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[QUOTE=Member #2041]Hoboken Michael stated that he had never been to Asia before. So I simply assumed that he has no knowledge of the local market, and naively selected prices from one venue, Soi 33, as being representative, when they are nothing of the sort.[/QUOTE]
Yup, just corrected the other post as I saw that too. Soi 33 is definitely not a good representation of what is found in BKK.
[QUOTE=Hoboken Michael]...
Is it fair to compare Soi 33 area with Orchard Towers? In any event, here is the translation to USD:
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[/QUOTE]Hoboken Michael,
Long long time ago I lived in Singapore, for more than 3 years, and I still (have to) go there at least once every 3 month. I also know Soi 33 a bit :).
Soi 33 in Bangkok has NOTHING in common with the Singapore Orchard Tower Bars. Since Top Ten is closed you can basically forget the Orchard Tower Bars. Ipanema is good for a drink, but I rarely see an attractive girl there.
The prices in Singapore are much higher than even in Soi 33, and the Soi 33 prices are higher than elsewhere in Bangkok. You can better compare the Spasso / CM2 / Hard Rock Cafe girls with those running around in Orchard Tower Singapore.
In Soi 33 you can find some nice Thai women. Some. Not too many, but some. And they are worth those Singapore prices, believe me.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Hoboken Michael]Greetings! I am a new monger to the board and have never been to Asia before. Have read much of the Thailand forums and a good number of Singapore postings.
Michael[/QUOTE]You received already some good comments from other brothers on this but you can’t compare apples with oranges, SIN is a big difference with BK and not only city wise about the cleanness and the traffic but mainly about your question on P4P and nightlife.
I can tell you that from my experience in the past at SIN, it’s more expensive than BK in every way and your calculation or comparison on girls does not make much sense, the chose and way to monger in BK is easier, I understand its difficult to get a picture of the scene if you have never been in Asia. My last time in SIN is more than a year ago but I have been there often over the years mainly for business with sufficient spare time to monger, flying from SIN in to BKK was for me like arriving in men’s haven beside the fact that I like SIN.
Singapore: few massage parlours or BBS with a HJ, I used to have massage in 5 star hotels with HJ but that’s all over now. I would not go there for a holiday, so what else to do? A stop over and maybe for some shopping but HKG is better and cheaper now. Girls & quality, all kind of nationality’s if that is where you are looking for and real Singaporeans are great looking girls. 90% from the P4P game is picking up a girls at a nightclubs or few at Orchard Rd and take them to your room, it takes time, discussing and bargaining, a hit or miss. 10% is escort, good quality company’s, I had some stunning escorts in my room there for a fair or low price acc. To Intl. Standards. I don’t know the today’s pricing for P4P but it hasn’t been surly not going down.
Bangkok:
Lots of massage parlours at every level and pricing with good quality and great looking girls even at the lower end for a lot less money, you get extra’s everywhere till FS and 4 hands, except at 4 or 5 star Spa’s, many bars to pick up the girls not only Soi 33, hundred of soapys to chose from (see Mick his new list), just fulfil all your dreams here. BK is without any doubt the best place so far, beside a few Russian or Chinese every girl is pure Thai talent and provides a great service, just RTTF a bit and you will be convinced.
John Euro
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It seems that prostitution in LOS is as much an institution as eating food,
and not only for farangs:
"Thai Government Support For Prostitution
"Support of prostitution is pervasive in political circles, as the BBC News reported in 2003 that "MPs from Thailand's ruling Thai Rak Thai Party are getting hot under the collar over plans by the party leadership to ban them from having mistresses or visiting brothels"..."One MP told The Nation newspaper that if the rules were enforced, the party would only be able to field around 30 candidates, compared to its more than 200 sitting MPs."[7]
"Attitudes towards women can be described by MP Thirachai Sirikhan, informing The Nation newspaper, "To have a mia noi (mistress) is an individual's right. There should be no problem as long as the politician causes no trouble to his family or society".[7] Having many wives was a common attribute of Thai culture in the past, but because prostitution is so pervasive a common attitude among women is that they expect their husbands to cheat, and don't believe them if they deny it.
