Hong Kong Club Reports

[QUOTE=Urfikhan;2637439]Many sayings from Capt Solo and other senior members on this board have helped me a lot on my mongering trips:

1) Crossing into Mexico, why go through the foreigner line? I walk in the Mexican line and never get questioned. Of course I am not a gringo (have been mistaken for Italian).

2) Cultivate relationships with street girls and you will get good service at decent price.

3) If you go to the clubs, stick to your guns on pricing and sooner or later someone will take it. This is especially true on Mon-Thu.

4) In clubs, watch out for attitude and look for chemistry. I don't drink and don't believe in throwing away money on $9 fichas (2 fichas = 1 SG session!) So the chemistry part can be hard for me.

I was there Tuesday last week and had a room at Cascadas, but the street scene is just becoming ridiculous, with SGs asking for 800 pesos for 20 minute session. I think I have been balcklisted by gals ob both sides of the Alley in the area near HK. This is true even for gals on Constitucion to visit Cascadas. My regulars were either without their IDs or couldn't make it, Queens Escort service was non-responsive, and here I am standing with my the! Ck in my hand. Needed to get back to San Diego. I haven't been to HK or Las Chavelas since they merged, so I thought "things are miserable, what else can go wrong let me go in and check this out". I recalled 2 more principles from past posts.

5) 1,000 pesos + tip is a good local rate from pre-covid days. Captain Solo used to preach that a lot.

6) Las Chavelas is is where girls are sent off from HK (to take a break), and girls there more amenable to negotiating..[/QUOTE]Great post thank you! I'll try the 1000 pesos offer tonight in Chavelas and see if I can get a bite.

Urgikhan did a good job getting his deals.

Even top tiered HK girls would take 1000, If they think they cannot pry more out of you. I have done many top HK girls near that figure.

Perhaps you should plead poverty, "mi tengo poco dinero. Mil para me bebe, por favor, con propina."

What I love about this board is it's like a puzzle. Sometimes easy to figure out. All of the related experiences are fascinating but many lack context. Take the dude who coined a hard ten pesos at the robe guy. I would have been unhappy to if I was handed two quarters instead of a bill (yes I know there are ten peso bills, I just don't know why). The 80/20 rule math works in Tijuana but for different reasons. Ten% or probably way less of guys rolling down spend and an unusual amount of time figuring out how to get most bang for the peso. Figure if you spent that time working your income job you could afford the dings here and there. But also there are people who live for the feeling of not having overpaid. I get that but it's just not for me. OTOH the 10% who are hitting Tijuana on a regular basis have another problem. If you for the sake of reference you hit up every street girl figuring out which one will go nasty for ten pesos you can bet your sweet ass the collective will have a nickname for you. Simple as once you are defined as such any girl seen taking your offer will be considered out of the sisterhood. Or so that's my guess as I don't bowl in that lane. Likewise if you are a regular you run the risk of becoming the property of any one girl at any one place and that's a hard tail to shake. Columbians especially will pee on you like a tree to mark their territory. Although they will most always offer up the ass as a move to win you back. Just more trouble. I have found that hitting one of the agencies for a few weeks is necessary and my routine, if you can call it that, is to then go to Zona Roja and check it out but don't have any girls park on you. Playing broke works but it is really hard when that unicorn shows up and you have to bust cover to pursue. Just my two pesos.

[QUOTE=CaptainSolo;2637840]Urgikhan did a good job getting his deals.

Even top tiered HK girls would take 1000, If they think they cannot pry more out of you. I have done many top HK girls near that figure.

Perhaps you should plead poverty, "mi tengo poco dinero. Mil para me bebe, por favor, con propina."[/QUOTE]I believe it, the HK girl told me that Arribas dropped significantly since October, which coincides when the additional PUA $ ended. I guess people were really spending their unemployment checks at the clubs jajaja.

Is HK club busy is Q1? If not, I may try to haggle rather than paying the standard $100 for 30 min.

