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Astroboy51,
However, CanCan please tell me more about the place in Flushing. I am currently on assignment in NYC and Flushing is but a stone's throw away and I have seen a lot of real cuties walking around there. While I don't mean to doubt you, I find your claim hard to believe since from all I have seen including asian-only places they run in the $120-160 range. I have heard of some very nice korean amps in LA, so not sure why you say it's so bad. Of course, from all I am told even from the best looking kgirls here that the girls in korea (not to mention everything else in the world) is 10x better in Seoul. But you've piqued my interest so please corroborate if you will.
U misunderstood me on the comment i made on "$70 for 80 min of paradise... that's just an awesome deal."
It was meant to tell Byung about how good deal that Changan Dong Turkey Bath he visited. There is no chance in hell you will find $70 place in U.S and specially not a service lasting that long. The korean place I visited in Flushing back in year 2000 was called "susuki" and it was located near the freeway that goes to La Guardia. I paid $180 for 40 min service (sauna, massage, full service). I don't remember the name of the girl i got serviced but I do remember the one girl my friend saw. her name was nikki and had an awsome rack and the voluptious body of a latina. My friend had such a good time that he came back the next day.
Unfortunately I heard from him last year that the place disappeared though.
Regarding the L.A Kamp. I had some good and bad experiences. There are some hot girls to be had but most of them are korean girls from the outer provinces (different korean accent, different way of talking) that doesn't quite attract me much. I prefer the city girls that are living in Seoul. Korea has definitely better looking girls than in L.A thanks to the plastic surgeons LOL.
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The Jang An Dong shops are even more picky than 588. Sounds funny but I went with a Chinese friend and White friend, I'm Korean. I did not tell the guys that the place was a brothel in disguise. I thought I would surprise them. So I tell them we should go for a haircut so that if we go out that night we look respectable. We walked into the first place we saw and we weren't given any hassles initially. I told them that we're from the US, no problems. So after everything is done we all met up upstairs out front. Apparently, my Chinese friend and I got serviced, no problems, no complaints. As for my white friend, he got a real haircut, no joke, he said some guy came over to him, sat him down in a barber chair, massaged him with one of those massage wands around his neck and back while he was sitting. He then proceded to give him a haircut and finished him off with a shampoo in the head basin. It was an adventure and a big laugh for a long time. He only got charged 20K for the haircut, expensive but at least they didn't charge him the same as us. I went back in to complain and they told me they don't take foreigners, white, black, etc. We ended up visiting 3 more in the other blocks and all refused service to foreigners.
If you are not Korean or Asian and had success there, please post a response here.
Mook
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I used to be a weekly regular at Yongsan RLD but kind of stopped because the girls I liked were too heavily trafficked. Often my favorites would be busy and when I finished with them they would run outside and wait for customers already while I was still dressing although they are always nice to me. One rule I didn't like was I couldn't have any girls in the same shop that they worked in. I guess when you pick the A Row cuties, they're busy. I can pass for Korean but my English is a lot better than my Korean. I took a couple of Japanese friends to 588 and they were popular since it's obvious the girls didn't mind the Japanese. But they don't like Caucasians especially since they're supposed to avoid them and they don't want hassles from other Koreans. It amazes me to find so many RLDs in Korea. I have been to about 7 of them. Nowadays I mainly go to the massage places and sports massages and maybe get an outcall. I have picked up girlfriends from the massage places but they're kind of unreliable after awhile. My favorites are still the sports massages although they're sort of expensive. I think I have been to about 20 of them throughout Korea over the last several years.
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I went to a twin barbershop up in a northern suburb of Seoul. The woman was a solid 6 in face and body. She looked late 20s. Using minimun Korean skills and some international sign language I indicated I was looking for a HJ. She quoted 60K. I'm a white guy and there didn't seem to be any problem with that, even though I was up in an area where they might not get many foreigners.
It was your typical BBS experience. Led to a room and given a foot washing. Following a quick shoulder massage she pulled down the standard issues shorts and began to work my member. I stopped her and tried to indicate I'd like her naked. She would only let me get her topless and feel her boobs. She didn't seem to want me to suck her tits.
After some manipulation I stopped her again and tried more international sign language indicating I'd like her to use her mouth.
