American Politics

[QUOTE=Spidy;2922781]Good read on polls and how they are often viewed and misused in politics.



In his article, Shawn Fleetwood, basically goes on to show [b]"the alarming voting trend towards Dems"[/b] and repeats what ISG Dems, have been saying for months.

The fantastic wins and gains for Democrats in the 2020, 2022, 2023 and 2024 elections, midterm elections, special elections and primaries, throughout the country (and not only in battleground states), is representative of how Americans have shifted or continue to vote for Dems, especially on key issues like [b]abortion, IVF, contraception[/b] and [b]marijuana[/b] are on the ballot.



Couldn't agree more! This one statement (above) in his article...sums it up![LIST]That when Repubs primarily chase an election win based on [i]"the (fake) polls"[/i], instead of ballots, Repubs like Trump, will only continue to [b]fail[/b] at the ballot-box, [b][i]"fall asleep at the wheel"[/i][/b] and inevitably, will only be fooling themselves![/LIST][/QUOTE]Listened to Scaramucci on rick wilson on youtube about how it may be different than how things are portrayed with polls and media.

I thought their insight was very interesting. One of them said that in 2016, people didn't want to say they were voting for Trump out of fear of being alienated by their family / friends. Now in 2024, pretty much all the people who are going to vote for Trump, within the Republican party, are very much outspoken. And those who do not plan to vote for him, are in a state of silence out of fear of MAGA. I believe this to be true as well.

So I think he will have fewer votes than he did in 2020, and possibly even less than 2016. Time will tell. That's why I tell everyone to vote, don't care who they vote for. Just do it.

Pollsters and media like to have a close match. Ratings / revenues are better for it. They have a reason to keep things close.

First, the Winger-owned Wall Street Jounal concocted a "report" about Joe Biden supposedly "slipping" mentally at a meeting that, no surprise, was comprised of known Repub liars' opinion and no truth-telling Dem opinion. Including one well-documented Repub former Squeaker of the House who was known to have made a similar public statement that he totally contradicted in private:

[B]The Wall Street Journals story about Bidens mental acuity suffers from glaring problems.
June 6, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/media/wall-street-journal-biden-mental-acuity/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE]The business broadsheet published and hyped a story Wednesday declaring that behind closed doors, President Joe Biden has shown signs of slipping. The story questioned Bidens mental acuity, playing into a GOP-propelled narrative that the 81-year-old president lacks the fitness to hold the nations highest office.

But an examination of the report reveals a glaring problem: Most of the sources reporters Annie Linskey and Siobhan Hughes relied on were Republicans. In fact, buried in the story, the reporters themselves acknowledged that they had drawn their sweeping conclusion based on GOP sources who, obviously, have an incentive to make comments that will damage Bidens candidacy.
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It is difficult to imagine that the newspaper, or any outlet, would run a similar story declaring that Trump is slipping behind the scenes based on the word of top Democratic figures despite the fact that the Democratic leadership has demonstrated a much stronger relationship with the truth in recent years than their Republican counterparts.

More broadly speaking, The Journals piece pointed to a continued problem roiling the news media as it covers the 2024 election. Trump is permitted to fall asleep in court and make nonsensical public statements on a routine basis without any serious questions raised about his mental acuity. Meanwhile, Biden is judged on an entirely different standard.[/QUOTE]Then, the Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group of local news outlets are caught repeating the Winger-owned WST bullshit "report" on their local outlets, which polls show viewers believe to be "more trustworthy" than the national outlets, apparently all reading from the exact same Winger script:

[B]Watch: Local Sinclair Anchors Read Same Shady Script on Bidens Age.
Local news anchors across the country are reading from the exact same script on Joe Biden.
June 11, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://newrepublic.com/post/182567/sinclair-right-wing-script-biden-age-local-news[/URL]

[QUOTE]Local television news broadcasters are airing suspiciously similar attacks on Joe Bidens mental acuity and how it will affect the coming electionand it appears to be part of a coordinated effort.

The Sinclair Broadcast Group owns or operates 185 local television stations across the country, and dozens of their stations aired a segment from national correspondent Matthew Galka citing a Wall Street Journal article that makes dubious attacks on Bidens age and mental awareness. The stations that aired the segment introduced it using startlingly similar, if not identical language, the Popular Information and Public Notice newsletters reported.[/QUOTE]And now we have this report in a couple of national news outlets:

[B]CEOs at Trump meeting say he was 'meandering,' 'doesn't know what he's talking about'.
June 14, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/14/ceos-at-trump-meeting-not-impressed.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON Former President Donald Trump failed to impress everyone in a room full of top CEOs Thursday at the Business Roundtables quarterly meeting, multiple attendees told CNBC.

Trump doesnt know what hes talking about, said one CEO who was in the room, according to a person who heard the executive speaking. The CEO also said Trump did not explain how he planned to accomplish any of his policy proposals, that person said.

Several CEOs said that Trump was remarkably meandering, could not keep a straight thought and was all over the map, CNBCs Andrew Ross Sorkin reported Friday on CNBCs Squawk Box.
.........
The same CEOs who were struck by Trumps lack of focus walked into the meeting being Trump supporter-ish or thinking that they might be leaning that direction, Sorkin reported.

