American Politics

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2919175]SC, how can I be sarcastic and keep it real at the same time? Yeah, of course, Americans living abroad should not have to pay taxes as they do not pay American taxes, but you have to understand guys like Spidy and Tooms vote to use government to steal money from guys like you and me because they are too cheap to pay for their own hookers.[/QUOTE]Nobody's policies and srewardship stole more money from America and never gave it back in your lifetime than Repub George W. Bush and Repub Donald J. Trump. Lives, jobs, stock market investments, housing values, retirement funds, inflation theft, you name it. All gone and never coming back.

I didn't vote for either one of them.

Did you?

[QUOTE=TheCane;2919022][B]Gang[/B]! I told you, told you, told you, told you, told you! I said be patient! Time to pay the piper! And folks? We're just getting started with this threat to American democracy! Mark my words![/QUOTE]You told us what? Obviously, you do not see this for what it is. Here is the 6th amendment: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defense.

If you think this criminal case was constitutional, I want some of what you are smoking. The case was designed to be overturned. It was theater, election manipulation. Biden wanted to be able to call Trump a convicted felon and now he can. That is ALL this was about.

The Secret Service is authorized to use force to protect an ex-president so unless they can be satisfied, and they won't be with anything but a jail with only Trump in it, so you can forget about jail.

Besides the sixth amendment, the judge's instructions went against a prior Supreme Court ruling, so the federal courts can step in any time they want. If Trump is released on bail pending appeal, then they probably will do nothing. If his movements are restricted, that is begging the feds to step in and they probably will and can rule the case unconstitutional and toss the verdict.

Because you Democratic douches are so intoxicated with Trump derangement syndrome, you do not see now that Republican prosecutors can step in, run on criminalizing their opponents, file some bogus charges where they do not even define what law their political opponent has broken, and get a conviction. In fact, if you are a Republican, you would almost be bound to do this.

In reality, this won't happen. The courts will overturn this decision. It will take time. It always does with the legal system but it will happen. That was how this case was designed.

But again, you douches never learn. I cannot tell you how many comments I have read from people who did not even like Trump saying "I did not like Trump but I am voting for him because I do not like what Biden is doing to him. " You guys go off on the twice impeached, 91 counts ETC ETC against Trump and do not get he is rising in the polls. To over half the country now, you have made the words "convicted felon" meaningless. It makes us wonder how many other "felons" have been convicted by lying witnesses.

And wait until the gag order comes off. OMG. Trump is going to turn this conviction into comedy gold. The first thing I would do if I were Trump is bring up someone from New York who has been robbed or had a love one murdered and Bragg let the criminal off. He is going to have fun with what hypocrites you all are with this "rule of law" nonsense.

You douches did the unthinkable with an ex-president billionaire. You made him into a victim.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2919106]Well, a fool and his money.[/QUOTE]Oh I see. In your perverted view of the world, you think everyone agrees with you.

[URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-rakes-35-million-fundraising-haul-after-guilty-verdict[/URL]

"From just minutes after the sham trial verdict was announced, our digital fundraising system was overwhelmed with support, and despite temporary delays online because of the amount of traffic, President Trump raised $34.8 million dollars from small dollar donors," said Trump Campaign Senior Advisors Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles.

Trump later updated the figure to $39 million during a Friday press conference.

"Not only was the amount historic, but 29.7% of yesterday's donor's were brand new donors to the WinRed platform," they continued. "President Trump and our campaign are immensely grateful from this outpouring of support from patriots across our country. President Trump is fighting to save our nation and November 5th is the day Americans will deliver the real verdict. ".

According to the pair, the fundraising total broke the campaign's previous record for small-dollar donations in a day. Of which 30% donated through the WinRed platform, which is used by Republican candidates for fundraising.

[QUOTE=TheCane;2919022][B]Gang[/B]! I told you, told you, told you, told you, told you! I said be patient! Time to pay the piper! And folks? We're just getting started with this threat to American democracy! Mark my words![/QUOTE]I am sorry, Cane. Did you say Trump was going to rake in $39 million less than 24 hours after a guilty verdict? I must have missed that one. It looks like the piper is not getting paid but fucked up the ass.

