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About a year ago the hotel introduced a policy of not allowing gringos who bring hookers in since the kitchen was starting to resemble the bar on Deep Space 9 with all the freaks that were showing up. I actually trained my secretary to say "no speak English" and hang up the phone. Life has been much more quiet, and indeed much more profitable, since then.
[QUOTE=Tom 33]You have stopped using hookers?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Casa Medellin]About a year ago the hotel introduced a policy of not allowing gringos who bring hookers in since the kitchen was starting to resemble the bar on Deep Space 9 with all the freaks that were showing up. I actually trained my secretary to say "no speak English" and hang up the phone. Life has been much more quiet, and indeed profitable, since then.[/QUOTE]Got to love english only discrimination.
[QUOTE=Cool Hand Luke]Not everybody who comes to Medellin wants to stay at the Mansion or one of its clones. So trying to find a suitable alternative in el Centro would be difficult, as many of these establishments are unclean, unsafe and quite simply not the kind of places that that you would consider staying at. However, just recently I came across a hotel that that defies the stereotype and is great VFM.
The hotel is on five floors and has about 25 rooms. Lots of granite adorns the common areas and there is a small pool on the ground floor which is more suitable for paddling than swimming.
It is not set in the hustle and bustle of el centro but in a quiet street just off Oriente. It is safe, clean and not a bad option if you decide to stay in this part of town.
Name: Hotel Capitolio
Address: Carrera 49 #57-24
Tel: 512 0012
Nightly Rate: $25
Guests : $10 extra[/QUOTE]Yes this place is a decent hotel. I knew someone that stayed there. The restaurant attached to the hotel serves good food.
I would have to disagree with it being in a safe area. Actually I would say the opposite. It sits right in the middle of the transvestite pfp area. If you don't like walking through areas like that then forget about it. I am surprised lonely planet doesn't mention that in it's review.
I couldn't see an older white guy feeling too comfortable there at night. If you are in the backpacker sect a young buck or someone that has no cares in the world this place is for you. The staff is very nice.
The centro does have a few options but you need to go on foot and see for yourself.
[QUOTE=Escort King]Got to love english only discrimination.[/QUOTE]You can expect a lot more English only discrimination coming to Medellin in the next short while. I know several people who work in the larger hotels as well as some of the owners of other hotels. Everyone has been talking very openly about the behavior of many of the English speaking "mongers" and the consensus is universal that these clients are undesirable. In the last year several of the big hotels have introduced "guest policies" that are directed at making their hotels unattractive to the monger client base and this trend is going to continue.
It would also seem that several of the monger specific destinations are either for sale or the owners have left (or fled) the country proving that the business model is not workable in the long term.
The simple fact is if a hotel allows "mongers" then 15-20% of the people who randomly show up at the door are going to be complete idiots from another planet. In a small hotel these individuals will destroy the guest experience for everyone else as well as be a complete pain in the ass requiring attention non stop 24 hours a day. There is no way to filter out this 15-20% except by banning all guests who want to bring in hookers.
After prohibiting "unregistered guests" about a year ago our revenue immediately increased and everything else started running much more smoothly. Last time I was in Barranquilla I stayed at a hotel owed by one of the largest hotel companies in Colombia. There was a sign at the front desk saying "no guests are allowed in after 9:00pm" so it would appear that this trend is also spreading beyond Medellin.
I am sure some people are going to try to start a big argument with me for saying this but the bottom line is I am in business to make money and if I were to allow hookers in the hotel I would make less money and have more problems. I am not trying to insult anyone here or start a big argument, I am just telling it like it is. The Mansion does an excellent job at catering to people on this forum and I strongly recommend for everyone to go there.
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[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I am surprised lonely planet doesn't mention that in it's review.[/QUOTE]Hi,
The lonely planet guide for Colombia seems to be very bad. Check the reviews, apparently the writer has never been there.
I don't know if this is interesting, but here goes.