"Both politicians and police has been supporting and indulging in the prostitution industry openly. Tavich, a veteran politician at 76 years was under fire in 2005 for impregnating a 14 year old girl, who worked across the street from the congressional building.[8]
"After a police raid on some Bangkok parlours where policemen had sex with prostitutes, "Acting Suthisan Police chief Colonel Varanvas Karunyathat defended the police action, saying that the (police) officers involved needed to have sex with the masseuses to gain evidence for the arrest."[9] Apparently, this is standard practice as a separate police force did the same in Pattaya in May 2007.[5]
"Even more evidence of politicians supporting prostitution industry and the sexual habits of elderly Thai men in general is how Viagra is being given to elderly voters in exchange for their votes in an election drive.[10] The general attitude of Thai politicians towards the sex industry can be inferred by the incident where an unidentified member of the Cabinet who had a penis enlargement was called upon to support a lawsuit. When asked to inspect one by one the Cabinet members to find out who did it, Deputy Public Health Minister Anutin Charnveerakul implied jokingly to reporters that all of the male Cabinet members have had the operation at one time or another, so it would be impossible to know. [11]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Thailand#Thai_Government_Support_For_Prostitution[/url]
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Why the fuck should PinkPearl's post on out-of-date news reports from the BBC get an ROD? Will the numbnut administrators turn off the auto-pilot on that stupid blue print at the bottom and in the future reserve it only for truly worthy posts? Better yet. Get rid of it. RODs are meaningless and stupid.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand] Better yet. Get rid of it. RODs are meaningless and stupid.[/QUOTE]
Many posters have echoed these same sentiments but like many other threads on this board you have to read through them to find the real informative ones.
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]Why the fuck should PinkPearl's post on out-of-date news reports from the BBC get an ROD? Will the numbnut administrators turn off the auto-pilot on that stupid blue print at the bottom and in the future reserve it only for truly worthy posts? Better yet. Get rid of it. RODs are meaningless and stupid.[/QUOTE]
OTH,
Pink's report did not get an "ROD." It was only recommended for one. 99% of Jackson's recommendations are completely ignored, and the fact is that the overwhelming majority of reports that do get ROD's have not been recommended by Jackson, but linked the the ROD thread by discriminating members. The system works.
(Edit) Oops, I just noticed that Runn Man did give Pink's report an ROD, but, of course that was done just to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off -- not because there is anything distinctive about the report. Why clog up a good thread just for spite I cannot figure out.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]OTH,
(Edit) Oops, I just noticed that Runn Man did give Pink's report an ROD, but, of course that was done just to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] you off -- not because there is anything distinctive about the report. Why clog up a good thread just for spite I cannot figure out.[/QUOTE]
You should be able to figure this out quite easily but since you cannot, I will help. Jackson's definition of a ROD is certainly different from the general (senior) membership of this board. A (ROD) report only has to be longer that a standard post and have some information that someone will find useful, by that definition Obepo's post about a 300B BB/anal hooker could be given a ROD and Pinkpearl's post also met the requirement per the board rules.
In terms of clogging up a good thread, where have you been? The biggest culprit that clogs up board is the aforementioned OTH. He goes on and on about Hi-so girls, how he does not date P4P, all the contacts he has, he is the most knowledgeable poster about Thailand and how much he hates Issan dark skin girls and how he only likes the light/yellow skin girls/how much better he has it than most. He even recently admitted that he post reports to get a simply to get a rise out of some posters. If that isn't clogging up the board with redundant crap, what is? Hey where is The Traveller? We need his consistent arguing/posting to counter some of this stuff.
[QUOTE=Run Mann]You should be able to figure this out quite easily but since you cannot, I will help. Jackson's definition of a ROD is certainly different from the general (senior) membership of this board. A (ROD) report only has to be longer that a standard post and have some information that someone will find useful, by that definition Obepo's post about a 300B BB/anal hooker could be given a ROD and Pinkpearl's post also met the requirement per the board rules. [/QUOTE]
Oh, I think I've got it figured out all right and therefore I really don't need your help, but if you know so much, why don't you tell us why some of the very best reports by senior members such as Mick Licker, Evil Penevil, Poster Lion, Nic Frenchy, The Traveller, and yes, especially OTH, (probably the most knowledgeable person on this board when talking about Thailand), and many others who contribute great reports loaded with useful information do not get a ROD recommendation from Jackson, but instead are linked to the ROD thread by discriminating members who know what is good and want isn't?