"Mouth?" she asked.
Neh.
She started to go to town with her mouth. It wasn't a half bad BJ, although I've had GFs (one white, one Indian) that have better oral skills.
She started some fake moaning but it was enough to make me blow my load. I filled her mouth with cum. She started to gag and quickly spit it out in a floor drain.
And then I was on my way.
Nothing to write home about but this was my first paid sex experience in Korea and I got over that fear.
I'm also trying to work the "language exchange" gambit with a couple thirty something married ajummas. It's not gotten much beyond actual language exchange. If anyone has any experience with entertaining Seoul's lonely married women, untouched by their husbands because their husbands have been contributing to the upkeep of many of Seoul's RLDs, I'd love to hear your experience.
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Would like to hear more about the outcall services. Can anybody shead any light on the subject? When to find advertising and experiences with the ladies, looks? etc.
Thanks in advance.
Coke Can
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I made an agreement with a madame today to go for an all nighter. 8pm - 8am (minimum). This was of course, at Miari. We agreed upon 750,000 won for this Friday.
She initially said 1,000,000 won, and in the past I've paid as much as 1,300,000 won. Anyway, 750,000 won seems okay to me. She says if it's Sunday - Thursday she'll give it to me for 700,000 though. I know a chick at 588 who quoted me 600,000 won. I haven't gone with her yet though but I'm planning on doing so next month.
Okay, so does anyone have experience with all nighters in Miari/588 areas? I'm just wondering how much I'm overpaying (or maybe underpaying??).
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Cute Guy 9000,
I haven't posted any reports lately because I've been kept busy. I figured I'd share my lastest experiences though since you asked about interacting with married Korean women. I find the sex is great, and they don't want to become your boyfriend. The usual two date rule that single women have doesn't apply most of the time either.
First, I speak/read/write some Korean. Not great- but enought to get by in most situations. More importantly, I can read profiles in Korean and respond in Korean. I've found this helps a great deal in getting responses from ads.
Basically, I scan a few Korean personal sites a few months prior to my visit. I respond to the ones that are married or separated where I think they're hinting at wanting a lover. Key hints are mentioning that they have a bad marriage, no love, etc. I also include a picture (G rated guys). This is all done in Korean, and I usually get about a 50% response rate. I've been told by several of the women that they responded because I used Korean and sent a picture.
Once I get a response, I usually try and switch to English since my Korean is just basic. Some times it works, and some times it doesn't. We usually exchange a few emails and about 50% of those that responded drop off for one reason or another. I always ask if they are looking for a lover. If they say no, then I tell them that is what I am looking to find. I set up a date with those that are left. I usually take them to dinner and treat them with respect. I flirt with them and pay attention to them. It usually pays off.
I've done this the last few trips and have had more sex than I can handle. Rather than give a score card, I'll just give a few more hints.
1. Get a cell phone. You have to communicate to play. Learn Korean too if you can.
2. Treat them right. They can't feel like it is "dirty". Take them to dinner. Pay attention etc. It will pay off.
3. Don't press them for sex, and don't bring it up unless they do.
4. Have an excuse to bring them to your room bring a present, wine, or sweet. Otherwise, you'll have more difficulty in getting them to your room.
5. Read the Nampa board in the Japan section. The tools that work there work the world over. Granted Japanese girls are a bit different (more agressive I've found), but my impression is that Korean women are starting to become more aggressive these days. :-)
Happy Hunting!
BR
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Hate to over load the board with messages, but is there a web site or local newspaper that has info on outcall services, and what price I would expect to pay?
Again, Thanks
Would like to hear about some experiences, good or bad
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I don't know what the hell Scuba is going on about regarding Mia at Fantasy.
She flatly refused to do anything at the bar because people can see in through the door.
And no matter how much money I offered, anal was completely out of the question. About the only thing he did get right was BJ for 40,000. Only average skills, though.
Far and away the best mouth on the hill belongs to Annie at VIP. But I'm a little upset with her just now because she had laser eye surgery and no longer wears those sexy turtle-shell, horn-rim glasses.
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I am considering taking a job in the Osan area and would like to know if anyone has any experience with this area. Is there action available for the white American male or would I need to travel to Seoul? I've been to Korea once in 1995, but did not monger back then. As I will be living near Osan for at least a year, I'd like to get some idea of what to expect when I arrive. Anyone living in the area or who has recently traveled there, please PM me.