Medellin Bob and I travel alot to Caucasia and Zaragoza (he has a interest in a farm there)
We were driving in the morning from Caucasia to Zaragoza and called into a gas station to ask some questions when the attentent said to us, "have they picked up the bodies of the road yet"! We said, no, we didn't see any bodies, he said that in a drug related issue yesterday afternoon, 5 people were taken out of there bus, told to kneel down and shot in the back of the head! Mmmmmmmmm, my girlfriend (well one of them anyway) in the back of the car said what!
Given the fact that 5 people also were killed in caucasia the day before, we throught that that was the end of it!
Well in the afternoon, Medellin Bob's farm amnager arrives (late) and where driving back to Caucasia and he says that another 3 people were killed this morning in Caucasia, so thats 13 people in a day and a half! Not a bad strike rate hey!
Has anybody heard about all the drive by shootings in Laureles by people on motor bikes! Just a local thing though!
Aussie Greg
[QUOTE=Casa Medellin]You can expect a lot more English only discrimination coming to Medellin in the next short while. I know several people who work in the larger hotels as well as some of the owners of other hotels. Everyone has been talking very openly about the behavior of many of the English speaking "mongers" and the consensus is universal that these clients are undesirable. In the last year several of the big hotels have introduced "guest policies" that are directed at making their hotels unattractive to the monger client base and this trend is going to continue.
It would also seem that several of the monger specific destinations are either for sale or the owners have left (or fled) the country proving that the business model is not workable in the long term.
The simple fact is if a hotel allows "mongers" then 15-20% of the people who randomly show up at the door are going to be complete idiots from another planet. In a small hotel these individuals will destroy the guest experience for everyone else as well as be a complete pain in the ass requiring attention non stop 24 hours a day. There is no way to filter out this 15-20% except by banning all guests who want to bring in hookers.
After prohibiting "unregistered guests" about a year ago our revenue immediately increased and everything else started running much more smoothly. Last time I was in Barranquilla I stayed at a hotel owed by one of the largest hotel companies in Colombia. There was a sign at the front desk saying "no guests are allowed in after 9:00pm" so it would appear that this trend is also spreading beyond Medellin.
I am sure some people are going to try to start a big argument with me for saying this but the bottom line is I am in business to make money and if I were to allow hookers in the hotel I would make less money and have more problems. I am not trying to insult anyone here or start a big argument, I am just telling it like it is. The Mansion does an excellent job at catering to people on this forum and I strongly recommend for everyone to go there.[/QUOTE]Then why are you posting here. This is a board about hookers. Find the family channel and have fun. But stopping to lecture us is a waste of everyone's time.
[QUOTE=Escort King]Then why are you posting here. This is a board about hookers. Find the family channel and have fun. But stopping to lecture us is a waste of everyone's time.[/QUOTE]Because someone posted a fucking link and I wanted to make it perfectly clear not to come to this hotel because I do not want a bunch of mouth breathing idiots showing up.
[QUOTE=Escort King]Then why are you posting here. This is a board about hookers. Find the family channel and have fun. But stopping to lecture us is a waste of everyone's time.[/QUOTE]I think what he was getting at is people in Medellin are not thrilled about it being a monger destination. Colombians are very proud of their country and want people to enjoy their culture and natural beauty (Hmm).
Most people I met were trying to get it out of me (that I monger) but they couldn't. I have an alibi that I stick to when traveling to SA.
Overall I got the notion that most colombians are disgusted with people who come only to monger.
People react to you differently when you come back the second time around. I got some not so pleasant looks in a few normal establishments that I visited just a few months earlier.
I agree that a monger clientele is not the greatest group to have dominate a hotel. Shit happens and people do careless things. The same could be true at a place like the mansion where everybody mongers. Different problems could arise in that kind of a situation. As much as I like the frat house atmosphere I find it better to go it alone and hook up with mongers for dinner or some sort of other social activity.
I don't find the previous post offensive or boring. Just a little hint of self promotion that is all. Heck why not this is a monger site!
[QUOTE=Casa Medellin]Because someone posted a fucking link and I wanted to make it perfectly clear not to come to this hotel because I do not want a bunch of mouth breathing idiots showing up.[/QUOTE]Mate, you have 70 posts.
How did you know link was there?