These were people who I think might have been actually predisposed to Trump but actually walked out of the room less predisposed to him, Sorkin said.
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Trumps energy in the meeting was also noticeably subdued, according to two people who were in the room. At no time during his remarks was there any noticeable applause for Trump, two attendees told CNBC.
[/QUOTE]So this is when the modest test of Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group begins. Do I even have to spell out what that "more trustworthy" local news test is? LOL.

[QUOTE=CheckMate1;2922789]Listened to Scaramucci on rick wilson on youtube about how it may be different than how things are portrayed with polls and media.

I thought their insight was very interesting. One of them said that in 2016, people didn't want to say they were voting for Trump out of fear of being alienated by their family / friends. Now in 2024, pretty much all the people who are going to vote for Trump, within the Republican party, are very much outspoken. And those who do not plan to vote for him, are in a state of silence out of fear of MAGA. I believe this to be true as well.

So I think he will have fewer votes than he did in 2020, and possibly even less than 2016. Time will tell. That's why I tell everyone to vote, don't care who they vote for. Just do it.

Pollsters and media like to have a close match. Ratings / revenues are better for it. They have a reason to keep things close.[/QUOTE]Scaramucci is one of the very few commentators who usually bothers to point out that Biden's stiff gait is in large part due to the fact that he fractured his foot a few years ago and did not stay off of it long enough for it to fully return to normal, combined with other physical problems common to people in their 80's.

[B]Bidens Physical Says Hes Healthy and Vigorous, But Gait Remains Stiff[/B]

[URL]https://time.com/6256442/bidens-physical-healthy-gait-age/[/URL]

None of which has anything to do with his proven fitness to be one of the most accomplished Presidents in history, of course.

Biden himself does not generally offer any excuses for it nor does he expect any specual forgiveness or allowances for it. The same for his methods for brilliantly compensating for his early childhood stuttering problem, which sometimes manifests itself when he instantly substitutes a potential stutter trigger word or phrase for a perfectly acceptable alternative or takes a few seconds to choose the best way to most effectively answer a question that will avoid a potential stutter trigger.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2922711]
On another forum, this Democratic douche Viliany tried to make it out like the FEC with three Repubicans and three Democrats was a corrupt organization. Yes, the Democratic douche version of rule of law is an all Democratic jury like in Manhattan.

[/QUOTE]That was because you penned your latest fiction that the FEC had reviewed Trump's payoff scheme and exonerated him. Of course, this was patently untrue. But I guess anyone who challenged your revisionist recaps must be a Democratic douche.

I do have just one question for you Elvis. No value judgement here. Are you really Marjorie Taylor Greene in drag?

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2922621]I guess you missed the part where "rule of law" means you go to jail. You have to be a fucking narcissist not to understand that. Or maybe I am wrong, and you are not monger at all but some gay tranny living in his mom's basement where all you care about is who wins an election because you have no life.[/QUOTE]

(....kkkk!) Struck a nerve did I? Or was it a major artery? (...kkkk!)

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008]...some gay tranny living in his mom's basement...[/QUOTE]

Is that the best you got...a weak-ass "mom's basement" line? Well, let's just say, [b][i]"...Look man, I ain't gonna fall for NO banana in my tail pipe!"[/i][/b] (...kkkk!) (...kkkk!)

[b]'Thin-skinned' Trump's courtroom meltdown is entirely predictable[/b], Nov 06, 2023
[QUOTE]...This case gets to something very close to his heart, which is his identity as a business tycoon, [b]and we know that he has pretty thin skin[/b], and so this is a test for him if he can remain composed...

[URL]https://www.rawstory.com/trump-fraud-trial-2666162637/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[b]The Joy of Making Trump Listen to Mean Tweets About Himself[/b], Apr 17th, 2024
[QUOTE]The vicious, [b]thin-skinned ex-president[/b] was forced to endure readings of social media posts by prospective jurors that mercilessly mocked him. It was great! ...

[URL]https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-joy-of-making-trump-listen-to-mean-tweets-about-himself[/URL][/QUOTE]

Yep, definitely a chip of the ol' Donand J. Trump "daddy block"! Meaning you, Elvis 2008, are [u][b]as thin skinned[/b][/u] as your "Loud and Save-ior" convict, criminal pussy-grabbing, blubbering dumbass ex-president!

But I could be wrong, as others have wondered and asked the question, [i]"Is that you, Moscow Marjorie?"[/i] And to be fair w/r to the question, it is getting harder to distinguish between, all of Russia's "useful idiots"!!! (...kkkk!)


[b]PS:[/b] Only thirsty and desperate ISGers (typically wingers), [b][i]with little to no imagination,[/i][/b] continually trot out, some version of the same ol' dumb, worn out and tired [i]"...living in his mom's basement..."[/i] line, as if it's the ultimate mic drop moment!

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2922621]I guess you missed the part where "rule of law" means you go to jail...[/QUOTE]BTW, before I declare your statement (above), utter rubbish, [I][b]which or who's "rule of law"[/b][/I] are you dumbfoundingly referring to in scare quotes?

Is it the "rule of law" according to convict/felon Trump or INCEL Elvis 2008? Or is it the one, 340 million other law abiding Americans, answer to?