[QUOTE=Urfikhan;2637439]Many sayings from Capt Solo and other senior members on this board have helped me a lot on my mongering trips:

1) Crossing into Mexico, why go through the foreigner line? I walk in the Mexican line and never get questioned. Of course I am not a gringo (have been mistaken for Italian).

2) Cultivate relationships with street girls and you will get good service at decent price.

3) If you go to the clubs, stick to your guns on pricing and sooner or later someone will take it. This is especially true on Mon-Thu.

4) In clubs, watch out for attitude and look for chemistry. I don't drink and don't believe in throwing away money on $9 fichas (2 fichas = 1 SG session!) So the chemistry part can be hard for me.

I was there Tuesday last week and had a room at Cascadas, but the street scene is just becoming ridiculous, with SGs asking for 800 pesos for 20 minute session. I think I have been balcklisted by gals ob both sides of the Alley in the area near HK. This is true even for gals on Constitucion to visit Cascadas. My regulars were either without their IDs or couldn't make it, Queens Escort service was non-responsive, and here I am standing with my the! Ck in my hand. Needed to get back to San Diego. I haven't been to HK or Las Chavelas since they merged, so I thought "things are miserable, what else can go wrong let me go in and check this out". I recalled 2 more principles from past posts..[/QUOTE]What is more important to you? Getting a cheap price or getting the girl you really want? What if the smoking hot 10 that you really want won't budge from 1800 p? Would you still go with a 1200 p girl even though she's way less attractive and could be a far inferior lay?

[QUOTE=ScottHall;2637973]What is more important to you? Getting a cheap price or getting the girl you really want? What if the smoking hot 10 that you really want won't budge from 1800 p? Would you still go with a 1200 p girl even though she's way less attractive and could be a far inferior lay?[/QUOTE]What is important to you is only important to you.

I was once in a bar talking with a newbie from Canada. He asked how it worked. I told him to just talk to a girl of his interest and negotiate a price and he could get any girl he wanted. One of the uglier girls grabbed a hold of him and he had one drink with her. Off he went with her.

A few days later I saw him again in the bar. He was all happy and thanked me for showing him to take out a girl. I thought he had come back afterwards and had taken out other girls. Nope he had LT the same girl for 3 nights and was all happy!

To each their own. My your own business.

[QUOTE=Dg8787;2638227]What is important to you is only important to you.

I was once in a bar talking with a newbie from Canada. He asked how it worked. I told him to just talk to a girl of his interest and negotiate a price and he could get any girl he wanted. One of the uglier girls grabbed a hold of him and he had one drink with her. Off he went with her.

A few days later I saw him again in the bar. He was all happy and thanked me for showing him to take out a girl. I thought he had come back afterwards and had taken out other girls. Nope he had LT the same girl for 3 nights and was all happy!

To each their own. My your own business.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I mean with some guys it's natural to want to stick with the same girl (s) and that's perfectly fine. Even me. I've been going to the Zona for years (albeit only a couple times a year or so) and am perfectly content sticking with my set of "regulars", even though I do venture out with other girls from time to time. But I'm risk averse by nature, so see my "regulars" as more of a "sure thing" LOL. With all that said, you described the guy you talked to as a "newbie" so it probably would've been in his best interest to check out other girls as well before settling in with the one girl.

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2638243]Yeah, I mean with some guys it's natural to want to stick with the same girl (s) and that's perfectly fine. Even me. I've been going to the Zona for years (albeit only a couple times a year or so) and am perfectly content sticking with my set of "regulars", even though I do venture out with other girls from time to time. But I'm risk averse by nature, so see my "regulars" as more of a "sure thing" [/QUOTE]Let me give you a tip Brother Mou.

All the women that you see in Hong Kong Bar are "sure things."