Xpartan, the fact that you think it was just me that donated to Trump means YOU are the fool.

I said it before, and I will say it again. This guilty verdict, which you Democratic douches wanted so badly, ensures a Trump victory.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2919039]After this [b]rigged verdict[/b], I don't think anyone is going to believe that any more. Rules are so lax in California they probably will have more votes than voters. [/QUOTE]

"Rigged", "rigged", "rigged" ...in your own words Elvis 2008, [b][i]"...is that the best you got!"[/i][/b] (...kkkk!), If you haven't gotten the QAnon\MAGA memo by now, [i]"...everything in Trumpland, QAnon and MAGA world is RIGGED!" [/i]

This is what happens when you're FINALLY held to account and held responsible for your criminal actions. [u][b]White collar crime[/b] DO NOT get a pass[/u], because you're some billionaire the CEO of a major crypto company or billionaire CEO of the highest office U.S.A.

Well, I guess the upside is that, dear ol' Trump will finally get an opportunity to really bond and identify more with this black supporters! (...kkkk!)

And to round out the convict ex-Pres. pussy-grabber's journey into the [i]"black experience"[/i], the polls suggest, the best way to accomplish that feat, is with [b]some bling.[/b] Yes, perhaps in the form of matching commemorative [i][b]Trump gold chains, handcuffs[/b][/i] and/or matching [b][i]gold GPS ankle bracelets.[/b][/i] I hear, these are the some of the most envied accoutrements, worn by some of Trump fav rappers on trial, in the criminal justice system. (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2919039]Oh, you mean you believe the polls that show the one favorable demographic for Biden? LOL. God, you are such a douche. [/QUOTE] (...kkkk!) That sounds like sore loser talk! Come on man, don't be a sore loser!

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2919039]Bragg brought his case in a Democratic stronghold which voted overwhelmingly for Biden in 2020 (87% Biden to 12% Trump). Bring this case upstate and you might get a different result. The jurors walked into the courthouse with biases against President Trump (so powerful were these prejudices that some prospective jurors lied to try to get selected), and their own political preferences were certainly considered when reaching their verdict. It's human nature. And they followed those biases all the way through to the verdict, ignoring Michael Cohen's perjury his outright lies in court and buying the story from the State that a non-disclosure agreement is a criminal act.

In the show trials, at least the judges tried to hide their bias.[/QUOTE] Remember Justice is Blind...right? Much like our greatly venerated SCOTUS?

You, Elvis 2008, are just hilarious! You want to hold everyday hardworking American jurors up to some higher standard of moral justice, biases and prejudices, but when it comes to our highest court that is sworn to uphold our nations laws and blindly and unbiasedly dispatch said laws...you, Elvis 2008, are okay with and vehemently support, a corrupt, right-wing bribed, morally bias, politically bias, upside-down American flag & Appeal to Heaven flag flying 2/3 conservative slanted SCOTUS.

If anything you're certainly consistent in your hypocrisy.

Yeah, and if SCOTUS wasn't 2/3 conservative, ROE v WADE would still be the law of the land and Trump would have already been in jail for the J6 insurrection. I distinctly remember you, Elvis 2008, telling me the same thing, just last week w/r to SCOTUS. Funny what a difference a week makes! (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2919039]So come back with your Trump is a felon bullshit. Truth is I went on today to donate money to Trump or rather to protest that American voters and not some rigged jury pool and partisan hack judge decide an election, and all his websites have had so much traffic today I cannot get the page to load.

Then I saw this "A GOP source told me that WinRed, the Republican donation platform, is overwhelmed at the moment. " Yeah, no shit.

Yeah, nothing says saving Democracy like jailing your opponent over paperwork.

Yes, by all means, rule of law reigns. Well sort of. Now come the lectures on how justice really works. [/QUOTE]

Well Elvis 2008, since your having trouble donating more of your dollars to the [i]"Trump-two-fisted hand pumping from side-to-side, [b]jerking-off two dicks simultaneously[/b] election deniers"[/i] fund, may I suggest, the Rudy [i][b]"drip"[/b][/i] Coffee fund? I hear you get a commemorative [i]Guiliani "drip" poster[/i] and coffee mug set. (...kkkk!)