Or is this just more Elvis 2008, bemoaning a Trump GUILTY verdict and attempting sarcasm?

[QUOTE=Villainy;2922846]That was because you penned your latest fiction that the FEC had reviewed Trump's payoff scheme and exonerated him.[/QUOTE]The FEC did not fine Trump, and they find Hiliary for 2016. Enough said. You are engaged in an idiotic battle of semantics.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2922846]I do have just one question for you Elvis. No value judgement here. Are you really Marjorie Taylor Greene in drag?[/QUOTE]Is that supposed to be funny? You call me a liar and start with "no value judgement here". Is that your fucked up version of truth? You would not know truth if it hit you in the head.

But on to more important things, aren't you late for one of your Covid boosters? You still wearing a mask? Have you ventured out your Motel 6 in the last year? I remember you bragging about the towels there. Are they still all warm and fluffy? I think I can speak for all the guys here and say we were really jealous of you and your towels.

[QUOTE=Spidy;2922901]Or is it the one, 340 million other law abiding Americans, answer to?

Or is this just more Elvis 2008, bemoaning a Trump GUILTY verdict and attempting sarcasm?[/QUOTE]Do you work on being this stupid? The average American breaks three laws a day.

[URL]https://www.wholefoodsmagazine.com/articles/3161-three-felonies-a-day[/URL]

Just look through some 50 separate Titles of the United States Code, add those offenses together, and you will come up with at least 27,000 pages of crimes. That would be enough to be any attorney's nightmare, let alone for a private citizen. Yet, adding insult to injury, many of these criminal code sections then incorporate by reference the administrative regulations (and their sanctions and penalties) of various regulatory agencies. The ABA does not even know how many such regulations exist, but it approximates them to over 10,000. The sheer number of these laws is stupendous and still keeps growing. Even Congress' own research service cannot count the current number of Federal crimes. And if they cannot keep track of them, how could you or I?

All these numbers speak to a different concern: We find that there is no single place where an American can go to learn what is a federal crime. The laws are scattered pell-mell throughout the code.

Three Felonies a Day?

November 19,2020 Scott see. Tips.

"Show me the man and I'll find you the crime. " Lavrentiy Beria, Stalin's Soviet Security Chief.

It is no State secret that government legislators and bureaucrats churn out a multitude of laws, statutes, codes, rules, and regulations year after year without any letup. After all, they must justify their existence, and one way to do that is to make new laws, rules, and regulations for us to follow. It also solidifies their power over their fellow citizens.

Almost two millennia ago, the Roman historian Tacitus observed that "the more corrupt the State, the more numerous the laws. " he was on to something. In the United States, the growth industry is not really in Congressional laws, which actually show a mild downward trend at times, but is in the bureaucratic rules and regulations and guidance documents that they generate. The old and outdated rules and regulations rarely go away, while the new ones keep piling up. How can anyone, even a lawyer, keep up with all of the mandates?

The Result?

Some 20 years ago, the American Bar Association (ABA) reported that we have more than 3,300 separate criminal offenses. And 40% of these criminal offenses were created in just the previous three decades. Now, that estimate has increased to 4,500 Federal crimes in the United States Code, and more than 300,000 Federal crimes in some 400,000+ Federal rules and regulations!

Just look through some 50 separate Titles of the United States Code, add those offenses together, and you will come up with at least 27,000 pages of crimes. That would be enough to be any attorney's nightmare, let alone for a private citizen. Yet, adding insult to injury, many of these criminal code sections then incorporate by reference the administrative regulations (and their sanctions and penalties) of various regulatory agencies. The ABA does not even know how many such regulations exist, but it approximates them to over 10,000. The sheer number of these laws is stupendous and still keeps growing. Even Congress' own research service cannot count the current number of Federal crimes. And if they cannot keep track of them, how could you or I?

And if you cannot keep track of the laws, how will you know when they have been violated? For instance, assessing criminal penalties for harming the environment may sound like a great idea, but not when they result in an injustice. In 1994, the White Pass & Yukon Railroad hired a contracting company to blast and carry away rock outcroppings. In doing its work, one employee of the contractor was using a backhoe to clear some rock debris from the tracks and accidentally struck an oil pipeline running alongside the railroad tracks. The pipeline burst open and spilled many thousands of gallons of oil into the adjacent creek. Theoff-dutymanager of the Railroad (not the worker, nor the manager of the independent contractor) was later convicted and sentenced to six months in prison, a relatively lucky sentence considering the other criminal charges he faced for conduct that happened while he was not even working and by someone who was not even his employee!

Are We Being Over Criminalized?

In his 2011 book Three Felonies A Day How the Feds Target the Innocent, Boston civil-rights lawyer Harvey Silverglate reasoned that the average American commits several felonies each day without even realizing it. Worse still, he notes that if the government takes a dislike to you for any reason, then they can and will easily dig up a felony that you are guilty of.

