German FKK Clubs - Lounge and chat area

Yeah I am the same place as you guys. Glad I got married and had kids and the whole "adult thing" but equally glad that I discovered a second life with the WGs.

I believe it was ExPat talking about the illusion. Which is great and the great girls can bring it. Recently I discovered Seeking Arrangement can bring a more authentic experience tho it's a lot of work. And since it's real girls (at least the way I play it) there is way more real emotion involved for better or worse.

I had one girl decline to see me the next night (and we never made it to the room) because she was uncomfortable with my marriage status. This is a real girl thing. Well this same girl has come full circle and we are going to travel together soon when I am on business.

FWIW I have found that a nice non pro Seeking girl will be happy with about the same as an escort but for 3-4 hours dinner and dancing not just in room time.

It takes a TON of effort to find the good ones. But when you do it's way more authentic than pure escort. So it's a nice in between if you are looking for something more. And in the US where prostitution is so painfully illegal and difficult this has become my go to.

I had hot girlfriends and good sex right into my 40's. After 20 years of marriage, no sex. Ironically, in my youth all my girlfriends gave great blowjobs, but my wife never liked to and I could never teach her how to do it well. In marriage you can't have everything. It seemed worth the trade off. The occasional FKK trip takes the tension and need off me, and I don't beg or argue with my wife about sex.

That said, I never, in my civilian life, had sex with women as hot as I just did over the past two days in Frankfurt, and few who gave such exquisite blowjobs.

Its still such a treat when I enter my first club of a trip, see the naked youth, and have my first session. What joy, what paradise! So happy to have found my way here. So glad it is legal and safe.

Sometimes I want to message all porn users. Your fantasies can really come true.

Yes, FKK are kind of second and very different life, but even never married, I may love too much freedom, but with my real life girlfriends, I really didn't need to go elsewhere. Even my last one told me she didn't like sex, from her previous married life, when we met, it was like she threw me icy water in face, but she was so pretty and kissing me all the time, she needed so much love, not being fucked like a piece of meat by her husband, she told me she thought I would leave her, but after kissing and caressing for weeks like if we were 15 , we started foreplaying with DATY after nearly 2 months, when she enjoyed, started with fingers, when she enjoyed, started to rub me on her clit, then on her vagina, but she was so closed even had a child. Took months of love and patience, but after, she asked for: I wait for You, even when she was sick and weak, never heard about headache, had sex during periods. I m proud I re build her as a woman, my present for a wonderful, full of love, so pretty woman. FKK are different but I behave the same: building beauties for me.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2365455]Don't have any regrets, with a prostitute you just buy illusion, no trust, no love, no projects, no future nothing. Most of the time I am getting more frustrated by leaving the room after after a session than before.[/QUOTE]It is a great shame that FKKs did not provide you with what you were looking for. As you say, FKK is not a place for you to find love.

You probably did the right thing to transfer your focus to China since 2017, and to turn away from FKKs (as you say in another post).

Good luck in China in finding what you are looking for.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2365641]It is a great shame that FKKs did not provide you with what you were looking for. As you say, FKK is not a place for you to find love.

You probably did the right thing to transfer your focus to China since 2017, and to turn away from FKKs (as you say in another post).

Good luck in China in finding what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Friday I was in Berlin for some business issues and gave a new but may be last try to Artemis, sorry but it was very difficult to find a good looking girl, the bar area is so dark make it difficult to make a choice but in this very hot and sunny day I saw 0 attractive girl outside around the pool. I don t try to convince myself to go with average looking girls, also I don't like sili, botox, girls above 24, at the end went with a brunette but it was a mistake.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2365641]It is a great shame that FKKs did not provide you with what you were looking for. As you say, FKK is not a place for you to find love.
[/QUOTE]Really? Maybe you just need the right formula.

4 steps to finding true love in FKK Land:

1. Visit FKKs for ten years.

2. Form a list of 100 girls who tell you that they love you. Get their numbers.

3. One day message them all that you have gone broke, but you are willing to fuck them tomorrow for free.

4. Buy a puppy.

Steve9696. Your Inbox is full.

[QUOTE=Optimist;2365700]Steve9696. Your Inbox is full.[/QUOTE]Thanks! All clear now.

[QUOTE=Polyamorist;2365688]Really? Maybe you just need the right formula.

4 steps to finding true love in FKK Land:

1. Visit FKKs for ten years.

2. Form a list of 100 girls who tell you that they love you. Get their numbers.

3. One day message them all that you have gone broke, but you are willing to fuck them tomorrow for free.

4. Buy a puppy.[/QUOTE]Thanks for you funny approach but for me there is no love to find with a prostitute, getting 100 phone numbers from prostitutes is at higher risk that spending 1 month holidays in Afghanistan.

[QUOTE=Zumboit;2365593]I had hot girlfriends and good sex right into my 40's. After 20 years of marriage, no sex. Ironically, in my youth all my girlfriends gave great blowjobs, but my wife never liked to and I could never teach her how to do it well. In marriage you can't have everything. It seemed worth the trade off. The occasional FKK trip takes the tension and need off me, and I don't beg or argue with my wife about sex.

That said, I never, in my civilian life, had sex with women as hot as I just did over the past two days in Frankfurt, and few who gave such exquisite blowjobs.

Its still such a treat when I enter my first club of a trip, see the naked youth, and have my first session. What joy, what paradise! So happy to have found my way here. So glad it is legal and safe.