Thank you
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Check The Korea Times and/or The Korean Herald. The rates generally run 100,000w but that also depends on how far they have to travel. I live in Bucheon (only 40 mins from Yongsan) and usually have to fork over 120k.
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Will be Seoul for the 1st time this summer for 4 days, staying at the Riviera. Anyone know of any MP's that do HJ or more in that area? What should I expect to pay? I hear Seoul is expensive, I usually pay US$100 per visit.
Any advise would be helpful.
M Moe
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Thanks for the PM's.
New Question, I cannot find definition to the following:
RLD = ?
Miari = location?
Yongsan RLD = location?
588 = ?
Sorry for ignorance, but never been to Korea, and searching the forum would have taken forever.
Thanks in advance.
M Monroe
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BikeRider made some interesting observations about getting along with married Korean women. The only area I disgree about is the bringing up sex part. If the women are older -- late 30s to 40s -- they are eager for sex. If you feed a Korean women first, treat them with respect and talk to them, then it is just to easy to get laid.
When I was younger, I enjoyed the company of many older women because as the saying goes, "They don't tell, they don't swell and they are appreciative as hell." I am not as young, but it still applies to the middle aged women here.
I met one of my middle-aged friends today at Sadang. Noticed that there are a lot more barbershops and motels near Sadang station. Even saw a barbershop with six poles. Don't know what kind of service they are offering.
Had stopped in at one of the BSs in Sadang years ago, and it was first rate.
The economy must be getting tighter. I stopped by Yongsan this week and the tout wanted 70,000. I offered 60,000. She was crying about more money, so I tried to take the money back. She shut up and got a girl. I know I should do the window shopping bit, but thought I would see what was being offered. Turned out the girl was OK, not young, but friendly and cooperative. Having a laugh with them makes the experience much better.
Anyone else been to the BS in Itaewon?
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Alrite fellas, here's what went down last night until just a few minutes ago:
So I went to Miari really early yesterday, around 8:20pm. I went to the house that I frequent the most. I was choosing my fav. gal for an all nighter. 750,000 won. It ended up eventually being 745,000 won but that's a long story (basically a "game" between me and the madame where I won 5,000 won).
The gal got dressed. She dressed normally. Pants, shirt, baseball cap. Yup, you'd never guess she was a working gal. I notice that with all the girls I take for all nighters. Anyway, we walked around near the back of Miari to get to the main road (opposite of the Naebu Expressway). We got in a cab, and went over to Sinchon to get some dinner.
After dinner, we walked around Sinchon a bit, and then got in a cab again and went to Hongdae. We went to a bar that I frequent there, since one of the waitresses is a friend/dong-seng (like a younger sister) of mine. We hung out there for a few hours then we went walking around Hongdae some more.
We then went into a karaoke place for an hour. After that, we left, walked around some more. Then we got in a cab, and came over to my place in Sinchon. Due to having slept only 2 hours the previous night and 3 the night before that, I was really tired and soon fell asleep. I woke up a few hours later, I think around 6am or so. Afterwards, we had some breakfast, then we talked a bit, and then we got it on.
It was really nice being with this chick and not having to worry about "time" (not that the madame's there ever bother me, but still). I took all the time I wanted, and after about an hour of some hot action, I finally busted a nut. Definately one of the best I've had in a very long time.
We then just hung out for a little bit, and then she left about 20 minutes ago. It's 9:42am now, so she left at approximately 9:20am. I took her out around 8:20pm, so I've had 13 hours for 750,000 won. Of course, this doesn't include taxi, drinks, food, but I didn't spend much on all that anyway.
Overall, a good experience I will go for again. I've paid as much as 1,200,000 (or was it 1,300,000) and gotten 9pm - 2pm the next day. That's 17 hours, but for the price per hour, it's not worth it. Plus, in Miari you generally can't take the chick out of her place. I used to be able to keep one out for a few hours, but the one chick that just left I had out all night. She even agreed coming to my home, and not a motel, so that was even better. I think I've built a certain level of trust with all the Madame's/Chicas at Miari. :)
Anyway, I am tired, so I'm off to bed.