That is the thing that unites all you Democratic douches, your complete fucking arrogance.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2922931]The FEC did not fine Trump, and they find Hiliary for 2016. Enough said. You are engaged in an idiotic battle of semantics. [/QUOTE]All that proves is that the Democratic FEC commissioners are more fair minded and willing to find fault. BTW Hillary's campaign was fined a miniscule amount and the DNC a much larger amount. And you know why? Because the DNC classified the expenditures for the Steele dossier as: . Wait for it. Legal expenses instead of Opposition Research.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2922931] But on to more important things, aren't you late for one of your Covid boosters? You still wearing a mask? Have you ventured out your Motel 6 in the last year? I remember you bragging about the towels there. Are they still all warm and fluffy? I think I can speak for all the guys here and say we were really jealous of you and your towels.[/QUOTE]So kind of you to be concerned. Yes I am up to date on my vaccinations. Are you? I remember you were quick to get those CoVid vaccination shots when they were first made available. Now, in a fit of hypocrisy that can only define a partisan hack. You attack the vaccinations and claim they are completely ineffectual and dangerous. Just one question Elvis, does your neck hurt when you talk out of both sides of your face?

As to the hotel in Medellin. I haven't lived there for close to 2 years now.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2922935]The average American breaks three laws a day.

[URL]https://www.wholefoodsmagazine.com/articles/3161-three-felonies-a-day[/URL]

Just look through some 50 separate Titles of the United States Code, add those offenses together, and you will come up with at least 27,000 pages of crimes. That would be enough to be any attorney's nightmare, let alone for a private citizen. Yet, adding insult to injury, many of these criminal code sections then incorporate by reference the administrative regulations (and their sanctions and penalties) of various regulatory agencies. The ABA does not even know how many such regulations exist, but it approximates them to over 10,000. The sheer number of these laws is stupendous and still keeps growing. Even Congress' own research service cannot count the current number of Federal crimes. And if they cannot keep track of them, how could you or I?

All these numbers speak to a different concern: We find that there is no single place where an American can go to learn what is a federal crime. The laws are scattered pell-mell throughout the code.

Three Felonies a Day?

November 19,2020 Scott see. Tips.

"Show me the man and I'll find you the crime. " Lavrentiy Beria, Stalin's Soviet Security Chief.

It is no State secret that government legislators and bureaucrats churn out a multitude of laws, statutes, codes, rules, and regulations year after year without any letup. After all, they must justify their existence, and one way to do that is to make new laws, rules, and regulations for us to follow. It also solidifies their power over their fellow citizens.

Almost two millennia ago, the Roman historian Tacitus observed that "the more corrupt the State, the more numerous the laws. " he was on to something. In the United States, the growth industry is not really in Congressional laws, which actually show a mild downward trend at times, but is in the bureaucratic rules and regulations and guidance documents that they generate. The old and outdated rules and regulations rarely go away, while the new ones keep piling up. How can anyone, even a lawyer, keep up with all of the mandates?

The Result?

Some 20 years ago, the American Bar Association (ABA) reported that we have more than 3,300 separate criminal offenses. And 40% of these criminal offenses were created in just the previous three decades. Now, that estimate has increased to 4,500 Federal crimes in the United States Code, and more than 300,000 Federal crimes in some 400,000+ Federal rules and regulations!

Just look through some 50 separate Titles of the United States Code, add those offenses together, and you will come up with at least 27,000 pages of crimes. That would be enough to be any attorney's nightmare, let alone for a private citizen. Yet, adding insult to injury, many of these criminal code sections then incorporate by reference the administrative regulations (and their sanctions and penalties) of various regulatory agencies. The ABA does not even know how many such regulations exist, but it approximates them to over 10,000. The sheer number of these laws is stupendous and still keeps growing. Even Congress' own research service cannot count the current number of Federal crimes. And if they cannot keep track of them, how could you or I?

And if you cannot keep track of the laws, how will you know when they have been violated? For instance, assessing criminal penalties for harming the environment may sound like a great idea, but not when they result in an injustice. In 1994, the White Pass & Yukon Railroad hired a contracting company to blast and carry away rock outcroppings. In doing its work, one employee of the contractor was using a backhoe to clear some rock debris from the tracks and accidentally struck an oil pipeline running alongside the railroad tracks. The pipeline burst open and spilled many thousands of gallons of oil into the adjacent creek. Theoff-dutymanager of the Railroad (not the worker, nor the manager of the independent contractor) was later convicted and sentenced to six months in prison, a relatively lucky sentence considering the other criminal charges he faced for conduct that happened while he was not even working and by someone who was not even his employee!

Are We Being Over Criminalized?

In his 2011 book Three Felonies A Day How the Feds Target the Innocent, Boston civil-rights lawyer Harvey Silverglate reasoned that the average American commits several felonies each day without even realizing it. Worse still, he notes that if the government takes a dislike to you for any reason, then they can and will easily dig up a felony that you are guilty of.

That is the thing that unites all you Democratic douches, your complete fucking arrogance.[/QUOTE]You've written some good posts recently Elvis. My main point of disagreement is that most board members posting in this thread are not douches, but rather people who've been sadly and unduly influenced by Democratic Party propaganda.