Sometimes I want to message all porn users. Your fantasies can really come true.[/QUOTE]Never asked for BJ to any of my real life girlfriends, I preferred to treat them like princesses, so they came to kiss all the time, they felt pretty and confident, they asked for pleasure and chose how they wanted to please me. Same behavior in FKK, I don't play grocer, I don't beg for services, for BJ, I play my game, I adapt to girls, I valuate them and I judge their behavior for me. Usually, they choose me first, even before bigger money, because they feel valuated with me.

Replying here because comments are not allowed in the Travel Announcements thread.

[QUOTE=ExpatLover;2365815]Paradise seems to be in troubles since the police raid of last month, Sakura be careful the reports on the German forums are quite bad, for me it is better to try escort when you are in Stuttgart.[/QUOTE]Reports on FKK Paradise and particularly FKK Sakura (also FKK Colosseum) in the media you refer to (in your quoted post) are generally very complimentary. As most long time members also access these foreign language reports, I am happy to leave it for other members to judge which of us is providing accurate information.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2365326]There are markets that are now open via forums like ISG, WhatsApp, Google Translate, and Uber that were simply not accessible in the past.[/QUOTE]When I was about to venture into the p4p world for the first time, there was virtually no information available on the internet, this was long before Google became known and years before Alta Vista. I was on the verge of spending $1,000's on a short trip to Vikings resort before I stumbled onto a site lauding the charms of Tica's. Thankfully that led me to Rio, Germany and Bangkok & Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2365326]The quantity and quality of information about the international scene was just not as available 10-20 years ago as it is now. So you might not have found this world, even if you had looked for it.

There are markets that are now open via forums like ISG, WhatsApp, Google Translate, and Uber that were simply not accessible in the past. I realize technology is not as important with respect to the FKK market, but what I said was just a general observation.

I posted because another general observation is that a pet peeve of mine on sex worker / John forums are the self-loving, narcissistic assholes in their 50 and 60's who wake up every morning thinking about their autobiographies and declare that no men in their late teens through late 30's should participate in this activity. These are guys who claim to have had beautiful girlfriends and wives when younger (although I have my doubts), who they presumably divorced when those women became less attractive.[/QUOTE]You make a lot of very valid points. First, it is absolutely true that information access plays a huge role in people being able to monger far and wide. You can't monger in a place when you are not even aware of its existence. Google is by far the most important tool for any sex activity — a few simple key word searches and following those links can take you to other places and sooner or later you will stumble on FKKs. In mid or late 1990's, I used to look at Usenet groups like alt. Sex. Prostitution, alt. Sex. Strip-clubs etc. Mostly they were populated with grad students from US and Europe. For whatever reason, Germany was never mentioned prominently back then.

You also make good points about people of a certain age and marital status looking down on other people. There is plenty to go around and guys should focus on having their own fun and finding their own happiness but many people feel compelled to put others down, feel superior about their own choices and belittle others, express skepticism about others and even call them liars and what have you. Obviously, this phenomenon get accentuated on anonymous internet where anyone can act macho.

Personally speaking, whether a guy chooses to get married or not, does it at 25 or 50, is entirely up to him. It is absolutely senseless for anyone else to be offering advice on such personal and complicated subjects. Especially by people on a internet free forum. Let people make their own choices and live with the consequences.

[QUOTE=Pessimist;2366295]You make a lot of very valid points. First, it is absolutely true that information access plays a huge role in people being able to monger far and wide. You can't monger in a place when you are not even aware of its existence. Google is by far the most important tool for any sex activity a few simple key word searches and following those links can take you to other places and sooner or later you will stumble on FKKs. In mid or late 1990's, I used to look at Usenet groups like alt. Sex. Prostitution, alt. Sex. Strip-clubs etc. Mostly they were populated with grad students from US and Europe. For whatever reason, Germany was never mentioned prominently back then.

You also make good points about people of a certain age and marital status looking down on other people. There is plenty to go around and guys should focus on having their own fun and finding their own happiness but many people feel compelled to put others down, feel superior about their own choices and belittle others, express skepticism about others and even call them liars and what have you. Obviously, this phenomenon get accentuated on anonymous internet where anyone can act macho.

Personally speaking, whether a guy chooses to get married or not, does it at 25 or 50, is entirely up to him. It is absolutely senseless for anyone else to be offering advice on such personal and complicated subjects. Especially by people on a internet free forum. Let people make their own choices and live with the consequences.[/QUOTE]Yes and no, sometimes to get advises for free can also help you to change or to make better decisions, personally I appreciate it, that why as a old senior monger (many will think too old and stupid) I really think it is.

Not a good option for married guys to go with prostitutes and also I think that there are too many young guys going with prostitutes for them it will be far better to try to convince normal girls and the normal life. Artemis last Friday wall full of young guys, I am really wondering what they are looking for, obviously for 60 euros the girls will open her legs. Too easy better to make them strong by dating normal girls.

[QUOTE=Tintin1;2365015]Are you talking Oasis? Sharks? Disneyland? (Your questions comes after the post by Craiova) Otherwise, you need to look in the specific Forum for the geographic region. When I find any escort I then do a search on her name in this forum and Lusthaus, and then sometimes Gratiszeige. The best girls actually cross post their Lusthaus reviews!-especially when they change names after leaving a specific club. Funny enough, I have the most sympathy for guys who have a v specific type (skinny girls with tiny breasts who do anal. Or girls with DDD boobs who like DATY) cause if you hit my sweet spot, I occasionally share favorites.[/QUOTE]I don't mean the FKKs but high end independent or agency girls. Similar to what's available in Vancouver, Montreal or Toronto.