Why, if what you say is true, does Jackson never recommend an ROD for any of Opebo's, or That Asshole's fine informative and entertaining reports? The fact is that Jackson has a habit of recommending lots of mediocre stuff for the ROD thread and then no one bothers to link the crap there until you (much to my surprise) did it today?
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Oh, I think I've got it figured out all right and therefore I really don't need your help[/QUOTE]
Are you really that slow or is it your old age? The posts Jackson recommends are mostly those of Regulars members whose reports he moderates. He also uses an program that recommends most reports that appear to be a few paragraph in length. However I have seen some senior member posts that Jackson has recommended although he does not moderate them. If he did a lot of stuff on this thread would be deleted/edited, perhaps this dialogue would be included.
Obvioulsy you don't have it figure out as you claim since you are still asking elementary questions. Again, because you missed this part too, Jackson's ROD classification is not the same as most posters, so your suprize is not suprizing, keep cheering!
[QUOTE=Run Mann]Are you really that slow or is it your old age? The posts Jackson recommends are mostly those of Regulars members whose reports he moderates. He also uses an program that recommends most reports that appear to be a few paragraph in length. However I have seen some senior member posts that Jackson has recommended although he does not moderate them. If he did a lot of stuff on this thread would not be deleted/edited, perhaps this dialogue would be included.
Obvioulsy you don't have it figure out as you claim since you are still asking elementary questions. Again, because you missed this part too, Jackson's ROD classification is not the same as most posters, so your suprize is not suprizing, keep cheering![/QUOTE]
Well, If I'm slow then you aren't moving forward at all since you have not told me anything about Jackson or his methods I didn't already know and you've not explained why he almost never recommends the best reports for an ROD.
You can't seem to answer even the elementary questions you are whining about. The last sentence of your first paragraph, for example ... what the fuck are you talking about? You can't even put a sentence together correctly let alone explain the fine points of the ROD thread. Perhaps when you get a little older like me you'll be a bit wiser and hopefully more articulate.
Of course Jackson's classification for an ROD is not the same for most posters. Thats the point, isn't it? And it's also the problem with the ROD thread. Can you get your tiny mind around that thought?
Daddy, Run Mann, you guys are boring. Take it to the fight club.
Nobody gives a shit about Jackson's ROD suggestions. they are more than probably automatically generated anyway.
thanks.
[QUOTE=Daddy07] but instead are linked to the ROD thread by discriminating members who know what is good and want isn't?
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Does a typo make you inarticulate? If so join the club. Btw, the word "not" should not have been in my last sentence you referenced, it was a typo.
[QUOTE=Daddy07]Well, If I'm slow then you aren't moving forward at all since you have not told me anything about Jackson or his methods I didn't already know and you've not explained why he almost never recommends the best reports for an ROD.
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If you were aware of the ROD process why did you bother to ask? The only whining is coming from you about puzzlement/objection of the RODs and the one I gave the poster. Obviously senility is in full effect with you old timer so I will not repeat myself. If you don’t get it, I sure it won’t be the last time in your advance years this happens.
You are exactly what Pattaya needs, another old angry expat with a temper drifting around town, you will fit right in handsum man.
[QUOTE=Run Mann] You are exactly what Pattaya needs, another old angry expat with a temper drifting around town, you will fit right in handsum man.[/QUOTE]
1Ball is right. This is boring. And I don't like to fight. So you can have the last word.
Enjoy,
Daddy
Ive been thinking of going to thailand for some time now. What has been keeping me from going is the 17 hour flight from new york city.
Can anyone give me a suggestion on how I can break up my flying time? I thought I could spend one night in amsterdam at an airport hotel. However after looking at expedia.com it seems to be 19 hrs away.
I have sleeping pills and all that but I still dont think I could last 17 hours.
Thank you. Im a latin america person who knows nothing about asia.
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