Your post above is my favorite. I read Silverglate's book and two others like them. Hunter Biden should never have been convicted of felony charges for weapons violations. Neither should Trump have been for paying off a porn star and cooperating with the National Enquirer to kill the Paula McDougal and false love child stories. The most egregious may have been the $455 million that Trump was fined by the state of New York for violating New York Executive Law 63 (12). There's no doubt he violated the law, which enables prosecutors to charge any New York business or businessman with fraud. But the magnitude of the fine was ridiculous given the banks knew Trump was lying on his statements of financial condition and loaned him money anyway. And Trump never defaulted on the terms of the loans in question. He made all the principal and interest payments and the banks made money. Finally, none of the money will go to the banks that allegedly were defrauded. Rather all of it will go into the coffers of the State of New York. And that's one of the main reasons for the existence of New York Executive Law 63 (12), to enable the state to grab assets from businesses and businessmen.

The one silver lining in this is perhaps it will start to make the political class realize how fucked up our justice system is. Maybe that's starting to seep in on Trump. In fact, maybe Hunter would have fared better under a Trump Department of Justice than he is now. From the New York Times:

[I](Trump) sometimes leads with empathy about the plight of addiction and his own family experience with it, including in a recent interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News.

“I had a brother who suffered tremendously from alcoholism and alcohol,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Hannity of his older brother, Fred Trump Jr., whose fight with addiction Mr. Trump often credits for why he himself does not drink. “And it was a terrible thing to watch. He was an incredible guy with the best personality. He was the best-looking person you have ever seen. Everything was perfect. But he had an addiction. And so I understand addiction.”

In other interviews this year, he has used questions about Hunter Biden to suggest his empathy with those struggling with addiction and to lament the destructive effects of fentanyl flowing across the border.

These days, Mr. Trump rarely mentions Hunter Biden on the stump. Instead, he tends to refer broadly to Mr. Biden and his family as corrupt.[/I]

[URL]https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/11/us/politics/donald-trump-hunter-biden.html?searchResultPosition=12[/URL]

As Silverglate has written, this issue is much bigger than just Biden and Trump. And for that matter it's even bigger than what Silverglate writes about. How many young, black American men are in jail who shouldn't be? How many people have been executed who never should have been? We historically have had the highest or close to the highest incarceration rate in the world. The prosecutors are out of control.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2922798]First, the Winger-owned Wall Street Jounal concocted a "report" about Joe Biden supposedly "slipping" mentally at a meeting that, no surprise, was comprised of known Repub liars' opinion and no truth-telling Dem opinion. Including one well-documented Repub former Squeaker of the House who was known to have made a similar public statement that he totally contradicted in private:

[B]The Wall Street Journals story about Bidens mental acuity suffers from glaring problems.
June 6, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/media/wall-street-journal-biden-mental-acuity/index.html[/URL]

Then, the Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group of local news outlets are caught repeating the Winger-owned WST bullshit "report" on their local outlets, which polls show viewers believe to be "more trustworthy" than the national outlets, apparently all reading from the exact same Winger script:

[B]Watch: Local Sinclair Anchors Read Same Shady Script on Bidens Age.
Local news anchors across the country are reading from the exact same script on Joe Biden.
June 11, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://newrepublic.com/post/182567/sinclair-right-wing-script-biden-age-local-news[/URL]

And now we have this report in a couple of national news outlets:

[B]CEOs at Trump meeting say he was 'meandering,' 'doesn't know what he's talking about'.
June 14, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/14/ceos-at-trump-meeting-not-impressed.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

So this is when the modest test of Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group begins. Do I even have to spell out what that "more trustworthy" local news test is? LOL.[/QUOTE]I never knew the Sinclair Broadcast Group existed before reading about it on this forum. It's interesting to know that it's part of a vast right wing conspiracy to brainwash Americans in the heartland. Since I know little about it, I can't comment.

However, I do read the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. And have in the past subscribed to the Washington Post. The WSJ is the only one of the group that has objective news reporting about American politics. It broke the Stormy Daniels and National Enquirer / Paula McDougal stories. There's a good chance America never would have known about these alleged instances of election interference if not for the WSJ.

The CNN piece is a misrepresentation of the WSJ article, which was extremely well researched. Yes, the WSJ piece does paint a sad picture of the President's mental acuity, because the man is slipping. But it bent over backwards to be fair to Biden. For example:

[I]Former President Donald Trump, who at 77 is 3 years younger than Biden, also has faced questions about his mental acuity. Indeed, both candidates have been captured repeatedly on camera slipping up on facts or otherwise botching their public remarks, providing a steady stream of fodder for both Democrats and Republicans to attack the mental capacity of the opposing candidate.


During Bidens January meeting on Ukraine, the president laid out a forceful case for providing aid, according to administration officials and some participants, who added that using notes in such meetings is common practice. White House spokesman Bates denied that Biden had misspoken during his one-on-one exchange with Johnson in February about energy policy.

Administration aides familiar with last years debt-ceiling negotiations said Biden was effective, that his role was to be above the fray and to provide detailed instructions behind the scenes. They said McCarthy privately told administration officials at the time that he was impressed with Bidens performance, and that McCarthy suggested as much in public remarks.

They said the passage of both Ukraine funding and a debt-ceiling increase without major concessions to Republicans shows he succeeded.

