Whether polizei come in or not the girls will all use the new law to their advantage and charge 50 euro extra for BBBJ. 8 more days and we will all find out.
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Whether polizei come in or not the girls will all use the new law to their advantage and charge 50 euro extra for BBBJ. 8 more days and we will all find out.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2051598]Whether polizei come in or not the girls will all use the new law to their advantage and charge 50 euro extra for BBBJ. 8 more days and we will all find out.[/QUOTE]If the girls are not stupid they will not charge 50 euros but just refuse to do it. At the end it will change what?
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2051598]Whether polizei come in or not the girls will all use the new law to their advantage and charge 50 euro extra for BBBJ. 8 more days and we will all find out.[/QUOTE]In this way I hope the girls will loses a lot of customer.
[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2051598]Whether polizei come in or not the girls will all use the new law to their advantage and charge 50 euro extra for BBBJ. 8 more days and we will all find out.[/QUOTE]I think next Friday will be the last day for the 50 euro rooms.
It's interesting that most of us seem to be concerned only with price hikes for BBBJ and if girls will charge extra for it. Almost no one is talking about getting caught and potentially incurring hefty fines and outed / embarrassed. That could change. As HB reminded us many times, we are just speculating here and we have to see how this unfolds; but a few high profile and well publicized arrests and fines can change mens' minds quickly. Will it happen? May be it will not, but but then again may be it will. Only time will tell. I can't imagine that Germany will put this law on their books, and the only change that happens is that girls make an extra 50 bucks per blow job.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2051585]Thank for update HB.
This is what I figured. I don't see any possibilities for authorities to control that new law. Except the officers that play roles of the customers or working girls, which doesn't look realistic either. I would assume it will take a few weeks until both visitors and WG realize that.[/QUOTE]Why you all are willing to turn around the new law, it will be forbidden that is all and it is enough. Will be still available in many other countries like Austria, etc. , the girls who will still offer it will be blacklisted and fired from the clubs it is at least what I heard this week.
[QUOTE=Jnpr30;2051634]It's interesting that most of us seem to be concerned only with price hikes for BBBJ and if girls will charge extra for it. Almost no one is talking about getting caught and potentially incurring hefty fines and outed / embarrassed. That could change. As HB reminded us many times, we are just speculating here and we have to see how this unfolds; but a few high profile and well publicized arrests and fines can change mens' minds quickly. Will it happen? May be it will not, but but then again may be it will. Only time will tell. I can't imagine that Germany will put this law on their books, and the only change that happens is that girls make an extra 50 bucks per blow job.[/QUOTE]Many times I gave my opinion, I believe it will be more or less unavailable in many clubs, even you are ready to pay for it. The girls are not stupid and they will be very happy to follow strictly the new law to protect themselves.
We're not concerned about the 50k fine because it may never happen. Also, many of us are assessing whether Germany is even a consideration for future mongering trips. I'm personally taking a break until November to see where the chips land.
Personally I refuse to pay 50 euro for room + 50 euro for DFK + 50 euro for BBBJ. Add on a 70 euro entry fee and you're at 220 euro average if you only find 1 girl, 185 euro average for 2 girls, 173 euro average for 3 girls, etc.
Hopefully NRW pricing structure still sticks and for 30 minutes it's 50 euro with standard DFK inclusive + 25 euro BBBJ + 60 euro or less entry (GT price).
Compare this to say Montreal, Canada where you can get a pretty decent looking 18-20 year old escort for 135 euro per HOUR. Toronto, Canada prices just slightly higher. 30 minutes is 80 to 107 euro per half hour. DFK and BBBJ is standard at any reputable agency. Service is better than standard Romanians. Girls are almost all friendly and not sharky. Closer to the USA for those from there so cheaper airfare. Only downfall is no face pics but girls now have Twitter and you can get a pretty good sense on their faces from some of the videos they post. Even if you bat 50% on hot faces you're still ahead.
[QUOTE=Jymondor;2051585] Except the officers that play roles of the customers or working girls,.[/QUOTE]Why should they play the role of the customers? And I don't see any officer playing a WG and risking that she "has to do" CBJ and covered full sex when the guy complies with the law.
HB.
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Personally I refuse to pay 50 euro for room + 50 euro for DFK + 50 euro for BBBJ. Add on a 70 euro entry fee and you're at 220 euro average if you only find 1 girl, 185 euro average for 2 girls, 173 euro average for 3 girls, etc.
Hopefully NRW pricing structure still sticks and for 30 minutes it's 50 euro with standard DFK inclusive + 25 euro BBBJ + 60 euro or less entry (GT price).
[/QUOTE]I refuse to pay 50 e for BBBJ as well. If the gal is rly hot then maybe I will pay 25 e for it. Most likely gals will give it for free if you repeat.
Dunno if there are enough tourists that will pay 50 e for BBBJ and 50 e for DFK. Can't imagine locals doing that on a regular basis bc they are use to getting everything for 50 e, LOL.
[QUOTE=Exodus8;2051653]I refuse to pay 50 e for BBBJ as well. If the gal is rly hot then maybe I will pay 25 e for it. Most likely gals will give it for free if you repeat.
Dunno if there are enough tourists that will pay 50 e for BBBJ and 50 e for DFK. Can't imagine locals doing that on a regular basis bc they are use to getting everything for 50 e, LOL.[/QUOTE]If basic 1/2 HR with BBBJ will cost 100 Euros + entry fee this will make me visiting Germany less. Standard 1 HR session with reputable Escort Agency in Toronto is $250 CAD / HR. Which is about 170 EURO. This includes DFK, BBBJCIM, DIGITS, MSOG, DATY. Some girl include anal some charge $50 Extra for anal. I like FKK concept more than escort. However I am trying to spend money wisely.