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2638243]Yeah, I mean with some guys it's natural to want to stick with the same girl (s) and that's perfectly fine. Even me. I've been going to the Zona for years (albeit only a couple times a year or so) and am perfectly content sticking with my set of "regulars", even though I do venture out with other girls from time to time. But I'm risk averse by nature, so see my "regulars" as more of a "sure thing" LOL. With all that said, you described the guy you talked to as a "newbie" so it probably would've been in his best interest to check out other girls as well before settling in with the one girl.[/QUOTE]I normally keep a "regular" at every monger destination, and dabble with new ones on the side. When I go back to HK club, the plan is to TLN with my "regular", and have ST with new ones. If I like any of the new ones over my "regular" then I will replace her.

I've been turned down at least 3 times that I can remember in the last 14-15 years.

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2638257]Let me give you a tip Brother Mou.

All the women that you see in Hong Kong Bar are "sure things."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ScatManDoo;2638257]Let me give you a tip Brother Mou.

All the women that you see in Hong Kong Bar are "sure things."[/QUOTE]To clarify for you, what I meant by "sure thing" is "sure thing" in terms of satisfaction level. My "regulars" are regulars because I'm confident they'll provide good service. Can't say the same thing for random chicks in the club or on the street that I haven't bedded yet, no matter how attractive they may be on the surface.

[QUOTE=BrotherMouzone;2638272]To clarify for you, what I meant by "sure thing" is "sure thing" in terms of satisfaction level. My "regulars" are regulars because I'm confident they'll provide good service.[/QUOTE]They must appreciate your sense of humor.

[QUOTE=ScottHall;2637973]What is more important to you? Getting a cheap price or getting the girl you really want? What if the smoking hot 10 that you really want won't budge from 1800 p? Would you still go with a 1200 p girl even though she's way less attractive and could be a far inferior lay?[/QUOTE]I am a firm believer in value and service -- and I would try both the the 1800 p and 1200 p girls, and the longer term repeat with the girl who give better service. She gets added to my stable of regulars and I will not pick another girl in her presence when I go to the club (or street). If you have 2 favorite street girls in close proximity, only pick one when the other is not present. Showing a little concern goes long ways.

Odds are the 1200 p girl will provide better service -- and she will get higher propinas and gifts moving forward. Contrary to my behavior, money is not an issue and if I really want a 2000 gal. But I will never take a prima donna asking for 2000 and showing attitude. Attitude is everything, and it shows up in service -- always.

I carry quarters and $ bills. Only good service warrants a tip. The limo driver who drops me at the border pick-up point (rather than the drop-off point) doesn't get a tip. Clean-up guy deserves a $1, robe guy does not.

Another tip for both club and street girls -- 90% of hem don't like porn on the TV. Switching to music channels like Bandamax improves their moods and improve service levels in most instances. Showing a little concern goes long ways (e. G. Putting on music on TV, or youtube if the tv channels are not there) On the other hand if you find a gal that like porn -- congratulations she is most likely a real freak and have fun!

[QUOTE=CocrBrotheler;2637074]After I paid for it with receipt in hand the male employee said I needed to pay 7 pesos additional for the bottle since the purchase only included the liquid.[/QUOTE]Returnable bottles is really a thing in Tijuana. I bought a six-pack of Modelo Especial at a 7-11 near the Otay crossing, and they required a deposit. When I returned, a week later, they inspected my receipt, making sure I had actually bought them there, and then gave me my deposit back, no problem.

[QUOTE=WombatEd2;2638357]Returnable bottles is really a thing in Tijuana. I bought a six-pack of Modelo Especial at a 7-11 near the Otay crossing, and they required a deposit. When I returned, a week later, they inspected my receipt, making sure I had actually bought them there, and then gave me my deposit back, no problem.[/QUOTE]That I can understand when you pay for the "beer whole thing liquid + bottle) and have a receipt in hand for what would be expected almost anywhere as liquid + glass but this moron trying to 2 X gouge I about blew my top. And totally understand if I never bring the bottle back then 7 pesos lost. He was weird too asking me about origin of TX name etc. And some other menial regarding Qs. I think he was on some drug but whatever.