Some who attended the meetings attributed off-key moments to his speech impediment and his tendency to be long-winded. Those who expressed concern about Biden said the behavior they saw suggested an unevenness, not the caricature of an addled leader that some of his political opponents draw. The White House said the presidents doctors have found him fit to serve, and that his recent annual physical showed no need for a cognitive test.

Members of the Biden administration offered numerous examples of other situations that they said showed the president was sharp and engaged, including long hours in the Situation Room in April during and after Irans missile attack on Israel, and late nights on the phone with lawmakers from his White House residence.[/I]

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/joe-biden-age-election-2024-8ee15246?mod=Searchresults_pos4&page=1[/URL]

We don't often get to see Biden unscripted, like Robert Hur, Merrick Garland's hand-picked special prosecutor in the classified documents case. Hur and others who have, including some of the sources in the WSJ article, don't paint a pretty picture.

Fair and balanced doesn't mean fair and balanced to just your side.

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2923035]I never knew the Sinclair Broadcast Group existed before reading about it on this forum. It's interesting to know that it's part of a vast right wing conspiracy to brainwash Americans in the heartland. Since I know little about it, I can't comment.

However, I do read the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. And have in the past subscribed to the Washington Post. The WSJ is the only one of the group that has objective news reporting about American politics. It broke the Stormy Daniels and National Enquirer / Paula McDougal stories. There's a good chance America never would have known about these alleged instances of election interference if not for the WSJ.

The CNN piece is a misrepresentation of the WSJ article, which was extremely well researched. Yes, the WSJ piece does paint a sad picture of the President's mental acuity, because the man is slipping. But it bent over backwards to be fair to Biden. For example:

[I]Former President Donald Trump, who at 77 is 3 years younger than Biden, also has faced questions about his mental acuity. Indeed, both candidates have been captured repeatedly on camera slipping up on facts or otherwise botching their public remarks, providing a steady stream of fodder for both Democrats and Republicans to attack the mental capacity of the opposing candidate.


During Bidens January meeting on Ukraine, the president laid out a forceful case for providing aid, according to administration officials and some participants, who added that using notes in such meetings is common practice. White House spokesman Bates denied that Biden had misspoken during his one-on-one exchange with Johnson in February about energy policy.

Administration aides familiar with last years debt-ceiling negotiations said Biden was effective, that his role was to be above the fray and to provide detailed instructions behind the scenes. They said McCarthy privately told administration officials at the time that he was impressed with Bidens performance, and that McCarthy suggested as much in public remarks.

They said the passage of both Ukraine funding and a debt-ceiling increase without major concessions to Republicans shows he succeeded.

Some who attended the meetings attributed off-key moments to his speech impediment and his tendency to be long-winded. Those who expressed concern about Biden said the behavior they saw suggested an unevenness, not the caricature of an addled leader that some of his political opponents draw. The White House said the presidents doctors have found him fit to serve, and that his recent annual physical showed no need for a cognitive test.

Members of the Biden administration offered numerous examples of other situations that they said showed the president was sharp and engaged, including long hours in the Situation Room in April during and after Irans missile attack on Israel, and late nights on the phone with lawmakers from his White House residence.[/I]

[URL]https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/joe-biden-age-election-2024-8ee15246?mod=Searchresults_pos4&page=1[/URL]

We don't often get to see Biden unscripted, like Robert Hur, Merrick Garland's hand-picked special prosecutor in the classified documents case. Hur and others who have, including some of the sources in the WSJ article, don't paint a pretty picture.

Fair and balanced doesn't mean fair and balanced to just your side.[/QUOTE]So the Winger Murdoch-owned WSJ "report" with the headline:

[B]Behind Closed Doors, Biden Shows Signs of Slipping.
Participants in meetings said the 81-year-old president performed poorly at times. The White House said Biden is sharp and his critics are playing partisan politics.[/B]

Is obviously fair and balanced according to you because somewhere in the "report" they threw in some "Bothsider" pabulum about Trump too.

Great.

When the WSJ features a headline like that about Donald covfefe, WWII is coming, I nearly escaped death, that photo of my sexual assault victim is of my wife, a failed teleprompter always means it's Sharknado Week, CEOs he addressed say he meandered and didn't know what he was talking about (a claim never made about Biden) Trump and then Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group's local news outlet anchors repeat the most election-damaging phrases from it in parrot-like mimicry around the country sometime between now and November 5, please post the links for it here.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2922798]First, the Winger-owned Wall Street Jounal concocted a "report" about Joe Biden supposedly "slipping" mentally at a meeting that, no surprise, was comprised of known Repub liars' opinion and no truth-telling Dem opinion. Including one well-documented Repub former Squeaker of the House who was known to have made a similar public statement that he totally contradicted in private:

[B]The Wall Street Journals story about Bidens mental acuity suffers from glaring problems.
June 6, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/media/wall-street-journal-biden-mental-acuity/index.html[/URL]

Then, the Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group of local news outlets are caught repeating the Winger-owned WST bullshit "report" on their local outlets, which polls show viewers believe to be "more trustworthy" than the national outlets, apparently all reading from the exact same Winger script:

[B]Watch: Local Sinclair Anchors Read Same Shady Script on Bidens Age.
Local news anchors across the country are reading from the exact same script on Joe Biden.
June 11, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://newrepublic.com/post/182567/sinclair-right-wing-script-biden-age-local-news[/URL]

And now we have this report in a couple of national news outlets:

[B]CEOs at Trump meeting say he was 'meandering,' 'doesn't know what he's talking about'.
June 14, 2024[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2024/06/14/ceos-at-trump-meeting-not-impressed.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

So this is when the modest test of Sinclair Winger Broadcast Group begins. Do I even have to spell out what that "more trustworthy" local news test is? LOL.[/QUOTE]It's really funny how some people are willing to throw stones from the comfort of their glass houses. One would presume they should be very, very quiet due to glaring Trump's own mental issues, but alas.