And while you're considering the next Repub Reich grifter's pockets to enrich, may I also suggest, from your list of Repub grifters, you think about who has the cojones, to consider doing what is right for the benefit of the party winning in 2024, now that citizen Trump is now [b]convict Trump[/b]:
[LIST]Now that Trump has been convicted, where are Repubs on having a convicted felon and criminal as their leader?[/LIST][LIST]Repubs can still remove Trump as their elected leader...but will they, come July 15-18, 2024?[/LIST][LIST]Will Repubs step-up and do the right thing and remove the criminal Trump from their ranks?[/LIST][LIST]Will the Repub sycophants resume their subservient position, ON THEIR KNEES, bowing and grovelling to the orange throne, once more? Or take the opportunity to rid themselves of the "Orange Menace"?[/LIST]Since it's plainly obvious that the WOMEN's VOTE is the "Achilles Heel" for Repubs, I think Repubs should re-instate Nikki Haley, as the Repubs best chances of winning. Yes?

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2919039]Like I said if there is a guilty verdict, Trump wins in a landslide to save Democracy. This is no longer about Trump. It is about standing up against a rigged system designed to steal power from voters.[/QUOTE]Once again, it sounds like you got your wishes. A GUILTY verdict to ensure the result for a pussy-grabber's "landslide". [b]So why all whining?[/b]

[B]Dow closes more than 570 points higher to post best day in 2024, stocks wrap a winning May.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/05/30/stock-market-today-live-updates.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

Not only did the US Stock Market love those 34 Trump felony convictions, but I have seen no meaningful change even in the demonstrably Winger-leaning RealClearPolitics' No Toss Up Electoral College States Map showing Biden only needing to close and surmount a mere 0. 1, 0. 5. , 2. 3 point, statistical tie difference between him and Trump on their Average polls in the only three Battleground states Biden needs to clinch the required 270 EC Votes to continue his leadership as one of the greatest Presidents in history, WI. , MI. , PA.

[URL]https://www.realclearpolling.com/elections/president/2024/battleground-states[/URL]

Which, of course, would be easy to do today with Biden's dramatic advantage on ground game tools already set up in those states while Trump has almost nothing.

It is very, very likely that Joe Biden would win the election if it were held today. Been that way for many weeks really. Well before Biden slaughters Trump in any debate that Trump can't find a basement Men's Room toilet to hide from and will only go full Captain Queeg in response to any question on a presidential level topic in any fair setting.

You know, the reason his lawyers in every civil or criminal trial practically tackles him to the floor to prevent him from testifying under Oath about anything as simple as what day it is, is this a photo of your wife, when did WWII happen, did you run against Barack Obama or George W. Bush in a previous election, was the Air Force involved in the Revolutionary War and so on.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2919175]SC, how can I be sarcastic and keep it real at the same time? Yeah, of course, Americans living abroad should not have to pay taxes as they do not pay American taxes, but you have to understand guys like Spidy and Tooms vote to use government to steal money from guys like you and me because they are too cheap to pay for their own hookers.[/QUOTE]You killing me brother. ROTFLAO! All humor is based in truth. Otherwise it wouldn't be funny. I get your point. It is not the taxes so much. I get the advantages of the blue passport and the USD. I don't like to pay taxes but it is what it is. After I learn about money my biggest question has been: "If USGOV can just print more of it out of thin air why do the need my money?" LOL!

I think we should decide who gets elected in the ballot box not the courtroom. I think the pursuit of Trump in the court system shows the decline of the (Dis) United States of America. Makes the place no different from other countries that USGOV is often critical. I vote my own personal self interests. So I am a one issue voter this election cycle: Crypto. Although I also happen to believe crypto current is and will continue to be a critical part of the economy in the USA. It should not be feared by USGOV but embraced. Peer to Peer transactions cannot be stopped. Crypto is as basic as the old trading post of the gold rush days. Just in a new digital form.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2919255]Oh I see. In your perverted view of the world, you think everyone agrees with you.[/QUOTE]What? Why?

All I'm saying is this:

- 12 jurors found your idol guilty on every single count.

- there is no way some of these jurors aren't republicans and even trumpists.

