangover movies helped promote all this craziness...but it's fun to watch (in small doses).

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568085]I barfined all of the girls I took back to my hotel in Bangkok, paid the bar their share and they told me what I had to pay the girl at the hotel. Never paid it all in advance. And in Pattaya the talent is spread all over, I've barfined from the beer bar down the road and only paid their 200 baht barfine, then the rest to the girl. I've actually had pretty good success, 2 for 2 picking up the girls on walking street. Then on soi 6 I've always paid the girl afterwards after paying for the short time hotel.

So I haven't really done much barfining from the gogo's in Pattaya. So the question is it normal in Pattaya that gogo bars ask for all the money upfront? There's several girls at Baracca's that draw my interest, when I inquired about the barfine they showed me the "list" which shows 700 barfine, 2500 shorttime to the girl and a total underlined. Didn't ask if it was to be paid upfront or not since I wasn't planning on it at the time. I've only barfined from Farenheit and now Sensations, both asked for everything up front.

Can I ask for advice on what to do to make sure I get the best service from a gogo dancer? Should I be explicit telling her what I want in the session and in asking what service she will perform at the bar before I barfine? I prefer a bbbj, should I come out and ask the girl before barfining if she will perform a bbbj? What are my options if I barfine a girl and she doesn't perform? What are my options, send her packing without any money? What have others done in similiar circumstances?[/QUOTE]Breadman,

If you refuse to pay a Thai hooker even if she gives shit service. What she most likely will do is call the police. The police will come and take you to the police station ext. All for $30 USD. What ever you do. Do not get a thai girl upset. I have seen it and it is scary. In the USA she call her pimp. In Thailand it is is the police. Either way she is getting her money.

[QUOTE=Breadman;1568085]Can I ask for advice on what to do to make sure I get the best service from a gogo dancer? Should I be explicit telling her what I want in the session and in asking what service she will perform at the bar before I barfine? I prefer a bbbj, should I come out and ask the girl before barfining if she will perform a bbbj? What are my options if I barfine a girl and she doesn't perform? What are my options, send her packing without any money? What have others done in similiar circumstances?[/QUOTE]There are no guarantees in this business. Generally, your best bet is to talk to a girl for a while and see if you get along well and have decent chemistry (isn't that the whole point of lady drinks? Before agreeing to a barfine, perhaps make a *slightly* out-of-ordinary request (one of my favorites is to ask if I can finish 2 times in an ST session), and see how she reacts. If she's apprehensive and tries to negotiate it away, drop her like a hot potato. Negotiating the price up is ok, negotiating service down is always unacceptable.

I don't think a detailed point-by-point checklist of standard sex acts (BBBJ of minimum 3 minutes duration, take off the bra, FS in mish / doggy / cowboy positions) would get you far... Such a list would just kill the vibe, would never be complete. Ultimately, the girl can provide you with a crappy session even if she ticks all the boxes on that list. However, do ask in advance if you have special request like anal.

If a girl doesn't perform, and you detect flakiness, you do have an option of cancelling the session, preferably at the earliest possible point. Generally, if there was no intercourse you don't need to pay the full price (much as she may pout), but must *always* give her some money (perhaps 200-500 baht), no matter if the fault was all hers. Unhappy as she may be, accepting that money and leaving closes the transaction -- if you don't pay her at all, you can rightfully expect major problems and need to look behind your back for a while.

The trouble is when you figure out a flake a too late, she already took a shower, got naked and played with your member... Then the situation gets a more difficult. If you had any sort of intercourse (including a BJ), no matter how briefly, then you pretty much owe her the amount you agreed on, as long as she's not explicitly refusing to continue.