From another thread:

[B]Biden Is Getting Older. Trump Is Losing His Mind.[/B]

[URL]https://www.thebulwark.com/p/biden-getting-older-trump-losing-mind[/URL]

[B]Trump, Dementia, Collective Pathology[/B]

[URL]https://kenmcgoogan.com/2024/05/17/trump-dementia-collective-pathology[/URL]

This is that damning petition McGoogan is talking about, and it's currently signed by nearly 2,500 licensed mental health professionals (3 weeks ago it was signed by 1,900 people).

[QUOTE]We, the undersigned licensed medical and mental health professionals concur: From our years of training and experience, we are convinced that, while a definitive diagnosis would require further testing, Donald Trump is showing unmistakable signs strongly suggesting dementia, based on his public behavior and informant reports that show progressive deterioration in memory, thinking, ability to use language, behavior, and both gross and fine motor skills.[/QUOTE][B]Our Diagnostic Impression of Trump is Probable Dementia: For Licensed Professionals Only[/B]

[URL]https://www.change.org/p/our-diagnostic-impression-of-trump-is-probable-dementia-for-licensed-professionals-only[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2922935]Do you work on being this stupid? The average American breaks three laws a day.

[URL]https://www.wholefoodsmagazine.com/articles/3161-three-felonies-a-day[/URL]

Just look through some 50 separate Titles of the United States Code, add those offenses together, and you will come up with at least 27,000 pages of crimes. That would be enough to be any attorney's nightmare, let alone for a private citizen. ...

Three Felonies a Day?
...

Some 20 years ago, the American Bar Association (ABA) reported that we have more than 3,300 separate criminal offenses. And 40% of these criminal offenses were created in just the previous three decades. Now, that estimate has increased to 4,500 Federal crimes in the United States Code, and more than 300,000 Federal crimes in some 400,000+ Federal rules and regulations!
...

Are We Being Over Criminalized? [/QUOTE]That was a nice comedic, Moscow Marjorie, rant on crime. I find your "outrage" on crime and The Rule of Law, just childish rubbish. Thus very disingenuous and unauthentic.

[u]Ignorantia juris non excusat:[/u]

Yes, by all means post and quote the all the stats, numbers and pages and pages of criminal documentation, laws and rules that are in the US and are shockingly and suddenly, relevant to Repub's rants on crime. But in case you have figured it out yet, this is the very reason (unfortunately), why lawyers exist. [B]Ignorantia juris non excusat![/B] (Ignorance of the Law is No Defense!)

Isn't it always funny how, you Trump apologists and multi-millionaire, billionaire and white-collar apologists, love to get up on your high horse and turn a blind eye to white collar crime, while simultaneously love to rant, bloviate and pound the table, religiously when it comes to blue collar crime. [b]Almost as if to say, white collar crime should get a pass![/b]

What you Moscow Marjories and Russia's most "useful idiots", fail to realize, is that much of the criminal code written (over time) or in the past several decades, was written by "white-collar" lawmakers, primarily for "blue-collar" workers, or put into law by upper-class citizens to keep lower-class citizens in check. It's only when these same criminal laws and statutes are now being applied to them, that we see an outcry to abandon, "The Rule of Law", "the DOJ and criminal justice system are corrupt/unfair" or an outcry to "defund the FBI" ...etc.

The fact is, White-collar crime has EXPLODED! You see it among the elites and billionaires around the world. You see it with high ranking officials, like with several of our SCOTUS justices. We've seen it with an unhinged ex-president in Trump, who led a violent QAnon/MAGA mob, in a seditious and treasonous insurrection.

So when white-collar crime is being defending by their apologists, it often comes with the ill-conceived foolish notion that white-collar crime is "victimless" crime and therefore [I][b]"no harm, no foul"[/b][/I] and no punishment should be applied.

But people like Trump, knew he was committing a crime, because he had the benefit of highly paid lawyers, telling him as much. OVER and OVER and OVER again! For decades, his lawyers have been advising him on what is and isn't criminal behavior w/r to the Law. And for decades he's operated in criminal behavior, UNCHECKED! Until now that is!

But much like one of my fav. fables, [i]"The Scorpion and the Frog"[/i],...Trump the serial liar and serial criminal, just can't help himself, [i][b]"...it's in his nature".[/b][/i]

And what is so evident from all of Trump's trials, is that Trump loves to hire corrupt, unethical and unscrupulous lawyers. So he can commit criminal behavior and then throw his gullible corrupt lawyers "under the bus", for his criminal acts. The US jails are littered with Trump's ex-lawyers.