- and yet, they agreed on the guilty verdict [B]on the second day of deliberation[/B] -- forced to agree -- because the prosecution proved their case beyond reasonable doubt.

- which means (and I'm deeply sorry to have to say this to you) that everyone who honestly believes in "rigged", are not exactly the sharpest tools in the box.

I hope you've managed to get through and send your money successfully.

Today I got 3, count 'them, 3 emails from the self-described multi-billionaire who will never ask anyone for money, begging me to give him money or "We will lose our country"!

Lolol. Uh. No, I am not such a pathetic sucker that I'm going to give money to The Worst (former) President in History so he can identify, embrace and exacerbate another Repub "Once in 100 Years Disaster" that will again and again and again wipe out millions of jobs, crash the economy, shut down businesses and skyrocket inflation on the desperate but necessary recovery.

Enough already. Never. Nobody is that good a conman, certainly not ridiculous Donald J. Trump. You've got to be kidding me. LOL.

In reality, this won't happen. The courts will overturn this decision. It will take time. It always does with the legal system but it will happen. That was how this case was designed.

Yes it was designed by Trumpel - delay delay. There is only 1 Way against Gangsters like Tump - Putin / Kim can explain you!

Trump is going to turn this conviction into comedy gold.

You forget that not all Americans are crazy MAGA. There are at least 53% against this Criminal.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2919255]I am sorry, Cane. Did you say Trump was going to rake in $39 million less than 24 hours after a guilty verdict? I must have missed that one. It looks like the piper is not getting paid but fucked up the ass.[/QUOTE]To pay his legal bills LOL! And he better hope his lawyers do a better job the next time lest he too end up on Rikers Island getting fucked in the ass like his boy Weisselberg! LMAO!

[QUOTE=Spidy;2919268]Once again, it sounds like you got your wishes. A GUILTY verdict to ensure the result for a pussy-grabber's "landslide". So why all whining?[/QUOTE]Spidy, your primary focus in life is having a government stealing money from hard working people to send to you so you can fuck women. That is not me. I work and pay my own way. I also see that the government you so love can turn against you.

On the Republican side, we were prepped for this verdict. It was not a shock. It was sadness. Our brains knew this verdicts were going this way. Our hearts and emotions wanted to believe though that this travesty of justice would not happen.

As a monger, you must be living in a bubble. You must not meet any crazy women. So in this case when a woman says she had consensual sex with you one time, then signs a statement saying she did not, and then says you raped her, we should believe you raped. And the fact that she has a verdict against you for $500,000 and admits on the stand she is never going to pay it does not constitute reasonable doubt.

I had to listen to this nonsense from Tooms about how he is a law abiding citizen. He is so delusional he wants a fellow monger to believe he was only seeing hookers in countries where it was legal. Ha! And now with you, Soy Boy, you are in the imaginary bubble where the police love you and would never charge you and all the hookers are sane. Well, I think by now, we all know how delusional you two are.

Soy boy, a tool like you said we should believe all women even porn actresses. So which version of events from Stormy Daniels are we supposed to believe?

This Reuters / Ipsos poll taken after Trump's 34 felony convictions were announced shows Biden ahead of Trump among 2135 Registered Voters in the Head-to-Head and when they added Kennedy:

[B]Majority believe prosecution of Donald Trump upheld rule of law, not motivated by politics.
About one in ten Republicans say they will not vote for Trump with a felony conviction.
May 31, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/majority-believe-prosecution-donald-trump-upheld-rule-law-not-motivated-politics[/URL]

[QUOTE]The latest survey from Reuters/Ipsos, which began fielding following the announcement of a guilty verdict in the New York criminal trial against Donald Trump regarding hush money payments, shows that a majority of Americans believe the prosecution was about upholding the rule of law and not politically motivated. Donald Trump and Joe Biden remain locked in a close race for the 2024 presidential election. Following the conviction, a small, but not insignificant number, of Republicans say they will not vote for Trump with a felony conviction. One in five Americans say the recently concluded trial of Donald Trump has positively impacted their view of the American criminal justice system, while a quarter say it has negatively impacted their perceptions.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2919241] You douches did the unthinkable with an ex-president billionaire. You made him into a victim.[/QUOTE]

"Victim?"...perhaps! But perhaps, not in the way you imagine.

