Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2635014]I went last Mon. & Tues. plus last Fri. and plenty of good finds each night IMO. I do not like weekends when packed to the gills and literally tripping over others and all smoke filled = hate that.

Next trip though I may try the escort route and get a room at Ticuan or similar. I like to spend more time with quality girls than quantity pump and dump but it is all good.[/QUOTE]Ticuan and escorts from a site is my favorite way to do Tijuana. And still love the F out of the zona. But yeah, escorts. I love Tijuana. Need to move back to la or sd from Idaho. But just don't like California politics, and other craziness.

[QUOTE=Rainman306;2635791]The main reason most sessions are 30 minutes is because that's how long HK hotel room rentals are? I always get my own hotel room & usually I consider the standard time to be 1 hour.

Usually longer sessions are only a slight bump up, but of course the HK girls will try to ask for more. For me, I would say the prices should be as follows:

1/2 hour - $80 standard talent, $100 Top Talent, $120 Best Looking Girl in the place.

1 hour - $100, $120, $140.

90 minutes - $120, $140, $160.

Multiple Hours / All night - $200-$220, $300-350, $400-500.[/QUOTE]Always pay in pesos.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2636320]And their logical thought process was to upcharge everything with the pandemic causing a slow down in business. Most of the $100 quoters are 7's at best and that's if you want to overlook their botched ass implants and equally terrible boob jobs.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know exactly how they get paid?

Sources of Revenue are:

Tips.

Fichas.

Private lapdances.

Commissions on ST rooms.

Sex.

I read somewhere that they keep 100% of what they earn from tips and from sex and then get commissions on fichas and the short term room rate. Can anyone confirm this and what the percentage commissions are I am working on a model to understand their financial incentives to give discounts for longer sex sessions and it comes down to how they maximize their profits between the sources of revenue they have available to them.

[QUOTE=Federico69;2636445]Does anyone know exactly how they get paid?

Sources of Revenue are:

Tips.

Fichas.

Private lapdances.

Commissions on ST rooms.

Sex.

I read somewhere that they keep 100% of what they earn from tips and from sex and then get commissions on fichas and the short term room rate. Can anyone confirm this and what the percentage commissions are I am working on a model to understand their financial incentives to give discounts for longer sex sessions and it comes down to how they maximize their profits between the sources of revenue they have available to them.[/QUOTE]I was able to negotiate TLN for $300. Her 30 min rate was $100, but business was slow on a Tuesday. She told me that she keeps all the $ for sex, but the management wants the girls on the floor working as the club mainly makes money from fichas.

[QUOTE=Federico69;2636445]Does anyone know exactly how they get paid?

Sources of Revenue are:

Tips.

Fichas.

Private lapdances.

Commissions on ST rooms.

Sex.

I read somewhere that they keep 100% of what they earn from tips and from sex and then get commissions on fichas and the short term room rate. Can anyone confirm this and what the percentage commissions are I am working on a model to understand their financial incentives to give discounts for longer sex sessions and it comes down to how they maximize their profits between the sources of revenue they have available to them.[/QUOTE]They have a ficha quota of drinks per shift and get a small amount from each drink sold. They keep all the money from arribas. Everyone of those tickets they get from meseros, fichas and lapdances they turn in at the end of their shift for the pay. Its like $2-3 dollars for every ficha.

Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2636498]I was able to negotiate TLN for $300. Her 30 min rate was $100, but business was slow on a Tuesday. She told me that she keeps all the $ for sex, but the management wants the girls on the floor working as the club mainly makes money from fichas.[/QUOTE]So how long is the TLN for from a certain time at night until morning or how did that work? I presume the later in her shift it is the more likely she is to agree to it.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2636508]They have a ficha quota of drinks per shift and get a small amount from each drink sold. They keep all the money from arribas. Everyone of those tickets they get from meseros, fichas and lapdances they turn in at the end of their shift for the pay. Its like $2-3 dollars for every ficha.

Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.[/QUOTE]Yeah. I don't understand taking them on vacations to Cancun / tulum. Why bring sand to the beach, plenty of chicas available for sex in Quintana Roo. I think some men crave the girlfriend experience and will shell out a lot of $$$ for it.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2636508]Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.[/QUOTE]This is so, so true. There's been a lot of talk about rising standard rates, and while the girls in the mid-tier and lower are likely to suffer as a result because less mongers will come to HK overall, the top tier girls are largely living off of their big spending clients. If I had to bet, they couldn't care less if there's fewer small / average spenders in the club.

[QUOTE=Maelstrom;2636508]They have a ficha quota of drinks per shift and get a small amount from each drink sold. They keep all the money from arribas. Everyone of those tickets they get from meseros, fichas and lapdances they turn in at the end of their shift for the pay. Its like $2-3 dollars for every ficha.

Most of the money they will make will be seeing clients outside HK. That's where the real scam starts for them by manipulating gullible mongers that they are looking for relationships and an Novio from America to rescue them.
I know and have personally seen guys that have fallen way deep in this rabbit hole, buying these girls Iphones, paying their rent, monthly bills, taking the to Tulum spending $5k a month on them sadly.[/QUOTE]How do you know there is a ficha quota?

BlackThought,

It's the expensive pride of ownership.

Even ugly girls know how to make certain guys feel they have found the most precious things in the world.

If you have VIP card at HK and are getting the half price lap dance ($10), make sure you get the exact change from the Mesero before you go in the booth. This past weekend, I gave the mesero $20, and he told me he will get me the change when I come out. I even tipped him $2 so he won't knock early. But when I came out he claimed he gave me extra time so no change is needed. I could have gotten a manager to straighten his ass out, but couldn't be bothered as my friends were waiting for me. Just want to make everyone be aware this as one of the many dirty tricks the mesero's will play.

Come to think of it, unless a girl is willing to give you a BJ or go completely naked in the booth, the lap dance booth is not really worth it. You can pretty much get everything you want with a ficha if it is the right girl.

[QUOTE=Federico69;2636565]So how long is the TLN for from a certain time at night until morning or how did that work? I presume the later in her shift it is the more likely she is to agree to it.[/QUOTE]Mine was 3 am to 8 am, she would've stayed later, but I really needed a power nap as I had a long drive home so I booted her out.

Yes, later in the shift like when the girls outnumber the guys.

[QUOTE=LuvMexicanas;2636594]How do you know there is a ficha quota?[/QUOTE]Oh, man, don't stir up this shit again!

[QUOTE=BlackThought;2636571]Yeah. I don't understand taking them on vacations to Cancun / tulum. Why bring sand to the beach, plenty of chicas available for sex in Quintana Roo. I think some men crave the girlfriend experience and will shell out a lot of $$$ for it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, sad to admit that I'm one of those dudes. The 4 day trip cost $4 k and she didn't want anything besides some ray and sunglasses. I didn't see any talent besides maybe single ladies in Coco Bongo or he mens clubs. The mens clubs were overpriced and talent level was low.

[QUOTE=KoolBeans;2636783]Yeah, sad to admit that I'm one of those dudes. The 4 day trip cost $4 k and she didn't want anything besides some ray and sunglasses. I didn't see any talent besides maybe single ladies in Coco Bongo or he mens clubs. The mens clubs were overpriced and talent level was low.[/QUOTE]I got crazy in the past when I was making good money, not baller status but. Descent. It is funny when your broke you find out how many of them girls are your friends. In my experience not too many women will hang around a poor guy. One chica I knew forget everyone who helped her not that she hooked up with her latest sugar daddy, living the "high" life of drugs and alcohol and fake superficial Instagram life at her beautiful condo overlooking the golf course. Her new man is blowing 1000's of dollar per month keeping her happy as she flaunts it to us ex Johns on her Instagram LOL. Always there's always someone with more money out there. As my Korean friend once said, she is a gold digger.