But dear ol' Donald, always thinks he the "smartest cat" in the room. He's be been peddling in criminal behavior for decades, and his comeuppance may have finally arrived.

However, Americans now know and have come to realize that, Trump LISTENS TO KNOW ONE! ...WHY?

Because he, Trump, [B][u]thinks[/u] he's ABOVE THE LAW![/B] And I'm sure, many of you, Trump and billionaire apologists, think they are too!

[QUOTE=Tiny12;2923031]You've written some good posts recently Elvis. My main point of disagreement is that most board members posting in this thread are not douches, but rather people who've been sadly and unduly influenced by Democratic Party propaganda.[/QUOTE]Good to hear from you Tiny. But first off, I have to disagree with you. If you are a monger and think of yourself and others here as "law abiding citizens" then you are an arrogant douche regardless of party affiliation. If you are promoting "rule of law" when mongering versus innocent until proven guilty or reasonable doubt, then you are a hypocrite. I think several here are under the delusion that government likes them while hating other mongers.

I made a Jewish-PLO analogy with the Trump case but there is a better one in the monger world. The two witnesses against you are a hooker who will say or do anything for a buck and her jailed pimp who will say or do anything to get out of jail. Literally anything those two said should constitute reasonable doubt. So it is crazy for a monger to being cheering on a conviction based on testimony from people like that. They both lied and were caught lying. The only way a monger can cheer on a victory like that is the arrogance that they will not be charged like that is a similar fashion, and that too is being a douche without regards to party affiliation. If your ego is in check, you should not be cheering this on but be petrified that the same could happen to you. You have to buy into the delusion of "rule of law" and the delusion that you are "law abiding" to be happy with it.

If you have read those books, you know that law is grey. Law comes not just from legislative bodies, but also from judges and from administrative bodies, and they often contradict one another. If I am on a jury then, I am not focused on "rule of law" but what is best for us as a society. Ironically, apparently, the jury was 6 to 6 which was probably broken down among party lines at first and within a day they were unanimous. If you go by "rule of law", Hunter Biden is guilty as fuck, and I think that is what the Democratic jurors were convinced of.

But you do not see Republicans jumping up and down about Hunter being convicted. You see this [URL]https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1800550481481146847:[/URL] Hunter Biden being convicted of a firearms charge is the ultimate red herring of red herrings. The DOJ allowed the statute of limitations expire on his most serious tax charges, buried evidence of the Bidens' foreign bribery allegations, and attempted to give Hunter a sweetheart deal with broad immunity. David Weiss wouldn't go after him on the serious tax charges or on FARA because all of that would lead back to the shady business dealings involving his father. Instead, they went after him for a much lesser charge, where the evidence was way too insurmountable to ignore, so they can scream "nobody is above the law" when they put President Trump in jail.

Why are we so upset about foreign governments, when the worst election manipulators are in our own government? I would much prefer the Democratic douches stop prosecuting Republicans out of this bullshit that was let slide before like FARA and contempt of Congress, but if you are going to use this rule of law bullshit, we will too.

Thing is with "rule of law", it seems like the law preventing Hunter from owning a gun violates the 2nd amendment, but this case arguably the best Hunter had to defend himself with, was stripped away by the judge. So the while Hunter matter was not "rule of law" but choosing to go after which law he broke and tossing the laws that contradict with the case you are bringing.

To strike away the 2nd amendment with Hunter shows how much power judges have, and a lot of them are fucking nuts. To say the judges in any of these NY cases were not compromised is a joke. The thing is in the two civil cases the judges got away with their BS.

In this case, the guilty verdict was not well received. What would have destroyed any other pol did not damage Trump at all, and there is evidence it helped him. Like with Hunter and the 2nd amendment, the judge had to make preliminary rulings that removed contradictory laws to move the case forward. That is Trump's wrong doing was a misdemeanor and the statue of limitations is 2 years. If you follow "rule of law" and custom then, the Trump case is never brought because the statue of limitations lapsed.

But have you noticed Tiny no one is referring to Trump as a "convicted felon" much. This is when I get into conspiracy mode. If you are a Democratic douche engaging in herd think as they all do, the comment that was left on the Supreme Court's Facebook page does not matter. It was just some idiot poster. It was actually put up and then deleted after the fact, but it really was huge. The fact that the Supreme Court brought that to the judge's attention and the judge sent out a letter means the case will probably be a mistrial.

At the federal level, any instance of juror misconduct will result in a mistrial and the government has to prove the jury was not tainted. With NY courts, they can do a little more investigating but not much more. If the NY court system wanted this jury decision to stand, then they would have ignored the comment.

But jury misconduct like so many other laws is sporadically enforced. Hell, the whole jury on the OJ case had their bags packed up before the case went into deliberations. Before the jury even convened, they knew their fellow jurors were voting not guilty.

Honestly, I thought we had already been through this shit. We got around prostitution laws by paying for time and giving gifts versus paying directly for sex. Then the government changed it such that prostitution and human trafficking were synonymous and they started arresting boat loads of mongers. The laws passed by Congress were minor in comparison to how LE interpreted human trafficking.

You look at the definition of human trafficking and within the definition is using money to coerce women into having sex with you. I have to wonder how many douches look at that and think that definition does not apply to them.