According to the Roy Cohn "mob boss playbook", Trump has posthumously entered the "victim" phase, as noted in the [b]"Bully. Coward. Victim." biography[/b] of the infamous bad man and notoriously corrupt gangster lawyer and once mentor to Trump, only servers to remind us, that the hubris of bad men, is just a temporary artful dodge, on the unbreakable path, to their eventual and inevitable demise.

[b]Bully. Coward. Victim: The Story of Roy Cohn | Why Now Is The Time To Talk About Roy Cohn | HBO[/b] 6-min video convos w/r to the Story of RC as it relates to DJT.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD9ufYUseHU[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYpZreBOyrQ[/URL]
[LIST] Trump the Bully[/LIST][LIST] Trump the Coward[/LIST][LIST] And now, Trump the "Victim"?[/LIST]
Dutifully and unwittingly, said Elvis 2008, as you've highlighted, the next phase of the Trump spiraling downfall, as he follows in his mentor's footsteps, into "VICTIM", which is right on cue and right out of the Roy Cohn playbook.

As to [b]what version of "victim"[/b], comes next for Trump, maybe "poetic" for some, and yet for others may seen it as "poetic justice".

[QUOTE=Spidy;2919553]"Victim?"...perhaps! But perhaps, not in the way you imagine.

According to the Roy Cohn "mob boss playbook", Trump has posthumously entered the "victim" phase, as noted in the [b]"Bully. Coward. Victim." biography[/b] of the infamous bad man and notoriously corrupt gangster lawyer and once mentor to Trump, only servers to remind us, that the hubris of bad men, is just a temporary artful dodge, on the unbreakable path, to their eventual and inevitable demise.

[b]Bully. Coward. Victim: The Story of Roy Cohn | Why Now Is The Time To Talk About Roy Cohn | HBO[/b] 6-min video convos w/r to the Story of RC as it relates to DJT.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD9ufYUseHU[/URL]
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYpZreBOyrQ[/URL]
[LIST] Trump the Bully[/LIST][LIST] Trump the Coward[/LIST][LIST] And now, Trump the "Victim"?[/LIST]
Dutifully and unwittingly, said Elvis 2008, as you've highlighted, the next phase of the Trump spiraling downfall, as he follows in his mentor's footsteps, into "VICTIM", which is right on cue and right out of the Roy Cohn playbook.

As to [b]what version of "victim"[/b], comes next for Trump, maybe "poetic" for some, and yet for others may seen it as "poetic justice".[/QUOTE]The problem with Trump and every other Repub is not really whatever persona they project. The problem is their favorite and repeated policy and stewardship results are total crap. And that being the case, there will always be America-hating Repub voters salivating at the opportunity to vote for them, a Mainstream Media only too happy to work "Bothsiderism" and their self-serving disastrius headline needs to support and steer them to that end.

If Elvis was not blaming Dems for "forcing" poor baby Repubs to race to their beloved Worst President in History Trump to put him back in office to produce more Worst Results in History by turning him into a victim after his 34 Felony Convictions he would be blaming Dems for turning him into a winner if he had been acquitted. LOL. And turning him into a revisionist history acceptably ok potus for allowing him to get away with whatever 2016 election fraud he wanted if he hadn't been indicted, tried and convicted of his 34 Felonies in that regard.

Convicted, acquitted or ignore the Rule of Law and leave him blissfully unindicted, this current Repub fever to put him back in office to produce more Worst President in History results and their blaming Dems for it would be no different.

There is no way to prevent America-hating Repub voters from racing to vote for the next Repub / Trump's Pandemic, Great Depression, Great Recession, Massive Job Destruction, Multiple Bear Market Declines, Inevitable Dem Recovery Inflation and on and on and blaming Dems for "forcing" those poor babies to do it no matter who the Repub is, Hoover, Nixon, Reagan, the Bushes, Trump, convicted, acquitted or ignore their crimes altogether, it doesn't matter.

Hmm, if an ordinary citizen was worried about election integrity, what could they do? They could volunteer to work as an election judge. Like I do.