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I think what he was getting at is people in Medellin are not thrilled about it being a monger destination. Colombians are very proud of their country and want people to enjoy their culture and natural beauty (Hmm).
Most people I met were trying to get it out of me (that I monger) but they couldn't. I have an alibi that I stick to when traveling to SA.
Overall I got the notion that most colombians are disgusted with people who come only to monger.
People react to you differently when you come back the second time around. I got some not so pleasant looks in a few normal establishments that I visited just a few months earlier.
I agree that a monger clientele is not the greatest group to have dominate a hotel. Shit happens and people do careless things. The same could be true at a place like the mansion where everybody mongers. Different problems could arise in that kind of a situation. As much as I like the frat house atmosphere I find it better to go it alone and hook up with mongers for dinner or some sort of other social activity.
I don't find the previous post offense or boring. Just a little hint of self promotion. Heck why not this is a monger site![/QUOTE]I agree there are some who make sex tourists look bad. But the country has many casa and they were not created for the gringos. I could easily stay at home and order in for the amount spent on travel, accommodation and everything else. I love to travel. The girls are perks. I get less rowdy when abroad then I do at a bar in nyc. Just observations by a mouth breather.
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I don't find the previous post offensive or boring. Just a little hint of self promotion that is all. Heck why not this is a monger site![/QUOTE]Thanks. However, this is not self promotion in any way as I am saying clearly that no one will be allowed in the door at all if they are with hookers. This has been the rule now for a long time and it is not going to change.
I originally asked Jackson to quietly delete the link to my site. However, Jackson does not like deleting stuff so he told me to post on here explaining the policy as I am doing so now.
Everything about Apartments and Hotels should be in this Thread.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=2654[/url]
[b]Casa Medellin[/b] I do believe I took your link off the List.
[QUOTE=Casa Medellin]Thanks. However, this is not self promotion in any way as I am saying clearly that no one will be allowed in the door at all if they are with hookers. This has been the rule now for a long time and it is not going to change.
I originally asked Jackson to quietly delete the link to my site. However, Jackson does not like deleting stuff so he told me to post on here explaining the policy as I am doing so now.[/QUOTE]What type of guests normally frequent your hotel?
Upscale Colombianos or Americans / Euros with normal girlfriends?
I do not think we roll in the same circles but most of the young ladies I met in Medellin usually get down to "gringo" how much can I get for as little as he will receive.
Remember the girls are not on the streets for us mongers and most are "taken up" by the locals.
Fact of life men who like women like to have sex with women.
I the mongers did not come they would stiill be there.
If you need and excuse I will allow you to borrow mine "I am here to see my children who live in Niquia".
I guess your explanation for how the people of Medellin hate the monger for being there, this is why most of the real hot ones I met on my first visit, April 2004 have disappeared. Or have they been exported to aruba, St. Maarten, Panama.
Great export for the reputation of Medellin.
Please think you are not that imnportant in their thoughts (only in their futures and peace). Better mongers in 2007 then than the gangs of 1997.
And
Promoting a hotel by saying do not come only let's me know you are interested in me showing up on your door step. I will stick with my cheap hole in the wall, Odeon. They are always nice to me and allow me to have any visitor I want without an extra fee.
Mike
[QUOTE=Artisttyp]I think what he was getting at is people in Medellin are not thrilled about it being a monger destination. Colombians are very proud of their country and want people to enjoy their culture and natural beauty (Hmm).
Most people I met were trying to get it out of me (that I monger) but they couldn't. I have an alibi that I stick to when traveling to SA.
Overall I got the notion that most colombians are disgusted with people who come only to monger.
People react to you differently when you come back the second time around. I got some not so pleasant looks in a few normal establishments that I visited just a few months earlier.
I agree that a monger clientele is not the greatest group to have dominate a hotel. Shit happens and people do careless things. The same could be true at a place like the mansion where everybody mongers. Different problems could arise in that kind of a situation. As much as I like the frat house atmosphere I find it better to go it alone and hook up with mongers for dinner or some sort of other social activity.
I don't find the previous post offensive or boring. Just a little hint of self promotion that is all. Heck why not this is a monger site![/QUOTE]