I guess most of girls will keep charging 50 Euros for CIM. This will include BBBJ by default.
The 50 euro extra charge for BBBJ sounds like something that some of the girls will try to foist on the tourist-tourists (infrequent tourists / newbies). Many girls will be satisfied with giving BBBJ in a 1 hour room (sort of like DFK for many girls now).
If I know a girl already, I would have no problem committing to an hour with her. It's the girls who I've never been with that I am extremely reluctant to make any time commitment with. I would certainly refuse to pay any straight up 50 Euro charge just for BBBJ. That's ridiculous. If girls try this, I will just continue on to the next girl until I find one who is more agreeable. And if I run out of girls who meet my spec at a given club, then I will simply move on to the next club.
In any case, I'm not anticipating 50 Euro extra charges. I am expecting no more than requests for 1 hour commitments (like for DFK now with some girls).
The fact is that there simply isn't enough business right now in the clubs to support girls insisting on 50 Euro extra for BBBJ. And their business will indeed become more dire after July 1st as many guys will be taking a wait-and-see approach.
As it stands, the girls aren't making as many rooms as they'd like, even on supposed busy nights like Friday and Saturday nights. If any of you are paying 50 Euros extra for BBBJ in July, you're letting the girls play you for a chump. Seriously.
I mean, you don't have to spend that long in the club, observing the girls to see how long it takes for each of them to coax a room out of all of the guys in the entire club (on average I mean). I mean, just look at the Oase key board at any given moment in the night and how many girls are in the club and you'll instantly know how many girls are in the room versus walking around in the club. Yes, they are making some rooms on busy nights, but nowhere near as many as they'd like. Everyone should remember this simple fact. You have the upper-hand in negotiations in any FKK at the moment.
[QUOTE=UltraHappy;2051685]The 50 euro extra charge for BBBJ sounds like something that some of the girls will try to foist on the tourist-tourists (infrequent tourists / newbies). Many girls will be satisfied with giving BBBJ in a 1 hour room (sort of like DFK for many girls now).
If I know a girl already, I would have no problem committing to an hour with her. It's the girls who I've never been with that I am extremely reluctant to make any time commitment with. I would certainly refuse to pay any straight up 50 Euro charge just for BBBJ. That's ridiculous. If girls try this, I will just continue on to the next girl until I find one who is more agreeable. And if I run out of girls who meet my spec at a given club, then I will simply move on to the next club.
In any case, I'm not anticipating 50 Euro extra charges. I am expecting no more than requests for 1 hour commitments (like for DFK now with some girls).
The fact is that there simply isn't enough business right now in the clubs to support girls insisting on 50 Euro extra for BBBJ. And their business will indeed become more dire after July 1st as many guys will be taking a wait-and-see approach.
As it stands, the girls aren't making as many rooms as they'd like, even on supposed busy nights like Friday and Saturday nights. If any of you are paying 50 Euros extra for BBBJ in July, you're letting the girls play you for a chump. Seriously.
I mean, you don't have to spend that long in the club, observing the girls to see how long it takes for each of them to coax a room out of all of the guys in the entire club (on average I mean). I mean, just look at the Oase key board at any given moment in the night and how many girls are in the club and you'll instantly know how many girls are in the room versus walking around in the club. Yes, they are making some rooms on busy nights, but nowhere near as many as they'd like. Everyone should remember this simple fact. You have the upper-hand in negotiations in any FKK at the moment.[/QUOTE]Just you forget to mention that it will be illegal, that most of the girls are very happy not to have to give BBBJ anymore and that some club managers already inform the girls that if they still give it they will be immediately fired. When I see the average age of the mongers including me, I think we just have to respect the new law.
[QUOTE=HessenBub;2051560]BBBJ is no risk (besides the health risk) for the girl. There are no fines for the girls and no prosecution. Maybe you should carry a piece of paper with the relevant passages from the law in German, English, Romanian and Bulgarian with you.
HB.[/QUOTE]Yes, even not understanding German despite spending nearly half of the year on autobahns, I thought about BBBJ or AO, girls wouldn't be prosecuted but only clients. Law is to protect girls about their health, also not being anymore rent rooms where they are fucked for job. I think Law consider girls as victims about some risks about some kind of sex, or where they pay to live and sleep.
Also, girls already working before 1st July, would have until 1st January to be registered? Not before.
So BBBJ or AO sex can t be anymore standard services asked by clients, but if an independent girl is in love with you, she can decide to provide for You.
2 best Russian escorts agencies closed in Paris, so long life to FKK land, even after 1st July end of standard BBBJ world.
Wish for more Russian or Ukrainian girls coming to visit and work in Germany, but I love my so lovely Romanian beauties, even not at Sharks at the moment.
New FKK world to come.
[QUOTE=Sirioja;2051380]I wrote so many times Sharks was my best casting in Germany, higher than VIP GT, in 2015 until last Summer, but I can't write anymore, even maybe the largest casting, but I prefer only 1 Megan sister.
PFI, if I found a Paulina but with light make up, no silicon, no Botox, duck lips, with passionate behavior like yours, she would make my day and night, taking her in wood chalet, elephant room and mirror room, for different games to enjoy.[/QUOTE]Who are the new: Andrea. Bu who was claiming to be Ukrainian, from Sofia. Liz ex World. Reddish hair Carla. Ro. Karolina. Pol, real woman Agnes. Pol, Aurelia and model Megan now at Globe, Hessen and Globe top class superstar Alice / Kate / Katalina, Karin claiming to come from Valencia, Rena. Ro, blond Jessi. De not the one at Aca and GT, very GFE behavior Ilka, now at Sharks?
What become eyes and brain dreams? To think at first sight: I want her, everybody can say she is not good in room, I don't care, I want to play with her.